This maybe early but I know it was done for AT&T Note 2, where the radio was enabled for use on T-mobile.
Does it seem likely for Samsung S4?
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joogle said:
This maybe early but I know it was done for AT&T Note 2, where the radio was enabled for use on T-mobile.
Does it seem likely for Samsung S4?
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Once the bootloader is unlocked...most likely. This has been the case for the T-mobile/AT&T variants that have had the same hardware (Note 2, Skyrocket, SGS3).
Depending on where you are you can catch 4g. In tampa florida I get 4g in some area with the tmobile/att shared band
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Once the bootloader is unlocked...most likely. This has been the case for the T-mobile/AT&T variants that have had the same hardware (Note 2, Skyrocket, SGS3).
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The Canadian Version SGH-i337m (similar to AT&T) is bootloader unlocked. Can you please suggest how can attempt to do this. I will be getting my phone in couple of days.
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The Canadian Version SGH-i337m (similar to AT&T) is bootloader unlocked. Can you please suggest how can attempt to do this. I will be getting my phone in couple of days.
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You will probably have to wait until a dev makes a zip. Here is a link to the thread on how to do it for the Note 2. THIS WILL NOT work for your S4, but I'm sure something similar will come along.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
Are T-Mobile bands supported at the hardware level on the AT&T model? I guess my question is, will flashing a T-Mobile radio on an AT&T GS4 allow it to use all of T-Mobile's LTE bands, or just the two bands that are shared between the two? If the two phones are really the same at the hardware level it would mean the same frequencies are supported and just that some are disabled in the modem firmware of the AT&T version.
Search is not working and I couldn't see any posts answering this question directly.
Not sure. I unlocked my phone early this morning to try it out and can't get more than EDGE with my T-Mobile sim
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For anyone who may be interested in this, it seems both the AT&T and the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 have in fact the exact same hardware board. This can be seen in minute 48:00 of the AT&T SGS4 teardown video by Adam Outler. More information on this on this thread.
It seems there is hope for enabling all the bands of the T-Mobile version on this device after all.
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Just curious what kind of speed (download and upload) are people getting on AT&T using the N7100?
Screen capture of the speed test would be very appreciated.
Thanks!!
I'm in southern California
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Just curious what kind of speed (download and upload) are people getting on AT&T using the N7100?
Screen capture of the speed test would be very appreciated.
Thanks!!
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seems like you have AT&T, you might want to just want the 5 days for the LTE version
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seems like you have AT&T, you might want to just want the 5 days for the LTE version
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This right here is the only reason I'm interested in the AT&T Note 2.
Scythe024 said:
seems like you have AT&T, you might want to just want the 5 days for the LTE version
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So far there's no sign of the white version for ATT. And updates seem to be much slower getting to ATT phones. I have the ATT Galaxy S3 and no Jelly Bean yet. That's why I'm considering the international version instead. Plus there's a good deal on newegg now for 589.
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So far there's no sign of the white version for ATT. And updates seem to be much slower getting to ATT phones. I have the ATT Galaxy S3 and no Jelly Bean yet. That's why I'm considering the international version instead. Plus there's a good deal on newegg now for 589.
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You should read through the link in my post above you...
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You should read through the link in my post above you...
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so you CAN run a international rom then just flash a at&t modem?
Anybody else with speed test results?
Thanks!!
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so you CAN run a international rom then just flash a at&t modem?
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I'm not sure yet. That's why I started that other thread. It's my theory and hope that you can flash international firmware onto (some) of the domestic North American Note 2's (including Canadian versions).
Just as an example, and I think I may have briefly touch on this in the other thread, take a look at the original Galaxy Tab (7 inch).
The international version of that device, available everywhere else around the world, was able to function as a phone out of the box.
The domestic carrier versions of the same device did not offer phone functionality at all, and were basically locked down, pay-as-you-go only, data-only, worthless (but expensive) pieces of crap! Unfortunately, if you had a CDMA version (Sprint, Verizon, US Cellular, etc.), you were totally out of luck, because the chipsets were different (or at least the modem firmware), and not compatible with the international firmware. However, the GSM US models were an exception, especially the AT&T version, and here's why:
With the very slight exception of the T-Mobile version (which used a custom UMTS modem for its own 1700mhz AWS band), the North American GSM Galaxy Tab's had -exactly- the same hardware, transistor for transistor. As such, if you bought an AT&T branded Tab (as I did), and you didn't like your carrier dictating to you what features you could or couldn't have on your device (which I didn't), you could give them a big fat middle finger by simply flashing the international firmware in all its unlocked feature-full glory.
