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[Q] Rooted Vibrant + T-Mobile Update = Brick?

I just recieved the T-Mobile update an hour and my phone is stuck on the vibrant screen. It was rooted and practically deleted almost every stock app that came with the phone. Is the update still installing or is my phone bricked for good?

VictorHD said:
I just recieved the T-Mobile update an hour and my phone is stuck on the vibrant screen. It was rooted and practically deleted almost every stock app that came with the phone. Is the update still installing or is my phone bricked for good?
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There's 1 sticky post in this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
EASY WAY TO GET THE JI6 UPDATE
It leads to the following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803492
Barring that if you're leery to use Odin, call TMO.

Will any of those methods restore my phone without losing any information on it?

rubberwheels said:
Will any of those methods restore my phone without losing any information on it?
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You could try making a Nandroid and then restoring only the data portion.
It all depends on what the OTA update did to your phone.

Well I'm stuck on the Vibrant Logo screen. Can you tell me how to do that? just restore the data portion?

rubberwheels said:
Will any of those methods restore my phone without losing any information on it?
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I had the same problem. I had OCLF on my phone and I had un-lag-fixed and unrooted with it in anticipation of the JI6 update. When I ran the OTA, it bricked my phone anyway. I had to use Odin to get back to stock and that sounds like what you need to do too.
When I Odin'd back to stock, I still had all my videos, photos, and a bunch of files and stuff for apps, but I still needed to reinstall all the apps and redo all the settings/configurations.

oh man cause I used AK Notepad and basically my life is on that. