[Q] Nexus 4 - Am I making a mistake? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am an avid fan of the Samsung S series of phones. I've had a few and to date think the S3 is the best they've done so far (S4 notwithstanding). But, I love the Google Nexus series of phones and have owned one, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I purchased the Nexus 4 on Saturday from Google and I cannot wait to get it. I love the bareness of the Nexus line. I love Android in its stock form. Thing is, I'm going from one of the best selling phones to a midlevel device. Am I making a mistake doing this? What am I loosing? Currently, we do have LTE in our area but it's sucking the heck out of my battery on the S3 so I'm not concerned if the N4 has no LTE. Am I gaining anything from going to the N4? Is the camera good enough? What about the sound on it - it sucked moose butt on the SGN!
I'm hoping for some comments and opinions that will help me in evaluating this latest purchase and what to expect. Thanks guys:good:

Mid-level? You do realize a quad core chip and 2gb of ram make this a high-level device as for lte I personally don't use it and camera is better then the galaxy nexus but isn't the best obviously for the price speakers do fine as well
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Wait until the 15th this month, there is a revised Nexus 4 to be released that should support full LTE, 32 GB of storage and maybe other upgrades. For the current one i`am very happy with it, the camera is a bit less than in the S3, but the cpu and gpu are much better. The screen is fantastic, bright, crisp and a good vieuwing angles. For me it is an upgrade compared to the S3 or even the S4 (wich i`am gona skip for sure). The N4 has no bloatware and great development. And for a very good price.
BTW the N4 is not mid level

Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.

can6rxw said:
Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.
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The internal storage of the Galaxy S4 is 16GB and 7GB is for the OS and lots and lots of gimmicks/bloatware/crap. 9GB available for the user We on the N4 have about 13GB left.

I don't think branding the N4 as a mid level device is correct or at least in my opinion. Perhaps it's the price tag that makes it "mid level" or whatever the reason is, the Nexus 4 is more of a high end device for cheap.
I bought a brand new GS3 from a friend a few weeks ago and I don't like it anymore. It was a good idea I didn't get it last year when it came out. I'm gonna sell it...
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Yeah, the N4 is a high-end phone for a mid-range price. Absolute bargain.
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Its odd the “mid range" stigma that's put on the N4 by average consumer, even here at xda. I've seen hundreds of post from various forums or sites in the comments with people calling it that and ironically they are Galaxy users who usually say things like this poster also did about the UI being sluggish while confidently calling the S a high end device lol. OP glad you got the N4, you'll be more than satisfied I believe, you'll read a bunch of complaints on here, but like absolutely any other phone available if you read enough threads on here people will have funky devices or just nit picky problems. UI is awesome, storage is pretty sufficient, OS barely uses any space, I have probably 1000 pics, 30 albums and maybe 50 apps including CSR Racing which is large and have about 4.5gigs free. Lacking LTE maybe an issue for some, but honestly I think it becomes a feature option issue for most, the inability to claim LTE rights amongst other phone users lol, I'm on T-Mobile and live in Philadelphia, my data is always fast, in most real world scenarios as fast as my boys DNA, and as fast as my brother in laws S3 on AT&T. Camera is another issue for some, not for others, look on the pic from n4 thread, when you work at it, the phone is capable of taking some amazing shots, on the fly pull your phone out and snap can be hit or miss but why some people expect or even need their phone to be art gallery worthy pics I don't know lol. Speaker, is well a speaker, I can hear when I need to, but all this talk of the HTC having "boom" sound and dual speakers for what? If I wanna host a mini rave with my phone? Lol I just don't see the real world use for it. Summing it up, everyone that has touched my N4 since I got it, users of iPhone, S phones and even my cousin who still won't let BlackBerry die has loved this phone after spending as little as 10 minutes with it. Feels great in the hand, UI is always snappy, screen is crisp.
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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.

can6rxw said:
Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.
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I'd agree with putting on a back glass protector. If anything the Nexus is a more high-end phone than the S3 tbh, the S4 Pro trumps the Exynos; 2GB RAM > 1, the screen is at a higher resolution and the build feels more premium than the S3. The only reason it's sometimes called a mid range phone is because of the price. There also seems to be a lot of hate for it on the internet though, which is odd because everyone I know who has one likes it. I think that it's only because loads of people wanted one but had huge delays when ordering it.

A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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Slim but tough is what I'd want in a case. Know which is best?

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A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.

can6rxw said:
True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.

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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.
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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.

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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.
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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?

