I currently have a Nexus S which I have had for 2 years now. I'm considering the Nexus 4, was going for the S4 but this is half the price, and the iPhone 6 would be too far out and the iOS would not be to my liking.
I know I cannot really go wrong with the Nexus 4 - it's loved by every reviewer, and not because of its price - the price is only a bonus.
What are its major flaws? I have a few things I was curious about:
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. When your finger touches/swipes on the screen, does it behave like an iPhone 5 or the Galaxy S3/4/Note II devices? I personally like the sensitivity to your finger from the iPhone and Samsung's Galaxy devices. I don't have this in my current Nexus S but definitely would like it in my next phone.
- Battery life. Can it last 14-16 hours, with let's say, 2-3 hours of screen time or so?
- Camera. I've seen some sample pictures, was not too impressed, but as long as it's decent I'm fine.
- Headphone output? I heard the headphone output is lower than other devices from a video. Not sure if significant.
That's all for now. :good:
Just wait for the Nexus 5. Only 3-4 months away.
Tbh I've considered that, but it'll be announced in October, released in December, and if I want it with my carrier it'll probably hit in perhaps March/April of 2014, unless I choose to buy it from the Play Store.
I also heard it packs in a lot, and I think Google's going to price it high this time around. Either way, my current carrier is offering the N4 16GB for only $300 outright. So its price seems lower than market value, and it for some reason is hard for me to wait.
I upgraded from by Galaxy S (Same as the Nexus S) in Feb.
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. I would say the same, hard to notice the difference.
- Battery life. 5+ hrs on screen time with WiFi on (I dont have data so thats not in use). It was a definate improvement from Galaxy S.
- Camera. There is a mod floating around that allows you to get better quality pictures at the cost of a larger file size.
- Sound. NOTHING beat Galaxy S's sound chip. I was disappointed a bit here.
- Overall animation/fluidity/framerate. Stock android on N4, even the most overclocked Galaxy S with the most slimmed rom cannot come close to these speeds.
- Size. I like smaller phones that fit into my pocket easier. Galaxy S wins here but thats a personal choice. HD videos play exactly to scale on the N4, you just feel immersed.
- Physical features. You can't drop it, glass on both sides, bumpers/cases probably won't do anything. It's also heavier. No removable battery or SD card. I made the mistake of getting the 8GB, dont. Doesn't feel plasticky/cheap like the Galaxy S.
ROM support is very nice here, I think it's just as good as when Galaxy S was in it's prime.
You have to get it, try getting it through your provider ($300 in canada for the 16Gb via koodo whereas $366 shipped from goolge for the 8Gb)
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Tbh I've considered that, but it'll be announced in October, released in December, and if I want it with my carrier it'll probably hit in perhaps March/April of 2014, unless I choose to buy it from the Play Store.
I also heard it packs in a lot, and I think Google's going to price it high this time around. Either way, my current carrier is offering the N4 16GB for only $300 outright. So its price seems lower than market value, and it for some reason is hard for me to wait.
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Buying from Play Store is better anyway, at least for T Mobile USA.
What can the Nexus 4 do that your Nexus S can't? The Nexus 5 will be even better than the Nexus 4 on all scales. It is rumored to be based off the LG G2 which will have stereo speakers, bigger screen, improved camera, and much more. Maybe even launched with Key Lime Pie(?)
Just wait for it.
1. Low earpiece/mic
2. Camera speed slower than GN, need to be very steady for HDR
3. Storage can be challenging to manage, we need 32/64 nexus...
4. MTP is slow in general, and touchscreen goes crazy when charging from my PC
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1. Low earpiece/mic
2. Camera speed slower than GN, need to be very steady for HDR
3. Storage can be challenging to manage, we need 32/64 nexus...
4. MTP is slow in general, and touchscreen goes crazy when charging from my PC
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My touchscreen never goes crazy when charging from a PC.
i had a nexus s for long time, loved that thing. yes, it does have great sound, especially with voodoo, but the nexus s is merely a childs toy compared to the nexus 4. heck, the galaxy nexus was a large step from the nexus s. you will love the nexus 4. coming from two samsung phones in a row(ns and gnex), i first thought that not having a plastic back was the nexus 4s' major flaw, but now i dont mind
oh, and some photos, all hdr mode..
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Touch sensitivity is quite good for an android device similar to the nexus s, but the nexus 4 has lower touch sensitivity than it is capable of because of the touchscreen drivers, this problem has supposedly been fixed in the upcoming android 4.3 update but honestly touch response is very good you won't have a problem.
As for battery expect 4-5 hours sot on WiFi and 3-4 hours on 3g.
Photos in good lighting conditions are quite good but in low light its another story so if you take pictures in good light you'll be okay.
I find the sound output to be fairly reasonable its quite loud I don't think you'll have a problem with it unless you need to drive something huge with a high impedance, for normal headphones/earphones its loud enough.
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I upgraded from by Galaxy S (Same as the Nexus S) in Feb.
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. I would say the same, hard to notice the difference.
- Battery life. 5+ hrs on screen time with WiFi on (I dont have data so thats not in use). It was a definate improvement from Galaxy S.
- Camera. There is a mod floating around that allows you to get better quality pictures at the cost of a larger file size.
- Sound. NOTHING beat Galaxy S's sound chip. I was disappointed a bit here.
- Overall animation/fluidity/framerate. Stock android on N4, even the most overclocked Galaxy S with the most slimmed rom cannot come close to these speeds.
- Size. I like smaller phones that fit into my pocket easier. Galaxy S wins here but thats a personal choice. HD videos play exactly to scale on the N4, you just feel immersed.
- Physical features. You can't drop it, glass on both sides, bumpers/cases probably won't do anything. It's also heavier. No removable battery or SD card. I made the mistake of getting the 8GB, dont. Doesn't feel plasticky/cheap like the Galaxy S.
ROM support is very nice here, I think it's just as good as when Galaxy S was in it's prime.
You have to get it, try getting it through your provider ($300 in canada for the 16Gb via koodo whereas $366 shipped from goolge for the 8Gb)
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You can drop it with a bumper on and screen protectors. I dropped mine onto concrete and accidentally stepped on it. Lol its perfectly fine except for the scratch on my screen protector
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Gets extremely hot when gaming. I'm not sure whether this causes damage, but it makes me sweat on the device.
Both 3G and Wifi have connection issues. This may be fixed in software, but I'm not sure.
Speaker sound isn't as good as some other phones.
Being totally flat, it sits flush on a surface and the speaker is covered, muting notification sounds.
Being made of glass, there's twice as much breakable surface.
I upgraded my Nexus S for the N4 about the time it launched, so I know how slow it must be getting.
While its not perfect, I wouldn't trade it for anything on the market. It's a nexus device, which has the major benefit of being the first to be updated and having more stable ROMs, which you will miss from other devices.
