N1 vs Nexus S - Nexus One General

Which one is better and why? I'm really in need of new phone please help me.
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Depends on what you want out of an Android phone. You can't buy the Nexus One directly from Google, you can with the Nexus S though (and Best Buy). I still have the Nexus One and I really don't see myself even considering the S due to the lack of things I need (FFC is useless, plastic throws me off).

So if I buy N1 would it be upgradable to honeycomb? And is it fast compare to x10? That's what I currently have?
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the_ahmadzais said:
Which one is better and why? I'm really in need of new phone please help me.
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I have the nexus one, but if i could choose now - I'll definitely go for the Nexus S without a doubt.
The touch screen on the nexus one is abysmal. It has multiple freezing issues, and a boatload of bugs that no one is bothering to fix. It's also much slower than the S... i've had a play on my brother's S, and it's so smooth, responsive.. amazing phone.
Also, you're guaranteed to survive at least 1 Android upgrade with the Nexus S, seeing as it's the flagship google dev phone as of now. The nexus one... not sure how much longer it can go. probably a while, but that would be do to the mod community and not the official channels.
Go Nexus S and don't look back.

the_ahmadzais said:
So if I buy N1 would it be upgradable to honeycomb? And is it fast compare to x10? That's what I currently have?
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Yes it will. You are basically comparing phones with the same hardware, both 1 GHz, 480 x 800, 5 MP, capacitive buttons, etc. Updates should be reasonably quick depending on how Andy Rubin runs things.
Oh and the major difference being that the Nexus One has dual noise canceling mics, phones calls are going to be crisp and better for the person on the other end. The Nexus S has a front facing camera, once Skype gets on Android, it might take off.

I have the Nexus One and my wife has the Nexus S. Neither is rooted. I find the USER EXPERIENCE on the Nexus S to be MUCH BETTER than the Nexus One. Larger and brighter display that you can use outside. Not the fingerprint magnet the Nexus One is. Much smoother touch screen experience. And I don't know what all the fuss is about the plastic case vs the metal case. I find it very sturdy and it even feels better in your hand. It's faster at almost everything. You can even hear the speakerphone. Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus One. But if some one ask me if i would trade it for a Nexus S... Without any hesitation YES!

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And I don't know what all the fuss is about the plastic case vs the metal case.
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Fingerprinting on the battery door. If you get fingerprints all over the Nexus One battery door, I am surprised. On the Nexus S, not so much.

I had the n1 one for about a year and upgraded to the nexus s just 2 weeks ago. I find the battery life to be amazing (full day normal use) on the nexus s. The most important improvement has been the touch screen, not cause i play games, but for typing. I noticed that im making less mistakes on the nexus s and my speed has gone up substantially, i also had gingerbread on my n1.

Go with the Motorola Atrix or a new tablet.

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Go with the Motorola Atrix or a new tablet.
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Tablets are for sick people.
Both Nexus phones are great and both have their problems...but nothing is perfect!

I had the nexus S for about two weeks before I had to return it since T-Mobile service is horrible where I live.
I've gotta say that the S is better in most aspects. The screen is amazingly bright and easy to read in sunlight. The screen also registers fast typing much better, so I make a lot less mistakes.
Stock gingerbread is so fast and smooth.
However I didn't like the glossy plastic construction on the NS. It was a fingerprint magnet. Also, the quality control on new units were terrible.
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the only thing that I keep N1 is to stay with T-Mobile $5.99 old unlimited data plan.