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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?
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I don't have the XDA case. I don't like the color and design.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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If you want the rearth ringke fusion case I can give it to you for free if you live in the U.S. I don't need it. It's just sitting in my desk drawer not being used.
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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The S4 is 850-900 USD in the Netherlands off contract

androidfoshizzle said:
Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Well either way the S3/S4 are high-end devices. I doubt the Nexus 4 beats the both devices. The S4 has a newer CPU and it's software features are awesome in my opinion.
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N1 vs Nexus S

Which one is better and why? I'm really in need of new phone please help me.
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I go for LG optimus x2, it's a dual core phone.
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Depends on what you want out of an Android phone. You can't buy the Nexus One directly from Google, you can with the Nexus S though (and Best Buy). I still have the Nexus One and I really don't see myself even considering the S due to the lack of things I need (FFC is useless, plastic throws me off).
So if I buy N1 would it be upgradable to honeycomb? And is it fast compare to x10? That's what I currently have?
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the_ahmadzais said:
Which one is better and why? I'm really in need of new phone please help me.
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I have the nexus one, but if i could choose now - I'll definitely go for the Nexus S without a doubt.
The touch screen on the nexus one is abysmal. It has multiple freezing issues, and a boatload of bugs that no one is bothering to fix. It's also much slower than the S... i've had a play on my brother's S, and it's so smooth, responsive.. amazing phone.
Also, you're guaranteed to survive at least 1 Android upgrade with the Nexus S, seeing as it's the flagship google dev phone as of now. The nexus one... not sure how much longer it can go. probably a while, but that would be do to the mod community and not the official channels.
Go Nexus S and don't look back.
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So if I buy N1 would it be upgradable to honeycomb? And is it fast compare to x10? That's what I currently have?
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Yes it will. You are basically comparing phones with the same hardware, both 1 GHz, 480 x 800, 5 MP, capacitive buttons, etc. Updates should be reasonably quick depending on how Andy Rubin runs things.
Oh and the major difference being that the Nexus One has dual noise canceling mics, phones calls are going to be crisp and better for the person on the other end. The Nexus S has a front facing camera, once Skype gets on Android, it might take off.
I have the Nexus One and my wife has the Nexus S. Neither is rooted. I find the USER EXPERIENCE on the Nexus S to be MUCH BETTER than the Nexus One. Larger and brighter display that you can use outside. Not the fingerprint magnet the Nexus One is. Much smoother touch screen experience. And I don't know what all the fuss is about the plastic case vs the metal case. I find it very sturdy and it even feels better in your hand. It's faster at almost everything. You can even hear the speakerphone. Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus One. But if some one ask me if i would trade it for a Nexus S... Without any hesitation YES!
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And I don't know what all the fuss is about the plastic case vs the metal case.
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Fingerprinting on the battery door. If you get fingerprints all over the Nexus One battery door, I am surprised. On the Nexus S, not so much.
I had the n1 one for about a year and upgraded to the nexus s just 2 weeks ago. I find the battery life to be amazing (full day normal use) on the nexus s. The most important improvement has been the touch screen, not cause i play games, but for typing. I noticed that im making less mistakes on the nexus s and my speed has gone up substantially, i also had gingerbread on my n1.
Go with the Motorola Atrix or a new tablet.
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Go with the Motorola Atrix or a new tablet.
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Tablets are for sick people.
Both Nexus phones are great and both have their problems...but nothing is perfect!
I had the nexus S for about two weeks before I had to return it since T-Mobile service is horrible where I live.
I've gotta say that the S is better in most aspects. The screen is amazingly bright and easy to read in sunlight. The screen also registers fast typing much better, so I make a lot less mistakes.
Stock gingerbread is so fast and smooth.
However I didn't like the glossy plastic construction on the NS. It was a fingerprint magnet. Also, the quality control on new units were terrible.
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the only thing that I keep N1 is to stay with T-Mobile $5.99 old unlimited data plan.

a sad subject. who's buying the Nexus 4 on here!?