The battery is not as good as I would have hoped for, but it will get me through the day as long as I'm not using it constantly. With mobile data on, I can get 2 hours of SOT (Screen on Time) if I wasn't playing games.
On the topic of the screen, I can tell you that the stock color calibration is extremely washed out. It's a good screen, they just botched the calibration. I remember looking at it for the first time and being really disappointed because of the faded look of colors like blue. This is something that is easily fixed by a non-stock kernel like Franco's Kernel, which is the one I use. The calibration I have right now looks amazing.
While the headphone output is quiet by the standards of most phones, I don't notice it unless I plug it into something like external speakers, or my car.
Also, it's probably worth noting that the 4.3 update that was leaked yesterday is supposed to drastically improve touch sensitivity.
and I would probably wait until at least the 24th of July on the off chance that Google announces lower pricing or a higher capacity version.
Touch Pretty darn smooth. Without a screen protector that is. But even with a sp you'll be able to swipe like no other. Response is top notch and definitely on par with new released phones. (Just my opinion)
Battery If you're a heavy user the battery might slack. If you're an addict, don't get this phone lol. But if you're able to balance data / running apps / screen time / etc. this phone will be perfect. (Choose the right rom & kernel, or just stay stock with a nice kernel)
Camera I don't use it that much but its alright, not the best out there. If you're some fancy photographer I doubt you'll be satisfied. But still takes pretty nice pictures as long as you take it right
Headphone I literally listen to music all day if I'm out of my house. No doubt the output is nice and clear, but it all depends on what type of headphones you're using.
This phone isn't a super computer. It lags when it needs to and produces slight flaws as you use it. But then again, what electronic doesn't
In the end, it all depends on the user's preferences. But if anything, I'd recommend waiting for the N5.
One of the most annoying things about the N4 is undoubtedly the fact that notifications etc cannot be heard when the phone lies flat with the screen up. Many calls have been missed due to this fact...
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My touchscreen never goes crazy when charging from a PC.
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When I touch in one spot it reacts like I hit another location.
I have to say, it is SLIPPY. It slips off everthing, even when i think its a flat surface!
OnlySkills said:
I currently have a Nexus S which I have had for 2 years now. I'm considering the Nexus 4, was going for the S4 but this is half the price, and the iPhone 6 would be too far out and the iOS would not be to my liking.
I know I cannot really go wrong with the Nexus 4 - it's loved by every reviewer, and not because of its price - the price is only a bonus.
What are its major flaws? I have a few things I was curious about:
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. When your finger touches/swipes on the screen, does it behave like an iPhone 5 or the Galaxy S3/4/Note II devices? I personally like the sensitivity to your finger from the iPhone and Samsung's Galaxy devices. I don't have this in my current Nexus S but definitely would like it in my next phone.
- Battery life. Can it last 14-16 hours, with let's say, 2-3 hours of screen time or so?
- Camera. I've seen some sample pictures, was not too impressed, but as long as it's decent I'm fine.
- Headphone output? I heard the headphone output is lower than other devices from a video. Not sure if significant.
That's all for now. :good:
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Do u run custom Roms/kernels on the nexus s?
If you want the same experience x100 then the nexus 4 is for u.
I went from a nexus s to a nexus 4 and I'm more than happy. Android + iOS smoothness.
Flaws:
The touchscreen unresponsiveness is not major (very soft touches don't register sometimes) and it is remedied with either a custom kernel in 4.2.2 or with the upcoming 4.3 (new touchscreen driver).
Screen colors are a bit washed, but with the same solutions as above screen is beautiful.
The phone is made of glass, so it is not as resilient to falls as the nexus s.
Some people experience notification delays on specific WiFi routers. Never had such problem myself.
The phone tends to get hot when in mobile network or under heavy use (because its glass). Can be solved with custom kernels, undervolting/underclocking (this is the most tweakable phone ever).
No issues with audio.
Camera is good. Not the best, but acceptable quality.
Battery life is typically between 4 to 6 hours screen on time, on WiFi, which is pretty good in my opinion.
P.s. this phone offers the smoothest android experience from every other phone I put my hands on.
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You can drop it with a bumper on and screen protectors. I dropped mine onto concrete and accidentally stepped on it. Lol its perfectly fine except for the scratch on my screen protector
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I dropped mine without bumper and just got a few scratches
btw is an awesome phone
I wouldn't wait for n5 as it's rumored to have a 5" screen which I feel is too large.
Here's a pic I took with the phone
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Overdose1986 said:
I dropped mine without bumper and just got a few scratches
btw is an awesome phone
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dropped my 4 times because it keeps slipping down the table only slight scratch on the back glass
only around 2-3 ft
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Hey guys,
It doesn't seem like a lot of us here is getting a Nexus. I just got one for myself, and it is fantastic, so I am just writing an opinion piece here for anyone that's looking for an upgrade
It is big
From 3.7" to 4.7" is quite a jump. After using the phone for just a few hours, the Vision seems to be tiny in my hand. By the way, my hand is not that big so I can barely manage to use it on one hand. They make the pattern lock screen smaller in ratio than normal, and the power button on the side, and it helps a little bit. Having to use the phone with two hands is annoying, but it should curb my cellphone use when I am driving,
and it is thin
I always feel that the Vision is too thick since the first time I pick it up. Feels like a brick that I can throw and kill people with. The Nexus, on the other hand, is really thin. In fact, it's thinner than the Vision's keyboard. Since the G2 has a concave back, which is nice for holding by the way, initially it feels like the Nexus's back is convex. Yet, holding the Nexus is not much more difficult, and the glass feels good.
Keyboard
My fear when I bought the Nexus was that I won't have a keyboard to use. I almost always use the hardware keyboard even though I type faster using the touch screen. I just like the mechanical feel. Even if I use the software keyboard, I use it in landscape mode because I want it to be spacious. However, the Nexus is so big that the software keyboard in portrait is still big and easy to type. It should be familiar with most people here because 4.2JB keyboard is almost the same as 4.0ICS.
About the Gesture Typing thing..... I don't use it. I don't like the notion of the computer learning what I want to type, telling me what I should type, suggesting me the word that I should use.... I decide what I input into my device.
Speed
It is fast. The Vision is almost unbearably slow for me these day. The Nexus is just fast and smooth. You'll love it.
Screen
The screen looks gorgeous. I don't know much about screen tech, but it looks much much much better than the Vision's. The glass is thinner so the screen appear closer to the user. It looks much more realistic. It is also darker, reflect less light so it appears as if the screen is almost the entire front face. Thinner side bezel also helps.
Battery
I have heard good things about the Nexus's battery, but those things haven't quite arrived on my phone yet. Granted, I haven't even charge it since I got it. After nearly 2 years of using the Vision with a lot of abuses, and with 4.0ICS on it, almost anything would have better battery anyways.