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nexus problems vs mt4g

So I'm debating trading in my mt4g for the nexus. I picked it up a couple weeks ago and i'm not 100% sure I'm sold on it.
I got one with a washed out screen. so thats a negative. also the battery life sucks. I found I dont do as much web surfing as I thought I might, so 4g is becoming a little more moot...
So I know the positives about the nexus. (screen, 2.3, fast updates and Dev support)
I'm wondering about the negatives. There has to be some. Right? hows battery life? does the phone feel cheap/ or creek?
Please let me know and be honest I would like to be sure if i'm to trade it in. Thank you.
Eppidemic said:
So I'm debating trading in my mt4g for the nexus. I picked it up a couple weeks ago and i'm not 100% sure I'm sold on it.
I got one with a washed out screen. so thats a negative. also the battery life sucks. I found I dont do as much web surfing as I thought I might, so 4g is becoming a little more moot...
So I know the positives about the nexus. (screen, 2.3, fast updates and Dev support)
I'm wondering about the negatives. There has to be some. Right? hows battery life? does the phone feel cheap/ or creek?
Please let me know and be honest I would like to be sure if i'm to trade it in. Thank you.
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I hate doing this to people, but please use the search function, there have been sooo many threads like this its hard to take a new one serious
if ur nitpicky, keep the mytouch.
I went to play w/ the MT4G for the first time about a week after I got my Nexus S and i must say that its looks like a piece of trash compared to my MT4G. Glad I waited for it. Just my Amoled screen is enough to make me look down on that mytouch. I love HTC but....
MT4G looks ugly, I mean very ugly imho. Nexus s is way better looking. If I can get flexibilty and awesomeness of android in a very nice looking phone, I'm in. MT4G is ugly especially that earpice.
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Ive said it over and over again, I rather take ontime updates over the look of something
My touch is a horrible android experience. Get rid of it and get any other android phone.
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So would anyone care to name off some of the problems that have been reported with the NS? I might not care about some features the NS might have vs the mt4g. I'm interested in hardware and physical problems like barry or screen issues. Things like that...
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I have nexus s and my wife has the mt4g. It's all on what u prefer. I had the nexus one and want to continue with nexus. The mt4g isn't bad though.
Believers b3ar fruit with their Nexus S.....
I have used both for a good week, both have pretty bad battery life, I web browse and listen to music, go on YouTube make phone calls and text all over 3g and with wifi, I think the Nexus S has better battery life, besides the wifi tether issue ( there is usually an error after you enable it, still worms but not very responsively). I am sold more on the Nexus just cause I love the cameras, both cameras are really nice. HTC boasts about 10 MP and 8 MP, but I would rather have a 5 MP Samsung camera than a 12 MP HTC camera. In the end, we all know HYC will abandon it for a good couple of months until the next update is announced, then they will give it Gingerbread( my assumption by the way). While the Nexus S is great, don't give up your device just to get it... not worth the trouble, especially since both devices will be outdated in a few weeks. Wait for a better device before going through the trouble. If you really want the latest Google Android OS, go for the Nexus, and stick with it until the next big Google device in the future.
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The nexus is missing some of the more popular video coddecs and there are issues with the keyboard when you're typing fast, but awesome phone is awesome and I'd rather have it than mt4g.
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Honestly, the Nexus S feels like a big rushed project. Lack of basics like SD, notification LED, and HSPA+ just make you scratch your head. Sure, it's a sexy device, and the curved glass and SAMOLED are almost enough to make you ignore these flaws, but it isn't worth it to me. In my opinion, the Nexus S is in the same "generation" as the MT4G, and both will be outdated shortly. I recommend keeping the cheaper of the two and just getting a new device when the next generation of Android devices arrives this spring.
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Should I buy a Nexus 4?

