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sure everyone loves the super super-amoled display of our sgs's.
but even in casual usage- not looking under microscope,
i can make out the dots making up every font. small fonts look bad.
and in landscape its even more noticeable.
in the android running on my topaz , i cant make out the dots.
so is it the bigger screen, with poor dpi or an issue specific to amoled?
is dithering off , if so any way to turn it on?
or is it just me/ should i get my eyes etc tested?
4-inches of nexus 1 res = that.
afaik the black dots are a physical limitation so you can't really software fix that
personally i don't have a problem with it, they're noticeable only on very small fonts (its ok on "only pretty damn small" haha)
Unfortunately text is not the Galaxy S' screen's strong point, because it uses a PenTile layout - rather than having red, green and blue (RGB) subpixels to make up each pixel, it has an alternating pattern of RG and BG subpixels, using interpolation to provide proper colours over the full screen resolution. However, while this is fine for graphics, it's not as crisp for text. I was concerned about this before getting the phone; it's livable with though, as I usually hold the phone just far enough away that I don't notice.
There's nothing that can be done about it, because it's hardware, and it's a tradeoff for having the Super AMOLED screen. The Nexus One and Desire, which have (until recently, anyway) AMOLED screens, also use a PenTile matrix.
Mithent said:
Unfortunately text is not the Galaxy S' screen's strong point, because it uses a PenTile layout - rather than having red, green and blue (RGB) subpixels to make up each pixel, it has an alternating pattern of RG and BG subpixels, using interpolation to provide proper colours over the full screen resolution. However, while this is fine for graphics, it's not as crisp for text. I was concerned about this before getting the phone; it's livable with though, as I usually hold the phone just far enough away that I don't notice.
There's nothing that can be done about it, because it's hardware, and it's a tradeoff for having the Super AMOLED screen. The Nexus One and Desire, which have (until recently, anyway) AMOLED screens, also use a PenTile matrix.
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Thanks that was very informative.
Had a quick question I was hoping some Nexus S owners could help with, to do with the screen's pixel layout.
Pretty much every LCD display I've seen has its pixels lined up in neat horizontal and vertical rows (basically in a '+' configuration). Looking at the AMOLED screens on the HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy S i9000, they both look like their screens have been rotated 45 degress, so that the pixels line up on an 'X'. This means that straight horizontal or vertical lines actually look jagged on an AMOLED phone (as opposed to diagonal lines looking jagged on normal LCDs).
Having seen the Nexus S in videos and photos, I think it may have a more normal, LCD-type '+' pixel grid. Can somebody take a look at their screen (or better yet, take some up-close photos of straight horizontal/vertical lines) and tell us what they see?
The only way you'll see anything jagged looking is if you're looking at your phone under a microscope.
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The only way you'll see anything jagged looking is if you're looking at your phone under a microscope.
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Agreed, and even then it's not like when you are looking at a G2 or MyTouch 4g screen you just cry yourself to sleep. I think they are still pretty good screens, but SAMOLED is like the switch from a tube TV to that nice Plasma, never gonna be the same.
What the OP is noticing is the different pixel arrangement that samsung decided to use for these SAMOLED panels... which is RGBG instead of the traditional RGB on most LCDs. It's also responsible for the type of 'jagged' lines, which in effect is not really jagged, it's just that there's more space between red and blue subpixels than on a traditional RGB layout so you see more gaps for certain colors.
I notice the fuzzyness that the original poster is talking about when looking at the Samsung Vibrant. Text just was not as sharp on the SAMOLED screen on the vibrant (and other amoled screens) as on LCD screens on the G2 or Mytouch4g. This is due to the subpixel layout of the SAMOLED screen. Some people notice it more than others.
The Nexus S screen does seem to be sharper than the Vibrant, at least on the demo I played with.
the OP is right. and the Nexus S screen is the same as Galaxy S in that matters. its not a +. more like X.
however, i find it really hard to notice it unless you get very close to the screen. you have a good eye man.
Yup, the mesh/screen effect you notice over the pixels are from their different pixel arrangements, called pen-tile arrangement. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family
The galaxy S phones, and the nexus [1S] use this pen tile arrangement. I think the only amoled display I've personally seen without the pen-time arrangement, is the nokia N8's, though I'm sure there are more..