I am a heavy user, so the battery doesn't hold up to well. After 4 hours 20 minutes of usage, it went from 90% when I just got it to 17% ..... However, the screen was on for 2 hours, and I downloaded about 300MB of stuff via cell towers and 700MB of stuff via wifi. The phone also had to install quite a ton of stuff. So may be it will do better tomorrow. I'll update.
Update: I got through a day (12 hours) of medium use with 25% battery left. Not bad.
Camera
Haven't tried. I use a camera for shooting. But, in comparison with Vision's 4.0ICS patched camera, almost anything should be better anyways. I'll update this when I get a chance to shoot something.
4.2JB
It's great. Smooth (most of the part should be because of the quad-core processor with 2GB of RAM). Some new functions such as lock screen widget and day dreams. Lock screen widget selection is extremely limited (Gmail, SMS, Calendar, Soundsearch, Clock), we have better stuffs around. And the day dreams thing..... most Android phones don't even have a dock to begin with.
Space
On the 16GB model, you get 12GB for your stuff. The entire 16GB is ROM. So everything is in one place (which also means stuffs are faster than they are in SD card)
About that glass back
Someone said somewhere on the internet that the thing is also Gorilla Glass 2. Some other people said that it cracks within a day or so. Mine hasn't yet. The glittering dots is only visible when viewed with an angle. I don't know what is the deal with it.
And about that LTE thing
Edit: It is confirmed (youtube videos, news, etc.) that the Nexus 4 can work on LTE band IV (no root needed, just few touches). Rumors say that when T-Mobile has their LTE up and running, it will be LTE band IV.
I don't need LTE. At least a long as there a still a tiny cap for these expensive data plan.
However, HSPA+ on T-Mobile is not that slow either. I mentioned in my posts here and there that part of the reason internet feels slow just because the phone itself is slow. I also posted speedtest on the Vision a while back ago, 3-4Mbps something.
If HSPA+ is a highway, the Vision would be an old Honda minivan... towing a mobile home. It just cant utilize the full potential of the network. The Nexus, on the other hand, is a freaking 12-cyclinder Ferrari zipping around at max speed, only slows down because of traffic congestion.
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And the wacky things
There's an IMEI sticker on the back. The shipped plastic cover even has a cut out for that space. Even a box painted for it there..... I already bought a full-body screen protector, hopefully the Skinomi didn't rush to make these plastic without space for the IMEI sticker. Weird f***ing decision....
Also, no headphones included.
Things that I forgot
I'll add later if you can kindly remind me.
Nice one mate. Got the same plans but waiting on G to ship my damn fone. I have had 3 phones with physical keyboards but the capacitive screen on my DZ means the physical keyboard is still as new as the day I bought the phone.
I would have carried on using the DZ as it serves all my needs but that bit were it says "Loading" for like 20 secs and you cant do anything with the phone, is starting to get on my nerves.
Enjoy ur new phone.
Nice review. Using a Nexus 4 (or any other recent device), the G2 feels like at least 5 years old technology.
How's the battery life? I'm kinda interested in this phone..but the 16gb is putting me off.. :/ on single full charge,how long is the display up time?
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i wanted to get this phone but google and lg has really f'd this one up for countrys who do not have playstore...
Anyways nice review and i hope this phone will get here at all
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I am still staying with Desire Z it is useful enough.
Curious where you heard good things about the battery. Every review I've read has said the opposite, though I have read that compared to the gnex it's a lot better.
One of the main reasons people avoid this device I think. Bad/mediocre battery life + non removable battery. If you have access to a charger it's not so bad, but not all of us are that lucky.
I should note that battery reviews are to be taken with a grain of salt, though. I get 6h+ screen on time with the sgs3 (lte disabled) and a lot of tests I've seen clock it in at a lot lower.
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Curious where you heard good things about the battery. Every review I've read has said the opposite, though I have read that compared to the gnex it's a lot better.
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Well, that's what I heard. That it's better then the GNexus and people get 10-14 hours from it.
I got pictures this time
Agreed with blk jack.. how long is the screen on ? Kyaraofire? Do u use data or just wifi?
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How is the awake time so little??
It's not even awake when the screen is on most of the time..
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Nice review man. I'm also on a g2 right now used the s3 for a month and sold it for the nexus 4 but wasn't expecting to be backordered for 3 weeks. Ur definitely right about the g2 feeling like a tiny brick after using one of the newer bigger screen phones lol. In all honestly I still love my g2 but like someone mentioned I just can't take the slowness anymore. I'm so pumped for the nexus 4 I'm perfectly fine with 16gb and no lte as I doubt tmobile will have lte in toledo ohio for at least 2 years. And blk_jack are u gonna make a rom for nexus 4 please do!! I got freaking 5 HOURS OF ON SCREEN TIME with ur mimicry rom!!!
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I fall in love!!!
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Great review, cheers. I'm definitely grabbing one once they are in stock again.
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Nice review man. I'm also on a g2 right now used the s3 for a month and sold it for the nexus 4 but wasn't expecting to be backordered for 3 weeks. Ur definitely right about the g2 feeling like a tiny brick after using one of the newer bigger screen phones lol. In all honestly I still love my g2 but like someone mentioned I just can't take the slowness anymore. I'm so pumped for the nexus 4 I'm perfectly fine with 16gb and no lte as I doubt tmobile will have lte in toledo ohio for at least 2 years. And blk_jack are u gonna make a rom for nexus 4 please do!! I got freaking 5 HOURS OF ON SCREEN TIME with ur mimicry rom!!!
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The rom team I've been working with (SlimRoms) is currently working on establishing a 4.2 base with the nexus 4 as one of the model devices for that base. Right now a number of devices (21) run 4.1.2. With a large number of those if not all scheduled to get 4.2, along with the nexus 4.
TLDR; If you want a jellybean rom that I've been working on check out SlimBean.
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Thanks for the review. What really holds me from replacing my Desire Z is the keyboard... I can type without even looking at the keys, a bit like typing on a "real" keyboard (with two thumbs versus 10 fingers, though) on the Desire Z's, which (for me at least) just isn't possible on any touch screen keyboard I tried so far. Also the fn keys are really great, speeds up typing quite a lot because I don't have to long press some button, wait for the phone to recognize I have been long pressing, select the character I really wanted to type etc...
Oh, and for anyone really having speed issues with their DZ/G2: Did you clean install your ROM, or did you update without wiping? For me, this made the difference between a quite fast reacting phone and a unbearably sluggish one...
I received my N4 yesterday, it replaces my good old vision. I'm experiencing quiet the same things. Except the Keyboard. I LOVE the swiping thing. Already had swipeIT on my vision for quick texting with one thumb. The N4 Version is even better (perhaps it's a subjective feeling cause of the genereal speed of the device).
But I miss the HW keyboard while ssh'ing one of our servers. Would not be that bad, if the N4 had a trackbal.... the second thing I miss.
