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Just received my brand new TF300. So far I'm very impressed! Everything is running smooth as silk, unlike my TF101 with ICS LWP are choppy, not on the TF300. Its only been a few hours so I cant tell if it is plagued with reboots or SOD yet. But I will keep everyone updated if it does. I bought this one for my Wife, and I wish I would have waited before buying my TF101. Its sleek, lighter, tad more comfortable to hold. I like the power button placement and just the general looks of it. The Tegra 3 is now a new must have, 1gig of DDR3 ram, 32 gig memory. All for the same price as I paid for my TF101, you really cant go wrong buying the TF300 instead. One thing about ASUS that I'm not happy with is their QC. I went through 2 TF101's before getting one that didnt have crap under the screen. Same with this one... its not bad enough to send this one back but it was the first thing I noticed. A little tiny silver dot that isn't going to wipe off. Can hardly tell its there with the screen off, but I was looking really hard for it. Screen on no problems, light bleed on the screen is still and Issue as well. Its not bad but on a really black screen its noticeable. All in all I'm really happy with this purchase. I know ASUS doesn't have the greatest track record with some of there products. But I've spent a lot of time playing with all of the tablets that are out there. IMHO Asus has the best out there. Asus and Nvidia will eventually get the bugs worked out of the 101 but in the mean time I think that even if the other tabs don't have reboots and sod's I still wouldn't buy one. Don't get me wrong I'm not an Asus fanboy, but I do believe they have some of the best hardware out there. Its really and amazing Tablet especially compared to the TF101, and I assume the Prime too as wifi and gps work great! Now I hope Root will be easily achievable, Going to try viper from the prime and see it that works, will report Back.
Edit: Viper 4.5 does not work. oh well at least it didn't break it!
Actually I cancelled my pre-order because despite the new quadcore chips on the Asus, I have not seen any substantial app development to justify the purchase of the 300. As far as spec, the Tegra 3 is the only difference between it and the 101. For what I'm doing at the moment, the 101 is more than capable. Also, Nvidia keeps advertising about the 'boatload' of Tegra3 games coming soon, where is it?
I will save my money for now, the TF101 is still the best bang for the buck.
I picked mine up today at Best Buy. They only had the 16GB version, and I would have preferred the 32GB version since its only $20 more, but I couldn't wait any loner and since I have a 32GB memory cars, I have no issues with space.
So far I can't say I like it more than my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. I find the screen to be a little washed out, and the screen is not as responsive as Samsung. I find myself hitting the screen multiple times. This might go back. I'll give it a few more days.
Swyped from my Samsung Epic 4g Touch with a bite of VeNuM.
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Actually I cancelled my pre-order because despite the new quadcore chips on the Asus, I have not seen any substantial app development to justify the purchase of the 300. As far as spec, the Tegra 3 is the only difference between it and the 101. For what I'm doing at the moment, the 101 is more than capable. Also, Nvidia keeps advertising about the 'boatload' of Tegra3 games coming soon, where is it?
I will save my money for now, the TF101 is still the best bang for the buck.
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Hell where are all the Tegra 2 games at! LOL!!! For my needs the 101 is perfect and I personally don't need a quad core either, but if I didn't already have one and had to choose between the two I would go for the TF300. Don't forget the TF101 only has DDR2 Ram and the TF300 has DDR3 and at 399 for the 32gig, its a no brainier. I paid 399 for my 16gig 101 five months ago, so I kinda feel ripped off!!! I would pass up the prime for this one, Its just not worth the extra 150 bucks.
Ive been comparing them all day and the TF300 is getting better battery life then my 101 on ICS. I have the screen brightness about the same. I'm just really impressed on how well it runs. Its like greased butter in an rocket sled running down hill. HAHA been doing stupid stuff like installing the same apps at the same time the 300 will install twice as fast. wifi seems to have a stronger signal, gps connected in about 10 sec. slow but its been cloudy and raining here all day so 10 sec is very good. Just happy with my purchase and I'm sure most others will be happy too.
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Hell where are all the Tegra 2 games at! LOL!!! For my needs the 101 is perfect and I personally don't need a quad core either, but if I didn't already have one and had to choose between the two I would go for the TF300. Don't forget the TF101 only has DDR2 Ram and the TF300 has DDR3 and at 399 for the 32gig, its a no brainier. I paid 399 for my 16gig 101 five months ago, so I kinda feel ripped off!!! I would pass up the prime for this one, Its just not worth the extra 150 bucks.
Ive been comparing them all day and the TF300 is getting better battery life then my 101 on ICS. I have the screen brightness about the same. I'm just really impressed on how well it runs. Its like greased butter in an rocket sled running down hill. HAHA been doing stupid stuff like installing the same apps at the same time the 300 will install twice as fast. wifi seems to have a stronger signal, gps connected in about 10 sec. slow but its been cloudy and raining here all day so 10 sec is very good. Just happy with my purchase and I'm sure most others will be happy too.
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Hehe, i got my tf101 like two weeks ago for $250 manufacturer refurbished.
Ill probably get the tf300 next year when they're cheaper too and pass this one along to my brother or something. Lol
This is all I need for now, gets the job done
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Does the 300 play hd mkv files? Also whats the difference between 300 and 700? Other than the 1080p screen res on700
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Does the 300 play hd mkv files? Also whats the difference between 300 and 700? Other than the 1080p screen res on700
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The 300 is the downside of the Prime while the 700 is the upside. In addition to a 1.6ghz quadcore and 1900x1200 res, I'm hoping that Asus will make the 700 into 10" and 12" tablets with full usb, e-sata, hdmi, wireless joystick, and wireless keyboard ports. That would really blow the pants out of the Ipad.
Screw tegra 3. Give me 4gb of ram and stability and I'll be as happy as a pig in ****.
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Apart from the rather mediocre video playback, the TF is more than enough for my needs.
Although Im a little bit annoyed that I didnt wait buying a new tablet until the TF300 came out. They are listed at the same price! lol
But thats my own fault. I knew there were new tegra3 tablets due to release in late april/early may.
