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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4vijEfQaQ
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SGS2 vs laptop.
I crown it Samsung Galaxy S Jizz.
At least the other phones don't self combust
Or having a 1/2 day battery life...
DocRambone said:
Or having a 1/2 day battery life...
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Thats what I was kind of getting at!
tameracingdriver said:
At least the other phones don't self combust
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ok that made me laugh
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Or having a 1/2 day battery life...
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what are you running on it causing it to die in 1/2 day?
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what are you running on it causing it to die in 1/2 day?
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A samsung stock rom.
At least the other phones wifi works properly
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4vijEfQaQ
Next match up
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I crown it Samsung Galaxy S Jizz.
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Galaxy S2 is a sorta a fail in my opinion actually or should i call it a midstop in a right direction
1) First bad graphics choice. mali400 is much weaker than Power VR543 (so chances are this time iphone will have better graphics especially since it's software will be build specifically for it). If they go for mali t604 next year it will be roughly 20 times more powerfull (5 times mali400 core to core)
2) No 3D (not completely necessary at the moment since software needs to be optimized for it first, but certainly not future-proof).
3) Same cheap plastic iphone-like design (least make it something different for once, i like optimus 3D design for instance)
4) To take advantage of multicore and it's improved battery life u need Ice cream Sandwich (in ur face) which wouldn't be out now till Christmas and last time i checked Samsung doesn't have good update history and by THAT time u will hearing about quad-core phones being released shortly (just google- already a bunch of rumors about it). What gives the S2 speed at the moment is 1.2 GHz vs 1ghz from the last and EXT4 and other optimization of gingerbread with better drivers
Via twitter back a few month ago samsung was also considering about quad-core and 3d in their next phone, but i also found this topic about Eldar Murtazin which still exists: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...iPhone-5-both-slated-for-fall-release_id18446
As u see it also has some very interesting info about new screen technology and direction that Samsung is heading to, although i highly doubt about 6 month release table (it will most probably be carrier specific, aka galaxy S2 captivate with 4.5 inch screen, 2GHz dual-core, 4g etc for AT&T like Samsung infuse 4G, for Christmas), it certainly gives u an idea that this phone will be outdated within just few month. So whether u like it or not (or ignore my comment), just see for urself next year when u wasted money!
I certainly wouldn't spend 700 dollars on unlocked phone when a better one will be out in 6-10 month
NOW, many of u might say to me that this is either just rumors or that u can't catch up to technology, but this actually quite false.
First of all many of these rumors are originated from information leaked during prototype testing phases.
Second technology moves in steps.
For instance, while we will see quad-core phones next year (and no doubt about it, Sony NGP (not phone) will be first portable quad-core coming out by end of this year already), we will NOT see 8 core phones any time soon since cortex a9 only supports up to 4 cores and cortex a15 only up to 2 in a phone. Also how many laptops have 8 core CPU- most have stopped at 2 or 4.
we already witnessed how mega-pixel race has ended in 2009 since no phones since then went for 16mp or more. In fact Samsung galaxy s went back to 5 after developing 8mp camera phones (innov8 and i8910 HD) for 2 years.
Screens wouldn't go larger than 4.3 inch (otherwise wouldn't be portable), and 1080p video recording is as high as it can get, so in those things S2 maxes out already on what is possible. Also it's 1GB ram should hopefully be enough to run multiple apps this time although not as many as symbian. But it isn't perfect by any means.
Still if Samsung continue to push forward like in S2, their next phone will be maxed out in just about everything that the software will require.
After that it will mostly be smaller cpu architectural changes and while CPU may stay at 4, gpu can go up to 16 cores, however how much would u really need??
this is what i mean by software cause no developer will be willing to develop crysis 2 for phones and sell it for 10 bucks. power 543 is needed for Sony NGP more than anything else. (i still have Samsung i8910 and it can run all the games ur S2 can as long as it's out for Symbian^3)
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i still have Samsung i8910 and it can run all the games ur S2 can as long as it's out for Symbian^3)
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I feel for you mate, I had that phone for a while, good hardware at the time but symbian kind of made it suck.
Even now theres not much available for it and many of the high end games run pretty badly, I give it to my sister so I still play around with it now and again.
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Galaxy S2 is a sorta a fail in my opinion actually or should i call it a midstop in a right direction
1) First bad graphics choice. mali400 is much weaker than Power VR543 (so chances are this time iphone will have better graphics especially since it's software will be build specifically for it). If they go for mali t604 next year it will be roughly 20 times more powerfull (5 times mali400 core to core)
2) No 3D (not completely necessary at the moment since software needs to be optimized for it first, but certainly not future-proof).