There is such a thing as a fast qwerty. HTC Doubleshot has been out for quite some time now. Made the switch back in February. Exceptional little phone.
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Thanks for this! Just what I was looking for I have a upgrade coming soon, Considering getting a N4.
Steven How said:
How's the battery life? I'm kinda interested in this phone..but the 16gb is putting me off.. :/ on single full charge,how long is the display up time?
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My contract ends in a couple of weeks, I really want an N4 as well but because its only 16GB and they are sold out atm, means I will probably get the Galaxy S3. Is there anything faster with an SD slot?
Wow. Very informative review. I have been waiting for the money to buy the 16GB, and this just makes me want it even more. Unfortunately, until G has the stock, wont be able to get anyways.
Thanks for the review! :good::good:
I have a chance to grab any of these phones for $99 on a $20 plan.
The HTC One S has a dual core snapdragon S4 processor running at 1.5ghz and I am a fan of HTC.
But its near impossible to find this phone at any retailer
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if your a fan of htc, go for it.
One S is still fairly newer so expect more updates than the GS2
GS2 has an micro SD card slot ( One S doesn't so limited internal memory for One S )
Both phones are good, go for what feels best for you.
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HTC one S is what you will get.
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Thanks for the reply and for the reminder about no sdcard! Does anyone know which display is better?
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Thanks for the reply and for the reminder about no sdcard! Does anyone know which display is better?
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one s shuld have a better display and resoloution.. But s2's super amoled plus screen is not bad either
As a previous owner of 3 HTC smartphones (2 of them flagships), and a current owner of an S2, I'd advise you to stay away from them and go for the S2. HTCs are plagued with issues, both hardware and software. Also, expandable storage is a bonus and the option to add a bigger battery to the S2 is great. The only advantage of the One S is the higher resolution of the screen but don't be fooled, the One S had an amoled screen with a pen-tile matrix while the S2 has a full RGB matrix. Even though on paper the HTC's resolution is better, there is not a dramatic difference in real life.
Get one s instead
Feels better in hand, not so slippy thought as s2.
Touchwiz is deadly boring thing when compared to sense 4.
Even on ics 4.0.4 one s feels little more fluid in graphics and more responsive than s2 on leaked official jellybean.
Have not tried one s running custom roms like cm10, but s2 gives me little dissapointment on custom rooms, most of them are broken due lack of full hardware acc/ project butter support.
Hovewer if you need micro sd support, extended replaceable battery, standart slot for sim cards, S2 may be good choice over one s too
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The S4 1,5 Ghz Krait processor in One S is paired in performance with SIII's quad, being net supperior to SII (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C661Tdorbl0 )
One S S4 has already received JB update with Sense 4+, SII still waiting.
BUT,
SII has a better screen (IMHO), has removable battery cover and a card slot of max 32 Gb. This means that you can buy a second battery for extra "stamina", or replace it if the original one gives signs of old age (prolonging the life of an S2) and extand the memory to a total of 12 GB (internal usable) + 32 GB = 44 GB :good:. Last, but not least, SII has an overall better community support as well as other small things such as accessories (you'll always easily find accessories for S2 with much more alternatives...hands-free, cases, bumpers, screen protectors, battery covers, batteries, etc).
To sum up:
If you upgrade your phone for a long period (one year or so) I would recomand SII. If you plan to change the phone in the next months, than you can go with HTC.
This is my opinion, take it as it is.
I have SGS2 and my gf HTC one S and I like both phones a lot but htc is way smoother
So if price is the same htc all the way
AW: Should I get the SGS2 or the HTC One S?
I would not get the One S, like all HTC phones there are many manufacturing errors, my Desire HD died after 6 months of usage, also HTC Support is ****, my battery Cover broke after a week and they promised me to send a new one, but it never arived.
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Okay, let me brush you through the disadvantages or limitations of the S2:
- Regardless of the ROM you use, there will always be some lag when you open the contacts app for the first time (or whenever it gets killed)
- There is a delay of 1 second when you wake the device from standby.
- Certain people (like me), have issues with screen quality (black crush, bad color temperature, yellow tint, greenish greys, linen looking texture on grey backgrounds at low brightness).
-The S2's screen is 32bit, but Android doesn't use that color depth... So you will see color banding on almost every gradient background. (if you don't know what color banding is, you should google it...) I think the Mali 400 GPU also has something to do with this. Somebody correct me on this one.
- The S2 uses a Yamaha audio chip.This is a downgrade from its predecessor's Wolfson audio chip. The Yamaha chip is outright horrid. Forget about punchy bass and that wow factor. If you enable bass boost or make any EQ modification which increases bass, you will hear horrible distortion and speaker clipping. But loudspeaker performance is great.
- The camera modules (only rear camera) on certain S2's (like mine) are defective. There is stuttering while recording videos which have dark/light lighting (extremes).
Also, there is a pink spot in the center of all photos which are having grey or white colors. (This particular issue is faced by each and every S2 regardless of the camera module, if people deny it... they just aren't as observant.
- The battery life of the S2 is mediocre (not for me). Users complain that the S2 doesn't last them even 24 hours. (I'm in a different boat for this one)
Although the battery drains super fast while gaming or leaving the display on auto brightness.
However, you can always get a larger capacity battery which will make your S2 thicker. And uglier. And heavier. OK you got it.
- You will not receive updates on time, but you'll at least get updates. Due to the pending lawsuit with Apple, Samsung is silently disabling/changing certain features. (I shall not talk about these here, as its a vast and debatable topic)
Some of these issues that I have mentioned here can be fixed or camouflaged by either getting a replacement S2 or by rooting and flashing custom mods or ROMs.
Bottom line: There are several advantages of the S2 which the other users will tell you about, but I feel that the S2 shouldn't be on your list. Either get the One S or get something even better that has no or lesser issues and will last for a while.
Cheers.
EDIT:- I forgot to tell you about these issues:
- eMMc brick-bug issue, which means that if you root and use clockworkmod recovery to wipe the device, it will never wake up again. (i haven't had this issue)
- The screen burn-in issue which is there on all AMOLED phones.
- There is no notification LED.
- There is a delay when you press the home button. (can be fixed)
That's all.
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Also the S2 has got a replaceable battery.
Odp: Should I get the SGS2 or the HTC One S?
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Higher resolution, beautiful industrial design, faster processor (significantly so) and most importantly Samsung have nothing to do with it. Why would you even consider the SII over the One S?
Ive since moved from the SII to greener pastures but owning the SII was one of the most frustrating expereicnes ive had with any item of technology (bar its predecessor, the Wave) in recent years .
Did not expect this many replies. The community that supports this phone is amazing. So a lot of posts tell me S2 is the way to go.
I really don't need a massive amount of storage (all my Top Gear episodes and Pimp my Ride series are on my 320GB PS3 Slim) but the pain of downloading a show, say a formula 1 race onto a computer then transferring the huge file on the One S is tedious then if you download the formula 1 race directly onto the sdcard then play it off the phone.
