Like it has a spring inside?
No, I'm not kidding here!
Hold the phone between your index finger and thumb about 1/4 way from the bottom and tap the back near the camera while listening. You can actually feel it too, like there is a spring inside. Not sure if it's the battery terminals or the display inside. I have the 16GB Korean model if that makes any difference.
I will try using the voice recorder to see if it can be recorded in case nobody else's phone does this. I've had it in many different cases as well, does not make any difference in the sound.
EDIT: The voice recorder and video camera (using the same mic) do not pic up this "anomaly". It would have to be recorded with another device.
cpufrost said:
Like it has a spring inside?
No, I'm not kidding here!
Hold the phone between your index finger and thumb about 1/4 way from the bottom and tap the back near the camera while listening. You can actually feel it too, like there is a spring inside. Not sure if it's the battery terminals or the display inside. I have the 16GB Korean model if that makes any difference.
I will try using the voice recorder to see if it can be recorded in case nobody else's phone does this. I've had it in many different cases as well, does not make any difference in the sound.
EDIT: The voice recorder and video camera (using the same mic) do not pic up this "anomaly". It would have to be recorded with another device.
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How often do you go around tapping your phone with it up to your ear?
I think it's either the camera lens or the vibration module. This is very normal, don't worry about it.
Obagleyfreer said:
How often do you go around tapping your phone with it up to your ear?
I think it's either the camera lens or the vibration module. This is very normal, don't worry about it.
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Just curious as to what's inside causing this. I felt it, if you hold it up to your ear you can hear a distinct "boing" when it's tapped.
Speaking of camera lens is the "stabilizer" function of the camera digital or active, i.e. suspended elements servo controlled, etc. ?
None of my other phones do this.
Some may call me crazy, but I do enjoy that sound. Not quite as good as the ting my s2 used to make doing the same thing
I get it too. Not worried about it.
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I noticed that too and they replicated that feel to the charger that came with it. kinda weird.
same here
i have it also...and is actually very bad. i tried to get it replaced, but the guys from samsung said it's normal and it will not affect the hardware of the phone. the phone is working great...without any problems,lags or errors so i think i will leave it that way. i watched a video on youtube about how to disassemble the s4, and i think is the vibrator motor. i hope so...because if is not the next think would be the display. if someone has any other clues please let us know
Its just the vibration module, the force makes it spin slightly causing the "springy" feeling like a light vibration, same with plugging your charger in its just haptic feedback bud
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Hey there,
My HD makes a resonating / ratling noise when I tap my finger on the camera area at the bakside.
Is someone else experiencing this too?
I tried twisting it a bit, pressing between fingers but it still resonates.
Is this perhaps the G-sensor / accelometer?
I've also noticed that, even with the stylus removed, if you hold the HD in one hand and tap it against you other hand, you can hear something move.
Now that you mention it, I guess it must be the G-sensor!
So.... is it?!
A small rattling is probably the G-sensor, my K850 makes a small noise due to it too.
It's the G Sensor. Give it a shake and you'll hear it carry on for a few seconds with your ear near the phone.
G-sensor? Not likely
I do not think so. G-sensors are solid-state devices: no moving pieces inside.
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I do not think so. G-sensors are solid-state devices: no moving pieces inside.
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Well accelerometer then, it's definately one of the two.
Well, the sensors do have moving parts - but I was fairly sure that those are of microscopic proportions (micromachined silicon).
I would be surprised if it was that.
Perhaps there's a hidden tray inside with a ball-bearing, necessary to run "teeter"
Today the messenger from Vodafone at my house to exchange the HD.
Guess what... the new one made the same noise.
A light resonating noise at the camera area at the back.
The messenger took the new one with him and left me my old one.
Vodafone will get in touch with me he said.
Anybody else experiencing this noise here?
Rattling htc hd
Yes mine does this - I think its the camera.
Take an extreme close up and you will hear the same rattle/click noise as if something drops back in to place following the close up focus...
Rattling noise here too.
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Well, the sensors do have moving parts - but I was fairly sure that those are of microscopic proportions (micromachined silicon).
I would be surprised if it was that.
Perhaps there's a hidden tray inside with a ball-bearing, necessary to run "teeter"
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HA, i knew that game seemed too lifelike
It's the 3.5 mm socket for your headphones jack, was bugging me for a while and got to the bottom of it. Insert your earphones/headphones jack, noise goes away..