Hey,
I have had my one x since release day, but now it is in a bad way.
The screen has become partially delaminated, allowing dirt into the screen and causing a section of the touch screen to not function. The back is also very scratched.
Assuming I can do the repair myself, the parts would cost around £115.
My question is, should I get a nexus 4 or would I be in any way downgrading?
I could do my best to disguise the problems (clean under screen and reseal) and I might get around £150 from a recycling company.
A few things to note are that I love stock android and the idea of getting updates almost instantly.
I also don't think I would need more than 16gb given the use of Google drive and 35gb of Dropbox.
I do however love my phones screen and the community for the One X.
Anyway, I would love to hear people's opinions and have discussions about this as choosing my phone is one of the most important decisions I have to make haha.
ORStoner
Inspite of its design shortcuts and glass back, the n4 is a good deal.
If your device is shot, I'd say get one.
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I'm not sure whether I like the idea of a glass back. To be honest, whilst the plastic on my phone is battered the screen is still completely pristine.
Unless it is found to be super fragile, I would welcome the addition of more glass.
Does anyone know how the screen on the n4 compares to the one X?
It's on par with the X, it beats it in certain areas vice versa but One X probably has the better screen that's not saying the IPS on the N4 is bad as it's just as good.
However you lose a bit of screen estate due to the on screen buttons.
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It's on par with the X, it beats it in certain areas vice versa but One X probably has the better screen that's not saying the IPS on the N4 is bad as it's just as good.
However you lose a bit of screen estate due to the on screen buttons.
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On par nikz.....?
S4Pro destroys our T3 in both CPU and GPU.
plus a 2100 battery for 28nm chip, whereas our HOX is 1800 with 40nm
42mbps HSDPA+
GPS with GLONASS support.
Stock fast updates
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I was answering his question regarding the screens
But yes, hardware wise it does put our One X to shame only the screen is probably better, better camera and more storage and Sense are probably the only benefits the HOX offers.
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chrisjcks said:
On par nikz.....?
S4Pro destroys our T3 in both CPU and GPU.
plus a 2100 battery for 28nm chip, whereas our HOX is 1800 with 40nm
42mbps HSDPA+
GPS with GLONASS support.
Stock fast updates
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He was talking about the screen
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I was answering his question regarding the screens
But yes, hardware wise it does put our One X to shame only the screen is probably better, better camera and more storage and Sense are probably the only benefits the HOX offers.
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The camera was going to be my next question. The one x camera disappointed me a bit due to all the claims htc made at mwc, are you suggesting the n4 is not as good?
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ORStoner said:
The camera was going to be my next question. The one x camera disappointed me a bit due to all the claims htc made at mwc, are you suggesting the n4 is not as good?
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Yes most of the reviews state its not as good as all the other phones. But it's decent according to the reviews. Just check out the sample shots on various sites and see if you can live with the results.
One X camera isn't bad at all for a mobile device, the Nokia 920 and iphone 5 beat the HOX camera.
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I think I have just two more questions. When will it stop receiving updates first? Does the nexus s or galaxy nexus still get updates first or do they have to wait?
Also, how easy it to to root and install kernels etc? The one was a hassle and I had to void my warranty.
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ORStoner said:
I think I have just two more questions. When will it stop receiving updates first? Does the nexus s or galaxy nexus still get updates first or do they have to wait?
Also, how easy it to to root and install kernels etc? The one was a hassle and I had to void my warranty.
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Not sure about the first question as I've never had a Nexus device but I'm sure they are still getting updates.
Unlocking a Nexus device is the most simplest simple command and your done, so it should be a breeze installing roms and kernels and shouldn't affect warranty like the HOX does I believe as it's a developers phone end of the day.
I for one will be getting one to try out hopefully on release day if permitting. Getting a bit angry with the HOX battery life it can last me through the day but when I start using it dies quickly.
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chrisjcks said:
On par nikz.....?
S4Pro destroys our T3 in both CPU and GPU.
plus a 2100 battery for 28nm chip, whereas our HOX is 1800 with 40nm
42mbps HSDPA+
GPS with GLONASS support.
Stock fast updates
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Good point. The battery will be much better on the N4 since it's a 28nm cpu.