Screen size is not an issue, the pentile matrix on the One S doesn't really matter to me because I'm writing this on a device that has a VGA resolution. Higher density also is not a big deal, and since the screen is basically the same-even in size, it doesn't matter.
I do listen to music and I can tell that beats audio is a huge waste of money, and it's showing up everywhere, from laptops to a 2013 Chrysler 300C! I don't know what HTC was smoking when they decided to dump money into things that don't make any difference. I never knew about the audio chip set. I always thought that it was part of the motherboard! Shows how little I know about these things.
Camera is not an issue since I am no means a photographer and have no interest of that subject. I don't mind the SGS2's pink camera syndrome. Also, I did read in a review of the HTC One S that the display was better calibrated than the normal SAMOLED display.
I do miss the notification LED from my beloved BlackBerry 8520 and the HTC Wildfire S. It is not nesscary because the two capacitive buttons cam light up when I get a notification using root access and an app from the play store. And the notification LED on the HTC One S is barely noticeable.
So far with HTC I had no quality control issues, my sister who now has the wildfire s is careless to say the least and drops it everywhere. But it still works fine! I always get cases for everything, and I don't make any device of mine to fall 5 stories and expect it to work.
I want stock 4.0 and up look. I don't like manufacturer overlays like Sense or Touchwiz. So people tell me to root and recovery and cyanogenmod. But as with any device, all cyanogenmod ROMS have issues. I am not familiar with the issues on cm10 for this device, but development for cm10.1 for the htc one s has no working Camera whatsoever.
I do not want to upgrade again for around 2-3 years so as someone said, the SGS2 has more development than the One S but as long as there is cyanogenmod or paranoid android I will be happy. The one s seems future proof since HTC didn't release any info of its next flagship phones but you never know.
Again, thank all the posters for the advice on what to get.
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I also forgot I am in no means Bear Grylls meang someone who takes their phone with them for a 2 month trip climbing Mount Everest and expects their phone to last for the trip (exaggeration lol )
I do not need a replaceable battery, however having that feature is nice. I remember the LG Rumour2 and LG Xenon had the same battery and I always swapped them out when I needed more juice. Funny story: back in the day I was moving and didn't have access to power for the most part, so I used the car battery to charge but I had to keep the engine running so the battery doesn't die and the alternator does all the work. Leaving the engine idiling made it overheat since the car was pretty old (1990 Honda accord) and we had to wait at our old house until the engine cooled with the last bits from the old house. Sitting down for 2 hours is not fun. So after that I always try to charge my battery on all my devices so I don't need to worry.
I am a previous owner of HTC Sensation XE, had to give it up, my s2's screen has tint but service guys won't replace it, Sensation had same screen and I'd prefer that over S2's, rest, S2 has lots of issues, that guy mentioned Em in detail ^^
One S is the way to go.
Edit: One S will have less buggy CM Roms and Sense isn't that bad
Edit 2: Just checked One S forum, Go for S2 if you want stock Android , I'm leaving it soon though.
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I think a good device for your would be the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Right now, you can get one for relatively cheap, from 200-260 the device is a steal. You won't be needing to worry about it becoming obsolete for another 2 years, as it is still supported by Google and has a huge developer base community. And the best thing is...... AOSP ROMS will always be bug free and stable, due to sources from Google. It comes with 16 GB of storage like the One S, but has a replaceable battery. Did I also forget to mention that the Nexus has an HD screen? I understand that it to is AMOLED, but it doesn't seem to have as many issues as the Galaxy S2. I used to have a G- Nexus, but sold it due to a display issue. Don't get me wrong, I bought the device second hand, so don't think that all Nexus phones have issues. In my short time with the Nexus, it beats the S2 or performs equally in general use, to gaming, to browsing due to properly implemented Project Butter. If I hadn't got my S2 for 150 brand new, I would have bought another Nexus. Hope this helps!
I don't like the Galaxy Nexus because I'm outside for long periods of time on weekdays and my friend complained about the screen being too dark in sunlight. The One s and galaxy s2 screen is brighter.
Also, I cannot get that phone for $99 on a $20 plan.
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I got the new Nexus 7 at Walmart and also picked up the old Nexus in perfect condition from Craigslist for $85. Been spending time working with both side-by-side all morning. My thoughts...
1. The new one seems marginally quicker at some things like swiping between screens in the launcher. That to me is the most noticeable difference, and it's not that big of a change. I am thinking the better graphic acceleration contributes here.
2. I can't tell much difference in the screens. I know there is more resolution, but with my bifocals, I am just fine with the old screen. Saturation on the new screen seems a teeny bit better, but there is also a slight buish tint. I expected to be blown away by the new screen. I'm not.
3. Call me crazy, but I prefer the feel in the hand of the old version. The more rounded edges and the back feel better to me. Can't tell much of a difference in weight, but the new one definitely feels thinner, and the thinness cuts into my palm a bit more. I don't like the thinner bezels at all. And the new one is slightly taller, feels kind of awkwardly shaped.
4. The new tablet takes significantly longer to charge.
5. I couldn't care less about the front camera. Will never use it.
6. Perhaps the deal-killer for me is that the new version has some kind of touchscreen problem. The keyboard gives double-presses, and single touches on buttons (like "accept" in the Play Store) too often requires multiple tries. Anybody else noticing this? Maybe mine is bad?
All-in-all, it looks like the new Nexus 7 has provided a nice opportunity to get the old version cheap for me. After trying both, I don't see a compelling reason to stay with the new one. Just my honest assessment. Your mileage may vary.
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having seen 2 different N7 2013 units already, i'd say the screen is a lottery just like it was with the 1st model. yellow tint, contrast setting and scroll blur will vary on each one. btw i never understood the reviews that go into some major details about the screen, like anandtech for example. don't get me wrong, their reviews are amazing but those screen technicalities are not worth anything seeing how the review unit will be different to any actual unit on the store shelves.
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I got the new Nexus 7 at Walmart and also picked up the old Nexus in perfect condition from Craigslist for $85. Been spending time working with both side-by-side all morning. My thoughts...
1. The new one seems marginally quicker at some things like swiping between screens in the launcher. That to me is the most noticeable difference, and it's not that big of a change. I am thinking the better graphic acceleration contributes here.
2. I can't tell much difference in the screens. I know there is more resolution, but with my bifocals, I am just fine with the old screen. Saturation on the new screen seems a teeny bit better, but there is also a slight buish tint. I expected to be blown away by the new screen. I'm not.
3. Call me crazy, but I prefer the feel in the hand of the old version. The more rounded edges and the back feel better to me. Can't tell much of a difference in weight, but the new one definitely feels thinner, and the thinness cuts into my palm a bit more. I don't like the thinner bezels at all. And the new one is slightly taller, feels kind of awkwardly shaped.
