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Just picked up a new nexus s (new years eve) from carphonewarehouse in brighton and it has an SLCD. Is this common in uk as i thought it was just happening in russia etc..????
I have an AMOLED Desire so i can see a massive difference and about to return it. Any benefit in SLCD???
Wring section but I don't know any.pros over super amoled.
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Really? Damn that sucks. The screen is probably my favorite thing about this phone.
SLCD? What a ripoff. Why aren't they using Super Amoled???
Yeh a little peeved as the demo one I tested was AMOLED but the one in the box wasnt. Grrrr
super amolded = the best, period.
Uh how can I check what screen mine has?
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Uh how can I check what screen mine has?
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Look at it.
The major difference is when looking at the image with black background.
As SAMOLED has unlimited contrast, black is totally black.
only the russian nexus s models have slcd. can't find the link to the article, but I remember reading about this.
edit : here's the article http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-s...d-in-russia-instead-of-super-amoled-20101207/
OMG!!!!!!!! noooooooo, i hate it when the manufacture process changes half way through the release of a product (example HTC Desire)
i'm glad our batch in USA has SAMOLED.... but what will happen after if we need to send in our for repair? are we going to lose the SAMOLED to be replaced with a Sony LCD ? like they did with the Desire?
ewww....
i think i'd rather go back to a Tmobile Vibrant if that ever happens
Well slcd has it benefits. First you get regular RGB pixels instead of ugly Pentile. Second LCD's are not prone to "burn in" and shioter life of amoled. There are toms of threads about samoled burn in and rapid dimness.
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hahaha. i cant believe this. what a total f*** up.
It couldn't be. My friend just purchase one for me in carphonewarehouse. If it is slcd, I'd rather her return it. Confirm?
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Well slcd has it benefits. First you get regular RGB pixels instead of ugly Pentile.
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the only reason i purchased this phone and SGS was to get the SAMOLED screen
if it was not for it, there are tons of better choices for an Android phone
there is simply nothing else better that can compare to the crispy clear quality of the SAMOLED
and most importantly it works under bright sunlight
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if it was not for it, there are tons of better choices for an Android phone
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You think so?
They can't write Super AMOLED on the specs and sell a LCD, can you add some pictures of the screen?
I'd be surprised if you have a slcd screen! When the phone is off does your screen have a dark blue(ish) tinge to it? It does look different from a simple amoled screen, did some one tell you from carphone warehouse that it was scld?
This is very unlikely, surely?
As someone has said, the SAMOLED screen is one of the major selling points. If it didn't have it, I'd probably stick with my Desire HD!
It's almost like swapping in a 600mhz CPU and selling it.
Are you sure it is SLCD?
Do we have a really solid way to check this?
Probably by using image with different shades of black? Then turn the contrast to max or something.
Post comparison photo with your HTC Desire please ...
manook said:
Just picked up a new nexus s (new years eve) from carphonewarehouse in brighton and it has an SLCD. Is this common in uk as i thought it was just happening in russia etc..????
I have an AMOLED Desire so i can see a massive difference and about to return it. Any benefit in SLCD???
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Strong opinion follows:
Wow, shocked.
The Galaxy SIII uses a pentile matrix, while the SII does not. The HTC One X does not either. The presence of a pentile matrix is something that most people dislike, for those who are new to the terms. It refers to a for lack of a better term, pixelated effect/screen door/slightly blurry/piezzo electric type of effect. People have a hard time describing it, but know it when they see it.
The HTC One X, a direct competitor to the S3, is receiving heaps of praise for its screen. In fact, many sites are calling it the nicest screen that they have ever seen on a smartphone (Anandtech and many other reputable sites).
I have seen the HTC One X, and it is without a doubt the nicest screen that I have ever seen as well. The iPhone 4/4S is STILL equally good, but it's just that it's 3.5 inches.
Anyway, I can not believe that Samsung would seemingly go backwards. In choosing the pentile matrix, which even before today had clearly been positioned as a less expensive screen, Samsung has sealed the One X as the phone to get for smartphone afficionados. Maybe not for the general public, but in my informal testing, everyone has noticed the pentile matrix.