3) Same cheap plastic iphone-like design (least make it something different for once, i like optimus 3D design for instance)
4) To take advantage of multicore and it's improved battery life u need Ice cream Sandwich (in ur face) which wouldn't be out now till Christmas and last time i checked Samsung doesn't have good update history and by THAT time u will hearing about quad-core phones being released shortly (just google- already a bunch of rumors about it). What gives the S2 speed at the moment is 1.2 GHz vs 1ghz from the last and EXT4 and other optimization of gingerbread with better drivers
Via twitter back a few month ago samsung was also considering about quad-core and 3d in their next phone, but i also found this topic about Eldar Murtazin which still exists: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...iPhone-5-both-slated-for-fall-release_id18446
As u see it also has some very interesting info about new screen technology and direction that Samsung is heading to, although i highly doubt about 6 month release table (it will most probably be carrier specific, aka galaxy S2 captivate with 4.5 inch screen, 2GHz dual-core, 4g etc for AT&T like Samsung infuse 4G, for Christmas), it certainly gives u an idea that this phone will be outdated within just few month. So whether u like it or not (or ignore my comment), just see for urself next year when u wasted money!
I certainly wouldn't spend 700 dollars on unlocked phone when a better one will be out in 6-10 month
NOW, many of u might say to me that this is either just rumors or that u can't catch up to technology, but this actually quite false.
First of all many of these rumors are originated from information leaked during prototype testing phases.
Second technology moves in steps.
For instance, while we will see quad-core phones next year (and no doubt about it, Sony NGP (not phone) will be first portable quad-core coming out by end of this year already), we will NOT see 8 core phones any time soon since cortex a9 only supports up to 4 cores and cortex a15 only up to 2 in a phone. Also how many laptops have 8 core CPU- most have stopped at 2 or 4.
we already witnessed how mega-pixel race has ended in 2009 since no phones since then went for 16mp or more. In fact Samsung galaxy s went back to 5 after developing 8mp camera phones (innov8 and i8910 HD) for 2 years.
Screens wouldn't go larger than 4.3 inch (otherwise wouldn't be portable), and 1080p video recording is as high as it can get, so in those things S2 maxes out already on what is possible. Also it's 1GB ram should hopefully be enough to run multiple apps this time although not as many as symbian. But it isn't perfect by any means.
Still if Samsung continue to push forward like in S2, their next phone will be maxed out in just about everything that the software will require.
After that it will mostly be smaller cpu architectural changes and while CPU may stay at 4, gpu can go up to 16 cores, however how much would u really need??
this is what i mean by software cause no developer will be willing to develop crysis 2 for phones and sell it for 10 bucks. power 543 is needed for Sony NGP more than anything else. (i still have Samsung i8910 and it can run all the games ur S2 can as long as it's out for Symbian^3)
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I'll just have to buy that phone when it comes out then, it's only money bro.
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I'll just have to buy that phone when it comes out then, it's only money bro.
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Lmao awesome answer. I think he's one of these people who never buys any tech cos he keeping thinking a newer one will be just around the corner.
On the point of updates though, who brought the first GB to the market?
Facts: the Galaxy S II is the fastest and most powerful hand-held device ever
, and (this includes the iPhone 5) it is the only portable device in the world than can play 1080p MKV and flash videos as smooth as butter for which the screen size and technology is ideal.
I personally think quad-cores in a cell phone is overkill, anyway. I mean, at present, the Galaxy S II perfectly does the above and multi-tasks and launches apps instantly - how much more can a quad core processor improve on that? Not much as its so fast to begin with. Plus, factoring in the fact that with dual-core even, battery drainage is a problem, i shudder to think how long the battery would last of a quad-core chip, especially if it had a fast GPU.
And on the subject of the GPU, the SGSII isn't targeted at hardcore gamers anyway - it'll do its job if its able to play most big title commercial and casual games well, and it's relative power would ensure future mainstream titles such as NFS would be playable at a smooth framerate- this is it's target audience. Simply put, if gaming is your first priority then this device isn't for you.
A real hardcore gaming phone will be the next iteration of the Xperia Play - with an nvidia chipset and PS2 game emulation and all that jazz - designed specifically for gamers. Just cannot play serious games without a joypad.
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3D is a waste of space, time and money
the sgs2 is much faster than my sgs1 yet both have ext4 and my sgs1* runs at 1.3Ghz.
not bothering to reply to the rest which are pretty much dumb assertions. phones get updated every 6-10 month since 5 years (except the iPhone). Get over it already.