4. The new tablet takes significantly longer to charge.
5. I couldn't care less about the front camera. Will never use it.
6. Perhaps the deal-killer for me is that the new version has some kind of touchscreen problem. The keyboard gives double-presses, and single touches on buttons (like "accept" in the Play Store) too often requires multiple tries. Anybody else noticing this? Maybe mine is bad?
All-in-all, it looks like the new Nexus 7 has provided a nice opportunity to get the old version cheap for me. After trying both, I don't see a compelling reason to stay with the new one. Just my honest assessment. Your mileage may vary.
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1. Do you play graphics/processor intensive games? The new processor crushes the old one. I don't recommend the upgrade if smoother swiping between screens is all you're looking for.
2. Again, if you are content with the old resolution... stick with that. Clearly, the majority of reviewers and myself personally are in love with the screen. When I use my GS3 now, I cringe.
3. That's great that you like the old thickness. Sounds like an issue with your expectations.... Not the device itself.
4. You have a point here.
5. You should have known this prior to buying the device.... How can you be underwhelmed by a feature you already knew you didn't want...
6. Never had this happen on the two 32 g models I've used.
TL;DR You're doing it wrong. Stop hating on the device because your expectations are off... Doesn't sound like what you need out of a tablet demands a new Nexus 7... you can't blame the tablet for that.
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Well the reason it takes longer to charge is the old nexus 7 came with a 2 amp charger and the new one only has a 1.3 amp
I for one LOVE the new screen, if you can't see the difference then your in the minority.
An $85 older Nexus 7 is a great value. Just keep it and return the New Nexus, if you do think it worth the premium to you.
I love everything about the New Nexus 7. It is what I expected from Google/Asus and they delivered. What else do you want them to do at the $229 price point? Google has put in a nice 1080p display, underclocked S600 processor, 2gig of ram, 5ghz wifi and the memory subsystem has been approved over the original. My only real criticism is the lack of SD card slot but that is true for any Google device. This is not the perfect tablet and people have to put their expectations in check.
Can anyone compare another $229 tablet to this one? Even the $400 Note 8 gets beat buy this and I'm a Note 2 owner.
I mean for all that are reading this and don't have one yet the truth is this. Should you upgrade? Hell yes!!!! Now when is the question to you I sold my 16gb gen1 for 170 a week ago came with cases so to spend 40 bucks to get the new one is nothing. Even if its 60 dollars its worth it. Think about how much apple fanboys spend to upgrade every year. The new nexus is better in every way possible.
Now if you happy with the old I understand most people are probably using this for reading stuff so the first one is fine. I just never really liked the first design wise
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I still have yet to see the new Nexus 7. I hadn't used my OG Nexus for probably 2 months and, now that I am again, I'm realizing how "good enough" it is. I'm going to have to see the new one to really convince myself to drop $270 on the 32gb.
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its a good upgrade, still a bit of stagger here and there. they should of went with the snapdragon 600 instead of the s4.
This gen is deff better then last gen i wasnt really liking how it felt on the first one this one feels and looks alot better
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its a good upgrade, still a bit of stagger here and there. they should of went with the snapdragon 600 instead of the s4.
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We already know its not just an S4 pro. Basically a binned and under clocked 600
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I'm not saying the new one isn't better... Just that it isn't $150 better (to me).
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It's underwhelming when you compare it against the high expectations of the first Nexus 7.
The original Nexus 7 made an absolute joke of all the other mfg's 7"-8" tablets at their existing price point. The ONLY reason you'd buy something other than a Nexus 7 was if you wanted micro sd card support - otherwise the specs were no contest. And why should they? Google was working on razor thin margins for the hardware compared to mfgs.
If you go to a box store and look at the new N7, and then look at all the other 7" tablets, everything else is still a joke and it's far from underwhelming. Google stated that they were making a profit on this one, but my guess is that a big part of this is being able to leverage Motorola's buying power/agreements to reduce individual component cost. Best buy is making a 3.5% margin on the new nexus 7 (8-9.4USD). - it barely makes sense to take up the floor space to sell the damn things and I'd wager that most other box retailers are not doing much better.
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It'd be genius if someone from BB knew that staples was running the tablet coupon of $30 off and launched early to cause staples to take a loss on their inventory ($~20 per unit).
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I'm not saying the new one isn't better... Just that it isn't $150 better (to me).
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I can understand that, especially after you mentioned picking up the 2012 Nexus 7 for $85 off Craig's list.
People here are gadget geeks and and spec-mongers, always wanting the latest and greatest (me included). Some of its get a little defensive if someone seen to put down our device of choice.
No I am not underwhelmed overall, but I am by the lack of optimization in the games I care about... The funny thing is the old N7 smokes this devices in both GTA3 and Vice City... go ahead, try and max out the settings, I dare any of you. Now I know this device is significantly more powerful but the bottom line is real world performance and I believe the OP raises a valid point: there isn't a significant difference.
Source: I've owned an N4 since launch (and now an N7.2) and had a friend's OG N7 for a couple weeks when they were out of town.
Yeah maybe the upgrade isn't worth an extra $150 over the 1st gen you just got, but it is still an upgrade and we want the latest and so most people are willing to pay the premium for that.
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This should be consolidated into a single "whine" thread instead of cluttering the forum.
Personally my first gen doesn't come close to touching my new one. Everything is so much faster, smoother and instant. Thanks to the extra RAM it doesn't get crippled when running lots of apps or updating. Can't believe anyone could use both devices and not come away thinking the new one is an upgrade and a half.
Oh, and the screen is flipping fantastic, my GS3 takes a second to get used to when switching directly between the two.
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This should be consolidated into a single "whine" thread instead of cluttering the forum.
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Yeah, a shame to clutter a general discussion forum with discussion.
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Well if chime, by the time your ready for an upgrade the og n7 will be worth peanuts
Moto X Cons/Pros IMO
Hi, this can be a base for new Moto X users coming from other smartphones.
Pros
1. Moto X has one of the smoothest and fastest Android experience you'll have with any smartphone today.
If you're coming from a non-nexus smartphone, you'll definitely feel that. Everything just works in Moto X. It's the smartphone with the nearest experience of an iPhone in terms of speed and smoothness.
2. Moto X feels great in hand. It has the perfect size for a smartphone.
3. Screen size is perfect, you can reach every corner without a hassle.
Although some users might feel the difference coming from a bigger screen, you'll definately get used to it in no time.
4. Good materials, it feels like you're holding a really well made product. Not just plastic stuff.
5. Twist to fast access to camera is great.
I'm still getting used to it, but accessing the camera without even touching the screen is very handy. I thought it would be too much of a hassle to do that movement every time, but it turns out you get used to it very fast, and that's pretty easy.