And I dont regret getting the 101. But still......
I just bought this tablet, it should be here on my doorstep by Thursday. The TF300 is going to be my first Android tablet so I hope that I'm going to be happy with it.
I was interested in the Transformer 300, for those that have both the 300 and the OG, would stuff like browsing the web be faster? Basically the difference is the Tegra 3 chip (is this mostly for games??) For now the OG TF will do for me, at least for another yr when hopefully the upgrade will really be felt.
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I was interested in the Transformer 300, for those that have both the 300 and the OG, would stuff like browsing the web be faster? Basically the difference is the Tegra 3 chip (is this mostly for games??) For now the OG TF will do for me, at least for another yr when hopefully the upgrade will really be felt.
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The faster chip allows newer games that run smoother and have better graphics but so far Tegra 3 games are few and far in between. Browsing speed depends not only on the tablet but also on the wifi connection. The 101 does everything for me, great multimedia device that plays HD movies and Tegra 2 games. I will wait until the next generation of tablets come out, quadcores are still in development stage.
Just to prove the high demand for the TF101, Newegg is sold out of the 32gb refurbished, while Amazon sells brand new 32gb TF101 for $549.99 tablet only. That's $150 more than a brand new 32gb TF300 with a faster 1.2ghz Tegra 3 chip. People are definitely buying this tablet over the more recent models. Go figure.
Already there something wrong with the wifi...
On another thread..... try this turn your wifi and go 25 feet away from AP and check what it does .....
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Already there something wrong with the wifi...
On another thread..... try this turn your wifi and go 25 feet away from AP and check what it does .....
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i took mine about 40ft away and had it there for 10mins. still shows full wifi bars no matter how i turn/hold it. im also on power save mode as well. connection is working and streaming hd youtube with no issues. hmm
my wireless router is a linksys wrt54g running regular linksys firmware. with my phone and desktop connected to it.
I ordered a 300 from newegg but I will send it back and get a used 101 off of ebay($239), seeing how newegg is sold out of the refurbs, and see if the 700 will rule. I read the 700 will be 3G and LTE capable.
I just picked up a 300 and the dock. I'm hoping for somw development soon because I'd love to root it.
Edit: If you bought yours from best buy(16gb) and they get the 32gb version in within 30 days you can return it and pay the difference the two.
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just picked up a 16gb. some guy selling them brand new with dock for $400 on craigslist, jumped on it. hoping for develpment soon too.
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just picked up a 16gb. some guy selling them brand new with dock for $400 on craigslist, jumped on it. hoping for develpment soon too.
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Considering the terrible luck many of us had with the tf101, you're likely going to need that warranty for your TF300. You got a good deal,but you might be stuck with a problem unit and then what?
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You can buy a brand new 101 for $299 at an unnamed store right now. I am debating between that for a Galaxy Tab 2 tomorrow. I like 7 inch tablets, and looked at them both today at Bestbuy for comparison before I drive out of my way to this store. Screen is definately nicer on the Transformer. I wont use for gaming, so is this a no brainer? Transformer or Gtab 2?
Hi. I need opinions from people who actually have purchased and using this tablet.
I am on the fence on P3100 on Amazon, I am thinking about getting this as an everyday phone since I rarely make phone calls these days. I got my Flyer when it was like $499 or $399 (forgot) at internet retailer thinking the pen will have great use but it wasn’t anyway near S pen functionality standard but still it was cool gadget to show off to friends at that time. But it virtually had no use to me ever since HTC decided to kill it with Gingerbread upgrade and I lost the pen it came with shortly after the downgrade. I did downgraded and overclocked it and using it on a plane and on a short vacation but the whole experience put a nails on the coffin with me having had very sour experience with Sensation.
I usually use all the electronic stuff until it dies. For example I am still using Dell XPS M1530 that I got 2007 as entertainment devices at my home. It went through that gpu recall and with cpu and ssd upgrade and it’s still running great serving media contents from my server. I was expecting my first ever tablet to last long time but I got sick of the lags or should I put it as, consistently freezing for second(s). The level of disappointment isn’t nearly as bad as the geniuses(idiots) from Apple stores but it’s on par with the previous LG products that lacked everything I have given flyer to my kids to use it as their fun devices now. I don't want this kind of experience happen again. I don't want to buy this and about 3-4 month later it becomes almost useless. Just like that flyer I purchased.
So.. With the not so much upgrade to Tab 3 Is the Galaxy tab2 or 3 still viable options since everything these days comes with quad or even octa core with 2GB ram?
Here is a thread on the subject, it is a little different though, seeing as how you want to use yours as a primary phone as well, but it may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40186461
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Here is a thread on the subject, it is a little different though, seeing as how you want to use yours as a primary phone as well, but it may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40186461
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Thanks.
The thread is giving me more mix feeling on this issue.
I realize I can still (barely) use my Flyer to do basic stuff like reading web pages and watch youtube videos but the tablet isn't anywhere near usable after couple of months. I eventually have to wipe everything or restore to stock roms in order to get that usable feeling back again. And I do realize I can double down and get Note 8 but just like I said on that forum, feel it's still too expensive for what it is in US.
Bigger note 2, that isn't most powerful or innovative tablet at $600?
Or.
Possibly another 6 month device for around $300?
I don't know...
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Thanks.
The thread is giving me more mix feeling on this issue.
I realize I can still (barely) use my Flyer to do basic stuff like reading web pages and watch youtube videos but the tablet isn't anywhere near usable after couple of months. I eventually have to wipe everything or restore to stock roms in order to get that usable feeling back again. And I do realize I can double down and get Note 8 but just like I said on that forum, feel it's still too expensive for what it is in US.
Bigger note 2, that isn't most powerful or innovative tablet at $600?
Or.
Possibly another 6 month device for around $300?
I don't know...
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What is this tablet you speak of with Octa core and 2gig's of ram?
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What is this tablet you speak of with Octa core and 2gig's of ram?