As you can tell, I really loathe the pentile matrix, even at 1280x720p. I've used an iPhone before, so maybe I am spoiled, but I don't think it's too demanding to ask for a nice screen if you're willing to pay for a flagship device. After all, these devices are 90% screen. It's what you stare at and what you touch all day. I've also felt that the Samsung screens are too vibrant (not a big deal to me), but also too dim. As such, they probably could get better battery life purely b/c the max nits in the SII was only 300 nits vs 500 nits for the iphone 4 and one x.
Maybe Samsung has something else up its sleeve, but the S3 is to me no longer the phone to get. The One X with the Snapdragon 4 is definitely the way to go.
For Samsung's sake I hope that they did some market research regarding the effect of a pentile display on their flagship phone before deciding to cut corners.
I was all over the Galaxy Nexus until I saw the pentile. Waited for the S3 b/c surely that would have a premium display.
Sorry, self edit: there are more important things in life, but not as far as smartphones go :>
well, I also hoped for non pentile screen but it seems that right now it's not possible to make HD screens with non-pentile, if it was possible to make HD screens with real RGB then they would do that... and the One X use Tegra 3 not S4.
if you have used pentile before like on the original SGS1 or the Galaxy Nexus, (old HTC Desire, or several Nokia phones) and you liked it, then you'll love it
if you did not like it back then, you will not like it now, as simple as that.
I was hooked since SGS1
its it possible to notice the difference between non pentile and pentile screens at 720p?
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its it possible to notice the difference between non pentile and pentile screens at 720p?
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it's a lot less noticeable, due the smaller concentration of pixels
but people with sensitive eyes for Green / Blue will still get annoyed by the pentile screen purplish, bluish or greenish hue, which i don't see it unless i put the screen 45 degree to the left or to the right
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its it possible to notice the difference between non pentile and pentile screens at 720p?
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My opinion:
Definitely noticeable by everyone. Without question.
What varies is how much the effect bothers you, but will you see it, yes. Even on a 720p display.
If they made two identical versions of the S3, one with and one without the pentile, and cost was identical, service plan was identical, and let people see both before buying, my thinking is that 10 out of 10 people would choose the S3 without a pentile matrix.
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its it possible to notice the difference between non pentile and pentile screens at 720p?
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yes it is at a close distance. it sounds all good in spec but at rendering videos i don't know why Samsung always gets it wrong with pentile display. every time its supercurio who we have to turn to due to Samsung's incompitance.
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Wow, shocked.
The Galaxy SIII uses a pentile matrix, while the SII does not.
The HTC One X, which is receiving heaps of praise, especially for its screen being the nicest many have ever seen on a smartphone (according to Anandtech and many other reputable sites), does not use a pentile matrix screen (not even the same screen tech).
I have seen the HTC One X, and it is without a doubt the nicest screen that I have ever seen as well. The iPhone 4/4S is STILL equally good, but it's just that it's 3.5 inches.
Anyway, I can not believe that Samsung would seemingly go backwards. In choosing the pentile matrix, which even before today had clearly been positioned as a less expensive screen, Samsung has sealed the One X as the phone to get for smartphone afficionados. Maybe not for the general public, but in my informal testing, everyone has noticed the pentile matrix.
As you can tell, I really loathe the pentile matrix, even at 1280x720p. I've used an iPhone before, so maybe I am spoiled, but I don't think it's too demanding to ask for a nice screen if you're willing to pay for a flagship device. After all, these devices are 90% screen. It's what you stare at and what you touch all day. I've also felt that the Samsung screens are too vibrant (not a big deal to me), but also too dim. As such, they probably could get better battery life purely b/c the max nits in the SII was only 300 nits vs 500 nits for the iphone 4 and one x.
Maybe Samsung has something else up its sleeve, but the S3 is to me no longer the phone to get. The One X with the Snapdragon 4 is definitely the way to go.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.
Deal breaker. Check in galaxy note forum for pentile screen issues, banding & black clipping/distortion in videos.
I.switched to one x from note especially for black clipping in videos.
For info, Note is also using pentile hd screen.
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why not wait for an official review/comparison before judging by ourselves?
Major killer point for the SGS3 IMO. Not impressed with Samusng. So much hype for this phone. And it disappoints.
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Major killer point for the SGS3 IMO. Not impressed with Samusng. So much hype for this phone. And it disappoints.