I, like many of you, was going to stay loyal to the good old Motorola Atrix. Especially since we finally got CM10 that actually worked pretty much flawlessly for most, except the battery life which was completely awful. I haven't seen much going on here, and usually I would care since I love my Atrix and would like to see more going towards the improving of CM10...but how much can we really improve? I'm stuck with the thought that we're lucky and this is as good as we'll get with Atrix. So...the Nexus 4 comes out the 13th and it's only $300. There's a lot of controversy about the no LTE thing, I've never had it so I don't care. The SD card thing is a shame but googles done it since the Nexus S so it was expected. Anyways, I think it's amazing. I've always hated the cheap plastic quality of the Atrix and the horrible adhesive that I blame for the corners of my screen popping up. This has gorilla glass on both sides which I find really cool. It looks like the most solid Android phone out there right now, I don't think any phone meets it's build quality. No removable battery is upsetting, but it's not like they could of done a removable glass back cover. Plus I think it has do do with making the device thinner. Annnyyywayss... I'm getting it. It's the best, most powerful, and its CHEAP. So who else is ditching the Atrix (sad I know) for the Nexus 4?
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I, like many of you, was going to stay loyal to the good old Motorola Atrix. Especially since we finally got CM10 that actually worked pretty much flawlessly for most, except the battery life which was completely awful. I haven't seen much going on here, and usually I would care since I love my Atrix and would like to see more going towards the improving of CM10...but how much can we really improve? I'm stuck with the thought that we're lucky and this is as good as we'll get with Atrix. So...the Nexus 4 comes out the 13th and it's only $300. There's a lot of controversy about the no LTE thing, I've never had it so I don't care. The SD card thing is a shame but googles done it since the Nexus S so it was expected. Anyways, I think it's amazing. I've always hated the cheap plastic quality of the Atrix and the horrible adhesive that I blame for the corners of my screen popping up. This has gorilla glass on both sides which I find really cool. It looks like the most solid Android phone out there right now, I don't think any phone meets it's build quality. No removable battery is upsetting, but it's not like they could of done a removable glass back cover. Plus I think it has do do with making the device thinner. Annnyyywayss... I'm getting it. It's the best, most powerful, and its CHEAP. So who else is ditching the Atrix (sad I know) for the Nexus 4?
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I'll probably just wait for the SG4, since I actually have LTE in my area.
Have fun with your N4.
Nope...
Not me...
I'm currently running CM7 and will soon flash to Nottach so I can use it with my lapdock... as soon as my Note II shows up next week! :highfive:
At first I thought cool, but I'd prefer to have LTE on my next phone. The real deal killer for me is no SD card. I've got a 32gb sd card + internal storage in my atrix and I'm running low on space. Being stuck at just 16gb is no go for me.
Not me, I'm loyal to my Atrix. Please go crying somewhere else
I'm still up in the air between the optimus G and the nexus 4. I'm leaning towards the G as it has lte and more space. The fact that it's shipping with a locked bootloader is a bit worrisome, but so did our atrix. It's so close, essentially identical, to the nexus so once it's bootloader is unlocked it should stay up to date.
Maybe getting the nexus 4 but just to play around with still sticking to the atrix though
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Wow. That's surprising. I would also love LTE, but I can easily live without it honestly. I have wifi at home and any other building... and on the go I really don't care to have super fast speeds... of course there's a difference in pages loading but it's not significant enough for me to really care. I would like the Note 2 also like many of you... but it's really not the top of the line. It's pretty powerful, just not the best. And I'm tired of hard white cheap plastic. I would of thought so many more of you guys would like the N4... you know you can also wait for the SGS4 but it's going to be the same old plastic device as the previous ones. It's the power and the quality that really made me want the N4. Oh, and it's extremely cheep.
