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How's everyone is holding up with the Nexus 4's limited storage.

So this is my first Nexus and my first smartphone where I don't have expandable memory. While I love the phone I'm sure most people including myself wish there was at least a 32gb model. Regardless there's not no sense in beating a dead horse. Just curious on how everyone's making due and what are your solution to the problem. I currently use Dropbox for pics and spotify and Google Music for music. It's working okay so far but apps aren't small these days so they take up some space
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ajoerivera said:
So this is my first Nexus and my first smartphone where I don't have expandable memory. While I love the phone I'm sure most people including myself wish there was at least a 32gb model. Regardless there's not no sense in beating a dead horse. Just curious on how everyone's making due and what are your solution to the problem. I currently use Dropbox for pics and spotify and Google Music for music. It's working okay so far but apps aren't small these days so they take up some space
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My solution was to order a PQI Air Drive and put my 64gb microsd card in it, works like a charm. Was lucky enough to snag one on groupon for 50 bux which came with a 32gb card already.

djkinetic said:
My solution was to order a PQI Air Drive and put my 64gb microsd card in it, works like a charm. Was lucky enough to snag one on groupon for 50 bux which came with a 32gb card already.
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Never heard of it ill have to look it up isn't that basically a cloud though
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I don't even need the 8GB of space.

asawoszc said:
I don't even need the 8GB of space.
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This. I still have 4.2GB free. Local storage is for the birds.
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El Daddy said:
This. I still have 4.2GB free. Local storage is for the birds.
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can you please tell me after everything installed in the 8gb version , how much gb free you have??

mrgold2505 said:
can you please tell me after everything installed in the 8gb version , how much gb free you have??
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5.67GB is the formatted capacity.
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El Daddy said:
5.67GB is the formatted capacity.
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So plaint of space for a old user like me...lol thanks for your fast replay. so i think iam going to by one in ebay...lol

2.99GB free as of now

800mb's free, thank god for the dup backup method in cwm recovery otherwise i'd only be able to keep one backup rather many.

peachpuff said:
800mb's free, thank god for the dup backup method in cwm recovery otherwise i'd only be able to keep one backup rather many.
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Why keep so many backups? I used to keep 2 but I never reverted back to anything except the most recent one. Now I don't even bother with nandroids.

13gb:beer:
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I have a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus 16GB and I have at least 10 GB free. I would have got 8GB but we only have 16GB version.
I use it for Web browsing, some music and games.
I agree those who have a lot of media files on their phones will face problems. But an OTG cable will solve the issue.
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I got the 16gb version but have 50gb on my dropbox account so its not issue to me

Just fine, I would have liked the 16gb but it wasn't available so I've made due with the 8gb and it hasn't been much of an issue.

peachpuff said:
800mb's free, thank god for the dup backup method in cwm recovery otherwise i'd only be able to keep one backup rather many.
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no reason to keep backups on your phone at all. store them on your pc or backup drive. should something happen you can always push it to your phone, either manually via abd (push file /sdcard/) or nexus toolkit comfortably.

The space has not effected me very much at all. Compared to my 8 GB iPod Touch my 16 GB Nexus 4 is a luxury.
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about 2gb free on the 8Gb version... I'll admit its a bit annoying at times, but overall not really an issue. The Google music, drive and box account for cloud storage basically take care of everything.
The saving grace is google music.. (did the hack to get it working in canada etc..) without that 8Gb would just not be enough at all.

4.2 gb

My last phone was a gs3 and I had a 32gb sd card in it. It being hooked up to sprint I personally couldn't rely I cloud services like I do now my service was that bad, and mind you I live in NY. having switched to A&tt is a lot better . I guess it just a little weird to look at my phone and only see 5gbs free.
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Not possible to move apps to SD

Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Denomenance said:
Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Hi,
It's a 4.2.2 "Feature"

It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.

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It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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Hi,
Also the "16GB" is actually only 9.15GB on my phone.
The system eats a fair portion of it.

Before 4.2.2 could you move to sd without rooting then? And will it really kill memory card If i rooted and use folder mount
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If you can't install apps on sdcard
How much space is available for applications in phone?
I'm using gs2 now, and it only has 2gmail for appear from internal memory.
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Youre looking at 9Gb for 16
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So what to do now? :-/ I bought the "16" GB phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?

Still taking any and all suggestions...

knowledgeworker said:
So what to do now? :-/ I bought the phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.

Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!

knowledgeworker said:
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Cloudsync syncs your pics etc with Dropbox or its samsung account
Swyped from another galaxy

Thanks, indeed. I deactivated all that cloud-syncing nonsense, which solved my problem for now. Now I have a few weeks or months until I have to think again what to do. :-/
Is "Swyped from another galaxy" that a joke on the Samsung Galaxy keyboard system? lol

You're probably looking at 24gb on the 32gb version so a bunch more memory.
Most people will in fact be fine with 9gb though, power users who download a lot of really inefficient apps that cache a lot of things and require a lot of storage should get the 32gb version. I personally will be fine with the 16gb version.