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Its not Samsung who dissapoint its the press and fans who do that for themselves. Same thing happens with Apple for each iPhone. This phone will sell in the millions regardless, its the iPhone of the Android world now.
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i think if the One X hade a removable batterie and a SD Card it would be a SGS Killer
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... and the One X use Tegra 3 not S4.
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But the One XL uses S4 Just forgot to say it
This is a super phone. The Note had a great screen. If that's what you call pentile, then it's a great screen
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My opinion:
Definitely noticeable by everyone. Without question.
What varies is how much the effect bothers you, but will you see it, yes. Even on a 720p display.
If they made two identical versions of the S3, one with and one without the pentile, and cost was identical, service plan was identical, and let people see both before buying, my thinking is that 10 out of 10 people would choose the S3 without a pentile matrix.
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I don't notice it.
But some do, they say once you see it, you can't unsee it, but since I don't, it won't be a factor in my decision.
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The features of Samsungs touchwiz is what is going to set it apart. I played with a one x today and was sold it is an extremely solid phone, however im gonna wait and see what the AT&T gs3 is like before buying. I also want a phone with a large dev support/community.
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at resolution as high as these, they're not that noticeable
Pixel density is too high
I'm guessing super amoled HD plus is still too expensive..the galaxy tab 7.7 has it..
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I'm guessing super amoled HD plus is still too expensive..the galaxy tab 7.7 has it..
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Yes Its on my Tab 7.7
By far the nicest screen I have seen on any device.
Probably is too expensive.
Anyone else disappointed with the vibrancy of the colours on the Nexus 7? My phone is a Galaxy S II running CM9 with colour temperature calibration done via Fluxi kernel, and side by side comparisons of the Play Store splash page, as an example, really shame the Nexus 7. I know sAMOLED can account for certain differences but I was wondering if anyone knew of any way to colour calibrate the Nexus' screen?
I agree. The colors are a bit washed out and not calibrated correctly. Hopefully an update soon will fix this or at least have an option on the setting menu.
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For me, setting brightness manually made a big difference. Out of box, it was flat and dull and boring. Comparing colors to my Viewsonic IPS monitor, seem pretty close.
comparing amoled to ips is silly. amoled is much better.
my galaxy nexus looks better but i don't plan to spend much time holding them side by side.
You can't get an IPS screen to have the same color vibrancy as a Super AMOLED.
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How does it compare with the ipad?
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comparing amoled to ips is silly. amoled is much better.
my galaxy nexus looks better but i don't plan to spend much time holding them side by side.
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Much better at what? Because the One X display is better than my S3
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I agree, the screen makes video look really washed out, especially compared to the One X or good quality PC screens. I hope there will be a software to mitigate this issue.
Yes compare to my galaxy note... its wash out. But is very sharp no complaint for $200 vs $700 galaxy note
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Currently a Galaxy Nexus user since June (Galaxy Note before that), and I'm wondering if there are any plus points for the Galaxy Nexus apart from the removable battery?
I think there are other threads like this in the Q&A might want to look there . I cant think of any other plus points for the GNex though.
Well you might have gotten used to the AMOLED displays. Nexus 4 IPS LCD display isn't pentile and slightly denser so it is technically better but can't match the true blacks of AMOLED.
Most reviews say it is. But don't upgrade for the sake of upgrading. If you are perfectly happy stay (you are still guaranteed one more OS update), but if you find yourself cursing the device, check out the N4.
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Well you might have gotten used to the AMOLED displays. Nexus 4 IPS LCD display isn't pentile and slightly denser so it is technically better but can't match the true blacks of AMOLED.
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From Techradar:
"When you're looking at icons on a black background (like in the app drawer), you can't even see the black, if that makes sense. It is so deep, that icons just float."
Win.
The pogo pin-based desktop and car docks are a big plus for the Galaxy Nexus, IMHO.
The GN is a piece of turd compared to the N4...sell it, it would net you around $150 on Gazzell, add the difference and get the new thing.
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Well you might have gotten used to the AMOLED displays. Nexus 4 IPS LCD display isn't pentile and slightly denser so it is technically better but can't match the true blacks of AMOLED.
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AMOLED isn't true black.
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Sold my gnex for 275 on craigslist. Cant wait for the nexus 4!