Guys have a look at these pictures.
I am just posting some more screen comparisons in the following order---
1) Super Amoled Plus vs Super Amoled
2) Super Amoled Plus vs Super Clear LCD
3) Super Amoled Plus vs Retina Display
Have a look at these pictures,screen comparsion to see how much brighter & crisp is super amoled plus
Continuing in the same order
You Guys can find more information Here
all of the above just reinforces why i like SAMOLED/+ more than SLCD and/or Retina displays
in this case Retina has the worse colour and density
Wow... Retina looks really blurred...
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Wow... Retina looks really blurred...
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nooo... zoom it, click on it, it looks clear, it's just pale and colours are not vivid
What are they like in direct sunlight though? I know the retina is very good...
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nooo... zoom it, click on it, it looks clear, it's just pale and colours are not vivid
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I did. I guess you can call me blind then.
Hard to say which is the most color accurate; the iphone/SGS definitely have colder color temperatures, but the SGS2 looks a bit warm (the reds don't look very deep). Also there is major red crushing in the parrot picture.
interestingly you havent posted the parrot picture from the same article. for some reason the super amoled plus has a distinct lack of detail for the feathers on the parrots back. there is no shadowing inbetween the feathers.
vs super amoled
http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_sgs_6b.jpg
vs super lcd
http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_inc_6b.jpg
vs retina
http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_iphone_6b.jpg
any reason for the difference between all the other photos and this specific one? maybe it doesnt deal with red as well?
is not just red observe the blue and yellow, it's dull on the retina
as for the SAMOLED it's the vivid colours that over take the edges (shadow)
is just like when you set a TV to very bright colours settings
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is not just red observe the blue and yellow, it's dull on the retina
as for the SAMOLED it's the vivid colours that over take the edges (shadow)
is just like when you set a TV to very bright colours settings
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Granted the iPhone's colors are off due to about only 65% of Gamut, you won't really notice it given the excellent contrast. So it's not that things aren't sharp because sharpness comes with high contrast.
AMOLED completely oversaturates.
Anyone do photography? Take your photo and take Saturation and do a +40 on it in Adobe Lightroom. That's AMOLED. Of course photos side by side will show it look nice, and the other one will be washed out, but which is more accurate for looking at photos or videos? Shrug
Its possible to adjust on Samsung Galaxy with CM7(2.3.3)
So i belive it will work on SGS2 in time..
I post this from my Nokia N900 so i hope you can se the picture..
Sorry for my bad english
The SGS 2 is just wayyyyy over contrasted and oversaturated, they need to tone it down otherwise you lose a lot of detail like what you see in the parrot picture.
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The SGS 2 is just wayyyyy over contrasted and oversaturated, they need to tone it down otherwise you lose a lot of detail like what you see in the parrot picture.
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You guys are having some trouble understanding whats going on, so im gonna attempt to explain it.
The reason you see the parrot picture "oversaturated" and shadows not showing in properly is becaus oled technology surpasses easelly the native 1250:1 contrast ratio of a lcd display so youre trying to see the over lcd quality on an lcd, which frankly does little sense as your lcd screen will bottleneck the real quality of oled, furthermore the camera quality can also be questioned aswell regarding this matter.
It sounds stupid for ppl who dont know much about image displays, but for those who do know the diff between oled and lcd it makes a decent ammount of sense.
The "Overbrightness and oversaturation" you see there are simply the oled subpixels doing their job, lightning up, the camera & the lcd screen cannot display it as properly as a backlighted washed out lcd.
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You guys are having some trouble understanding whats going on, so im gonna attempt to explain it.
The reason you see the parrot picture "oversaturated" and shadows not showing in properly is becaus oled technology surpasses easelly the native 1250:1 contrast ratio of a lcd display so youre trying to see the over lcd quality on an lcd, which frankly does little sense as your lcd screen will bottleneck the real quality of oled, furthermore the camera quality can also be questioned aswell regarding this matter.
It sounds stupid for ppl who dont know much about image displays, but for those who do know the diff between oled and lcd it makes a decent ammount of sense.
The "Overbrightness and oversaturation" you see there are simply the oled subpixels doing their job, lightning up, the camera & the lcd screen cannot display it as properly as a backlighted washed out lcd.