You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.

Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yeah i am also waiting for the 32GB version because of the same reason.

my htc one s 16gb has 2gb dedicated to apps. for me plenty atm. that's independent of the 9.93 internal sdcard, don't know if s4 is same. however, as mentioned, 16gb phones are too small now days and i won't pay for the s4 till it gets 32gb on att and black--
also don't think i can post links to other forums per xda. but if you google "att 32gb s4", there is a link to an att forum specifically for the 32gb release and an active att moderator--just fyi

Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yea, im waiting 32 gb version. :laugh:
16 gb (9.xgb or 8.8gb) is simply ridiculous
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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Really? cant u save on the sd card by defalut ????

First of all.. If u want to store ur camera photos on sd card use camera zoom fx.. It's a very good camera app and there u can choose where to store the photos
The second.. U have 8,8 gb on stock firmware if u install a custom rom in a few weeks it will be more free space because of some bloatware installed on the stock and files we dont need i think.. Let the dev's do there great job
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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For photos there's a setting in the camera app which let's you select which storage to use. If it's not there use a file explorer to copy your photos across to your sd card.
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Regretting i got the 8GB

How do some of you guys get around with teh 8GB version? I thought 8GB was enough for awhile, but now that i decides to put some games on i ran out of space. In fact i ran out of space as i was about to install teh game from the play store, but it stoped before it can get finished now the game isn't even there it still took up the space that it downloaded. any idea how i can get the space back

I really don't game much, I usually only have one or two installed at a time, I lose interest too quick. 8gb has been more than enough for me. I think you know the answer to your question. Move stuff off your phone that you don't need or uninstall games you don't play.

Not sure if this is gonna help you get that extra space back, but some Apps/Games download files which are stored in your SdCard/storage space.
try looking through /sdcard/Android/Data and see if you see it there and just delete the folder. If not...well i tried.

Don't have an answer for you other than moving stuff off. However to answer your question I get by perfectly fine with my 8gb. In fact I have 2.5 GB still free on mine and I will never fill it. I don't game on my phone (don't have time too) I just use it as a phone and G+ device.
I do hope you find a solution though. You could buy a 16gb then sell the 8 but I am sure you would have done that if you could
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Even 16 is not enough (for me)!
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AndroidKills said:
Not sure if this is gonna help you get that extra space back, but some Apps/Games download files which are stored in your SdCard/storage space.
try looking through /sdcard/Android/Data and see if you see it there and just delete the folder. If not...well i tried.
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Thanks that really helped.It was in that folder, but it was hidden i had to use ES explore to go in and find it.
username8611 said:
I really don't game much, I usually only have one or two installed at a time, I lose interest too quick. 8gb has been more than enough for me. I think you know the answer to your question. Move stuff off your phone that you don't need or uninstall games you don't play.
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I was like you when i first bought it too, but my offline gps takes about 1 gb for my states. Then 2 custom ROM files takes about another gb and that leaves me with about 2 gb left. 1 HD game takes about another GB. The whole phone requires about 1 GB(remaining) to function normally (for camera/video features). It would also resttrict all syncing when u run under 500MB. It's rather frustrating Google didn't offer the it as a 16GB as a minimum.

I personally think the microSD option is a great idea. I don't know why so many companies abandoned it.

You're welcome haha. I went through the samething before and learned myself that some files are stored on the phone even if you uninstall the app. Hope you don't mind clicking the thank button

qpqpqp said:
I personally think the microSD option is a great idea. I don't know why so many companies abandoned it.
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Cost basically. Its cheaper to manufacture without it. To keep a lower price point in the N4 (and well, the other Nexus devices), the added features of other phones (such as microSD support) are removed. Fortunately, devices are starting to ship with more internal storage (like the HTC One and S4), so I suspect the next Nexus phone will see somewhat more. Of course, if the rumors are true, there may very well be a new version of the N4 announced at I/O. We'll see.

For me it is enough. +20 songs, gta III and vice city, almost 50 apps and their backups. But hey, I'll love the 16 gb even when I'm happy with 8.
Just don't keep all the zips from nightlies of the roms
Enviado desde mi Google Nexus⁴

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Even 16 is not enough (for me)!
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Yes 32gb would be perfect for this phone
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18000 mp3's in the cloud, photos and movies on my WD n900 2tb router, and plex for all my media. I don't need more than 8gb I store everything in the cloud.
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Fataldesain said:
18000 mp3's in the cloud, photos and movies on my WD n900 2tb router, and plex for all my media. I don't need more than 8gb I store everything in the cloud.
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Cloud is only for rich people unfortunately.