Well honestly.. You seem to have a rugged lifestyle, or is real rough on your phones. I would suggest you get something more like the Casio commando phone.
I don't think the n4 would be good for kids in school, or anything that could possibly harm a glass bodied phone.
But as a backup, out going out phone, sure. Plus the price is right, and wouldn't hurt you too bad if you are stuck in a contract.
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I usually keep better care of my devices, I was just hit by a car on my bike and it fell out of my pocket. It was in a case but it came of during the crash.
Douchebag whoever hit you hope your well though, get them to buy you a new phone
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Douchebag whoever hit you hope your well though, get them to buy you a new phone
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I'm fine. They drove off though
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ORStoner said:
I usually keep better care of my devices, I was just hit by a car on my bike and it fell out of my pocket. It was in a case but it came of during the crash.
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I honestly couldn't suggest it, if you do a lot of bike riding, or if it's you're main source of transportation.
You Europeans do a lot more bike riding than us lazy Americans though, I think the price of gas has a lot to do with it.
I remember when I bought my evo, I was floored when I found out that someone in the UK basically paid double what I did, after vat.
My sensation would be great for bike riding, since the gorilla glass screen curves inward to avoid scratches, and the battery cover is the whole phone case, just get a new one for 30 bucks when the old one gets scuffed up. Battery life is meh, though.
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I honestly couldn't suggest it, if you do a lot of bike riding, or if it's you're main source of transportation.
You Europeans do a lot more bike riding than us lazy Americans though, I think the price of gas has a lot to do with it.
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Bah. I'm American, and I ride 3+ miles a day.
Do live in NYC tho. Def get a good case for your phone if you ride.
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so.... should I buy or shouldn't I......
Hello all!
Question - As far as I understood - Menu Buttons are on-screen.
That means Menu Buttons are taking a lil' of the 4,7 inch screen?????, so that actually the usable screen without buttons is smthng like 4,6 or so?
Or rephrased:
Is the usable part of screen bigger in the case of the HOX than in Nexus 4?
I don't know what to do to be honest.... i could sell my hox for smthing like nearly 350 Euros, and hopefully i would get a Nexus 4 for it....
But is it really worth???
Pluses of the HOX in my opinion over the Nexus:
1. Sense
2. Screen + Camera
3. Beats Equalizer
4. HOX community
Now... I would change it for a Nexus 4 for the following reasons:
1. Updates directly from Google
2. Phone designed together with google, so it will be their hardware reference when google issues an android upgrade
3. Design (Glass-back)
4. 2gb of RAM and better processor
Now, to be honest I miss iOS in terms of buttery user interface, clean interface, no force-closes, etc.
I don't want to switch again to iOS, but it would be nice to find something alike in an android....
I had the best experience with the HOX for a sense ROM, and with i9100 a very fine experience with CM9.
I am searching for THE Android device.... Is Nexus it?
If not, then I would bet on the next flagship from HTC (not the HOX+, but the next one).
Samsung is totally out of the question due to it's cheap recycled-plastic design!
kreindler said:
Hello all!
Question - As far as I understood - Menu Buttons are on-screen.
That means Menu Buttons are taking a lil' of the 4,7 inch screen?????, so that actually the usable screen without buttons is smthng like 4,6 or so?
Or rephrased:
Is the usable part of screen bigger in the case of the HOX than in Nexus 4?
I don't know what to do to be honest.... i could sell my hox for smthing like nearly 350 Euros, and hopefully i would get a Nexus 4 for it....
But is it really worth???
Pluses of the HOX in my opinion over the Nexus:
1. Sense
2. Screen + Camera
3. Beats Equalizer
4. HOX community
Now... I would change it for a Nexus 4 for the following reasons:
1. Updates directly from Google
2. Phone designed together with google, so it will be their hardware reference when google issues an android upgrade
3. Design (Glass-back)
4. 2gb of RAM and better processor
Now, to be honest I miss iOS in terms of buttery user interface, clean interface, no force-closes, etc.
I don't want to switch again to iOS, but it would be nice to find something alike in an android....
I had the best experience with the HOX for a sense ROM, and with i9100 a very fine experience with CM9.
I am searching for THE Android device.... Is Nexus it?
If not, then I would bet on the next flagship from HTC (not the HOX+, but the next one).
Samsung is totally out of the question due to it's cheap recycled-plastic design!
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Kinda have to comment on this. I can GUARANTEE you that within a month or so the Nexus will have better community support, its 75% of the reason i got rid of my HOX and went back to my old Galaxy S. Granted the HOX community is much more established now, but nothing beats Nexus devices for community and devs and so on.