I think you will find that it will be the lens in the camera. As I am sure you know this is an auto focus camera and of course that will need a moving lense body. G-Sensors and accelerometers are the same thing and indeed solid state, or pretty much anyway. It is not the headphone jack and I must say...if the noise bothers you... just don't tap the camera! Simple!
Please FOR THE SAKE OF GOD does your device also make rattling noise when you tape on the camera cover ?? Please we need to know because this issue is getting annoying !!! Its been a month with HD and now I hear a rattling noise whenever i tap on the upper part of the backcover near the camera. I tried with another HD and IT DOES THE SAME THING
I emailed HTC a week ago about the problem and they responded by saying "The rattling sound shouldn't be any problem" which makes it sound like they know the Touch HD makes the rattling noise
Please could you share your experience here ?! I need to know if I have the right to return it back and ask for replacement. My BlueAngel was as solid as rock
The rattling can be annoying, but I find it's only really noticeable when the phone vibrates.
Radeon123 said:
The rattling can be annoying, but I find it's only really noticeable when the phone vibrates.
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So you can also hear the rattling when u slap the backcover near the camera ? Is it a fault with the design ? Maybe the camera lens ? I can hear a similar sound when i take shots with the cam ( autofocus maybe ).
Xeon said:
So you can also hear the rattling when u slap the backcover near the camera ? Is it a fault with the design ? Maybe the camera lens ? I can hear a similar sound when i take shots with the cam ( autofocus maybe ).
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I do also hear it when I take shots when the camera starts auto focusing and when lightly tapping the back cover near the camera.
My older Diamond had the same problem.
Just the crap cameras HTC uses.
Radeon123 said:
I do also hear it when I take shots when the camera starts auto focusing and when lightly tapping the back cover near the camera.
My older Diamond had the same problem.
Just the crap cameras HTC uses.
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How pathetic, paying more than 1049$ for this machine and what a crappy built quality... screen bends when taping on it... backcover and usb cracking noise ( also near the volume buttons ) and now that freaking rattling noise.Absolutely crap.....
It must the mechanicals used for moving the lens during focusing.
Today I went to HTC dealer store nearby... I asked for a new device out of the box. Surprisingly, the new device also makes that rattling noise. I tend to believe it was meant to be done that way. Who knows... maybe its an option
Hay everybody, pls help me check if this is normal or my replaced phone is another defective one. thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jtl_N3rBxc
some information:
1. I have closed the camera app normally. I didn't suddenly took out the battery while the app is running.
2. The noise is actually pretty loud even with the battery cover on.
3. I used normal strength to do the experiment in the video. I didn't intentionally increase the strength to make it a problem.. Just like you casually put the phone on the table ...
Thanks!
yes shaking the **** out of it will probaby jack it up! just kidding mine don't do it
so bad luck i am ... gonna shake HTC in order to get my money back from their mouth..
The noise itself is normal, afaik everyone's phone make that sound.. However, and this could simply be the way it was recorded, your's sounds louder than both N1's have held (the two I had were identical). Again, this could simply be the way it was recorded.
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The noise itself is normal, afaik everyone's phone make that sound.. However, and this could simply be the way it was recorded, your's sounds louder than both N1's have held (the two I had were identical). Again, this could simply be the way it was recorded.
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Thanks bofslime, I would say the actual noise is louder that the one in that video. My original phone only makes noise while taking pictures. If you shake it, it won't do so. But this replacement does. That's why I become so nervous and want to check how's everyone's doing.
Thanks for your reply.
The consensus is that it's the auto focus mechanism on the camera rattling. Mine does it too and I suspect most (every?) other nexus one does too.
It's kinda annoying, but nothing 'wrong' as such.
GlenH said:
The consensus is that it's the auto focus mechanism on the camera rattling. Mine does it too and I suspect most (every?) other nexus one does too.
It's kinda annoying, but nothing 'wrong' as such.
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its quite normal imho. mine does it too.
I hadn't read the query just clicked on the video. Figured it was some nexus porn. *excuse comment this is of no value*
My camera rattles a little bit too when I shake it and/or give it a light tap on the battery cover near the camera. Hoping it's normal....
just wondering if any one with this phone wouldnt mind holding the phone to there ear whilst the camrea focuses as mine clicks very quietly and just wondering if they all do it or if mines faulty!
Cheers Guys
The camera is a small piece of hardware held in a small magnet driven cage. It moves slightly back and forth when focusing.
but is it suposed to click quietly?
I wondered why my camera made that sound too
Mine's always clicked and I've never had any problems with it - I just figure it's meant to be that way.