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You know, just because you make a post with the attitude of knowing what you're talking about doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
It's oversaturated, the end.
Original photo:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...I4/JkMo1hEry40/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+01.jpg
Over-saturated photo:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...JA/vCIwlukAyvg/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+02.jpg
Wow, it looks suprisingly the same as what the SGS 2 display is doing, I wonder why?!
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You know, just because you make a post with the attitude of knowing what you're talking about doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
It's oversaturated, the end.
Original photo:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...I4/JkMo1hEry40/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+01.jpg
Over-saturated photo:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...JA/vCIwlukAyvg/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+02.jpg
Wow, it looks suprisingly the same as what the SGS 2 display is doing, I wonder why?!
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Im not trying to show off or anything, but what you are saying is false, "the end".
This is OLED technology, there is no such thing as "oversaturation" this doesnt use a backlight, the blue, green and red pixels are made of light, LIGHT, they are not complemented by the lcd backlight as a tn or ips panel does... so colors will look alot more realistic with bigger contrast ratio, with pure blacks and whites.
The camera quality is clearly average at best compared to a proper professional HD Cam corder, so it couldnt properly interpret the oled panel as its made purely of light, its like taking a snapshot of the sun, youre gonna miss details around it.
And then theres your screen, i take it ure viewing it in a LCD screen instead of an oled right? u cant compare lcd vs oled viewed on a lcd screen because that will downgrade the quality of oled to an lcd, no brainer here.
I dont understand why youre feeling so down, i bet you live in the marketing world where LCD is awzome and beats everything around... the fact is tough, lcd is by far the worst technology for color reproduction and pixel response time.
So i dont really get what youre trying to say here, see an oled screen in real life then talk ok?
The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
Its like saying psone has better specs than ps3...
Oh and for your comment with the 2 pictures:
It is more than clear that the second image has been manipulated in a graphis software with more saturation, as the colors get pixelated and edges jaggy.
There is a difference between contrast ratio and saturation but from your comment you still cant understand what it rly is...
For once, how can u see oled pure black (pixel turned off) on a screen that to display the picture it has to have the back light always on...
How do u expect a pure red color when you have a white bulb backlight? the same goes for blue and green...
You will never be able to understand oled quality from an average snapshot displayed on a lcd screen, if u cant understand something as basic as that then, please, remember that saying: "It's better to keep quiet and..."
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Im not trying to show off or anything, but what you are saying is false, the end.
This is OLED technology, there is no such thing as "oversaturation" this doesnt use a backlight, the blue, green and red pixels are made of light, LIGHT, they are not complemented by the lcd backlight as a tn or ips panel does... so colors will look alot more realistic with bigger contrast ratio, with pure blacks and whites.
The camera quality is clearly average at best compared to a proper professional HD Cam corder, so it couldnt properly interpret the oled panel as its made purely of light, its like taking a snapshot of the sun, youre gonna miss details around it.
And then theres your screen, i take it ure viewing it in a LCD screen instead of an oled right? u cant compare lcd vs oled viewed on a lcd screen because that will downgrade the quality of oled to an lcd, no brainer here.
I dont understand why youre feeling so down, i bet you live in the marketing world where LCD is awzome and beats everything around... the fact is tough, lcd is by far the worst technology for color reproduction and pixel response time.
So i dont really get what youre trying to say here, see an oled screen in real life then talk ok?
The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
Its like saying psone has better specs than ps3...
Oh and for your comment with the 2 pictures:
It is more than clear that the second image has been manipulated in a graphis software with more saturation, as the colors get pixelated and edges jaggy.
There is a difference between contrast ratio and saturation but from your comment you still cant understand what it rly is...
For once, how can u see oled pure black (pixel turned off) on a screen that to display the picture it has to have the back light always on...
How do u expect a pure red color when you have a white bulb backlight? the same goes for blue and green...
You will never be able to understand oled quality from an average snapshot displayed on a lcd screen, if u cant understand something as basic as that then, please, remember that saying: "It's better to keep quiet and..."
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Im not trying to show off or anything, but what you are saying is false, "the end".
This is OLED technology, there is no such thing as "oversaturation" this doesnt use a backlight, the blue, green and red pixels are made of light, LIGHT, they are not complemented by the lcd backlight as a tn or ips panel does... so colors will look alot more realistic with bigger contrast ratio, with pure blacks and whites.