Is it actually worth it?

I'm considering the nexus as my replacement for my HTC one x. Is it worth it as it costs 4398 HKD ~550USD here?
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I would say the Nexus 4 is extremely worth it. Every £ spent without regret.
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I don't know if it's THAT much of a step up from a One X...I might actually prefer my One X+ to the N4...but that's still up for some testing, but right now I'm leaning towards the OX+.
Nexus 4 isn't really much of a hardware upgrade, if any, but it enjoys unprecedented firmware support. Good luck getting any new versions of android on the one x. If you want your updates quickly then the nexus it's the only choice.
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I went from the HTC One X to the Nexus 4...
Eh
I don't think it is a huge step up from the One X. The processor may be faster but the S4 in the One X is mighty quick in its own right. You barely even notice the extra gig of RAM too. I don't know how gaming is affected because i barely ever game on my smartphone so i wont comment on that aspect. I'm in Canada so i get LTE on my Nexus 4 but the One X had LTE too so no change there. Both have 16gb of space. The recovery is a preference issue as i prefer the CWM to TWRP which the One X needs to use (CWM doesn't run properly on it).
Camera is downright a thing i miss though. The One X has a fantastic camera better than the Nexus, hell its better than most any other smartphone. And the screen itself is far better than anything on the market (Nexus 4's is not as bright). Its blacks were far darker than the Nexus. But neither are as nice as an AMOLED screen.
The physical feel is also a personal preference where i loved the polycarbonate soft touch feel of the One X over the glass of the Nexus. I never used a case with the One X whereas with the Nexus i need one. The unibody construction HTC has got down to an art...i hope the next nexus is an HTC (or a Sony but that's another topic).
There are many issues but if i had to go back and give myself advice i would tell me to stick to the One X.
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I've got both and I prefer the One X the screen is much better, camera is much better, Sense has some excellent features missing on stock android. Both are good phones though, if you want the latest software stick with the Nexus but if you enjoy Sense and that stick with the One X.
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Deus_eps_machina said:
I went from the HTC One X to the Nexus 4...
Eh
I don't think it is a huge step up from the One X. The processor may be faster but the S4 in the One X is mighty quick in its own right. You barely even notice the extra gig of RAM too. I don't know how gaming is affected because i barely ever game on my smartphone so i wont comment on that aspect. I'm in Canada so i get LTE on my Nexus 4 but the One X had LTE too so no change there. Both have 16gb of space. The recovery is a preference issue as i prefer the CWM to TWRP which the One X needs to use (CWM doesn't run properly on it).
Camera is downright a thing i miss though. The One X has a fantastic camera better than the Nexus, hell its better than most any other smartphone. And the screen itself is far better than anything on the market (Nexus 4's is not as bright). Its blacks were far darker than the Nexus. But neither are as nice as an AMOLED screen.
The physical feel is also a personal preference where i loved the polycarbonate soft touch feel of the One X over the glass of the Nexus. I never used a case with the One X whereas with the Nexus i need one. The unibody construction HTC has got down to an art...i hope the next nexus is an HTC (or a Sony but that's another topic).
There are many issues but if i had to go back and give myself advice i would tell me to stick to the One X.
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I'm using the international variant of the One X, with Tegra 3. Most Gameloft games are either incompatible or running badly, and the CPU governor is to powersaving. However, I do love Sense, but I don't like the speed of updates as well and I game a lot. The 16 GBs aren't really that much so I'm really thinking about it since I will trade in my One X for the Nexus 4.
You just making this thread is just simply making an excuse to justify upgrading so you don't feel as bad for spending money towards a new phone.
Don't think about it, just be about it and buy it. Otherwise you're just going to be obsessed about it and end up buying the phone two weeks later. It always happens to me, "I will not do it" but yet I keep looking at the forums and look what happens..... It happened.
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I dont understand why this thread was made.....
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I dont understand why this thread was made.....
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No idea. In psychology class I learned people make threads like this to justify their purchases because they feel better about themselves for whatever purchases they make that aren't necessarily a necessity purchase.