Me. HSPA+ 42 is close enough to LTE in my area for the difference to be negligible. LTE is a huge battery hog anyway. Bring on the Nexus 4!
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Wow. That's surprising. I would also love LTE, but I can easily live without it honestly. I have wifi at home and any other building... and on the go I really don't care to have super fast speeds... of course there's a difference in pages loading but it's not significant enough for me to really care. I would like the Note 2 also like many of you... but it's really not the top of the line. It's pretty powerful, just not the best. And I'm tired of hard white cheap plastic. I would of thought so many more of you guys would like the N4... you know you can also wait for the SGS4 but it's going to be the same old plastic device as the previous ones. It's the power and the quality that really made me want the N4. Oh, and it's extremely cheep.
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So, are you saying the LGN4 is the best? The best is what works for 'you'. Smaller screen, non-removable battery, and no expansion for SD card does not equel best in my book.. but that's me .. .oh, and no LTE.. my daughter has the SGSIII, doesn't feel cheap to me...
I'm getting the Note 2 for the larger screen and the S Pen features and the other feature the Nexus line lacks, mentioned above. To me those are important, to you it isn't, personal choice... I've had HTC, LG, Samsung, Moto... I go with the company/phone that has the features I want..
Good luck and have fun with your LGN4!
Am I getting one? Yes. Am I getting one now or any time near launch? No. My contract with AT&T still has some time left, so I dont want to lock myself into a GSM network should a PAYG CDMA option appear that looks really appealing. My Atrix will be sticking with me for at least another 5 months.
I could care less about LTE. My home internet is only 6mbs down, so its not like HSPA is any slower than wifi for me.
LG + No Ext MicroSD = Automatic NO BUY...
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LG + No Ext MicroSD = Automatic NO BUY...
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...Read some review actually. LG is known to have bad build quality but Google made sure it didn't. And it's said so far that is has the best build quality out of any Android phone right now.
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At first I thought cool, but I'd prefer to have LTE on my next phone. The real deal killer for me is no SD card. I've got a 32gb sd card + internal storage in my atrix and I'm running low on space. Being stuck at just 16gb is no go for me.
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My sentiments exactly! I need my entire music library on my phone all the time, as well as random movies and roms, etc...
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...Read some review actually. LG is known to have bad build quality but Google made sure it didn't. And it's said so far that is has the best build quality out of any Android phone right now.
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Engadget rated it pretty poor for audio quality. (Max volume)
LG and HTC are 2 phones that I've had major problems in the past with multiple phones of each.
I wouldn't mind giving the N4 a try and sell it if I don't like it, but the lack of External Micro SD was the "Easy" nail in the coffin for me.
Google must think that AT&T just loves to give unlimited data away for free, and WiFi can only do so much, which is why I need my Ext SD...
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I am one of those rare idiots who prefer phones with smaller screens and higher resolutions....
and currently i dont see any phones in 4-4.3 inch mark that are worth upgrading.. so ill be sticking to atrix for quite a while looking at current breed of ultra big phones
Not I...I went from Atrix to SGS3
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I don't see a huge improvement in the smartphone society so I'll stick with my beloved atrix on mrom until something that blows my mind comes out or until it breaks. BTW my country only supports expensive 3G so I'm not using data.
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I'm going to give it a few more weeks for reviews and complaints. I was originally going to get a Galaxy Nexus but aside from no LTE the LG is still a nice phone.
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Apparently the battery life is terrible. I remember the atrix would last a good 30 hours with moderate use for me.
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[Q] best phone currently for T-mobile