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Well you might have gotten used to the AMOLED displays. Nexus 4 IPS LCD display isn't pentile and slightly denser so it is technically better but can't match the true blacks of AMOLED.
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I've compared the AMOLED displays to IPS, the One X's to be precise, and IPS LCD looks sooo much better. The AMOLED displays make everything look slightly blue, so when I had anything white opened, it always looked blue.
Not gonna sell the GNex but will get a nexus 4 as soon as it's out.
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Yea the whites and blacks on the IPS display are just about unmatched. On my gnex even with custom kernels the display was still jacked up looking. Stock was like a puke yellow and a good kernel was like a light bluish white. Never could get it white and or black. The s3 color reproduction was a lot better. But the IPS display still kills it in natural looking colors and the closest color reproduction to real life colors. Everything just pops
Yes, it is an upgrade!
Mainly, the hardware: internals, screen, etc... but over all, the build quality. I'm never buying a Samsung phone again. That maybe a little rash, but, that is how I feel at the moment.
worth the upgrade for me.. i bought the gnex in june also, but just sold it for $300. I lost about $70 bucks for the upgrade, but im sure it'll be well worth it
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Sold my gnex for 275 on craigslist. Cant wait for the nexus 4!
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I'm giving my GNex to my sister as soon as I get my N4.
Finally getting her away from that iPhone. She's stoked by the way. :laugh:
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I'm giving my GNex to my sister as soon as I get my N4.
Finally getting her away from that iPhone. She's stoked by the way. :laugh:
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Nice! Get her away from that poison lol
hello should move from a galaxy nexus to a nexus4 considering only the question of the display? I care that the display is really powerful, so I ask, it's worth it?
Hell yeah its worth it first day screen looks washed out but its getting better and better samething with nexus 7. Viewing angle on sunlight is just amazing even on 30% brightness whereas on gnex its all dark . black is pure so black oh did I say this phone is faster than the light ?
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That is mostly opinion. They are about the same resolution , although the LCD has more accurate colors, so if you want that super lushness, you might want to stick with the galaxy nexus
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So I yesterday I compared a display of Galaxy Nexus and that of the new iPhone5. Unfortunately the iPhone5 has a screen with much higher detail. I want to know if it's worth it to go from a new galaxy nexus nexus 4, that is, has a screen that comes close in quality to that of the new iPhone5?
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So I yesterday I compared a display of Galaxy Nexus and that of the new iPhone5. Unfortunately the iPhone5 has a screen with much higher detail. I want to know if it's worth it to go from a new galaxy nexus nexus 4, that is, has a screen that comes close in quality to that of the new iPhone5?
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If you fancy that much the iPhone 5 you shouldnt be looking here in XDA mate
Iphone 5: 1136 x 640 pixels, 326 ppi
Nexus 4: 1280 x 768 pixels, ~318 ppi
Yes also Galaxy nexus has a 318 PPI but it's a pentile panel and details of screen is poor respect to other device.
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many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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nic85 said:
many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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That's old news. Now it's that of HTC's Droid DNA.
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many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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Now its the Droid DNA
Honestly I wish it had OLED, pentile or not. Im not very impressed by the blacks on this phone, and once it gets dark the screen doesnt look nearly as good as AMOLED, I would say my old low res galaxy s pentile AMOLED looks better after the sun goes down. Its also too desaturated for me, which is a frequent review complaint, theres no punch.
Most people seem to prefer IPS screens over pentile AMOLED but the blacks suck so bad in comparison I'll take deep blacks over jaggy text that you cant really see unless its right up to your face.
imo: blacks>>>>>>>>>every other aspect of a display
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That is mostly opinion. They are about the same resolution , although the LCD has more accurate colors, so if you want that super lushness, you might want to stick with the galaxy nexus
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the only benefits of PenTile matrix AMOLED screens:
- black is extremely black
- maybe save an unnoticeable amount of battery
the only benefits of RGB matrix AMOLED screens:
- black is extremely black
- colours are vibrant in a cartoony way
- you dont notice pixelation, texts are crisp
- maybe save an unnoticeable amount of battery
benefits of RGB matrix LCD IPS screens:
- extreme viewing angles
- vibrant and realistic colours
- white is white
- you dont notice pixelation, texts are crisp
- colours dont fade
and since a lot of AMOLED uses PenTile, your options are between a ****ty amoled or an amazing LCD
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many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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I've got the HOX and N4. I think the One x still has the best display - the colours are better and it just looks so fluid with the way the glass is curved. The N4 isn't far off though.