If you want the phone, buy it. We shouldn't have to convince you otherwise. It's as simple as that. Do your own research and determine what you want. If you made the thread in the Galaxy S3 forums with the same posting, they'd tell you to get the S3. All you're going to get here are biased posts. It's one sided, op wants to feel better and more confident in his purchase
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ever hear of the saying 'you get what you pay for'? there is a reason this phone is only 300 bucks. if you are paying 550 equivalent.... you dont want this phone over the hox.
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No idea. In psychology class I learned people make threads like this to justify their purchases because they feel better about themselves for whatever purchases they make that aren't necessarily a necessity purchase.
If you want the phone, buy it. We shouldn't have to convince you otherwise. It's as simple as that. Do your own research and determine what you want. If you made the thread in the Galaxy S3 forums with the same posting, they'd tell you to get the S3. All you're going to get here are biased posts. It's one sided, op wants to feel better and more confident in his purchase
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Well, TBH, some people did say not to get the N4 as the HOX is almost the same/better. I'm not gonna get it as its freaking expensive and from what I know has some serious GPU throttling issues.
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Well, TBH, some people did say not to get the N4 as the HOX is almost the same/better. I'm not gonna get it as its freaking expensive and from what I know has some serious GPU throttling issues.
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"SOME" ....... it's like going to a gang territory, "is this gang better than THIS OTHER GANG?"
are the gangsters going to say that the other gang is better? hell no... they would obviously say theirs is the best to have more members. its biased and common sense. if i was going to post in the one x forum saying, one x or gs3? one x or n4? ... they would say one x.
you're paying more than what the phone is sold for, $299-$349 is the default price via Google Play. if you buy it from eBay / etc, its ~$529ish as any other off contract device.
GPU throttling issue: it isnt an issue. its done that way by default as it is on the Galaxy Nexus. who cares about benchmarks. just DO WHAT YOU WANT / LIKE. if you like your one x, then stick with it. just at the origination of your OP post you didnt like the one x.
its really YOUR decision and none of ours. im not going to beg you to get the phone, its your decision and your money. spend it how you like, that's all i have to say. i dont get any of these "worth it" threads. its obviously something thats going on in your head. if you're looking for opinions then read reviews about the phone or use the search feature and look up people's reviews / opinions about the phone in 10+ other threads before having to make your own for attention on whether you should get it or not.
The Nexus 4 is just a much better device than the HOX, even if they were both the same price. I honestly haven't looked back and am so glad I sold it to cover the cost of my Nexus. Things I don't miss about my One X:
Awful battery life - I get 5 hours on screen time with my Nexus and easily lasts a day, my One X was dead at about 2 hours screen time and needed to be charged twice a day at least.
The heat/ Tegra 3 - Tegra is just an awful CPU end of. My One X would get so hot from general use, JUST listening to music with the phone turned off 45C, browsing 50C, playing games 50C+. My Nexus doesn't hit more than 35C normal use and 40C under heavy use.
The lag - Sense as a launcher is laggy, but I fixed that with Apex, but even then it wasn't buttery smooth around the OS. So I installed a JB CN10 ROM and it was pretty much buttery smooth. However after using the nexus 4 for a bit and you notice what real speed and smoothness is about.
Multitasking - Plain and simple, the One X cant really multi task. It's a mess. Just watching app redraws constantly got annoying. What I will say is that having the soft keys has increased the amount of times I use the task switcher because it's so effortless and smooth. This is probably something you won't appreciate till you have soft keys.
Locked bootloader - Yes you can unlock it, but through HTC so it means that HTC can simply wave away your warranty now.
There are good things about the One X, it's screen is still the best and depending on preference the design is nice. However comparing them side to side one thing is obvious, the Nexus looks and feels like a grown ups premium device, the sort of feeling you get when hold an iphone (I think we all get that feeling, lets not deny it).The One X is designed very well, and best out of other android devices, but you never get the premium feel. Also the camera on the Nexus 4 so far, has been pretty much garbage under low light conditions.
Only, and I really mean this, keep the One X if you really like HTC sense!
The only reason I would suggest making that jump is if you REALLY want a Nexus for the great platform openness. The One X is a good phone still.