So I bit early last week on a N4 16gb when they first went available again, and since then it seems like the people who are receiving the last batch of the initial stock are posting reviews and Impressions of the device and aren't totally smitten. Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
What i was wondering, was which phones people felt were the best option for T-mobile. The keys i was taking into account were:
•strong processor (min. Dual core)
•decent to big battery
•high res. Screen (and at least 4.3")
•good video/gaming playback
•decent volume (doesn't feel tiny on headphones on high)
•should be semi safe with updates for next 2 years.
I am in the middle of a mobile contract with a Htc Radar 4g, and its just not enough for me and leave me wanting. So am looking for a phone that could potentially survive at least another 2 years. I was thinking of options like the note II, gsIII, HTC one international (w/ non-gba card), gnex. The only thing i will rule out is the iPhone because i have a PC, no offense to iPhone users.
So tell me your opinions and views.....if this thread should be moved elsewhere i allow the moderators to move it otlr let me know and let me know how to move it.
Thanks in advance
I would say note II but then again im on att ^^
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Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
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I think you should think about whether you actually care about these things.
Rattling - basically non-existant, you can't even hear it unless you litterally shake your phone right next to your ear repeatedly.
Glass Back - This is user preference
overheating - pretty sure this only occurs during benchmarking?
buzzing in earpiece - I dunno about this
non-optimization of 4.2 - i'm sure all phones are getting 4.2 eventually so this part might not even apply specifically to the Nexus 4.
I've now lived with a 16gb N4 for about five days and I think it's the best phone on Tmo by a country mile.
Like you, I upgraded from an HTC Radar (actually liked that phone quite a bit), but I carefully tested all of the contenders currently available on Tmo and available unlocked. I opted for the N4 from Google Play.
I guess there may be a rattle but I honestly didn't notice it until I read about it (and I'm still not sure I hear it like some hear it). I've been shocked at how fast and buttery smooth Jelly Bean is. It really is awesome.
Hardware feels more elegant than other Android devices I've felt... Screen is beautiful and battery life has been fine for me (lasts a full day of moderate use).
I dunno. Maybe it's still honeymoon but I'm happy with it!
N4 rocks for me on T-Mobile!
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N4 rocks for me on T-Mobile!
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+1 on this, coming from Sprint epic.
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exaybachay01 said:
So I bit early last week on a N4 16gb when they first went available again, and since then it seems like the people who are receiving the last batch of the initial stock are posting reviews and Impressions of the device and aren't totally smitten. Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
What i was wondering, was which phones people felt were the best option for T-mobile. The keys i was taking into account were:
•strong processor (min. Dual core)
•decent to big battery
•high res. Screen (and at least 4.3")
•good video/gaming playback
•decent volume (doesn't feel tiny on headphones on high)
•should be semi safe with updates for next 2 years.
I am in the middle of a mobile contract with a Htc Radar 4g, and its just not enough for me and leave me wanting. So am looking for a phone that could potentially survive at least another 2 years. I was thinking of options like the note II, gsIII, HTC one international (w/ non-gba card), gnex. The only thing i will rule out is the iPhone because i have a PC, no offense to iPhone users.
So tell me your opinions and views.....if this thread should be moved elsewhere i allow the moderators to move it otlr let me know and let me know how to move it.
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I just came from the HTC Radar and the Nexus 4 is an amazing update, not even looking back
I agree with the rest of them. N4 is the best, and I came from an International Galaxy SIII (i9300).
N4 had two updates in the first week I got it. Guess how many OFFICIAL updates my Galaxy SIII has had in 6 months? 1.
N4 by far thanks to Tmo's 3G network, on ATT it is a little less desirable (~3Mbps download is downright average) but I would NEVER consider getting a phablet like the note and I prefer stock android to any skinned version.
I'd rock an N4
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I went from a One S to GSIII to a Nexus 4 and I love it. Not regretting the purchase at all and I will have this for the next 2 years no question.
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The n4 is all of those things you are asking for.
To address your gripes:
Rattling: it's the auto focus mechanism. Many phones do this, is meant to happen. You probably won't notice it unless you are looking for it.
Buzzing: I've heard about this, my phone doesn't have the issue.
Glass back: personal preference
Overheating: I have been playing games, no heat issues to report.
The only thing that has been happening, which was also happening on my GNex with 4.2 is a rare soft boot crash. The X pops up out of nowhere. I would imagine an ota will fix it.