This phone its so fast.. Forget what these videos have say, once you get the phone and see for your self you'll appreciate it more. Sometimes I can't believe this device that its so light and slim is this fast and I actually do think its more comparable to a laptop Than any phone out at the moment. It loads iplayer videos faster than my ps3 and just as fast as my pc. Way faster than my iphone 4 or my brothers desire hd.. way faster.
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Galaxy S2 is a sorta a fail in my opinion actually or should i call it a midstop in a right direction
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So if it's "midstop in a right direction," what in your considered opinion is the phone we should all be getting assuming we want/need a phone in the next few months? This will be Samsung's flagship on the U.S. carriers for nine months to a year and it hasn't even launched their yet. As fast as technology moves I'm sure the SGS2 will evolve and that there will be an SGS3, but it's not going to be in the next six to nine months. As someone said earlier, if we all wait for the utopian phone we'll die with a TouchPro in our hands.
Don't judge me because i still use a touch pro!
so coming from an atrix (which is definitely underrated once blur is taken care of through TB) would it be worth the 200 or so extra? Im seeing very mixed reviews about this phone as well
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so coming from an atrix (which is definitely underrated once blur is taken care of through TB) would it be worth the 200 or so extra? Im seeing very mixed reviews about this phone as well
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Well worth it tbh. Came from my atrix, havent regreted it for a second. The atrix isnt in the same league
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i have been toying with the idea and while i can still get $500+ for the atrix. Nice to hear it from an x atrix user. I just dont know what the best way to get this phone to Canada is.
I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
lots of!
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Of course!
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I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
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Galaxian kernel?
Dragooon123 said:
I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
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Arre bhai, why'd you get the SGS? An android dual core phone would be a better alternative.
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I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
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i am guessing you have the xda app? a good tip for anyone with an android phone ....
It's time to buy a galaxy s 2 or any other dual core phone
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Galaxian kernel?
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better semaphore. it is as fast as galaxian but with contribution for the community
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Because the galaxy s2 was a lot more than my budget, I couldnt afford it.
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Because the galaxy s2 was a lot more than my budget, I couldnt afford it.
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dont worry, you bought just the right phone root it, flash a recent 2.3.4 firmware, customize it and have the best value for money phone on the market today there are no kind of apps which really need a faster phone, dual core phones have a really small share of the user base, it will probably take at least 2 more years until they offer any benefit.
I'll give You one tip... be aware of flashing. Since I've bought mine i'm flashing few times a week I don't remember if some rom lasted for a whole week. Will see... Now I'm on galnet's miui and maybe this will be the first one
I had the desire for over 6 months and flashed it on day 1, so I'm no stranger to it and the damn addictiob. So far I am content with my curent setup.
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My recommendations: Darky ROM 10.1 or Ryyu's EDB v1.3 ROM; Semaphore ,TalonDEV or DarkCore kernels!
What would be the most snazzy/beautiful ROM/widget combo out there?
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dont worry, you bought just the right phone root it, flash a recent 2.3.4 firmware, customize it and have the best value for money phone on the market today there are no kind of apps which really need a faster phone, dual core phones have a really small share of the user base, it will probably take at least 2 more years until they offer any benefit.
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Have to disagree with you there. It is not just in the benchmarks that the dual core makes a difference.
You are sadly mistaken, if you think that to be the case.. Just read up a bit, and you'll understand.
Remember when Intel C2D (Conroe) came? There were hardly any application making use of two cores, but still there was a significant advantage.. ~50-60% over similarly clocked single core processors. (not considering the architecture, which significantly increased the IPC). [ One of the reasons, why increasing the core-clock to around 1.44 GHZ, would be enough to somewhat offset the advantage of a dual core 1Ghz Tegra 2 process. But, if you think of it that way, even Tegra 2 can be clocked higher..]
That is because , even though a single application couldn't make use of two cores, a single application could make full use of the single core. (all background processes could run on single core). Thus ,effectively increasing the multitasking capability..(with more RAM like SGS2, it makes a huge difference!!).
And probably the most VFM Android phone in the higher end market is the Nexus S (despite its obvious shortcomings, like lack of HD video recording), imo..
i'd have to agree with Hrithan2020 that any dual core phone is definitely going to be significantly faster and responsive than any single core but i see dbraakers point too... since dual core phones are still so new, they really do have a small user base meaning that it will take some time for majority of the software developers to make programs and upgrades that utililize the dual cores full potential. i'm currently in the same situation, SGS vs LG O2x. O2x is only $25 more but SGS has a better dev community and is a lot more stable. i'm going to wait it out a bit to see if o2x community picks up. i wish i could go for the sgs2 (who wouldnt?) but i cant justify spending an extra $200-$300 for it when all that i'm mostly going to do is browse the web and send text messages. SGS would suffice but at $25 more, why not get the O2x?