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I am not talking about tablets alone. I am talking about phone as well. But I think you get the grasp of what I am trying to say here.
Couple of months later KLP comes. And oops sorry Tab 2 or 3 owners, it isn't supported device or retrofit it in and live with lag or live without major functions.
I went through this and I don't want to go through this too soon again.
If I were you... I would actually pick the GTAB3
I'm one of those people who really need screen space in landscape mode with the keyboard open.
Asus tf300 $315au 16gb WiFi
Or the upcoming Sony Xperia tablet z round $530au
Both can play 1080 mkvs and mp4
And Xperia tablet z can play 4k resolution videos like my Xperia z.
Food for thought.
I have the tab 2 10.1 can play 1080 mp4s but its more of an in car media system.
I does lag a little, not like what your talking about
Mine is stock no root
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Hello, everyone.
I am in a search of a 10" tablet, and ever since I found out about Nexus 10 - I have been wanting to get one, and this time seems to be a good moment to get it, especially since its price has dropped since it's official launch a year ago, and I'm not even looking at the prices for used devices.
But what currently concerns me is a chance to gen in an awkward situation of getting a Nexus 10 and a few months later Google could announce the second generation of this tablet, just like with Nexus 7 when I bought it back in December only to find about the second generation which is FAR superior, and I just couldn't resist to not buy it (probably my best bought ever).
First I guess I should get it straight for every one who shall post in this thread - even despite N10 may be behind the rest of the tablet market compared to the latest and greatest 10" devices out there, I really dislike the Big Four (e.g. GNote 10.1 2014, iPad Air, Xperia Tablet Z and Transformer TF701) for various reasons, mainly being the OEM logo on the front and some design decisions I don't quite like.
So I guess you could consider this thread as "Convince me to get the N10", and I have several questions about this device:
1) How is the screen compared to N7 2013, if there are any owners of both devices?
2) How well does it perform? Do you face the lack of available RAM? Does it perform well on latest Android versions?
3) How good it this tablet for gaming? Is Mali GPU powerful enough to run Real Racing 3, Asphalt 8, Dead Trigger 2, Dungeon Hunter 4, Galaxy on Fire 2?
I was also thinking about an option of getting a used N10 + used iPad 2 if I am lucky with money
Thanks in advance
Well there were some rumors that LG will release a 2nd Gen nexus 10 but there's no official announcement yet. I'd say it's pretty close so you can wait a month until the holidays.
Either way, this is still a great tablet, kit kat brought a lot of under the hood improvements and the device is running very well, especially if you root it.
Unless you have to have the latest and great, you can pick up a used 1st gen cheap in like new shape... That's what I just did. People are unloading them now...
We're only talking maybe a month at most at this point so I'd just wait, you can go ahead and buy a refurbished one to save money though
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So I guess you could consider this thread as "Convince me to get the N10", and I have several questions about this device:
1) How is the screen compared to N7 2013, if there are any owners of both devices?
2) How well does it perform? Do you face the lack of available RAM? Does it perform well on latest Android versions?
3) How good it this tablet for gaming? Is Mali GPU powerful enough to run Real Racing 3, Asphalt 8, Dead Trigger 2, Dungeon Hunter 4, Galaxy on Fire 2?
I was also thinking about an option of getting a used N10 + used iPad 2 if I am lucky with money
Thanks in advance
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Love my N10. I had thought about purchasing a Samsung Note 10.1 2014 edition, but changed my mind after using it for over a week (borrowed one from a friend). Nice performance boost, but no where near enough to make a large enough to warrant $500 when I have a decent tablet that does everything I need. S-Pen was really nice, but I stopped using it two days into the trial.
As to the questions.
1. The N10 has a super crisp 320ppi display. The resolution is higher than the N7 2013 tab, but the N7 has a higher price rating. One very important note: Kitkat 4.4 has made a significant change on the N10. Improved the color calibration. See the color calibration thread and check the posts post 4.4. I have an N10 and a N7 (original) and the color really improved on the N10. Someone who has the new N7 as well as the N10 will need to confirm, but I believe that they close to parity now.
2. Performance is great! I'm able to do whatever I want without lagging performance. The Mali God used also does a great job. Sure faster GPU's have since been released but the one selected was a top performer at release and still holds it's own. 4.4 also brought a boost in my benchmarks so the driver is better optimized than prior.
I don't know of any lack of memory. The 2GB does have a portion allocated to the GPU's, but I multitask a number of apps and have yet run into a problem related to a memory constraint. KitKat has also improved memory handling, so even less of an issue than previously.
3. Gaming? This tab really rocks. I have Asphalt 7 and Batman TDKR, Nova 3 and several others. Very smooth and perform well. Would like to see options to change screen resolution as the few times there is any reduced fps would be improved at a lower resolution.
iPad 2? Why? So that you can repurchase your apps on both platforms? Makes little sense to me.
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We're only talking maybe a month at most at this point so I'd just wait, you can go ahead and buy a refurbished one to save money though
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A refurbished tab makes sense as you still get the warranty and save even more.
I disagree about one month at best. Media hype started this trend. If pattern follows suit, it's more likely in July 2014.
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Love my N10. I had thought about purchasing a Samsung Note 10.1 2014 edition, but changed my mind after using it for over a week (borrowed one from a friend). Nice performance boost, but no where near enough to make a large enough to warrant $500 when I have a decent tablet that does everything I need. S-Pen was really nice, but I stopped using it two days into the trial.
As to the questions.
1. The N10 has a super crisp 320ppi display. The resolution is higher than the N7 2013 tab, but the N7 has a higher price rating. One very important note: Kitkat 4.4 has made a significant change on the N10. Improved the color calibration. See the color calibration thread and check the posts post 4.4. I have an N10 and a N7 (original) and the color really improved on the N10. Someone who has the new N7 as well as the N10 will need to confirm, but I believe that they close to parity now.
2. Performance is great! I'm able to do whatever I want without lagging performance. The Mali God used also does a great job. Sure faster GPU's have since been released but the one selected was a top performer at release and still holds it's own. 4.4 also brought a boost in my benchmarks so the driver is better optimized than prior.