6. Touchless Control.
Although it's almost useless here in Brazil, I'll include that because is it's really useful for the main languages that it includes. I still use it to showoff though. :victory:
7. The speaker is one of the best I've listened so far.
It's one of the loudest, its quality is pretty good. Basses are good too.
8. Battery life is superb.
It lasts for your entire day and even a little bit more. Compared to my last phone, a S3, I can really feel the difference.
9. Battery charges really fast.
Within 2 hours or so, my Moto X charges from 0% to 100% with stock wall charger. Considering its battery time, it's an amazingly fast charge: 2 hours charge for a 24h+ usage. My S3 used to charge in 5h+
10. Fast updates.
This is not something that will certainly happen, but it seems Motorola is committed to bring us Android OS updates and improvements updates really quickly. Although it has not been released for my Moto X here in Brazil yet, it's been released for the Moto X faster than the Nexus devices. Let's hope they keep it like that for some years, and not just because it's the momentum smartphone.
11. Active Notifications.
The best thing invented after the wheel, don't have to say anything about this.
Cons
1. Onscreen buttons takes too much space.
Although Moto X screen size is perfect, its virtual buttons takes a lot of that space, and you might feel a big hit when coming from a 4.8/5" phone that has its entire dedicated screen.
2. Camera is terrible.
Coming from a S3, I definitely felt a big hit here. Camera takes a big time to shoot photos; it takes too long to focus; it takes pics with different tonality every time, it's even hard to shoot 2 similar photos from 2 different angles. Below is an example of that.
Camera software is not the best aswell. We don't have night mode, quality/px choice, effects, and so on.
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3. Touchless Control doesn't work everywhere.
For example in Brazil, not all the commands are available and it's just useful to call for someone and check weather predictions. Despite using it to call for someone, we don't get audio feedback for any of the commands.
4. Too thin for 2 hands usage?
That's a real real personal thought, but although Moto X has the perfect size for a one-hand feel, I'm really having a hard time typing in the keyboard and I wouldn't blame if it was a little wider. The phone is thinner than the S3, that I used to rest both hands and type, and wider than a smartphone that we can rest one hand and use the other sidewards.
But I'm really sure it's something I'll get used to within some time.
5. No sdcard slot.
I'm yet to see if this will be really a down vote to me on Moto X, but at least in my old S3, I had to use a 16gb sdcard to store some extra musics and pics. The default 16gb was not sufficient.
Well, that's it. It's a really great phone and it was for sure a great improvement coming from a S3. I do miss S3's camera and physical buttons, but despite that and the listed above, there's nothing else I can blame this phone for.
Feel free to add your own opinions, cons and pros.
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
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Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
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Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.
I've added 1 item to the con and 1 to the pros that I forgot to mention.
Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
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I used a demo at the store (one had kitkat and one didn't), and the kitkat one was SO much better. I think this camera really competes with the other flagships now.
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Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.
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He means Kitkat i think.
@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
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barondebxl said:
@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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I'm not sure if the S3 boot loader is locked aswell, but we had a lot more hacks, mods and roms to use/test on the S3 than o the Moto X.
EVOSerb said:
Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
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It was my GF actually. I shall ask to her how she cooked that
Please do ask. Now just to find the one for my self that will cook like that LOL.
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Tottaly agree! Mostly in the voice commands, in Brasil is not useful like in the US
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Thanks OP for sharing your experience. I'd just like to elaborate on the design.
I don't really quite know how to summarize my idea, but the emphasis on user experience is so great, it's borderline criminal, and it's easily the most understated feature of the Moto X. The texture of the back feels extremely wonderful to hold that doesn't feel like cheap plastic nor cold hard aluminium. The contours (?) of the phone is curved in such a way that feels absolutely comfortable - I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola took the palm/hand profiles of many people and designed the back with it. In conjunction with that, the buttons are positioned well enough to allow me to reach for them whenever I need it. And that dent on the back cover! My finger now gravitates to that point to get a solid grab on the phone. _Finally_ I have a phone that doesn't have to depend on aluminium for that premium feel, or worse still, give UX design a middle finger and design a pile of manure (*coughsamsungcough*) for use.
I was really pleasantly surprised to find out for myself how good the speaker was. It's loud, but distortion is hardly noticeable at maximum volume. (Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I suppose I get a bit too excited. heh) The camera's been improving steadily, thankfully, but it could use more repairs. I would appreciate it very much if I could take photos faster - the idea of twist-to-camera is kinda wasted on a slow-responding camera like this.
I have friends using the Nexus 5 beside me, and in all honesty I don't feel like I'm missing out on much. Then again, I paid a bloody premium for the phone . But seriously speaking, no regrets. At all. If I had to make the decision all over again, I'd still shoot for the Moto X. Never mind that there's no support for LTE in Malaysia or Singapore (I alternate between these two countries most frequently), or that the SD card slot is missing. I have not been so contented with a purchase in a very, very long time.
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
sravanz said:
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.
sravanz said:
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.
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I believe a member is working on making it work on his in the accessories section.
What are the chances of a QI case being released? I would be all for that.
Cannot believe incipio decided to make a powermat charging case... WHO USES POWERMAT!?
My biggest and only real complaint about the Moto X is the camera. It does not feel like it matches up to even some 2011 phone cameras.
Nice Article.
I'm loving my Moto X 'Argentina Edition' (no root yet ).
On the 'Cons 4' section I swipe a lot, and never again hold my phoine with 2 hands
While driving I can text with the mic, not sure on portuguese, but spanish works great!
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is so much more sensitive in 4.4. I'm using the nexus 5 gel and my phone is constantly beeping and googling my last few words. Kinda strange
I'm still on 4.2.2 but I would have to say the camera, the smaller screen size, and the color saturation of the screen.
I bought a nexus 5 earlier this month and switch between the two phones all the time. {Google apps sync everything} and those would be my main complaints. Obviously the screen size is completely subjective, but I much prefer the n5 screen. I do like the battery life, but I usually have a charger at work and at home, and both phones seem to give me more than acceptable battery life.
The biggest complaint I have is the lack of accessories, cases and screen protectors for it.
I also would like our Canadian carriers to hurry up with the 4.4 updates.
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Got my device yesterday, played with it most of the day. Overall very impressed!
Build quality feels good, got around 7hrs screen on time out of the first charge with variety of browsing, music, app installing etc etc Screen is very good with punchy contrast (much better than my Nexus 4) Loud speaker is plenty loud enough (again, louder than Nexus 4 IMO), vibration is strong so no missed notifications when silent. Only made one call on it so far, quality seemed fine, and no complaints on the other end about not being able to hear me clearly. Performance is great as expected, no slow downs when browsing and such.
There are plenty of reviews on the camera over in the Z1 section, so without repeating what's already been said: avoid the "superior auto" mode and spend a few seconds configuring the manual mode for the shot you want to take, and you get some great results. The superior mode seems to suffer particularly badly in poor light as it drives the ISO up sky high and produces horrible grainy photos.