Great analogy on the Intel C2D processors... but i dont think Dragooon made a bad choice cause the SGS is still a great, solid phone that will can hold its own over the next 2 years. budget is a factor for many of us so just because the latest intel i7-990x ($1100) is available, doesnt mean the i7-960 ($300) isnt still a good option that can satisfy the users needs. just my .02 cents =)
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i'd have to agree with Hrithan2020 that any dual core phone is definitely going to be significantly faster and responsive than any single core but i see dbraakers point too... since dual core phones are still so new, they really do have a small user base meaning that it will take some time for majority of the software developers to make programs and upgrades that utililize the dual cores full potential. i'm currently in the same situation, SGS vs LG O2x. O2x is only $25 more but SGS has a better dev community and is a lot more stable. i'm going to wait it out a bit to see if o2x community picks up. i wish i could go for the sgs2 (who wouldnt?) but i cant justify spending an extra $200-$300 for it when all that i'm mostly going to do is browse the web and send text messages. SGS would suffice but at $25 more, why not get the O2x?
Great analogy on the Intel C2D processors... but i dont think Dragooon made a bad choice cause the SGS is still a great, solid phone that will can hold its own over the next 2 years. budget is
a factor for many of us so just because the latest intel i7-990x ($1100) is available, doesnt mean the i7-960 ($300) isnt still a good option that can satisfy the users needs. just my .02 cents =)
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True. But, the difference between an SGS and SGS 2 , is not that high, is it? How much is it? 200$?. TBH, I have been itching to dump my SGS and buy SGS 2,but the form factor (more than the price) , helps to prevent my wallets from being empty ..
[ Two things, I am not satisfied about my SGS, GPS and low RAM, despite trying all fixes, would be significantly improved with SGS 2]
Also, particularly in the case of phones, the firmware makes a huge difference. (as can be noticed by the huge performance difference between the older eclair firmware vs the 2.2.1 froyo ones, for SGS). As it stands, O2X (stock) feels almost the same as SGS, in terms of responsiveness.. But, I am sure, some nice custom ROM's would help significantly widen the lead?
And, I feel that SGS's achilles heal is the low RAM, which the O2X also unfortunately shares. (330/340 vs 372 user available RAM).. You are right, in the sense, that there wouldn't be applications which would make use of the two cores fully; but better thread management by OS, could significantly help. [ ie. without applications being aware of the two/four cores, the OS would automatically spread the jobs over multiple cores.... which could probably be only in Android 4.0 or ICS] .. So, the days of single core are still not gone, but it won't be long before single core phones are pushed into the mid-end of the market..
(Nowadays,it is mostly near high end)..
Yes I know it isnt current but I am 16 year old student, so that 250$ is a big deal for me.
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Yes I know it isnt current but I am 16 year old student, so that 250$ is a big deal for me.
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Wow!! For 250$, it is a real VFM.. You stay in India only , right? How did you manage to get it for so cheap?
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Wow!! For 250$, it is a real VFM.. You stay in India only , right? How did you manage to get it for so cheap?
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No, what I meant was that the extra 250$ it would've taken for me to get a SGSII is a big deal for me. I got my SGS for a 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$
Yes , all the hypes about the new dual core phones, the tabs made me thought for the past month Its time to move alone.
IT has been last jan i have the galaxy s, I went through some readouts about samsung tab 1st.
It seemed the only handy size of the tab is the single core 7 inch, which is same as galaxy s, same price when i got the galaxy as new. so its a no go. I checked out the cheaper new one of tab 6200 , no go, I chked the 10 inche tab...its too big lol
Galaxy S 2 ? its twice the price what its delivering, So no samsung for me for now.
Ericsson? I chked RAY, ARC NEO ETc, donno what! lol all no goes.
HTC? Never used one , and dont feel like.
So i decided to stick to galaxy S cause none of the new phones are worth compared to upgrades and prices and the new MIUI ICS is kinda rocking with ma phone.
Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks
I'm with you dude, can't see the point in getting a sgs2 for a little more speed, I want my next phone to offer something different for the price, may be the sgs3 or something else. The sgs1 does everything I need and does it well, plus, smaller than sgs2 and better sound with voodoo. Now got great battery with 2540 mah battery and semaphore with smartassv2, loving it. Also remember that you learn more as you play, tune, test, flash. Many people using sgs2 just leave
It running in default mode
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I'm with you dude, can't see the point in getting a sgs2 for a little more speed, I want my next phone to offer something different for the price, may be the sgs3 or something else. The sgs1 does everything I need and does it well, plus, smaller than sgs2 and better sound with voodoo. Now got great battery with 2540 mah battery and semaphore with smartassv2, loving it. Also remember that you learn more as you play, tune, test, flash. Many people using sgs2 just leave
It running in default mode
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No doubt the SGS is still a powerful phone and will last many people at least another year.