With the T-Mobile version, it was slightly different due to the custom modem. If you simply flashed the international firmware and just left it at that, phone functionality would work fine, but you wouldn't have 3G functionality (because the international firmware didn't support 1700mhz AWS), so you'd be stuck on EDGE. However, if you wanted 3G, all you had to do was use Mobile Odin to flash the T-Mobile specific modem.bin, and off you went (minus working phone functionality). You had to flip flop between two modems, depending on your needs, but it was an OK workaround.
So anyway, this all gets me back to the Note 2 of today. As I mention in the other thread, seeing as how the North American Note 2's are almost identical to their international counterparts, with the major exceptions being the radio hardware and modem firmware, shouldn't it then be possible to get international firmware working on a domestic version?
The first step would be to see if you could even flash international firmware onto a domestic Note 2 and get the thing to even boot up.
Assuming that's possible, and say you have limited cellular functionality (if any at all!), with perhaps only WiFi working or something, then the next step would be to extract the modem.bin from the carrier-specific firmware, and then flash that over the international firmware.
Hopefully, theoretically, that should get you up and running!
*bump*. Anyone else care to share their results?
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Simi Valley, CA.
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Here are mine.
i wont go with the at&t version, becacuse as soon as my contract end early next year im switching to straight talk. i dont want to stuck on another contract again.
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another test i did just now, since all my other tests are early morning.
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What APN settings are you all using for your N7100 on AT&T?
+1 ^^^
Dallas, TX area
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Sorry moderators, put this in the wrong section last time! Feel free to delete previous post!
I spend 50% of my time in the US and 50% of my time in Canada and have a contract with both AT&T and with Rogers.
I am going to buy the S4 soon. Should I get the SGH-I337 variant with AT&T or the SGH-I337m variant with Rogers?
In about 14 months, I will be back in Canada (on Rogers) permanently. So far, I am leaning towards the AT&T variant due to greater rom availability, but I am worried about whether the S4 will work on Rogers 3G bands and LTE network.
The reason I am worried is that I am currently using an unlocked Sprint BB Tour 9630 Quadband on Rogers with specs:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 2100
CDMA/EVDO Rev A 800/1900
And the Roger's EDGE network barely functions on that phone (many disconnects).
I am a little unfamiliar with network bands, but can you let me know if the phone's 3G radio and LTE radio are identical across Rogers and AT&T?
I read somewhere that Rogers S4 uses 2600 MHz LTE Band and AT&T uses 700 MHz LTE. Is this true? Or does this phone have both LTE bands built in?
Thank you!
After a quick search, I believe both phones should have identical network capabilities.
So you should be able to get LTE and 4G access on either of the networks using either of the phone variants.
The 'M' after the model number is definitely a Canadian carrier thing and it makes no difference. I have a Galaxy S2 from Virgin/Bell which was sold in Canada as GT-i9100M but it was identical to the international GT-i9100. So much so, that I was able to flash the ROM for the international GT-i9100 on my phone without any modifications or complications.
Hope it helps! Or a more senior member can chime in and correct me!
i would recommend going with the rogers i337m. the only reason that there is more roms for at&t version is that there is a stronger demand for them. but any roms meant for i337 will also work on i337m.
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i would recommend going with the rogers i337m. the only reason that there is more roms for at&t version is that there is a stronger demand for them. but any roms meant for i337 will also work on i337m.
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Why would you choose the Rogers version?
if you were thinking about getting the s4 soon i would go with att variant like you said because of the rom availability, but if you were going to wait, let say a few weeks to a month i would just get the i337m because samsung will probably push another update to ruin djrbliss work to unlock the bootloader. just keep checking back to see if any update gets pushed through and youll be good
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if you were thinking about getting the s4 soon i would go with att variant like you said because of the rom availability, but if you were going to wait, let say a few weeks to a month i would just get the i337m because samsung will probably push another update to ruin djrbliss work to unlock the bootloader. just keep checking back to see if any update gets pushed through and youll be good
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Ah, the Rogers bootloader is unlocked, but AT&T is locked, correct?