I don't know of any lack of memory. The 2GB does have a portion allocated to the GPU's, but I multitask a number of apps and have yet run into a problem related to a memory constraint. KitKat has also improved memory handling, so even less of an issue than previously.
3. Gaming? This tab really rocks. I have Asphalt 7 and Batman TDKR, Nova 3 and several others. Very smooth and perform well. Would like to see options to change screen resolution as the few times there is any reduced fps would be improved at a lower resolution.
iPad 2? Why? So that you can repurchase your apps on both platforms? Makes little sense to me.
A refurbished tab makes sense as you still get the warranty and save even more.
I disagree about one month at best. Media hype started this trend. If pattern follows suit, it's more likely in July 2014.
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Uhh, I think you overshot the date by half a year+
Those that are saying it is only a month away etc are PURELY speculating, or citing those dodgey link bait troll sites.
There has been NO credible evidence that a second gen N10 is even in existence.
It could be 1 week. It could be 6 months, OR they might NEVER make another 10 incher again!
I'll just happily plod along with my HP touchpad until it is released.. but I CANT STOP SEARCHING FOR NEWS ABOUT IT. I don't know what it is but I want a 2nd gen N10 so bad.. I think because I saw how good the 2012 N7 was, then the 2013 N7 blew it out of the water..
I got a 90 warranty refurbished delivered for $314 and I expect the new N10 when it comes out soon will be like $500+shipping+tax and so be heading to $550+, will it be twice as good as the $314 I paid? Doubt it.
Is there anything wrong about the current N10 which justifies delay? I'd say the biggest problem it has is probably battery life.
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Unless you have to have the latest and great, you can pick up a used 1st gen cheap in like new shape... That's what I just did. People are unloading them now...
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I guess you're talking about Ebay and the like now, right?
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We're only talking maybe a month at most at this point so I'd just wait, you can go ahead and buy a refurbished one to save money though
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A refurbished tab makes sense as you still get the warranty and save even more.
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Why refurbushed and not just used? Is it any different from a regular device somehow?
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iPad 2? Why? So that you can repurchase your apps on both platforms? Makes little sense to me.
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Well I'm not using my first gen iPad as my main device, and I am not planning to do so with iPad 2 either - it's just for few exclusive games and Tap Tap Revenge stuff, so no need in buying anything again
I disagree about one month at best. Media hype started this trend. If pattern follows suit, it's more likely in July 2014.
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Hmm, so if I get a N10 for christmas or my b-day (both of which are in december) - I'll still have 6 months until the tablet is announced and a couple more until it arrives to Russia, which would be pretty similar to my N7 -> N7 2013 scenario
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Those that are saying it is only a month away etc are PURELY speculating, or citing those dodgey link bait troll sites.
There has been NO credible evidence that a second gen N10 is even in existence.
It could be 1 week. It could be 6 months, OR they might NEVER make another 10 incher again!
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True, about speculation and yeah, maybe it does not even exist in the first place, but why would Google ditch the 10" market? The Nexus line needs devices of every popular size there is, and Google delivered just that with N4, N7 and N10. I see no reason in leaving that particular category by not releasing a second gen N10
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Is there anything wrong about the current N10 which justifies delay? I'd say the biggest problem it has is probably battery life.
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What about it? Is 9000mAh battery not enough for a whole day of moderate usage?
Woot currently has a refurbished Nexus 10 32 GB on sale for $279. It's really tempting, but I think I'm going to hold off.
http://tech.woot.com/offers/google-nexus-10-32gb-tablet-8
I just ordered mine off woot... Great deal not to pass up even if new model coming out. Basically ended up being the same price I paid for the nexus 7 2013
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I guess you're talking about Ebay and the like now, right?
Why refurbushed and not just used? Is it any different from a regular device somehow?
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Reason: a bit more protection if its dud, refurbished at least has gone through kind of factory checking.
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What about it? Is 9000mAh battery not enough for a whole day of moderate usage?
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W'e're making different points. I agree the battery is long enough because for those situations I'm using it for many hours, I'm static right next to a mains power which I'd use anyway, those situations where power is not available, there's enough battery life.
I was making the point in the tablet universe, it is not amazingly good life, it is the weakpoint to improve in next version.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57545908-251/battery-life-battle-royale-nexus-vs-ipad/
I have a 12000mah USB larger battery which will do one full recharge of a 9000mah tablet and was like $40 and works with everything, plus a 5400mah slim battery if I was space/weight concerned.
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Reason: a bit more protection if its dud, refurbished at least has gone through kind of factory checking.
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But is it safe to get such a device?
W'e're making different points. I agree the battery is long enough because for those situations I'm using it for many hours, I'm static right next to a mains power which I'd use anyway, those situations where power is not available, there's enough battery life.
I was making the point in the tablet universe, it is not amazingly good life, it is the weakpoint to improve in next version.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57545908-251/battery-life-battle-royale-nexus-vs-ipad/
I have a 12000mah USB larger battery which will do one full recharge of a 9000mah tablet and was like $40 and works with everything, plus a 5400mah slim battery if I was space/weight concerned.
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Well, the almost 3000mAh battery capaticy difference between N10 and iPad 3/4 obviously affects how long a tablet can live, that's not to mention the ridiculous 2500x1600-whatever resolution and the Exynos chip (which, AFAIK but I may be mistaken, isn't as efficent in the battery life aspect as Snapdragon CPUs are)
agree
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I just ordered mine off woot... Great deal not to pass up even if new model coming out. Basically ended up being the same price I paid for the nexus 7 2013
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My thinking exactly, they're still in stock.
I got a few issues, one is when the N10 immediately comes out, it will be only from Google Play, and they'll hit it with both tax and shipping. If I wait a few months (typically) I can get it without either and the price drops. So the Woot offer is $314, whilst N10 successor, in reality will be in the $580 region, which is 85% higher cost.