BTW I also upgraded my SGS battery. I got the 1650Mah Samsung Armani battery which is the same physical size as the OG SGS stock, but gives me the extra juice I need to use my phone with even more moderate daily usage...
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I love my SGS for every other reason except its RAM. This is bcz mostly i like playing games and due to low memory games stuck like hell. If it just had 768MB of ram, I would have never thought of upgrading. Anyway, still i have this machine and i am gonna keep it.
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I love my SGS for every other reason except its RAM. This is bcz mostly i like playing games and due to low memory games stuck like hell. If it just had 768MB of ram, I would have never thought of upgrading. Anyway, still i have this machine and i am gonna keep it.
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Low ram is compelling me to upgrade to SGS 2 or HTC Sensation XE !
A good decision, dude.
I will also stay with my Galaxy S, got it one year ago and still luv this phone more than anything. Ok, sgs2 has a more powerful cpu and gpu, but I actually dont play to much with my phone, only some small games like doodle jump, angry birds or Fruit Ninja THD
It has such a powerful gpu, that even the galaxy nexus uses it, ok, its version is clocked at 384mhz or so, but doesnt matter, it is one of the most powerful gpu solutions in the single-core world (is also used at 300mhz on the lg optimus 3d)
But in my opinion its the fault of gameloft and all the other developers, that the gaming performance is so f*ckin bad on our sgs.
On the iPhone 4 and iPad e.g. Asphalt 6 runs as fluid as hell, also fast and furious does. And both devices have a higher resolution, but a weaker gpu (PowerVR SGX535)
If the developers would code for the plattform instead of porting the whole stuff down from iOS, then all the hd-versions from iPad would run fluid on sgs and other devices. So thats the main reason, why we need a much more powerful hardware with android, to gain the same gaming expirience like on iOS-Devices.
B2T: Keep the phone as long as you can. It is solid made, a really scratch-resisent screen, awesome and it has imo the best size, I think that 4,3inch is just to big for a phone
BTW:
Why do you think all the american carreers release almost every second month a new phone based on the galaxy s. Sometimes with a 4,5inch screen like the infuse or with a keyboard like the sprints epic 4g and some other phones I dont remeber atm
So, have fun, dude
I stay with my I9000 too, it's still the best mix of cpu, gpu and durability for me. Regarding RAM I use the great Thunderbolt Tweaks and Semaphore kernel, which results in a very fast and stable SGS.
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@angry_machine, Your decision is absolutely correct. I was also thinking to upgrade to SGSII, but after seeing it in a mobile market i changed my mind. NOthing much different. I bought my SGS last year in Oct, and it's the best phone I ever had. And I'm having no issues with it. Technology will never stop, so we should not change to every next model. Only change it when you really need. I Will stick to it until a change is must.
Voted 5-star because I feel the same.
I'm on the same boat, with all these powerhouse phones coming out I was really thinking about just buying a new phone outwidth my contract. My contract ends in August and I just think to myself, what kind of phones will be on the market by then? Tbh it's worth the wait.
do you hear about samsung galaxy note?
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-s3-battery-en.shtml
This device is really optimized, the battery finally is really good!
Great read, this phone will be amazing.!!
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that test is rigged!
those guys are paid by samsung just like all the review sites!
that is a HOaX!
nice review of battery life. DO note these are achieved with all stock settings. Once the custom kernel arrives we can get much battery life and even we can disable some cores as needed.
I hope the battery life on the S4 version is comparable. Its too bad LTE markets can't get Exynos.
that's how a jailed/imprisoned/encased/captured/irreplaceable/unchangeable/trapped/smothered battery on other units should perform.
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that's how a jailed/imprisoned/encased/captured/irreplaceable/unchangeable/trapped/smothered battery on other units should perform.
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Lolz....
This is why Android sucks...one has to tinker.to.get optimum anything...crom batt life to themes....why can't we have a smartphone that can run full tilt cor two days on single.charge.
Buy a ferrari..but drive it on 2 cylinders.
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This is why Android sucks...one has to tinker.to.get optimum anything...crom batt life to themes....why can't we have a smartphone that can run full tilt cor two days on single.charge.
Buy a ferrari..but drive it on 2 cylinders.
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You have the Droid Razr Maxx.
Tinkering is the reason why I'm switching back to Android.
I took a year off tinkering and had an iPhone. It was a good year, but now iOS bores me to death. The games are SO much better than Android games, but the OS just bores me, and the screen is starting to feel too small.