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My opinion if you want...
HD AMOLED screens are amazing... I was very disappointed to learn Nexus 4 was not using it this time.
If you did not own one before you might not miss it... but the contrast is sooooo much better then the kinda blacks you get on an LCD
Plus the technology is amazing... organic material that emits vivid colored light... vs... just white light shining trough color filters like LCD... this is a very old concept.
And you can only notice pentile under a microscope with HD screens
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My opinion if you want...
HD AMOLED screens are amazing... I was very disappointed to learn Nexus 4 was not using it this time.
If you did not own one before you might not miss it... but the contrast is sooooo much better then the kinda blacks you get on an LCD
Plus the technology is amazing... organic material that emits vivid colored light... vs... just white light shining trough color filters like LCD... this is a very old concept.
And you can only notice pentile under a microscope with HD screens
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I know that everyone has different taste in screens, so you really have to look at it to decide which you like best.
I haven't seen the Nexus 4 yet, but I compared the Optimus G to the Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, and I thought that the Optimus G looked just as good as the One X. I couldn't see a difference in colors. Icons looked exactly the same to me. I compared the Chome icon on both and the saturation looked the same. I personally can't stand HD AMOLED, and I can notice pentile clearly on the GS3 from the normal distance I hold the phone away from my face and I find it very distracting.
I find the colors on the Optimus G very pleasing while the HD AMOLED in the GS3 looks dirty to me. The colors are too oversaturated and whites don't look right. I can't stand looking at the GS3 screen. I was very excited when I heard that the Nexus 4 was moving to IPS. I wish they could make an OLED with the same color saturation as IPS but the blacks of the OLED.
So, for anyone trying to decide on the Nexus 4, my advise is to go to the store and look at both the Optimus G and Galaxy S3 and decide for yourself.
i, for some reason hate amoled (pentile) screens. i cant stand the screen burn, over pixelated edges, and the "ink spot" effect it has on super dark colors. ill pick dull-ish blacks over those issues, and i dont like everything to be dark colored so it defeats the purpose. thats just my 2 cents though. lol
thats why i got so excited about the nexus 4 screen
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i, for some reason hate amoled (pentile) screens. i cant stand the screen burn, over pixelated edges, and the "ink spot" effect it has on super dark colors. ill pick dull-ish blacks over those issues, and i dont like everything to be dark colored so it defeats the purpose. thats just my 2 cents though. lol
thats why i got so excited about the nexus 4 screen
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I accept the horrible camera and cheap plasticky build of my Gnex, but I freaking hate whit all my passion this Crappy Amoled display, so the IPS LCD display is a welcome update.
PS: I HATE AMOLED DISPLAYS...
SKYNET
Should move not you display are is better who greater
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Think of it LG makes some kickass TVs. Also Samsung, I don't know why the just don't go that way. It costs 150+ to get a Gnex screen/digitizer. It costs 75 or so for a iPhone LCD screen? Waaaa
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Should move not you display are is better who greater
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How you liking it chief!? I can't wait till Monday for mine!
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LucasMac said:
I know that everyone has different taste in screens, so you really have to look at it to decide which you like best.
I haven't seen the Nexus 4 yet, but I compared the Optimus G to the Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, and I thought that the Optimus G looked just as good as the One X. I couldn't see a difference in colors. Icons looked exactly the same to me. I compared the Chome icon on both and the saturation looked the same. I personally can't stand HD AMOLED, and I can notice pentile clearly on the GS3 from the normal distance I hold the phone away from my face and I find it very distracting.
I find the colors on the Optimus G very pleasing while the HD AMOLED in the GS3 looks dirty to me. The colors are too oversaturated and whites don't look right. I can't stand looking at the GS3 screen. I was very excited when I heard that the Nexus 4 was moving to IPS. I wish they could make an OLED with the same color saturation as IPS but the blacks of the OLED.
So, for anyone trying to decide on the Nexus 4, my advise is to go to the store and look at both the Optimus G and Galaxy S3 and decide for yourself.
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are you sure? according with many blog and users the one X should have a bit more saturated colors and better viewing angles
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