Glad to get home from work (posted this while on break) and to see that there have been several replies, and without any infighting at that. Good for this thread, pat yourselves on the back ladies and gents.
To follow up on a few things, I loved my Radar when I first got it, HTC makes excellent phones, and many people (not super high end phone people) were surprised by how nice the screen was, just dismayed by the side...the unfortunate drifting island that is windows 7.5 is what made me start looking for a replacement. As well as the ability to easily recoup the money that I would spend on an N4.
To those of those that touted how much they liked the N4, have you had any issues at all. I know some touched on not having the same issues that i mentioned. The yellow tinted screen is something else I have seen mentioned. Of those who have the phone how many are from THE 1ST BATCH of sales. Am curious to see if there is a chance that most of the problems were with the 1st batch, or possibly foreign made batches.
It looks like it is going to to be a good match, but still want to hear more and from people who haven't posted.
For those that came from the sIII, note or gnex, what do you like more about the N4 through your use already.....and any suggestion on cases?
Your in the Nexus 4 forum asking about the best phone for tmobile. I wander how this will play out...
The only main issue that you need to debate if you can handle it with the nexus is the buzzing/ crackling noise from earpeice. Some say it's doesn't matter, because they can't hear it, but some phone have it worse then other. I have two nexus 4 here and one is not noticeable, while the other is quite loud. Also Yellowing spot on the phone when it gets warm which happen when you play game or watch a hd movie for a bit. The yellow spot is most likely a hardware issue, it's not the same as a yellow tint which you may also get.
svengalis said:
Your in the Nexus 4 forum asking about the best phone for tmobile. I wander how this will play out...
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I asked here for honest opinions, people who have the N4 and are getting replacements or are having to deal with the issues and stomach it would be open to stating if they love the phone or feel regret.
Tenji7 said:
The only main issue that you need to debate if you can handle it with the nexus is the buzzing/ crackling noise from earpeice. Some say it's doesn't matter, because they can't hear it, but some phone have it worse then other. I have two nexus 4 here and one is not noticeable, while the other is quite loud. Also Yellowing spot on the phone when it gets warm which happen when you play game or watch a hd movie for a bit. The yellow spot is most likely a hardware issue, it's not the same as a yellow tint which you may also get.
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It seems from reading that you either get the the yellow spots or the yellow tint, if anyone is getting the yellow tint, is it consistent or off and on, and do you think they will call for a recall due to any of these issues?
Note 2 IS THE BEST at the moment in terms of specs
But N4 is still a good choice, more budget friendly AND it may lose in specs on paper, but it has yet to crash and is SILKY SMOOTH.
also not to bash on note 2, but my friend just got it and i had a few minutes to play with it....but after using pure android (came from sg2), note 2 felt VERY bloated and sometimes slow (note this is on stock)
BTW i have no issues with my phone, but other have said that you can always do a rma thru google. and ofc tmobile honors factory defects as well.
ugotproblemz said:
Note 2 IS THE BEST at the moment in terms of specs
But N4 is still a good choice, more budget friendly AND it may lose in specs on paper, but it has yet to crash and is SILKY SMOOTH.
also not to bash on note 2, but my friend just got it and i had a few minutes to play with it....but after using pure android (came from sg2), note 2 felt VERY bloated and sometimes slow (note this is on stock)
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Stat wise? Note 2 is the best? (laughs hard and sharts in pants) Show me where the Note 2 is beating the Nexus 4 in stats. Please do. Screen size doesn't count wither there bud.
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Freshly_Snipes said:
Stat wise? Note 2 is the best? (laughs hard and sharts in pants) Show me where the Note 2 is beating the Nexus 4 in stats. Please do. Screen size doesn't count wither there bud.
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Note 2 has better camera front and back also has a micro sd slot also note 2 has the best battery life.
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Note 2 has better camera front and back also has a micro sd slot also note 2 has the best battery life.
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+1
Also although we(n4) have the same CPUs and GPU as the LG optimus G, when the Optimus G is compared with the note 2 they were basically a even match with the note 2 slightly ahead in some of the benchmarks. Now we know the optimus G is one hell of a phone and we should also too right? But with the currently thermal throttling/overheating, we arent even up to the optimus G level yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSF6zFc6pV0
i know benchmarks dont mean sh1t but same with specs looks good on paper but it doesnt reflect its daily usage.
That's why i said in terms of specs its better. i didnt say that its the best overall.