[Q] Nexus 4 - Am I making a mistake?

I am an avid fan of the Samsung S series of phones. I've had a few and to date think the S3 is the best they've done so far (S4 notwithstanding). But, I love the Google Nexus series of phones and have owned one, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I purchased the Nexus 4 on Saturday from Google and I cannot wait to get it. I love the bareness of the Nexus line. I love Android in its stock form. Thing is, I'm going from one of the best selling phones to a midlevel device. Am I making a mistake doing this? What am I loosing? Currently, we do have LTE in our area but it's sucking the heck out of my battery on the S3 so I'm not concerned if the N4 has no LTE. Am I gaining anything from going to the N4? Is the camera good enough? What about the sound on it - it sucked moose butt on the SGN!
I'm hoping for some comments and opinions that will help me in evaluating this latest purchase and what to expect. Thanks guys:good:
Mid-level? You do realize a quad core chip and 2gb of ram make this a high-level device as for lte I personally don't use it and camera is better then the galaxy nexus but isn't the best obviously for the price speakers do fine as well
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Wait until the 15th this month, there is a revised Nexus 4 to be released that should support full LTE, 32 GB of storage and maybe other upgrades. For the current one i`am very happy with it, the camera is a bit less than in the S3, but the cpu and gpu are much better. The screen is fantastic, bright, crisp and a good vieuwing angles. For me it is an upgrade compared to the S3 or even the S4 (wich i`am gona skip for sure). The N4 has no bloatware and great development. And for a very good price.
BTW the N4 is not mid level
Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.
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Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.
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The internal storage of the Galaxy S4 is 16GB and 7GB is for the OS and lots and lots of gimmicks/bloatware/crap. 9GB available for the user We on the N4 have about 13GB left.
I don't think branding the N4 as a mid level device is correct or at least in my opinion. Perhaps it's the price tag that makes it "mid level" or whatever the reason is, the Nexus 4 is more of a high end device for cheap.
I bought a brand new GS3 from a friend a few weeks ago and I don't like it anymore. It was a good idea I didn't get it last year when it came out. I'm gonna sell it...
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Yeah, the N4 is a high-end phone for a mid-range price. Absolute bargain.
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Its odd the “mid range" stigma that's put on the N4 by average consumer, even here at xda. I've seen hundreds of post from various forums or sites in the comments with people calling it that and ironically they are Galaxy users who usually say things like this poster also did about the UI being sluggish while confidently calling the S a high end device lol. OP glad you got the N4, you'll be more than satisfied I believe, you'll read a bunch of complaints on here, but like absolutely any other phone available if you read enough threads on here people will have funky devices or just nit picky problems. UI is awesome, storage is pretty sufficient, OS barely uses any space, I have probably 1000 pics, 30 albums and maybe 50 apps including CSR Racing which is large and have about 4.5gigs free. Lacking LTE maybe an issue for some, but honestly I think it becomes a feature option issue for most, the inability to claim LTE rights amongst other phone users lol, I'm on T-Mobile and live in Philadelphia, my data is always fast, in most real world scenarios as fast as my boys DNA, and as fast as my brother in laws S3 on AT&T. Camera is another issue for some, not for others, look on the pic from n4 thread, when you work at it, the phone is capable of taking some amazing shots, on the fly pull your phone out and snap can be hit or miss but why some people expect or even need their phone to be art gallery worthy pics I don't know lol. Speaker, is well a speaker, I can hear when I need to, but all this talk of the HTC having "boom" sound and dual speakers for what? If I wanna host a mini rave with my phone? Lol I just don't see the real world use for it. Summing it up, everyone that has touched my N4 since I got it, users of iPhone, S phones and even my cousin who still won't let BlackBerry die has loved this phone after spending as little as 10 minutes with it. Feels great in the hand, UI is always snappy, screen is crisp.
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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.
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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.
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I'd agree with putting on a back glass protector. If anything the Nexus is a more high-end phone than the S3 tbh, the S4 Pro trumps the Exynos; 2GB RAM > 1, the screen is at a higher resolution and the build feels more premium than the S3. The only reason it's sometimes called a mid range phone is because of the price. There also seems to be a lot of hate for it on the internet though, which is odd because everyone I know who has one likes it. I think that it's only because loads of people wanted one but had huge delays when ordering it.
A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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Slim but tough is what I'd want in a case. Know which is best?
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A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.
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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.
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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.
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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.
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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?
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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?
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I don't have the XDA case. I don't like the color and design.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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If you want the rearth ringke fusion case I can give it to you for free if you live in the U.S. I don't need it. It's just sitting in my desk drawer not being used.
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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The S4 is 850-900 USD in the Netherlands off contract
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Well either way the S3/S4 are high-end devices. I doubt the Nexus 4 beats the both devices. The S4 has a newer CPU and it's software features are awesome in my opinion.
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[Q] HTC Sensation 4G or Nexus 4?