The great thing is, you can choose whether you want a phone to tinker with or a "set it and forget it" type of experience.
Also, my wife does not tinker. Ever. She has had an HTC Legend for two years now and she's quite satisfied with it, she even brags about the great battery life sometimes. I'm giving her my iPhone once I get my SGS3 because I think she will love iOS more than Android.
It's good to have options. Options are yummy.
My point is, if you don't want to tinker, choose an OS that has the default UI that you like the most. Whining about hackability and modability (that's probably not a word) is kinda weird IMO.
This is pretty nice
If the battery life of the iPhone is really that great, they must have improved it a lot. Because my 3GS had poor battery life.
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You have the Droid Razr Maxx.
Tinkering is the reason why I'm switching back to Android.
I took a year off tinkering and had an iPhone. It was a good year, but now iOS bores me to death. The games are SO much better than Android games, but the OS just bores me, and the screen is starting to feel too small.
The great thing is, you can choose whether you want a phone to tinker with or a "set it and forget it" type of experience.
Also, my wife does not tinker. Ever. She has had an HTC Legend for two years now and she's quite satisfied with it, she even brags about the great battery life sometimes. I'm giving her my iPhone once I get my SGS3 because I think she will love iOS more than Android.
It's good to have options. Options are yummy.
My point is, if you don't want to tinker, choose an OS that has the default UI that you like the most. Whining about hackability and modability (that's probably not a word) is kinda weird IMO.
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All iam saying is that i shouldn't have to tinker to get most out of myphone...smart phones are following pc route of bumping up processor speeds and adding cores...keep the cpu at dual core, improve on design and efficiency and deliver a smartphone that is truely better than the previous model.
you need quad cores to do facebook, email, video, blogging, tweeting..or anyother business apps.???.. Arrghh.
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All iam saying is that i shouldn't have to tinker to get most out of myphone...smart phones are following pc route of bumping up processor speeds and adding cores...keep the cpu at dual core, improve on design and efficiency and deliver a smartphone that is truely better than the previous model.
you need quad cores to do facebook, email, video, blogging, tweeting..or anyother business apps.???.. Arrghh.
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Smartphones are becoming the ONE device to carry.
I can imagine the 4 cores being used for gaming by one intensive game, but more importantly they can be used for doing 4 things at the same time. We are using our smartphones more than our PCs these days, so it makes sense to keep upgrading while at the same time improving on architecture and efficiency. And this is what Samsung has done with the S3.
By your logic we should have stayed at single core at around 600 MHz and never improved..
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Agent5150 said:
All iam saying is that i shouldn't have to tinker to get most out of myphone
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This is an impossibility. Tinkering will always get you some more power/features (excepting only cases where the OS is so locked down that doing anything will fry it, for example) and so you'll always have to tinker to "get the most out of yourphone".
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This is why Android sucks...one has to tinker.to.get optimum anything...crom batt life to themes....why can't we have a smartphone that can run full tilt cor two days on single.charge.
Buy a ferrari..but drive it on 2 cylinders.
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Each to their own. Personally if I had a Ferrari I'd be constantly tuning it.
ECrispy said:
I hope the battery life on the S4 version is comparable. Its too bad LTE markets can't get Exynos.
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lol the S4 is better than the quadcore exynos.
PS: "Tinkering" should be an option... not a need. Most android phones NEED to be tinkered with in order to get a somewhat reasonably satisfying experience.
So, why did I order a second battery? No need =d
saffant said:
lol the S4 is better than the quadcore exynos.
PS: "Tinkering" should be an option... not a need. Most android phones NEED to be tinkered with in order to get a somewhat reasonably satisfying experience.
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I agree and I believe that it's essential for Android's future success to allow for a near perfect user experience without tweaking. But, that being said, looking at the other mobile OSes, you'll see that you're very restricted in customization which is an advantage and a disadvantage. But I guess as time goes on, both batteries and processors will get better (not linearly) and it won't really be an issue.
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This is why Android sucks...one has to tinker.to.get optimum anything...crom batt life to themes....why can't we have a smartphone that can run full tilt cor two days on single.charge.
Buy a ferrari..but drive it on 2 cylinders.
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People tinker with the chips in their BMWs to get optimal performance.Do you think THEY suck...?