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Why would you choose the Rogers version?
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Unlocked boot loader.
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Hmmmmm. Thank you all! I may just end up getting the 32gb model from AT&T, since I know the AT&T model has the same radio bands built in for 3G and LTE. I'll just hope for an unlocked bootloader!
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Hmmmmm. Thank you all! I may just end up getting the 32gb model from AT&T, since I know the AT&T model has the same radio bands built in for 3G and LTE. I'll just hope for an unlocked bootloader!
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AT&T has a locked bootloader, but you can get it in 32GB. However there are works underway to get around the locks.
Rogers has an unlocked bootloader but only comes in 16GB. Unfortunately there are no ways that I know of to get around the lack of internal space and JB does not let you install apps on external SDcards.
Perfect. I'm going to trade my Blackberry Q10 for the AT&T S4 32gb.
Thanks!
My apologies if this has been discussed before.
Is there, or has there ever planned on being, an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (LTE version) for the US market, which I could possibly region sim-unlock at a later time? I originally planned on purchasing a European unlocked LTE version, but after finding out both LTE won't work on AT&T and the phone is region sim-locked, I'm **** outta luck.
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keennay said:
My apologies if this has been discussed before.
Is there, or has there ever planned on being, an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (LTE version) for the US market, which I could possibly region sim-unlock at a later time? I originally planned on purchasing a European unlocked LTE version, but after finding out both LTE won't work on AT&T and the phone is region sim-locked, I'm **** outta luck.
Thanks
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AT&T allows you to unlock their phones if your account is in a good standing and you have been under contract with this phone for more than 6 months. You can request unlock code through AT&T website. Alternately, there are a bunch of paid sites out there, which will generate an unlock code for you based on your model # and IMEI, for $25-30USD.
You got options, if all you want is the worldwide voice capability. As you said, version with AT&T LTE bands will not have 4G connection in 99% of the other countries in the world. There is only a handful of other countries, which use LTE band 4 and only Puerto Rico uses band 17.
T-Mobile also allows you to unlock it when:
You pay in full
You pay it off
Does anyone know if the T-Mobile Version will work on AT&T LTE? Now that it is confirmed that the AT&T version is Bootloader Locked, that is my only other option. Otherwise it doesn't look like I'm going to be picking up an N3 unless Samsung comes out with a developer edition. Fingers Crossed.
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Does anyone know if the T-Mobile Version will work on AT&T LTE? Now that it is confirmed that the AT&T version is Bootloader Locked, that is my only other option. Otherwise it doesn't look like I'm going to be picking up an N3 unless Samsung comes out with a developer edition. Fingers Crossed.
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Yes, it will: http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/samsung-galaxy-note-3
AT&T uses the frequencies 700MHz band 17 & 29, 1700MHz band 4, 2300MHz band 30. However, very small % of AT&T LTE coverage uses bands 29, 30, so you will get AT&T LTE coverage with T-Mobile GN3 in 99% of the places.
This has been answered many times in other threads in this very general section........
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sk8ordie0 said:
This has been answered many times in other threads in this very general section........
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
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His apologies in advance keeper of XDA.
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His apologies in advance keeper of XDA.
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That's fine and all..... ..... So many threads with simple questions that can be answered by a simple search and read. ..... wonder why no one has answered??
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hollywould said:
Does anyone know if the T-Mobile Version will work on AT&T LTE? Now that it is confirmed that the AT&T version is Bootloader Locked, that is my only other option. Otherwise it doesn't look like I'm going to be picking up an N3 unless Samsung comes out with a developer edition. Fingers Crossed.
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I am planning on getting a unlocked Canadian LTE from either Telus or Rogers..The LTE works perfect with ATT and no locked bootloader. ALso you can tether all you want.
pachi72 said:
I am planning on getting a unlocked Canadian LTE from either Telus or Rogers..The LTE works perfect with ATT and no locked bootloader. ALso you can tether all you want.
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Thanks for the info, I will probably go ahead and wait for those models to come out and get one of them. Besides, I do want to wait for a bit more developer support anyway. Do you know when those models are supposed to be coming out?
Don't know yet.