Only negative comment I have is the screen protection, or lack-thereof. The screen its self is "scratch resistant" but there is a cheapy plastic film on top which I grazed within minutes, I'm told this can't be replaced or removed without losing the warranty. Sony do include a screen protector of sort that you can apply on top of this in the box, unfortunately its one of the god-awful 10 for £2 type plastic things. I'd suggest buyers budget an extra £20 for a good quality film or tempered glass protector to go on top. This is for me the biggest disappointment with this phone; having had my Nexus 4 "naked" most of its life, and suffering no damage, I'm very frustrated that my new £450 phone has to be covered with a cheapy plastic sheet to protect the screen - not good.
Any questions fire away and I'll do my best to answer.
Thank for review. What about led notification? Can you share photo for it?
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dtosun said:
Thank for review. What about led notification? Can you share photo for it?
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LED notification is nice and bright, I've set up "light flow lite" to customize the colours / blink rate etc and all is well. I've tried to take a quick photo here, but it doesn't really do it justice. (excuse the terrible screen protector fitting, I threw it on in a bit of a huff. Waiting on a better one to arrive)
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Side by side with Nexus 4
XDA home page vs Nexus 4. (Note nexus 4 is using SlimRom with custom colour profiles etc. Have its set quite cold ad my preference)
does it feel better in hand than nexus 4? it looks like nexus 4 is almost the same size as z1c... I thought z1c will be more of a compact phone.
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does it feel better in hand than nexus 4? it looks like nexus 4 is almost the same size as z1c... I thought z1c will be more of a compact phone.
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It has to. It's much more narrow and the screen is definitely smaller.
Thank you for your insightful input! One thing so important to me is screen and software responsiveness and fluidity...and you're the perfect person to tell me how fluid it feels compared to the nexus 4 and I will be eagerly waiting your response!
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how is the charging time? is it quick charge enabled?
Hi, can you also please put the z1 compact on the top of your nexus? It makes me easier to recognize the size difference
Answers to a few questions:
Charge time from almost flat seemed to be in the region of 2.5 hours, which is pretty good by my reckoning.
It feels a lot smaller than it looks. The reduction in width makes the most difference, and after 2 days using the Z1c the Nexus 4 feels chunky to me now. I don't have my Nexus to hand for size comparison photo now I'm afraid, but laying the Xperia over the top of the Nexus 4 allows you to see 2-3mm on all 4 sides. Next to no difference in weight, through the Sony feels more dense/solid to me - Gives a premium feel.
The phone operation is very fluid and smooth, I went through numerous custom roms and kernels on the Nexus 4 to get the kind of smoothness that the xperia offers right out of the box. Launching the camera app is very quick: Maybe 2 seconds from sleep (via the shortcut button), and near instant from the menu shortcut. Shot-to-shot time is very impressive too - This is one thing where the N4 was always poor in my opinion.
I haven't missed the screen size at all, others may I guess, but personally I prefer being able to operate the whole screen comfortably with one hand!
Thanks great to know the xperia ui doesn't slow the experience
Headphone sound quality
Hi Guys,
Some more feedback on my experiences with the phone.
I'm noticing improved WiFi reception compared to my Nexus 4, My desk in the office is a bit of a black spot normally. My laptop frequently disconnects from the wireless, the Nexus hardly ever managed to connect, the Z1c seems to obtain a connection here and I'm streaming music over it without dropouts :victory:
On a related note, The sound quality through the headphones is very good too. I'm using Logitech Ultimate ears 200, previously had fauxsound on the Nexus 4 for improved volume, and whilst this did allow my N4 to go louder than the Z1c does, the sound quality is definitely better here, stereo separation in particular seems to be better.
Mine arrived in the mail this morning, and I'm impressed so far
Still setting it up mind, but it's the perfect size for my hands (pretty much the same size as an iPhone 5 with a case on)
In comparison with my current Android phone (HTC One X), although in physical size it's only a little smaller to look at, it feels much smaller in the hand, and more usable (no over-stretching of the thumb, reaching for the on button, etc...)
And as for the responsiveness, it's genuinely on par with the iPhone 5 too!
I'm glad I took the gamble to pre-order! :good:
(Just need to set-up the SmartWatch that came with it next...)
Any impression about the ringer volume? I've got a Z, and I had to use a mod (replaced the Fusion3 file) in order not to lose notifications and calls.
quite surprised to see they did not include headphones.. I guess they gotta sell some bluetooth headsets..
Initial impressions coming from an Samsung Galaxy S2 with kitkat.. I miss the settings button And don't understand why they could not put the buttons on the empty field below the screen instead of using the screen .. :\
Laying the Z1c on top of my sgs2 is pretty much same size.. although the Z1c is a little thicker than the SGS2
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quite surprised to see they did not include headphones.. I guess they gotta sell some bluetooth headsets.
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if you care about audio quality, you'll already own decent headphones/iems and have absolutely zero use for any included iems which would stay wrapped up and un-used and be a waste of sony's dosh. much rather sony spent the money they will save by not bundling cheapo iems on a phones build quality etc
Mine from O2 came with earphones And surprisingly they are actually quite good but the rubber buds slide out the my ears.
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if you care about audio quality, you'll already own decent headphones/iems and have absolutely zero use for any included iems which would stay wrapped up and un-used and be a waste of sony's dosh. much rather sony spent the money they will save by not bundling cheapo iems on a phones build quality etc
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i dont care about included audio piece.. got my own AKG k450, pretty good stuff
Would you guys recommend this over a Nexus 5?
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Very important question for me!
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Would you guys recommend this over a Nexus 5?
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I don't own a Z1 compact (yet) but I had two Nexus 5 devices - both sent back to get a refund because Nexus 5 has some serious issues with its microphone. The audio recording is terrible during video footage and a lot of users complain about crappy quality during phonecalls (on the receiving end).
Here's a link: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/0hvTK4eMVGk
First impressions too
To share my first impressions: I received mine yesterday, and I spent the afternoon playing setting up the phone .
The size and weight are about the same as my previous phone (a HTC sensation).it fits well in my hand and well in my pocket too.
The built seem of quality, the flap are easy enough to manoeuver (and allow to plug cable easily), and seems built to last. Overall it gives an impression of quality. I don’t have any issue with the plastic protection screen.
On the software side, everything run fast, and smooth. I have been really impressed by the 4G: it seems merely as fast as at home. All the connections are running well (no issue with gsm, wifi, Bluetooth, nfc). Phone calls are clear, and the micro works greatly according to the “test” I made.
The only drawbacks I found are linked with my experience on my previous phones, and are softwares linked (it might be possible to solve them, but I have search yet to do so): I found the keys of the keyboard to be a bit too small; The intelligent dialer is not as good as I wish (start to look in the phone number before looking at name); I am missing the HTC clock which was also indicating the weather.
If you have any question, feel free!
Franck