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With Juice Defender or similar apps, the battery operation time could be extended by up to 20-30% if not more + Custom Roms/Kernels with battery saving settings and voila, we can have our batteries working at 150% of what plain Touchwhiz offers
Hi all XSP users
in just a few days, it will be 1 year since i own this phone. here i'm trying to give a sort of review-ish view and opinion about this phone
So without further ado, allow me to start (please forgive me for any inappropriate or ineligible english since its not my main language)
1 year ago i was looking for a replacement for my samsung galaxy gio which has become obsolete (hardware wise especially) because it cannot keep up with my demands. so at that time i was searching for a phone that meets my budget (cant go on a spending spree at that time) but still packs a can of whoop-ass.
at that time in my country was the time where 3 high spec phones launches samsung galaxy s4, sony xperia Z, and oppo find 5. all of them were top of the class. too bad they were all above my budget
other brand like HTC has no interesting line up for me, LG has some not bad spec phone but none to my liking.
Lo and behold i found out about the xperia SP about 2 weeks before the event. at the price it was offered, no other phone can match XSP specs, camera wise, processor wise (at that time of course). i bought the phone without hesitation.
my review
Size
for me this phone hits the sweet spot for size. although i can still held 5,5 inch phone without problem, but this phone is nice to grasp
screen size
screen size is adequate for me, although sometimes feel a little too small. too bad its not IPS
camera
one of the downfall for XSP for me. the camera quality is quite bad, my dads nokia x5 can even shot almost if not sometimes better images. though in my opinion since 4.3 update and using xperia M ported camera its a little bit better, i still wish it was better
processor
one of the best performance processor for midrange phone at that time and still is today IMO.
GPU
same, one of the best for playing games on a midrange phone
RAM
this is the ultimate donwfall for me in XSP. we were promoted with a 1GB RAM for XSP but how much did we get?? just a freakin' 768 ram.
thats downright false advertising. no amount of excuse and logic can justify a 1GB ram on spec sheet and only 768 in reality. this is what tied down our XSP from becoming the Beast that it could've and should've been.
although after 4.3 update the RAM increased to 848, it's still a long way from 1GB. even lenovo can put 900+MB on their 1GB RAM phone, so i am truly dissapointed at sony for this one.
My Experience
okay, hardware review aside, now im going to share how the phone feels for my daily usage
my XSP is LB, but i root it. i'll split this part to pre 4.3 and 4.3
PRE 4.3
the phone before the 4.3 update was so-so performance wise for me. mind you im a gamer, and understanding that our XSP have adreno 320 it should be handle all graphics intensive game, so i installed many heavy game. real boxing, real racing, asphalt 8, modern combat 4, NFS, chaos rings. all of that game should've played flawlessly if not for that darn RAM. you cant even browse and listen to walkman without the walkman suddenly stop. you gotta change the ram management and dalvik to help ease the RAM management, n i think that sucks. because if im not an xda member and dont root my phone, how else am i gonna improve XSP performance. there were slight regret buying this phone at that moment, but i cant change my phone again. no phone pique my interest yet again.
POST 4.3
post 4.3 update the phones performance got better a little bit since the increase in RAM but, performance wise its still so-so. if i have to give it a score before 4.3 was 7 and now it was 7.5. but luckily 4.3 update brings more than just bigger RAM it brings loads of things, from social camera, updated media apps, themes, so updating to 4.3 was like having a new phone all over again.
Conclusion
im still happy with this phone, eventhough theres major flaw (RAM)
so, will i still use this phone? YES
is it still one of the strongest budget mid range phone right now? YES (IMO, compared with other brand like samsung, LG, HTC, lenovo, OPPO)
will u still suggest this phone to friend of relatives? if they're not going to root it, NO, if they're going to root it then YES
well thats what i think about our beloved XSP
please share your opinion about this :good:
You don't need 500 MB of ram to run one game.
I love my SP,I recommend moving to a custom ROM to increase performance
Also,it's surprisingly strong. I dropped my phone on the asphalt and it slided few meters and it's fine (few scratches) !
darkkfruit said:
You don't need 500 MB of ram to run one game.
I love my SP,I recommend moving to a custom ROM to increase performance
Also,it's surprisingly strong. I dropped my phone on the asphalt and it slided few meters and it's fine (few scratches) !
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well u need it if you want to play real racing 3 with default graphics. had not for rr3 graphics apps and reducing it to low, that game was quite a disaster to play for more than 15 minutes.
no, im not thinking of using custom ROM. im not going to unlock my bootloader
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well u need it if you want to play real racing 3 with default graphics. had not for rr3 graphics apps and reducing it to low, that game was quite a disaster to play for more than 15 minutes.
no, im not thinking of using custom ROM. im not going to unlock my bootloader
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You don't need to unlock bootloader.:laugh:
You can find a list with locked bootloaders here.
Press CTRL F and type LB then search at the Stock Based roms. You will find 9 ROMs that do not require UBL
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You don't need to unlock bootloader.:laugh:
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You can find a list with locked bootloaders here.