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but is it suposed to click quietly?
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Well mine makes no sound at all when i focus, and when i shake the phone (how this issue first came to light) i can barely hear it. Other people however have reported a much louder rattle.
If yours is noticably loud, and/or sounds like gears clicking, perhaps you have a badly mounted camera, and should get it replaced.
ok glad to see other people have herd the noise i guess it just how it is
My Camera makes no clicks when focusing, but ive just deafened myself when holding close to my ear and taking a picture!! that shutter sound is LOUD that close up!!
But if i shake my phone it does rattle.. its just the volume rocker, but also the bottom buttons are a little loose...
Went into the 02 shop and checked with 2 of there HD2 and they do click very quitely like mine
+1 ...
a common issue perhaps ....
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a common issue perhaps ....
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Or how it is meant to function?
A mechanical/moving parts-based focus system will always make noises.
I also can hear the "clicking", more like a distorted sound when focusing to near objects.
espaleena said:
I also can hear the "clicking", more like a distorted sound when focusing to near objects.
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me too I can hear the clicking !!!!
ahmadssb said:
me too I can hear the clicking !!!!
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I wonder its normal or not, cause I don't realize when taking photo outdoors.
Till I tried in my room which is very quiet & can hear it clearly.
Hope its not a broken mechanism or might just be the focusing of gears.
So far I've never dropped my HD2 nor hard shocking force to it.
Hi,
mine make a slight clic when focusing, but I clearly remember that my old sony W810i make that noise too, for me it seems normal for an autofocus device...
mine had a soft click too. but could'nt be heard when u taking a photo, just by holding near your ear it can be heard.
Every piece of machinery that I have with auto focus makes that kind of sounds - Video cameras, photo cameras, my old Asus P535, so it is PERFECTLY normal.
Sorry for bumping the thread.
I guess then it is normal to have similar (but more quiet) clicking when camera is switched off and you put the phone one the table for example
If you are not very gentle of course
Mine clicks too. Very silent noise. Can hear it not only when using WM, but also in Android, so i presume it's a hardware thing.
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The camera lens on the HD2 is likely like alot of smaller camera lenses and CD/DVD drive lenses. Think of a speaker with the voice coil that moves up and down, then replace the speaker cone with a lens. An electromagnet makes it move up and down to focus. The clicking you're hearing is likely the mechanical system hitting either the min or max stop point.
I hear it on mine too, never really bothered me since i understand how they work. Its also why you might hear a slight rattle when the camera is off. The optical system is mounted on very light springs, its going to rattle around when it doesnt have current flowing though the electromagnet to hold the lens stable.
If you have a broken CD/DVD drive tear it apart and check out how the lens is mounted in the optical pickup for a better understanding of the mechanics
The Galaxy S6 uses the same camera sensor as the note 4, but the S6 camera module has a slightly better lens. I use my phone for all kinds of product pictures and scanning notes/ lectures at school so I gotta have the S6 camera in my note 4. I'm going to document my swap here.
I just received my S6 camera module $20.00 from ebay G920F is the S6 model and 16M is the mega pixels the sensor captures. I'm still researching the video limit removing hack especially increasing 4k capture time from 5 min to 30 min. Heres my new sensor, I'm waiting on amazon to ship some disassembly tools I've been sorely needing. It's about time I had a real sprudger and not a harbor freight nylon body panel pry bar.
Pic of new sensor.
Let me know how it goes I've been thinking on doing the same thing
From what someone said samsung said the camera want work in n4 the to the software not compatible with the 2 phones. Let us know if it works along with some sample pics showing the improvement or issues.
Following!
Hmmmm this will void your warranty................I'm reporting to Sam sung
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^Hahahaha that got me rolling
Did this work?
So I want to say this is one of the hardest phones I've ever opened. I have a bunch of video footage I took and have not yet edited any of it. If you're super impatient I'll give you the super fast rundown without any details. Yes it works, but it isn't plug and play. The sensor is the same but the circuit board it is mounted on is not the same. The S6 camera module won't fit into the cutout made for the note4 camera module. What I ended up doing was removing the optics from the S6 camera lens, and swapping the actual lens portion of the camera module onto the note 4 sensor board, I'm waiting on gold foil tape from amazon to repair my EM shielding that got tore up by the glue. The note4 is entirely glued together. I'll post up pics and videos a bit later when I get more time. You can see the S6 CCD sensor and board there, I just snapped it since it was in my way and I couldn't fit it in my phone without cutting up my motherboard. I got the optics from it and stuck those in my phone. The photos are shot from my S4 which I'm using while I wait for foil tape from amazon. I have not gotten to test the software compatibility because my phone is still apart.