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hollywould said:
Thanks for the info, I will probably go ahead and wait for those models to come out and get one of them. Besides, I do want to wait for a bit more developer support anyway. Do you know when those models are supposed to be coming out?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
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Just had to bump this thread by saying thank you!
what worries me is that with only the tmob having the unlocked bootloader is that the custom roms will be far and few between. been very spoiled with 4.3 on my s4..
Hi everyone, I currently own a Xperia Z1 (a fantastic phone by the way) but since it is bootloader locked there aren't many things to do with it, so
I, being the flashaholic that I am, decided to trade it for a galaxy S4 so I started searching here in my country (The Dominican Republic) for somebody to trade it with, but I need know two things:
-First: my carrier uses the 900Mhz band for 3g (As I understand only the international/sprint and verizon support that frecuency)
could somebody confirm if the T-mobile one also works on 900mhz (Carrier Orange Dominicana).
-Second: I would like to know what is the most "hack" friendly of all of the S4 Variants, I mean as close to a nexus devices as possible.
I believe the i9500 (international) to be the the one i'm looking for, but that version is getting a bit harder to get here, and I've heard bad things about the bootloader of the verizon version,(how bad it actually is?) so if I have to choose one of the carrier's version, considering the two things above, which one should a go for?
thanks for reading this.
Im in the Caribbean and my carriers 3g band is 850. The most hack friendly is definitely the i9505 (snapdragon version) which is what I have and it supports the 900 3g band. So there you go get the i9505, it has LTE as well you never know when it may come to your country.
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Im in the Caribbean and my carriers 3g band is 850. The most hack friendly is definitely the i9505 (snapdragon version) which is what I have and it supports the 900 3g band. So there you go get the i9505, it has LTE as well you never know when it may come to your country.
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Thanks for replying, the i9505 looks like an excellent choice, but then again is rather difficult to get an international here, Most sellers / owners willing to sell/trade have either the verizon or sprint version (a few others have the T-Mobile one) so if I were to choose between the verizon's or Sprint's, which one would be the wisest choice? (I know that both support the 900mhz 3g frecuency) I heard both aren't too open to mods (Locked Bootloaders, self sim locking, etc.... )
Out of the blue this website/forum posted this exact post made by me. Is this even legal? seems like they are stealing XDA threads info and posting thm as their own
http://www.usoftphone.com/t187961.html
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 on Verizon (SCH-i545) running Android 5.0.1. I cannot find a way to root after searching and searching threads and online! Please help!! Would love to root this phone.
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Did you look in the Verizon S4 forums? That is where you want to go for answers to your questions, as this is the international S4 forum, and we don't have a locked bootloader to prevent root.
Looked there, but didn't find anything. Maybe will post this there, thanks for your help. Can you explain locked bootloader or send me a link of a thread that does? I don't understand the difference of the international.
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Actually I see that someone moved this thread to this category... I posted it elsewhere, what should I do? Noob, sorry!
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Go back to your opening post and report it to the mods. In the text box that appears simply tell them it needs to be moved to the Galaxy S4 Verizon forums. They'll take care of it.
With a locked (i.e. encrypted) bootloader, rooting cannot be performed and custom ROMs cannot be installed. AT&T and Verizon are the largest of the carriers that do this, and they claim to do this in order to ensure consistent performance of the device on their networks. The reality is that they simply don't want you getting rid of their bloatware or working around their other restrictions by rooting and installing custom ROMs. International devices don't come with locked bootloaders, and customization is easy. However, an international phone in the US doesn't get LTE due to the international device not supporting the frequencies used in the United States.
In the US, if LTE is important, a T-Mobile device is the best option even though the device never received an upgrade to Android 5.x. But if you take it abroad, LTE will not function due to it not supporting international LTE frequencies. To the best of my knowledge, phones that support both sets of frequencies have yet to be released.
Thanks for your helpful reply! So... My provider is Verizon, if I get a "T-mobile phone" will it still work on Verizon's network and he rootable? There is some difference in Verizon and AT&T I know because Verizon and Sprint are CDMA and AT&T and others are GSM networks right? I'm not sure what all those mean, but I didn't think they were interchangeable. I thought T-mobile was GSM, but maybe I'm wrong...
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You'd have to leave Verizon if you want a phone you can modify. Verizon and Sprint are CDMA networks, while AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM networks. GSM is the global standard. A CDMA device won't work on a GSM network and vice versa.