The camera quality is clearly average at best compared to a proper professional HD Cam corder, so it couldnt properly interpret the oled panel as its made purely of light, its like taking a snapshot of the sun, youre gonna miss details around it.
And then theres your screen, i take it ure viewing it in a LCD screen instead of an oled right? u cant compare lcd vs oled viewed on a lcd screen because that will downgrade the quality of oled to an lcd, no brainer here.
I dont understand why youre feeling so down, i bet you live in the marketing world where LCD is awzome and beats everything around... the fact is tough, lcd is by far the worst technology for color reproduction and pixel response time.
So i dont really get what youre trying to say here, see an oled screen in real life then talk ok?
The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
Its like saying psone has better specs than ps3...
Oh and for your comment with the 2 pictures:
It is more than clear that the second image has been manipulated in a graphis software with more saturation, as the colors get pixelated and edges jaggy.
There is a difference between contrast ratio and saturation but from your comment you still cant understand what it rly is...
For once, how can u see oled pure black (pixel turned off) on a screen that to display the picture it has to have the back light always on...
How do u expect a pure red color when you have a white bulb backlight? the same goes for blue and green...
You will never be able to understand oled quality from an average snapshot displayed on a lcd screen, if u cant understand something as basic as that then, please, remember that saying: "It's better to keep quiet and..."
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Wow,thats some great knowledge man
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I agree with what you're saying, just wanted to point out that the SAMOLED+ screen will have a normal RGB stripe so it's 3 subpixels for each pixel, rather than 2 subpixels in the current SAMOLED pentile (RGBG - RG being 1 pixel, BG being the next, so 4 subpixels for 2 full pixels). So yes, I happily welcome the fact that it'll be RGB per full pixel like most traditional displays.
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The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
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Just wondering. When the screen is off, why is it as black as the bezel around it, same on my One S, but on my Galaxy tablet and some other phones, it's grey and you can clearly see where the screen is?
I thought maybe the glass is darker, but wouldn't this screw up the contrast/colours of the screen? Or maybe the material doesn't reflect light as much, but what material is this?
It's the screen. Amoled's backlight is from the pixel itself and doesn't need any source for backlight. It's those backlights on non Amoled screens that make black look grey.
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Misread what you asked. Thought you meant when the screen is on displaying black.
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It's the screen. Amoled's backlight is from the pixel itself and doesn't need any source for backlight. It's those backlights on non Amoled screens that make black look grey.
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Misread what you asked. Thought you meant when the screen is on displaying black.
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You're pretty much right. Its the sheet of plastic that they use in the screen. It all depends on what type they use. It varies from screen to screen. Samsung uses AMOLED screens so they use a different type of backlight. Samsung tablets use PLS though, which is like their version of IPS. They use a lighter backlight so it looks different. I personally don't like PLS screens or bad IPS screens (like this phone). The off viewing angles are pathetic. Good IPS screens like on the Lenovo Yoga or the HTC One are great, but otherwise I prefer normal LCD. Just my opinion
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You're pretty much right. Its the sheet of plastic that they use in the screen. It all depends on what type they use. It varies from screen to screen. Samsung uses AMOLED screens so they use a different type of backlight. Samsung tablets use PLS though, which is like their version of IPS. They use a lighter backlight so it looks different. I personally don't like PLS screens or bad IPS screens (like this phone). The off viewing angles are pathetic. Good IPS screens like on the Lenovo Yoga or the HTC One are great, but otherwise I prefer normal LCD. Just my opinion
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Even cheap IPS destroys a TN panel..
I personally love IPS screens best.
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I personally love IPS screens best.
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Yeah but the viewing angles (in my experience) are bad if its not a high quality panel. I find the veiwing angles of this phone terrible and there's no denying it. Compared to the htc one, its horrible. I'm not trying to start a fight here, i know this phone is $300 cheaper than the htc one, but still, I prefer wide veiwng angles.
Actually my only gripe about the Nexus 4 aesthetically is that it's NOT as black as the bezel when it's off.. Sometimes it's grayish, sometimes it's actually darker (depends on the lighting). the Gnex was uniformly black when it was off (which is the one thing I loved about the design), while outdoors I can easily see the "gray" of the N4's bezel (screen if you're indoors) when the screen is off. Wish it was all black, looks much better that way.