Another difference is in these little rollerballs inside the lens. I imagine they have something to do with focusing, The note 4 has 3 white ones in each rail you can see one in the photo it's the white sphere in the bottom of the magnetic generator part of the module. The S6 has smaller black ones as well, you can see in photo too. The note 4 doesn't matter on the arrangement of rollers, but the S6 has different roller arrangement and I wasn't expecting to find those so I don't know if I lost some or put them in the wrong order, I have to get another S6 camera module to investigate that if it matters
tl;dr you can swap the optics but it isn't as simple as you'd hope
This is pretty hardcore, I have to say. I was thinking whether or not this would work in my head, and now we have someone crazy enough to actually try it.
auto focus has some issues, but if I let it autofocus then move the camera manually I get a really nice clean shot. Noticing the phone gets pretty hot right behind the memory card slot, I'm wondering if I need thermal paste or something back there, but I put the phone back together and everything is ticking along just fine, I'm going to order another s6 camera module so I can pay attention to the order and composition of the rollers maybe that matters too. If that doesn't work then I'd say while the sensor may be the same apparently the board that drives the electromagnets is different and therefore this won't work since that board will not fit unless there is someone who can fashion an adapter cord to go between the sensor board and the mainboard thus allowing repositioning of the sensor board. I'm going to see if there exists some sort of "extension cord" for this type of connector. Basically I just need a bit of ribbon cable to give me a little flexibility in positioning the board and I can just plug and play the S6 board in there since I dremeled out my subframe a little.
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auto focus has some issues, but if I let it autofocus then move the camera manually I get a really nice clean shot. Noticing the phone gets pretty hot right behind the memory card slot, I'm wondering if I need thermal paste or something back there, but I put the phone back together and everything is ticking along just fine, I'm going to order another s6 camera module so I can pay attention to the order and composition of the rollers maybe that matters too. If that doesn't work then I'd say while the sensor may be the same apparently the board that drives the electromagnets is different and therefore this won't work since that board will not fit unless there is someone who can fashion an adapter cord to go between the sensor board and the mainboard thus allowing repositioning of the sensor board. I'm going to see if there exists some sort of "extension cord" for this type of connector. Basically I just need a bit of ribbon cable to give me a little flexibility in positioning the board and I can just plug and play the S6 board in there since I dremeled out my subframe a little.
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So more or less it works with minor issues?
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So more or less it works with minor issues?
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Uh I would say less. Auto focus flat out isn't working. The lens isn't getting positioned correctly relative to the ccd, this is a software issue or a hardware issue. The video is producing right now. Guess I should start taking some footage showing the problems. Just finished doing the swap video. This is only my second youtube video so I'm learning. I'm a filthy casual =P
Video should be produced and uploaded to youtube in an hour so sayeth the progress bar.
Off to the gym back in like 2 hours. Depending on how automated cyberpower is with youtube I'll have a link for you guys.
AAAND I forgot sound, man im a scrub I'm gonna postpone gym its too hot right now anyway.
Gutsy! My note 4 will not autofocus at all. Im interested if you think it is hardware or software. I have dropped it once. Could that have damaged these balls you are talking about?
Maybe or jammed it, the sensor is just free floating in there with 1 permanent magnet on each side of the optics carriage (the part that actually contains the glass lenses) then in the plastic housing there are what I think is 4, 2 coil electromagnets, one on each side that float the sensor to the correct position while it rolls on the little rollers in the two V grooves to keep it perpendicular to the ccd.
This is a photo of the S6 sensor, the note 4 sensor you can see in the video. Note 4 sensor has 6 white rollers total 3 for each Vgroove S6 has atleast 1 white 1 black for each but I may have lost some because I opened that sensor first and wasn't expecting tiny tiny rollers to be inside.
Okay learned a lot still a lot to learn about making videos.
Here is the video of the complete teardown with some commentary about what I'm doing. Gives you an idea of what you'll be up against in there and shows the disassembly of the camera module.
http://youtu.be/UC8sgsB4zGw
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Uh I would say less. Auto focus flat out isn't working. The lens isn't getting positioned correctly relative to the ccd, this is a software issue or a hardware issue. The video is producing right now. Guess I should start taking some footage showing the problems. Just finished doing the swap video. This is only my second youtube video so I'm learning. I'm a filthy casual =P
Video should be produced and uploaded to youtube in an hour so sayeth the progress bar.