Press CTRL F and type LB then search at the Stock Based roms. You will find 9 ROMs that do not require UBL
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oh yeah, forgot that there are ROMs that doesn't need unlocked bootloader. but still, I dont want to use custom ROM. its not that I lost hope for this phonr that I don't want to try custom ROM, its the opposite actually. I like this phone and its stock ROM. That's why I only do minor tweaks.
Still loving mine as well. The size, build, fit, look... It's perfect for me. I get lots of comments on it.
I can overlook the minor software quirks. I figure once Sony leaves it behind I'll move over to CM which will be nice n stable by that time!
cyapalmpos said:
Still loving mine as well. The size, build, fit, look... It's perfect for me. I get lots of comments on it.
I can overlook the minor software quirks. I figure once Sony leaves it behind I'll move over to CM which will be nice n stable by that time!
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Agreed, i may also do that when sony has abandoned our phone and no longer supports it. But right now im loving this phone the way it is with all the flaws. Still an excellent rocking phone :good:
Actually, the XSP does have 1Gb of RAM. The amount that you think missing is actually dedicated to the GPU
(kinda like a PC's Graphics card with its own chip and RAM, only here we have 2 in 1 chip, both CPU and GPU)
Other than that, a very reliable review, mate!
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Actually, the XSP does have 1Gb of RAM. The amount that you think missing is actually dedicated to the GPU
(kinda like a PC's Graphics card with its own chip and RAM, only here we have 2 in 1 chip, both CPU and GPU)
Other than that, a very reliable review, mate!
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so does that mean our GPU memory decreases now, since after 4.3 our device memory increase?
(btw not a sarcastic question, i really do want to know :good
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so does that mean our GPU memory decreases now, since after 4.3 our device memory increase?
(btw not a sarcastic question, i really do want to know :good
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Interesting question, maybe there is also some shared memory now. Or our GPU memory is decreased . Want to know .
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Interesting question, maybe there is also some shared memory now. Or our GPU memory is decreased . Want to know .
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This phone has 1024mb of ram but only 839mb is usable because the GPU uses that 185mb that we can't use
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Please tell me camera quality of SP? I'm gonna buy this tomorrow
I have 2 questions
1-how is the battery life after one year?
2-how often do you charge your phone
eranda84 said:
Please tell me camera quality of SP? I'm gonna buy this tomorrow
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Yeah, the camera is decent. Pictures tend to have a lot of noise. But outdoor picture can still look very beautiful though. If u buy this consider using 3rd party camera app, like camera 360 or lenovo super camera.
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I have 2 questions
1-how is the battery life after one year?
2-how often do you charge your phone
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1. Battery life is still not bad i think. Im an active user, i chat n play game. If i only chat, n email, n browsing, this phone can last 12+ hours. You can force it to 20+ hours too if u solely use it for chat. Mind you the provider im using has ****ty coverage so that probably factors.
2. I charge it every night. If i unplug at, say 6am, then probably i charge again at 10 or 11 pm. usually i play games at 8 or 9pm, before charge so i can reduce the battery percentage.
noahvt said:
This phone has 1024mb of ram but only 839mb is usable because the GPU uses that 185mb that we can't use
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thats what i want to know. like i said before 4.3 our memory device is 760, does that mean our GPU can use the other 240mb?
if it can does that mean our GPU memory actually decreases after 4.3, since our device memory got increase to 840mb?
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thats what i want to know. like i said before 4.3 our memory device is 760, does that mean our GPU can use the other 240mb?
if it can does that mean our GPU memory actually decreases after 4.3, since our device memory got increase to 840mb?
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They reserved more for GPU in Android 4.1.2 maybe due to Sony thinking it is vital like what they do on the Xperia Z. But after custom ROMs like CM shows that their RAM is north of 800MB, Sony releases more RAM for other purposes.
Nice post, guy! Since I bought XSP I just use it for listening to music, suffering the web, and I don't like to play game on mobile (PC too ). So I think it's actually good enough for my need.
I've been using XSP for almost 1 year too, now I think the RAM is getting not enough to use, maybe it's time to buy a new phone with 2G+ RAM.
quilipham said:
Nice post, guy! Since I bought XSP I just use it for listening to music, suffering the web, and I don't like to play game on mobile (PC too ). So I think it's actually good enough for my need.
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well if someday you decide to play games, just know that this phone can play almost any game flawlessly
TinaSA said:
I've been using XSP for almost 1 year too, now I think the RAM is getting not enough to use, maybe it's time to buy a new phone with 2G+ RAM.
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yeah, me too. been setting my eye for the new g3 or HTC e8. or maybe xperia z3 lol