Nexus 4 dilemma.

Im using galaxy nexus but yet the idea of getting this nexus 4 won't go out of my head.
What i like about new nexus? hmmm.. New design perhaps but then again casing will take it away. Better camera? Not that big of deal.. I rarely take pictures with my phone. Faster processor? Don't play games and i mostly close every app after using 'em. IPS display? Nahh i do watch some YouTube clips and i kinda prefer amoled for this sort of things. They say it has faster mobile module some report speeds up to LTE But im personally fine with gnex 7Mbps on tmobile.
Damn it, Not a single excuse to get one.. I guess GNex pretty advanced or n4 pretty much not that advanced.
What to do?
skyrocket727 said:
Im using galaxy nexus but yet the idea of getting this nexus 4 won't go out of my head.
What i like about new nexus? hmmm.. New design perhaps but then again casing will take it away. Better camera? Not that big of deal.. I rarely take pictures with my phone. Faster processor? Don't play games and i mostly close every app after using 'em. IPS display? Nahh i do watch some YouTube clips and i kinda prefer amoled for this sort of things. They say it has faster mobile module some report speeds up to LTE But im personally fine with gnex 7Mbps on tmobile.
Damn it, Not a single excuse to get one.. I guess GNex pretty advanced or n4 pretty much not that advanced.
What to do?
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I have a friend with a Galaxy Nexus. The first thing i noticed is that his screen is blue. It has a blue shade on it. I think it has one of the worst Amoled screens if i'm not mistaken? Second thing i noticed Nexus 4 battery life > Galaxy nexus. This is a factor i've really noticed. Most of the time i see him having to recharge after only 2 hours 15 minutes of screen on time if lucky a bit more.
The galaxy nexus is sure a fast device still IMO. It's fast, but you'll definitely see that the nexus 4 is much snappier when compared. It's not a must upgrade, but it does pay off imo. I don't see my upgrading any time soon. Then again, it depends on your location. Where i'm from this device costed me 400 euros. = 522$
If you're from the U.S or germany and have play store, you'll be getting it for 300 euros or 300 dollars? Either way, both way cheaper than the 400 euros i had to pay for the 16gb variant.
All up to you in the long run.
N4 >Gnex. Enough said.
Don't upgrade. Unless you have plenty of money to spare it's just not gonna be worth it, the upgrade in every day life usage is going to be very, very minimal. IMHO you should wait for another "generation" of the phone, which is probably happening in less than a year.
I have one, and it's a great device, but I upgraded from an HTC Desire (which is a three year old device) so it was a "woah" kind of upgrade, justifiable to some extent. But I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have upgraded if I had a GNex. Minimal, incremental changes? Ain't nobody got money fo' that.
Yeah.. Well i still got time to decide. Prices are okay i can either get it from play store or Craigslist got tons of ads for unopened $350 to $400 same as what you going to pay to Google with all taxes and shipping.
Mahnn said:
Don't upgrade. Unless you have plenty of money to spare it's just not gonna be worth it, the upgrade in every day life usage is going to be very, very minimal. IMHO you should wait for another "generation" of the phone, which is probably happening in less than a year.
I have one, and it's a great device, but I upgraded from an HTC Desire (which is a three year old device) so it was a "woah" kind of upgrade, justifiable to some extent. But I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have upgraded if I had a GNex. Minimal, incremental changes? Ain't nobody got money fo' that.
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I doubt the galaxy s 4 is going to be a woah upgrade. Honestly i feel android has becoming so advance to the point where i believe the only thing that would give me a "WOW" factor is seeing the battery life double or even better triple. Sure, android will continue to improve, but the only thing lacking nowadays is battery life. And i have the feeling with the 1080 p screens coming that the devices won't really improve battery life by much if at all. Time will tell. I came from my One x to this phone, let me tell you, there was a WOW factor there and my one x>>>>>>>>galaxy nexus - in term of battery. Fluidity as well on a custom rom.
Buy it. I had a pretty good phone already myself(Atrix HD, Snapdragon S4, JB) but couldn't resist buying the N4. There's nothing like buying a new phone, you spend your spare time customizing it and reading about it, you pull it out of your pocket constantly just to look at it.
It's freaking Magic.
I can't get over how beautiful this thing is. You should do something nice for yourself, buy this phone. You deserve it.
I sold my gal nex for almost 300 so the upgrade was almost free. You know its better just get it. And I still prefer amoled over this.
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I would do the upgrade. I came from a galaxy nexus. It was a nice device no doubt but with android 4.2 I noticed some lag using the camera on the gnex. It was very annoying. Also the screen colors were ok. But that phone is getting old and idk how much longer Google will support the latest updates since the hardware is not that great IMO. The nexus 4 feels much faster when opening the camera and other apps. Also when opening the app drawer, I like how you get the extra row of icons. Also the better hardware, camera, design, screen and the latest Google updates for a year or so is a win win IMO. Plus I sold my gnex for 260 on eBay. So it helped pay for my nexus 4 through T-Mobile.
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I sold my gal nex for almost 300 so the upgrade was almost free. You know its better just get it. And I still prefer amoled over this.
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Same for me. It was about $70 of new money so easily a no brainer. Great phone, no regrets.
That's real nice!
i'd like to hear more from people who actually switched from Gnex to N4. People who switched from other phones to N4 surely noticed the difference but i'm switching from almost identical phone.
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That's real nice!
i'd like to hear more from people who actually switched from Gnex to N4. People who switched from other phones to N4 surely noticed the difference but i'm switching from almost identical phone.
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It is not almost identical at all. I never owned a Gnex, but I have used them, and the N4 is an all-around better device.
Went from Gnex to Note 2 to N4. In my opinion, the N4 is a much better phone than the other two. Battery life, screen, snappiness...the N4 is head and shoulders above the Gnex. Taking into consideration that you can sell your Gnex and upgrade for around $100, it is a no brainer in my eyes.
yeah! How much should i sell my gnex then?>
I put mine on craigslist for $265 and had 3 people fighting over it an hour later. Had cash in hand 30 minutes after that. That's the same amount of money i had into it. It was in good condition, but not as nice as yours.
ok i ordered N4 and posted my gnex on craigslist meanwhile i'll be using my backup iPhone 4 :laugh:
Received 16gb N4. So far feels much faster and smoother than GNex. The screen noticeably feels and looks bigger. Colors are more natural than before. I like it even though everything looks the same as before(in terms of software)
Btw decided to go naked this time.. just can't resist n4's sexy design :laugh:
Ohh yeah gnex been sold for $280 on Craigslist.
Don't forget to take into consideration that the Nexus 4 does not have OTG support, but Galaxy Nexus does.
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Don't forget to take into consideration that the Nexus 4 does not have OTG support, but Galaxy Nexus does.
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Not a deal breaker... 16gb is more than enough for my needs.