Refurbished with 90days warranty covers against receiving a dud.
I looked at ebay, and they're selling used for at least that price.
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But is it safe to get such a device?
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I'm not understanding you. From a dealer, on a creditcard, will you get a working system? That's my concern.
If you're concerned about buying just before a successor comes out, then you must cover that in two ways:
only get it if the current specification, performance, meets your needs, so when successor comes out you don't actually have a problem which needs solving.
Take the age of the device into account when buying used. I'd say at the price Woot is asking, its fair given the date N10 came out and the % probability of a new device coming out. The Nexus 10 was announced over a year ago, I'd say chance of a new model announcement soon is high.
If you're trying to decide about waiting for new product which may come out soon, then you'll always have issues, e.g. the new product may get defects with initial batches, so even if the new device was announced today, you'd be wise to not get right anyway, I always wait for others to get it, and let defects get discovered and buy from the 2nd batch anyway so I'd not buy the next N10 for a few months anyway.
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Well, the almost 3000mAh battery capaticy difference between N10 and iPad 3/4 obviously affects how long a tablet can live, that's not to mention the ridiculous 2500x1600-whatever resolution and the Exynos chip (which, AFAIK but I may be mistaken, isn't as efficent in the battery life aspect as Snapdragon CPUs are)
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Anyone who spend hours and hours working on a tablet, should have the PSU with them, I don't think the battery life is so low to render it useless, a typical example of me being away from power is about 3 hours.
The PSU on tablets are small, microusb cables can be small, its not a Netbook with a bulky PSU and cord.
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I'm not understanding you. From a dealer, on a creditcard, will you get a working system? That's my concern.
If you're concerned about buying just before a successor comes out, then you must cover that in two ways:
only get it if the current specification, performance, meets your needs, so when successor comes out you don't actually have a problem which needs solving.
Take the age of the device into account when buying used. I'd say at the price Woot is asking, its fair given the date N10 came out and the % probability of a new device coming out. The Nexus 10 was announced over a year ago, I'd say chance of a new model announcement soon is high.
If you're trying to decide about waiting for new product which may come out soon, then you'll always have issues, e.g. the new product may get defects with initial batches, so even if the new device was announced today, you'd be wise to not get right anyway, I always wait for others to get it, and let defects get discovered and buy from the 2nd batch anyway so I'd not buy the next N10 for a few months anyway.
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My concern is about the "refurbished" mark - what differs a normal new device from the same but refurbished one? From the definition I read about it being returned to the manufacturer for some kind of repairs, but what about scratches, breakings on the body, any damage, etc?
And yeah, if there is a second gen N10 coming - I'm probably getting it anyway, especially if it's not Samsung which means "Hello, Snapdragon" and maybe a Full HD screen instead of current N10's resoltion (like, seriosuly - who needs such a big-a$$ resolution on a 10" tablet!? These number races are killing the industry today ffs)
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My concern is about the "refurbished" mark - what differs a normal new device from the same but refurbished one? From the definition I read about it being returned to the manufacturer for some kind of repairs, but what about scratches, breakings on the body, any damage, etc?
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So your choices:
So imagine the N10's used value is $250 selling on ebay when the N10 2 comes out and suppose to swap to N10 2 in 6 months from now.
If you buy a N10 new now they're available for about $415 delivered, you'll add small blemishes to it, so it will look the same when you sell it as a refurbished one, you'll pay more $ for it and so when you sell it, you've lost $165, so you paid $1/day to use it.
If you buy a refurbished N10 for $314, it will look the same when you sell it as the new one when you sell it, but you lost $64, so you paid $0.4/day to use it.
The key thing is what you get in your hands is fully working with no significant marks than you'd do yourself to a new unit.
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And yeah, if there is a second gen N10 coming - I'm probably getting it anyway, especially if it's not Samsung which means "Hello, Snapdragon" and maybe a Full HD screen instead of current N10's resoltion (like, seriosuly - who needs such a big-a$$ resolution on a 10" tablet!? These number races are killing the industry today ffs)
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Well you've answered your own question then, there are problems for you with the current model, issues you'd find an urgent need to swap it out, so don't buy the current N10 obviously.
I'm that guy who paid $200 for an additional 4MB of memory in 1993 on my PC, things getting better is just a fact of life, the key is to know what is not acceptable to you and hold off buying til what is your need is delivered. Apple started good-spec tablets, but I deemed their
Google is acting to drive down prices, even if N10 2 isn't out soon, they're stimulating the market so you'll get whatever you deem you need eventually.
Also you can get a year warranty for like 50 dollars from woot if you want. Believe you also get the standard 90 day warranty with just the tablet purchase
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Also you can get a year warranty for like 50 dollars from woot if you want. Believe you also get the standard 90 day warranty with just the tablet purchase
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I think 90days is enough to cover for receiving a dud, anything after is really about you accidentally damaging it and those longer warranties do not cover for accidental damage. Hence the free supplied warranty in reality is sufficient.
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Also you can get a year warranty for like 50 dollars from woot if you want. Believe you also get the standard 90 day warranty with just the tablet purchase
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Well not in my case, getting it from the HS, finding it to be broken or something, and then sending it back, and waiting again until a new one arrives... Too much time consuming, especially with how much time the deliveries usually take from the states to Russia (which can reach up to 2 weeks or even more)
I don't care if the nexus 10 2 was $1000 I would buy it the instant it is released..
I get irrationally excited about each new Nexus device, and as such I pre-ordered the N9 as soon as I was able to (32GB version).
Today, I decided that the device is not worth the $500+ cost (including tax and shipping for the 32GB model). I already have a N7 (2013, 32GB), and N10 (16GB), and both still work great for my needs. All I really do is web-browsing and watch movies/TV (Hulu Plus, NetFlix, Google Play Movies) on my tablets, so what is this new device going to offer me in terms of real-world performance? I am a bit of a spec-whore, but the new N9 only has 2GB of RAM and a non-interesting PPI, so I don't feel like the N9 gives any bragging rights.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the N9 will be great, but for my needs, this will be the first Nexus device not making its way into my mailbox.