Dear gang, hope all of you are doing well. I need your expert opinion on something. I love my HTC Sensation 4G. Got two batteries for it, a dock, and i am always blown away by its camera. It sometimes lags (especillay when on 4g and out in the real world), but nothing that I cannot accept. The maps is glitchy as well, and I cannot use the old format after using the newer version. I have used AOSP, Carbon rom, MIUI, you name it, I have tried it.
Having said that, I just got a 16 GB Nexus 4 for 160$ from someone in 9.5/10 condition. with a good rubber case. Its fully functional, I checked. And this is where I am confused.
Should I keep the sensation 4g and sell the Nexus 4 for upto 250$ or more. Or sell the sensation 4g? My main use is social networking and using google maps etc. Which phone has the better camera? Nexus 4 or Sensation? (I feel like the Sensation 8mp is less noisy vs nexus 4 camera. please advise)
Hope to hear your thoughts on this query. Thank you for taking the time to read this. May all your devices keep running happily. :cyclops::angel:
ib.ch said:
Dear gang, hope all of you are doing well. I need your expert opinion on something. I love my HTC Sensation 4G. Got two batteries for it, a dock, and i am always blown away by its camera. It sometimes lags (especillay when on 4g and out in the real world), but nothing that I cannot accept. The maps is glitchy as well, and I cannot use the old format after using the newer version. I have used AOSP, Carbon rom, MIUI, you name it, I have tried it.
Having said that, I just got a 16 GB Nexus 4 for 160$ from someone in 9.5/10 condition. with a good rubber case. Its fully functional, I checked. And this is where I am confused.
Should I keep the sensation 4g and sell the Nexus 4 for upto 250$ or more. Or sell the sensation 4g? My main use is social networking and using google maps etc. Which phone has the better camera? Nexus 4 or Sensation? (I feel like the Sensation 8mp is less noisy vs nexus 4 camera. please advise)
Hope to hear your thoughts on this query. Thank you for taking the time to read this. May all your devices keep running happily. :cyclops::angel:
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If you are willing to root and flash custom rom it is worth to keep the N4, for the camera you can use other cameras (Focal,Snap) and battery life should be 3-4 SOT (but depends (I can get 7)), however without root N4 overheats and the battery is 3 hours tops (usually 2.5)
ib.ch said:
Dear gang, hope all of you are doing well. I need your expert opinion on something. I love my HTC Sensation 4G. Got two batteries for it, a dock, and i am always blown away by its camera. It sometimes lags (especillay when on 4g and out in the real world), but nothing that I cannot accept. The maps is glitchy as well, and I cannot use the old format after using the newer version. I have used AOSP, Carbon rom, MIUI, you name it, I have tried it.
Having said that, I just got a 16 GB Nexus 4 for 160$ from someone in 9.5/10 condition. with a good rubber case. Its fully functional, I checked. And this is where I am confused.
Should I keep the sensation 4g and sell the Nexus 4 for upto 250$ or more. Or sell the sensation 4g? My main use is social networking and using google maps etc. Which phone has the better camera? Nexus 4 or Sensation? (I feel like the Sensation 8mp is less noisy vs nexus 4 camera. please advise)
Hope to hear your thoughts on this query. Thank you for taking the time to read this. May all your devices keep running happily. :cyclops::angel:
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Hands down sell the Sensation. I owned one and the LCD panels they use in that phone are atrocious. Worst ghosting and refresh rate problems I've ever seen plus horrible viewing angles. The specs on the two phones speak for themselves. You won't regret it
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corwest said:
Hands down sell the Sensation. I owned one and the LCD panels they use in that phone are atrocious. Worst ghosting and refresh rate problems I've ever seen plus horrible viewing angles. The specs on the two phones speak for themselves. You won't regret it
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And what is your take on the cameras sir? Is the Nexus 4 camera satisfying? Thank you for replying.
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If you are willing to root and flash custom rom it is worth to keep the N4, for the camera you can use other cameras (Focal,Snap) and battery life should be 3-4 SOT (but depends (I can get 7)), however without root N4 overheats and the battery is 3 hours tops (usually 2.5)
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And the camera for nexus 4? is it better with Focal? Thank you for replying
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And the camera for nexus 4? is it better with Focal? Thank you for replying
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personally I find it ok (almost the same) for better quality and free camera360 and LenovoSuperCamera (it is ported from Lenovo rom) I find them better for dark room photos, btw I don't know if it is the custom rom or the fact of the update to 4.2.2 and 4.3 (I rooted my phone after a week from when I got it) but I think the photo quality improved a lot with the updates (or the custom rom improvements I really don't know). But Personally I think it is not bad camera PM me and I will send you photos
What? Sensation? Never heard of that.
I hated my Sensation, was not as good as the my touch 4G. Anyway get the Nexus 4, or wait for the 5.
Why I hated Sensation:
Slow data speeds
Bad battery life
SLOW dual core, felt worse than the single cores in my Sig
Dust under the screen issue, hard to stop
Needs more RAM
Why I prefer nexus 4:
Development/support
Faster, much, like Krillin vs Ss3 goku
Better design, larger screen, etc
LTE on T-Mobile
Glass back is sparkly
Great battery
GPS has been reliable for times I needed it
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ib.ch said:
And the camera for nexus 4? is it better with Focal? Thank you for replying
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There are plenty of online samples of the Nexus 4 camera shots, just check them out for yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2000602
Nexus 4 absolutely. Trust us... this phone is great (although there is allways something which is not perfect and people is too demanding IMO) and kit-kat is soon
I too came from the sensation 4g. Wouldn't go back for anything.
When it comes to camera they both have an 8 megapixel rear camera and I don't notice much difference. The N4 has a better front camera.
mess around with them both for a few days. See which one "feels" best for you.
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ofc n4!!! also my n4 doesn't even get warm when gaming i have no idea why they call it overhead 0_0
its awesome NOO battery life problem!! and come on n4 i so much more powerful better screen but still sensation is incredible too (not htc incredible)
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ib.ch said:
Dear gang, hope all of you are doing well. I need your expert opinion on something. I love my HTC Sensation 4G. Got two batteries for it, a dock, and i am always blown away by its camera. It sometimes lags (especillay when on 4g and out in the real world), but nothing that I cannot accept. The maps is glitchy as well, and I cannot use the old format after using the newer version. I have used AOSP, Carbon rom, MIUI, you name it, I have tried it.
Having said that, I just got a 16 GB Nexus 4 for 160$ from someone in 9.5/10 condition. with a good rubber case. Its fully functional, I checked. And this is where I am confused.
Should I keep the sensation 4g and sell the Nexus 4 for upto 250$ or more. Or sell the sensation 4g? My main use is social networking and using google maps etc. Which phone has the better camera? Nexus 4 or Sensation? (I feel like the Sensation 8mp is less noisy vs nexus 4 camera. please advise)
Hope to hear your thoughts on this query. Thank you for taking the time to read this. May all your devices keep running happily. :cyclops::angel:
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sorry. keep sensation i say get n5 i would probably do that!!!! great idea
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And what is your take on the cameras sir? Is the Nexus 4 camera satisfying? Thank you for replying.
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Both cameras are meh. Neither have good low light quality but in good light they are pretty good. N4 being a little better to me.
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I had the sensation and I would never go back to it. The nexus 4 is astonishing and a completely different phone but never the less instant updates for n4 and not for the sensation and things the devs can do is amazing.
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I've had both - own a N4 now - though I thoroughly enjoyed my Sensation, I'll never buy another non-Nexus device ever again.
This is the first time I have NOT run a custom ROM on my device. 4.3 has been very good for me in terms of stability and battery life. The camera is okay - its not going to replace my DSLR, but for quick shots with decent lighting, it definitely gets the job done.
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