What is your disappoinment about the N6?

Post your disappointments about the N6. My disappointments are as follows:
display
quality build and design
camera
no phablet features
My biggest disappointment is that I don't have it yet, even though I preordered it from Google Play, and had the earliest ship-by date they offered (11/21).
Otherwise, I can't really say (see above), but from what I'm hearing, the Ambient Display bug (accidental app activation, butt dialing, etc.) is my biggest concern. Also, the way that Google forces 3rd party apps to shutdown and lock the screen, Smart Lock is effectively disabled when using such an app (like Gravity Screen). That's a lollipop thing though, not really N6, so I'm not sure that counts.
None.
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display
quality build and design
camera
no phablet features
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So basically the only like the software.
I think you should give it to me
OP, do you own the Nexus 6? This is the second thread you've made in the Nexus 6 forums about how you don't like it. The first got shut down. I'm calling this troll bait too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2945415
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display
quality build and design
camera
no phablet features
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No offense, but it almost sounds like you didn't know what you were getting yourself into or that your expectations were based on a comparative product. . . or that you work for a manufacturer for a comparative product.
I guess he was reading the wrong thread. Android 5.0 and the nexus 6 never claimed to be the note 4 and have a bunch of "features" sorry dudes.
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Display. Over saturated and yellowish tint are not my cup of tea. Resolution and brightness are fine but I don't think I'll be able to get used to the super saturated colors and the white color balance.
Non oleophobic front glass? My nexus 5 and iPhone 6+ have screens that are much more greasyphobic than this. This guy requires constant wiping on front and back.
Battery life. Having to carry this monster around I'd rather had impressive battery life. This guy's battery life is average.
Those are my main gripes about the device. There is lots to like.
Thread lightly, I mean tread lightly with this post its soon to get closed.
So far its only that the buttons are at the middle. I prefer them at the top right
The fact that I don't have it yet.
F4M0U569 said:
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display
quality build and design
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I'll give you display and camera (even though good counter arguments can be made for either), but..
What is wrong with the build quality and design? This is one of the best designed phones lol. Do you have the device? Have you encountered any problems in build quality? Any evidence to back it up?
Phablet features like what? Multi-window? We're getting that soon. What else?
It would be nice if you could explain yourself.
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My biggest gripe isn't 100%, but I'm hoping that encryption doesn't cause the device to lag when opening apps. Oh, and lack of availability. Other than that, I'm pleased with this device.
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OP, do you own the Nexus 6? This is the second thread you've made in the Nexus 6 forums about how you don't like it. The first got shut down. I'm calling this troll bait too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2945415
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Yes I do own the phone. Else why would I make a thread ? Are you offended by what I said about the phone? Don't let my opinions hurt your feelings
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I'll give you display and camera (even though good counter arguments can be made for either), but..
What is wrong with the build quality and design? This is one of the best designed phones lol. Do you have the device? Have you encountered any problems in build quality? Any evidence to back it up?
Phablet features like what? Multi-window? We're getting that soon. What else?
It would be nice if you could explain yourself.
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My biggest gripe isn't 100%, but I'm hoping that encryption doesn't cause the device to lag when opening apps. Oh, and lack of availability. Other than that, I'm pleased with this device.
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Best designed phone according to whom? To you? Where did you read we are we getting the phablet features? Got sources?
I haven't played with one yet and I don't intend on buying until I do so maybe my opinion will change once I actually play with one -- but my biggest disappointment with the Nexus 6 is its price tag, followed by its size. This phone simply does not offer enough to justify its flagship price tag. It lacks expandable storage and removable battery which should be deducted from the price as other similarly priced flagship phones have one or both of them. Before you say, "That's been a staple with the Nexus line the entire time..." yeah, so were their undercutting prices which justified the phones not having expandable storage or removable battery. $350 for a Nexus 5 was perfectly acceptable because it lacked expandable storage and removable battery. Secondly, the Nexus line has repeatedly been plagued with shoddy cameras and battery life that are simply not on par with flagship phones, let alone any phone within their price range. I'm sure this phone takes better photos than the Nexus 5, but it does not take better photos than the Note 4 or the Xperia Z3, and definitely not the iPhone 6 (that's a tough one to beat no matter what). If this phone was priced at $450-$500, then I can justify jumping to one.
The Xperia Z3 is about the perfect size for me, but I can tolerate going as big as the Note 4. The Nexus 6 is just a mammoth of a phone, and I'm sure watching videos on it is great. But I dont buy a phone to watch videos and play games -- I have a tablet for those purposes. Additionally, with something like a phone, I'd like for it to comfortably fit in my back pockets without it sticking out and without requiring a pair of JNCOs to hold it. I carry my phone with me everywhere (as do most people), I do not want to lug around a freaking phablet everywhere. I think they should've eased into a 5.5" screen size first. Making such a huge jump is a shock to the senses, lol.
I know the phone is a great piece of hardware, but it's certainly not for me as expensive and big as it is. I'll most likely be skipping it.
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Yes I do own the phone. Else why would I make a thread ? Are you offended by what I said about the phone? Don't let my opinions hurt your feelings
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I ask because you spend a large amount of time slamming the device and praising the Note 4, in multiple threads. Usually when someone owns a device they don't dedicate so much time to dogging on it and creating multiple threads about how much they hate it. They usually sell it and go buy the device they want.
It's classic troll bait activity. That's why I ask.
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Best designed phone according to whom? To you? Where did you read we are we getting the phablet features? Got sources?
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Not only me.. most users on here and most reviews have said this phone looks good.
Source for multi-window.
Thanks for dodging my questions and replying with your own questions.
Feel free to clarify why you are disappointed with the screen, build quality, and design.
I heard that the nexus 6 can not do voice and talk simultaneously, can somebody confirm that?
I believe droid-life confirmed that on verizon
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I heard that the nexus 6 can not do voice and talk simultaneously, can somebody confirm that?
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I believe droid-life confirmed that on verizon
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That's a Verizon problem not the device
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I have nothing against the OP not liking the Nexus. I'm still waiting on mine and may not like it myself when I get it. My question is why come to a forum and create a complaint thread? I've hated many devices. I sell them and move on. It baffles me why anyone would want to hang around a forum for a device they're so unhappy with.
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