The LCD itself is an important part of why it looks like it does, but the more important factor is that the LCD is optically bonded to the touch surface, leaving no space for light reflections, air, etc. between the touch surface and the LCD itself. In LCDs that are not so bonded you see light reflecting off the touch surface, but also light that passes through the touch surface and reflects back off the LCD surface. In an optically bonded display assembly much less light reflects off the LCD surface because they put glue or a similar substance between the touch surface and LCD so there's no air between them.
From memory it is the polarizing filter/layer(s) that dictate how dark the panel is when it is off.
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You're pretty much right. Its the sheet of plastic that they use in the screen. It all depends on what type they use. It varies from screen to screen. Samsung uses AMOLED screens so they use a different type of backlight. Samsung tablets use PLS though, which is like their version of IPS. They use a lighter backlight so it looks different. I personally don't like PLS screens or bad IPS screens (like this phone). The off viewing angles are pathetic. Good IPS screens like on the Lenovo Yoga or the HTC One are great, but otherwise I prefer normal LCD. Just my opinion
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AMOLED doesn't use any backlight. IPS/PLS/TN/PVA/etc. all use either CCFL or LED for backlighting, the brightness/dimness of the light source effect brightness when the display is on but not when it is off.
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From memory it is the polarizing filter/layer(s) that dictate how dark the panel is when it is off.
AMOLED doesn't use any backlight. IPS/PLS/TN/PVA/etc. all use either CCFL or LED for backlighting, the brightness/dimness of the light source effect brightness when the display is on but not when it is off.
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I know...I said PLS screens use a backlight, thats why they look different.
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I know...I said PLS screens use a backlight, thats why they look different.
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You said AMOLED uses a different kind of backlight, AMOLED uses no backlight so no you didn't know; and no the type of backlight isn't why they look different when the screen is off.
Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
What do you guys think? I haven't held a moto x and S5 together but I absolutely love the S5 screen.
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If anything, the 2k screen will be less bright...
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Resolution has nothing to do with brightness or vibrancy
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Huh? You don't push light through pixels with amoled screens. Per pixel brightness is certainly not affected by resolution, perhaps only with LCD screens.
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Amoled displays don't have backlights, the display itself is the source of light.
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My mistake, completely forgot that part about AMOLED. Been using IPS screens since I had a Galaxy Nexus, and that screen was junk.. so I've been wanting to stick to IPS. My G3 is gorgeous, so I'm kinda scared to see the N6 with AMOLED.
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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Mura affects aren't really part of amoled. Oled screens it is like on my ps Vita
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RedBlueGreen said:
Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
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AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
Are you sure cause the S2 with Super AMOLED was significantly better than their regular AMOLED models like the GNEX.
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I've not used AMOLED since my Galaxy Nexus, but it was horrendous. Banding visible all over the screen on grey or beige (light colored) screens.
Plus, it had burn in on the status bar that I could always see on full screen youtube videos etc. Was terrible.
I'm wondering have they improved the hardware technology since then or can I expect that again on the Nexus 6,
Look forward to the reviews on here after launch. :laugh:
The OCD fanboys who buy the first wave will be busy detailing the issues. I used to be one of them. I'll wait till the second wave this time. haha :good::laugh:
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AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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gtalum said:
AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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jmm22 said:
Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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Imagine if they used non pentile
This is a quick pull from wiki explaining the difference between all amoled screens
Super AMOLED[edit]
Super AMOLED is Samsung's term for an AMOLED display with an integrated digitizer, meaning that the layer that detects touch is integrated into the screen, rather than overlaid on top of it. According to Samsung, Super AMOLED reflects one-fifth as much sunlight compared to the first generation AMOLED.[21][22] The display technology itself is not changed. Super AMOLED is part of the Pentile matrix family. It is sometimes abbreviated SAMOLED.