The N6, on the other hand, will definitely be replacing my N5!
Interesting, why did you decide that the Nexus 6 was a worthy upgrade while the Nexus 9 was not? I certainly understand thinking that neither is worth the upgrade, but the Nexus 9 looks to be a much bigger bump over the Nexus 7 than the Nexus 6 vs the 5. The 9's SoC is much more powerful than the 7's, while the 6 is more of a modest upgrade to the 5.
Nexus 9 is not a successor of the N7, it is from the N10
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Gosh you're making me second guess my pre order.
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Interesting, why did you decide that the Nexus 6 was a worthy upgrade while the Nexus 9 was not? I certainly understand thinking that neither is worth the upgrade, but the Nexus 9 looks to be a much bigger bump over the Nexus 7 than the Nexus 6 vs the 5. The 9's SoC is much more powerful than the 7's, while the 6 is more of a modest upgrade to the 5.
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I agree with this, but I was shocked at the nexus 6 price! No way I can afford that for a while, that's for sure! 4 kids near Xmas lol. I am interested to see the specs and price of the oneplus two! This company has a bright future, Thay just have to lose the frustrating invitation only system.
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Interesting, why did you decide that the Nexus 6 was a worthy upgrade while the Nexus 9 was not? I certainly understand thinking that neither is worth the upgrade, but the Nexus 9 looks to be a much bigger bump over the Nexus 7 than the Nexus 6 vs the 5. The 9's SoC is much more powerful than the 7's, while the 6 is more of a modest upgrade to the 5.
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For my smartphone, the increased screen size of the N6 is useful for things like GPS, watching movies, and reading. I already watch a pretty large amount of video content on my phone, so a bigger screen will improve the experience.
Also, the N6 just looks so pretty
My Nexus 7's touch screen decided to stop working on the hardware side after a year (it took a hard fall while moving this summer but it was in a case) and I couldn't RMA it because the warrantee expired. I decided that the Nexus 9 was worth it for me because of the k1 Denver which is a huge upgrade over the N7 (2013) processor. The 2gb of RAM isn't ideal, however its still more than enough for me to play some games and use it for various things. I am also excited about the larger size, I had a LG G Pad 8.3 until it got water damaged and I miss the larger tablet experience. This summer was full of bad luck with devices for me so I am eager to start fresh with s great new tablet. I considered the Tab S for a while but I couldn't get over that terrible home button and capacitive keys on it. I know everyone is different and the price is high for a nexus but it's still cheaper than a pos ipad.
The nexus 7 can be sluggish at times when rendering complex web pages.
Try androidcentral for example. So I decided to swap it out.
I tried a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 which has an incredible screen and is quite good overall, but that god awful touchwiz with it's stupid small lags drove me nuts - so I sold it as well.
What remains is Nexus 9 I suppose.
I just can't accept a 32GB device. Not now. Not after I've had several devices now with 64GB of storage. My first Android tablet, 3 years ago...32GB plus a 32GB card.
I'll swap the N10 for the N9 and keep the N5 and it's a pretty easy decision for me.
While the N10 still is a great device with a superb display (for 10" tablet) it could use a little more power. I use it to read on the web most of the time and it's often sluggish while browsing now. That especially became apparent after I got the N5.
What's keeping me from getting the N6 is the size and also the price. 6" is just too big for a phone that's supposed to reside in my pocket. If it would be priced in the range of its predecessors I maybe would try it for the fun of it, but at 700 - definitely not.
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I'll swap the N10 for the N9 and keep the N5 and it's a pretty easy decision for me.
While the N10 still is a great device with a superb display (for 10" tablet) it could use a little more power. I use it to read on the web most of the time and it's often sluggish while browsing now. That especially became apparent after I got the N5.
What's keeping me from getting the N6 is the size and also the price. 6" is just too big for a phone that's supposed to reside in my pocket. If it would be priced in the range of its predecessors I maybe would try it for the fun of it, but at 700 - definitely not.
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Really like the sound of the Motorola droid turbo, monster of a phone! Also has a very large battery almost 4000mah
I pre-ordered an lte one from Best Buy and have similar thoughts Maybe the nvidia shield, but, decided to go through with it, and yes I feel its expensive. But had $25 in reward dollars and can pay it off over a year.
I do need a tablet with built in lte do to the fact we do a lot of short trips with medicore wifi, or the hotel charging for medicore wifi. Yes I can wifi tether but it burns the battery down on the phone, and being away, use that as well. Still have about a month to thnk about it, and if I change my mind, can just not open up the packaging and bring it the local BestBuy for a refund.
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I just can't accept a 32GB device. Not now. Not after I've had several devices now with 64GB of storage. My first Android tablet, 3 years ago...32GB plus a 32GB card.
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Depends on needs I suppose. It's no secret the N9 is targeting more productivity-oriented people. If I were primarily a multimedia/games consumer, I wouldn't be terribly interested in the N9.
For me though, I'm a student, and when I'm not doing student stuff, I'm generally doing emails, vid chat, web browsing, maybe a casual game occasionally like poker or something, so the N9 16GB is actually all I need. To be honest the only time I ever feel space constraints is when it comes to loading up a bunch of apps (which I'll never use) or putting HD movies on the device.
Plus, the availability of 64GB otg usb sticks for 40 or so bucks make that a non-issue really.
As for phones, I see no incentives to go from the N5 to the n6. Technically the N5 is still a better phone than most people are using, not to say that from an elitist sense, but the fact that as far as tech specs go, apps and everything else, it's got what most people need (or don't need considering the recent NFC shutoff debacle at walmart and other major retailers)... Especially considering I'm the type of person who will be carrying my N9 just about everywhere. I'm not going toward this "I'll read and browse on my phablet" trend. 6" is too small to enjoy doing tablet stuff, and it's too big to be a comfortable phone, in the pocket and in the hand.
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I get irrationally excited about each new Nexus device, and as such I pre-ordered the N9 as soon as I was able to (32GB version).