Fataldesain said:
18000 mp3's in the cloud, photos and movies on my WD n900 2tb router, and plex for all my media. I don't need more than 8gb I store everything in the cloud.
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Yeah, the cloud is nice, but what about those who pay outrageous prices for their data? or those located in an area with terrible data speeds? Streaming isn't really an option because of the cost and/or buffering for those two examples. Personally, 16GB isn't enough for me at all. I have 35GB of music on my computer and while it's also uploaded to Google Music, I prefer not to stream to keep my costs down. I managed to cut my synced music down to 7GB of my most favourite tunes, so that still barely leaves me with 5GB for apps (I have about 100), pictures, games, and other misc. storage... It's pretty tight to manage, so 32GB or even 64GB would be a preferable option for me. I love everything else about the N4, so I try to live with just 16GB, but it's really quite low by today's standards. Google should have known this (and I know they do, but they just want to push their cloud services... this is old news by now)

I have the 16GB, two nandroids (one stock, one backup), 1GB of music, some pictures and a few casual games.
Left with 6GB. can't imagine life with the 8GB.

I been using drop box, it works for me.
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I don't plan on storing a lot of stuff on my phone, have my Nexus 10 for that But I ordered a 8GB N4 just now.
I know when I had my 8GB N7 (now currently discontinued), I found it a pain to hold everything I wanted. Hopefully, I won't find the need to store so much on the N4.

The games I play, eg not FPS, don't take up much room so as of right now I have 4.58gb free.
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I don't plan on storing a lot of stuff on my phone, have my Nexus 10 for that But I ordered a 8GB N4 just now.
I know when I had my 8GB N7 (now currently discontinued), I found it a pain to hold everything I wanted. Hopefully, I won't find the need to store so much on the N4.
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Tablets are different IME, I store a bunch of comic books, books and video on my ipad so the 16gb got eaten up quickly. I don't do any of that on my n4, podcasts are on there and pics...that's about it.

I have the 8gb and loads of 1gb+ games on it, what's my secret? Delete the core file of the game when not playing and upon reopening the app it asks you to redownload it and ta-da all your data is still there!
BTW the 50gb box is use full to save carbon (renamed to helium) backups if you use 7 archiver to shrink it into 200mb zips
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If you just need space for media consider getting a wireless drive as an alternative to cloud storage.
I have the pqi air drive with a 32gb SD card on board and it works very well.
http://recombu.com/mobile/news/pqi-...-ios-and-android-devices-photos_M16479-1.html

Galaxy S4 Space and Availability Questions

Hi
I am probably going to get a G54 soon and can't wait! But I have two questions before I take the plunge:
1) How much space is available on the 16gb version after removing all the bloatwave via root? This is a major concern for me in the chance there is not a white 32gb version because of the 9gb only available
2) Does anyone know if there are any plans for a White 32gb version to be released? I only see the black version available and I prefer the white version.
Thanks to anyone that can help and I hope all of you are enjoying your GS4's!

I have the same question... would love to know the answer! Thanks
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I've said it many times in many threads....debloating will not give you any use able space
-All the "bloat" is located in the system partition.
-the size of the partition is set to a certain amount, for our case it leaves us with about 9gb
-yes debloating will free space in the system partition, but its not going to change the size of the actual partition. Not to mention the system partition space is unusable for the user, it is there primarily for system/root purposes
-we will need Devs to change partition layouts if we want more free space
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Ah okay, I guess I'm stuck waiting for a possible white 32gb version...

Just get a 32gb sd card. I don't know why people need 32gb internally. I have 2000 songs, videos etc... I still have 5gb free internally and 90 apps installed.
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Brava27 said:
Just get a 32gb sd card. I don't know why people need 32gb internally. I have 2000 songs, videos etc... I still have 5gb free internally and 90 apps installed.
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Don't the apps download extra information that can slow them down if all that information is moved to the SD Card? The main two that have information like that for me are GroupMe and Facebook. Because for some reason on my iPhone my GroupMe app, among others, has data saved on my phone that boosted it's size from like 30mb to 600mb which I am sure is local data the app saves on my phone. So its a concern for me if the limited space on the 16gb is taken up by things like that. Also, is it possible to automatically save recorded videos and photos to the SD card? I know music can be played directly off of it but not sure about those two.

Memory how much free mem do you have

Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.

You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Well thats not really true. If you are rooted you can use folder mount which will do the job nicely. If not rooted then no you cannot move large files.

actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
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You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Please post the storage section in your settings.
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I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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Mine has always been accurate and never had to download any extra apps.
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Try running Disk Usage (free in the Play Store) which will give you a detailed breakdown of what is stored where. I've found it very useful for tracking down what is taking up all the space.

Inernal memory is partitioned
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Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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The issue is that the internal memory is partitioned and twhat is here called sd-card only get a part of it. The biggest other part is the system partition where Android and all the internal apps are stored. Therefore you only have this small amount of free memory.
Solution: None. Okay, you can root your device and then with some tricks integrate the external sd-card into your internal one but this is all not perfect and needs always a very fast sd-card.

mjasinsk said:
Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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I returned mine for a 32 model. If you can i would recommend doing so.
Woody
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mjasinsk said:
actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
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Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.

Ok thx. Disk usage helpd me to clean up some folders. Some magazines took hundreds of megabytes of memory. Right now i have 8gb of free mem
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Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.
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