For the Samsung Galaxy S III, which reverted to Super AMOLED instead of the pixelation-free conventional RGB (non-PenTile) Super AMOLED Plus of its predecessor Samsung Galaxy S II, the S III's larger screen size encourages users to hold the phone further from their face to obscure the PenTile effect.[23]
Super AMOLED Advanced[edit]
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Super AMOLED Advanced is a term marketed by Motorola to describe a brighter display than Super AMOLED screens, but also a higher resolution – qHD or 960 × 540 for Super AMOLED Advanced compared to WVGA or 800 × 480 for Super AMOLED. It also is 25% more energy efficient. Super AMOLED Advanced features PenTile, which sharpens subpixels in between pixels to make a higher resolution display, but by doing this, some picture quality is lost.[24] This display equips the Motorola Droid RAZR.[25]
Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
The Samsung Galaxy S II, with a Super AMOLED Plus screen
Super AMOLED Plus, first introduced with the Samsung Galaxy S II and Samsung Droid Charge smartphones, is a branding from Samsung where the PenTile RGBG pixel matrix (2 subpixels) used in Super AMOLED displays has been replaced with a traditional RGB RGB (3 subpixels) arrangement typically used in LCD displays. This variant of AMOLED is brighter and therefore more energy efficient than Super AMOLED displays[26] and produces a sharper, less grainy image because of the increased number of subpixels. In comparison to AMOLED and Super AMOLED displays, the Super AMOLED Plus displays are even more energy efficient and brighter. However, Samsung cited screen life and costs by not using Plus on the Galaxy S II's successor, the Samsung Galaxy S III.[18]
HD Super AMOLED[edit]
Galaxy Note II subpixels representation, based on 400X image of the Note II display[27]
The Galaxy Nexus, with an HD Super AMOLED screen[28]
HD Super AMOLED is a branding from Samsung for an HD-resolution (>1280×720) Super AMOLED display. The first device to use it was the Samsung Galaxy Note. The Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy S III both implement the HD Super AMOLED with a PenTile RGBG-matrix (2 subpixels/pixel), while the Galaxy Note II uses an RBG matrix (3 subpixels/pixel) but not in the standard 3 stripe arrangement.[27]
HD Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
A variant of the Samsung Galaxy S3 using Tizen OS 1 was benchmarked using a non-pentile HD Super AMOLED Plus screen in 2012.[29]
Full HD Super AMOLED[edit]
As featured on the Samsung Galaxy S4[30] and Samsung Galaxy Note 3. It has the broadest color gamut of any mobile display of up to 97% of the Adobe RGB color space, hence making it a wide-gamut display.[31][32]
Future[edit]
Future displays exhibited from 2011 to 2013 by Samsung have shown flexible, 3D, unbreakable, transparent Super AMOLED Plus displays using very high resolutions and in varying sizes for phones. These unreleased prototypes use a polymer as a substrate removing the need for glass cover, a metal backing, and touch matrix, combining them into one integrated layer.[33]
So far, Samsung plans on branding the newer displays as Youm.[34]
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OMFG are people here really this clueless? Samsung calls ALL their AMOLED panels Super AMOLED. That includes the ones they sell to Motorola and Nokia. They are ALL made by Samsung. The reason why the Moto X 2014 doesn't look as good as the Galaxy S5 is because Samsung ALWAYS sells the last generation to their competitors and saves the latest generation for themselves. In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4, not the S5. And for those dumb people who keep on saying higher resolution means lower brightness, this is only true for LCD since they use a backlight and it has to shine through each pixel, with more pixels decreasing the brightness overall. AMOLED is completely different in that each pixel is its own light source and when you pack them together, they will be brighter not dimmer, just like how your vanity mirror in your restroom will be brighter with three small 600 lumen bulbs near each other versus just one 900 lumen bulb.
theoneofgod said:
Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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For me both suck... cause of degradation of the organic led.. colors become toned... and burn in issue.. they are simply inadequate.. expecially at that price...
From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.
Nitemare3219 said:
Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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screen burn isn't a thing of the past.. beacause the technology il still the same.. organic led degradate with use.. losing brightness and uncalibrating all screen colors (this with homogeneous wear) but some elements like status bar icons and navbar buttons are always in the same position!! And they will burn in inevitably
Pilz said:
From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.
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nexus 4 & 5
In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4
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There is a slight difference between the moto X 2014 and S4 screens.
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Super AMOLED is a version of AMOLED display technology that integrates a capacitive touchscreen layer directly into the display instead of overlaying it on top of the display, as has traditionally been done. This results in a thinner design that uses less power and reflects less light, and as a result works better outdoors.
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