Today, I decided that the device is not worth the $500+ cost (including tax and shipping for the 32GB model). I already have a N7 (2013, 32GB), and N10 (16GB), and both still work great for my needs. All I really do is web-browsing and watch movies/TV (Hulu Plus, NetFlix, Google Play Movies) on my tablets, so what is this new device going to offer me in terms of real-world performance? I am a bit of a spec-whore, but the new N9 only has 2GB of RAM and a non-interesting PPI, so I don't feel like the N9 gives any bragging rights.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the N9 will be great, but for my needs, this will be the first Nexus device not making its way into my mailbox.
The N6, on the other hand, will definitely be replacing my N5!
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It's kinda hard to hear someone say that the N9 is too expensive and then decide to go for the much more expensive N6 instead.
I agree that not everyone needs a ton of storage, but there's NO excuse for them to not even give us the option. OTG sticks out, can get broken off, and uses power. So no, it's not a non-issue.
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It's kinda hard to hear someone say that the N9 is too expensive and then decide to go for the much more expensive N6 instead.
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I can certainly understand the confusion, other than the fact that I didn't say the N9 is too expensive. What I said is that the cost of the device is not worth it FOR ME, given the devices I already have and the usage requirements for said devices. N9 will no doubt be a great device, and if I were buying a new tablet today, it would be the first (and only) one on my list.
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The nexus 7 can be sluggish at times when rendering complex web pages.
Try androidcentral for example. So I decided to swap it out.
I tried a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 which has an incredible screen and is quite good overall, but that god awful touchwiz with it's stupid small lags drove me nuts - so I sold it as well.
What remains is Nexus 9 I suppose.
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Don't forget to mention Knox
Well, if it didnt have knox I would have just gotten rid of the damn touchwiz. But then you'd have warranty problems in case the tablet decides to die someday.
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Well, if it didnt have knox I would have just gotten rid of the damn touchwiz. But then you'd have warranty problems in case the tablet decides to die someday.
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I got rid of n3 because of that Knox crap! Warranty void once triggered 0x1 ?
As the title says I can't decide!
I currently have an Asus TF300T and was thinking of upgrading but I've gone and cracked the screen and it's no longer responding so I definitely have to upgrade now.
I was thinking of the nexus 9, it's new and supposedly fast but then I came across the nvidia shield tablet and now I can't make up my mind.
I am a casual to moderate PC gamer and have a GTX770 in my rig, and the thought of being able to stream my pc games to the shield really interests me, especially if I can put it in console mode and play the games on my living room TV with the nvidia controller, which would be great for those moments where the girlfriend complains I spend too much time in my man cave [emoji12]
Reading through the forums there seem to be plenty of posts with problems (granted people don't usually have something to say unless they are complaining), but I'm not to sure whether to take the plunge?
I may just order one and see how it works out, if I don't like it or have any issues I guess I can always send it back and order a nexus 9.
What do you guys think?
I may also unlock it and install custom firmware if there are any available as I always do with any android device [emoji4]
I was in the same boat as you. After much thought and deliberation over many factors I ended up going with the 32GB Shield and I LOVE it.
I have owned/used a couple dozen android devices over many years and none of them are even close in regards to the speed and sheer lag free smoothness of the Shield.
In the real world I don't think that there will be much of a performance difference between the N9 and the shield. I do think that the shield may be able to run under a heavy load longer without throttling itself. I've run the most demanding games on the platform and it barely gets warm. There are a lot of reports about how the Nexus 9 gets extremely hot in an isolated spot near the camera which is of some concern (maybe software updates will alleviate this somewhat, but hard to say).
If you just can't live without a 4:3 aspect ratio, get the Nexus. Otherwise I think the shield is an outstanding device. Keep in mind that the 32GB/LTE Nexus 9 is $599 while the equivalent Shield is $399.
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I was looking at the 32GB shield, for the price it's definitely better value than the N9.
How do you find the screen size? I'm a little worried about finding 8 inches a little small after coming from a 10 incher! Lol
Is it really super smooth and lag free? If so I'm definitely going to get one, most android devices I've used have always had a little lag, but that's because I could never afford the top of the range ones.
Although I am no artist or something, I wouln't buy any device anymore that has no stylus. Is so much easier to select text, links, play Nintendo DS emulators. And besides, using the stylus keeps the display nice and clean. I love it.
I'm torn as well, the only reason I haven't gone with the Sheild yet over the Nexus is due to the smaller screen size. I'm buying a tablet for school productivity and for entertainment, the Nexus's screen size seems ideal for both. If the Sheild was bigger without being that much heavier, I would have gone with it without any hesitation.
I'm coming from a Nexus 7 to the shield so the 1 inch difference in size feels significant to me. I came to the decision for myself that the N9 was just a touch too large/wide for holding it comfortably for extended periods.
I feel that the 16:10/1920x1200/8 inch screen is pretty much ideal for a device I carry every day.
If I had bought the N9 I think I'd be likely to leave it home more frequently as it really is quite a bit bulkier.
I like both devices but I don't regret my choice in any manner.
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It is BY FAR the smoothest running android device I've ever owned. My daughter has an iPad mini retina and the Shield is every bit as silky smooth as her iPad. Not exaggerating in the slightest...
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the 1 inch difference in size feels significant to me. I came to
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I feel ya there buddy
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Har har !
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So I was in a similar boat. I was hyped for the N9 as the rumors of it's specs were tossed about and I was fully in when it was rumored to depart from Nexus standard and include a MicroSD slot. I did consider the Shield as it was getting released and hung around these forums reading about how folks had various issues but it also seemed that Nvidia really stepped up and supported their product well which I was impressed with. Storage was the huge issue for me and Nexus really dropped the ball with only 32GB and no MicroSD.
I too came from the TF300T although I didn't worry about the transition on size. I've been telling women for years that 10 inches is highly overrated and 8 is much better. It (the tablet) is light weight, more comfortable to use and the screen size is amazing.