Off to the gym back in like 2 hours. Depending on how automated cyberpower is with youtube I'll have a link for you guys.
AAAND I forgot sound, man im a scrub I'm gonna postpone gym its too hot right now anyway.
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You never skip the gym bro lol. For that you owe me a heavy set of 30 of squats or deadlifts
Okay so the extension cord idea has been done, I'm hoping I can find the connector easier than he did for LG
https://zavax.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/extend-the-3d-stereo-camera-module-of-lg-thrill-phone-p925/
how is audio on video recording? I have soo many issues with audio with this phone, Im a pro singer and I record my live concerts for references but audio is soo bad, it have a lot of noise, like it have some kind of noise reduction that when music is louder, the sound of the video decreases and its gets choppy with a lot of noise, been researching about it and asking about it everywhere here in xda and can't find solution :/
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how is audio on video recording? I have soo many issues with audio with this phone, Im a pro singer and I record my live concerts for references but audio is soo bad, it have a lot of noise, like it have some kind of noise reduction that when music is louder, the sound of the video decreases and its gets choppy with a lot of noise, been researching about it and asking about it everywhere here in xda and can't find solution :/
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Umm this phone doesn't have a terrible audio. For a phone is actually amazing. No its not studio quality for no complaints for a phone....clearly you haven't compared it to other phones. No hate.
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how is audio on video recording? I have soo many issues with audio with this phone, Im a pro singer and I record my live concerts for references but audio is soo bad, it have a lot of noise, like it have some kind of noise reduction that when music is louder, the sound of the video decreases and its gets choppy with a lot of noise, been researching about it and asking about it everywhere here in xda and can't find solution :/
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I considered a similar situation when trying to use my phone as a decibel meter to measure how loud my car exhaust was. I was getting complaints from one of my neighbors about my wrx being too noisy so I ended up measuring it with my phone. It didn't work because the microphone on these phones is chosen and calibrated for its sensitivity to the noise a regular human voice makes when the phone is reasonably close to a human mouth. Using the phone in a "live" environment or somewhere there is a ton of background noise or amplified vocals or other sources of noise outside of its specs will likely interfere with your recordings. You'd need to test it in a more scientific way to narrow down the problem try isolating if all recordings are ruined or just really loud ones or if even the choppiness could be caused by processing power and too many background apps or something.
Helloooo everyone. I only have one question, want to confirm or debunk something with the wider group of people. I may be just over reacting but thats just the jewish part of me considering the rma or a refund, kidding, lol. Whenever I shake my phone by the ear I can hear a lil something being loose in the case of my g6. Do You also experience the same thing? Can it truly be the autofocus thingy, or something else?
I don't hear anything when I shake my phone. Is it your phone, or do you have your phone in a case? If so, have you tried removing and shaking both separately?
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Well, it happens with a firm shake, and the vibration inside is very delicate. Appreciate the feedback
It could be the OIS on the main camera. I don't hear a shaking but my hearing isn't that good either lol
It's the camera stability, it's perfectly normal. If you put your ear next the the camera and shake the phone quickly you should hear it. Also try it while the camera app is open and the stability is working, you shouldn't hear anything.
Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
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It's the camera stability, it's perfectly normal. If you put your ear next the the camera and shake the phone quickly you should hear it. Also try it while the camera app is open and the stability is working, you shouldn't hear anything.
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Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
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Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
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I can hear it and i think thats perfectly normal, probably for every phone. Don't really know what it is but i was always suspecting it was gyroscope or something like that. My LG G3 also had this same sound when shaking.
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Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
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It's OIS, or optical image stabilization.
Ok. Thank You all for help! I get real concerned really easy. I only bought my G6 a few days ago. If it wasnt for my 4yo daughter pushing the sim needle into the sound cancellation mic hole on top during my brief absence in the room right after I brought the thing home Id be completely chill rofl. )
Sorry to reply years later, but I just dropped my G6 and then tested it, and shook it hard, and noticed same rattling lol. I took my fiancé's iPhone that also has OIS etc, iPhone 6S that is, and although it sounds tinier, the rattle is still there.
The reason why some owners don't notice the rattle and some do, is because it solely depends on how hard they're shaking their phone AND the direction or way they're shaking it. That is all there is to it.
Your phone is awesome and not broken, at least when it comes to this. You might have a totally different phone by now lol!
Cheers!