Also if you do your homework you'll likely find some folks ditching theirs on Craiglist or eBay to by new iPads and N9's and they are usually willing to part with them cheap. I bought an RMA replacement unit from a guy on CL and have been thrilled with it.
Just my opinion and thoughts but best of luck!
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As the title says I can't decide!
I currently have an Asus TF300T and was thinking of upgrading but I've gone and cracked the screen and it's no longer responding so I definitely have to upgrade now.
I was thinking of the nexus 9, it's new and supposedly fast but then I came across the nvidia shield tablet and now I can't make up my mind.
I am a casual to moderate PC gamer and have a GTX770 in my rig, and the thought of being able to stream my pc games to the shield really interests me, especially if I can put it in console mode and play the games on my living room TV with the nvidia controller, which would be great for those moments where the girlfriend complains I spend too much time in my man cave [emoji12]
Reading through the forums there seem to be plenty of posts with problems (granted people don't usually have something to say unless they are complaining), but I'm not to sure whether to take the plunge?
I may just order one and see how it works out, if I don't like it or have any issues I guess I can always send it back and order a nexus 9.
What do you guys think?
I may also unlock it and install custom firmware if there are any available as I always do with any android device [emoji4]
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I'd highly suggest buying the Shield Tablet LTE over the Nexus 9. You must realize that high graphics games can take up to 5GB of space each and thus 32GB with no expandability isn't a viable if you want to actually use the tablet to the fullest. You will be out of space in no time just installing around ten games. The Nexus 9 is far more expensive in any case, so the Shield is a much better buy.
Also take in mind that Nvidia Hub game streaming should not be the deciding factor for purchasing the Shield as Limelight brings that functionality to most devices. I've used it on my TF701.
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PMSL
Thanks for all the replies, I'm definitely leaning towards the shield as I think it may be better all around for me.
I don't really like the ipad look of the N9, and I think the shield would be a perfect size for me. In all honesty I sometimes found my 10 inch TF300T a little too big at times and also difficult to hold, 8 inches would be much more comfortable ? lol
I also like the fact that the shield comes with a stylus, I'm no artist myself but I actually used to be one of sorts and it's something I've slowly been getting back into, I have a wacom graphics tablet plugged into my PC, so the stylus may actually be another good selling point for me.
I'm also used to having an SD card so I don't think I could do with out one.
Gaming would be an awesome addition especially with the control pad. I was just looking at the limelight app too but unfortunately I can't test it out as my TF300T is now dead, so I have no choice but to get a new device.
I've added the shield and the GamePad to my shopping basket... but I'm away from home at the moment on holiday so I'm going to have to wait until I get a back home to actually buy lol!
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I was looking at the 32GB shield, for the price it's definitely better value than the N9.
How do you find the screen size? I'm a little worried about finding 8 inches a little small after coming from a 10 incher! Lol
Is it really super smooth and lag free? If so I'm definitely going to get one, most android devices I've used have always had a little lag, but that's because I could never afford the top of the range ones.
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I came from a TF300T to a Nexus 7 2013. I can say with all confidence that I didn't miss the extra three inches, basically because the TF300T is 720p and the Nexus 7 2013 is 1080p.
Its the resolution, not the size, that matters.
Now I have the NST LTE 32GB, I can say the extra inch *does* matter. 8" is the new 7" in my opinion. Perfect for the hand still, and I can even put in in my Levi Jeans pocket (though it sticks out a bit) for temporary hands-free transport.
64bit is great and all, but until app developers start making games compatible with the architecture, you're better off getting the NST. So much cheaper, an awesome Wi-Fi direct controller supported natively, nice standard inclusions in the ROM like native screen recording and twitching.
I currently have the Nexus 9 but it has to many quirks... I ordered a shield instead hopefully i nwill be much better, the reviews seem great on it :good:
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I currently have the Nexus 9 but it has to many quirks... I ordered a shield instead hopefully i nwill be much better, the reviews seem great on it :good:
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If you could let me know how you find the comparison between them that would be fantastic!
I'm still leaning towards the shield, and it's still sitting in my shopping basket [emoji4]
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If you could let me know how you find the comparison between them that would be fantastic!
I'm still leaning towards the shield, and it's still sitting in my shopping basket [emoji4]
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My shield will be here today and I still have my Nexus 9 for the time being so I will let you know for sure, cheers!
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My shield will be here today and I still have my Nexus 9 for the time being so I will let you know for sure, cheers!
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I'd be interested to hear too as a currently dissatisfied Nexus 9 owner.
I can not speak for the shield as I have not had a chance to try one out yet, although I seriously considering getting one, but having played with a Nexus 9 for about a half hour the impression I was left with is that it is not worth the money. I really feel like it is a big swing and miss. I don't like the dimensions, the 64 bit chip appears to be an app compatibility issue, no expandable storage, etc. For a tablet that runs $399 for a wifi 16gb it does not feel that well put together. I don't know maybe my mind would change with longer use but after using it I felt not only would I not buy it for $399 I probably would not be that tempted to buy it at $299
Okay so I got my shield and as of right now I have decided against doing a video comparision for now, there doesnt seem to be enough interest. However I'm willing to post any kind of picture or answer any questions. So far on the shield there doesn't seem to any hardware quirks the Nexus has, its a solid feeling device. The ONLY very minor nit pick I have so far is when tap the back there is a little bit of give so it makes a bit of a clack sound, but it doesnt bother me at all. Theres no light bleed which is super nice. Its so much more comfortable to hold than the Nexus 9, the texture on the back of the device is very pleasing and very grippy(if thats even a word) the Nexus 9 doesnt feel nearly as nice to hold. I cant say too much about long term battery life but thus far its awesome, but cant comment on how it compares to the Nexus. I love the pen its very sensitive, but it doesnt have pressure sensitivity which is no biggy for me. Anyway, thats all I can think of off the top of my head, ask away!
This so much better than lackluster overpriced N9.
Also google does next to nothing to optimise or take advantage of their hardware. Nvidia on the other hand does.
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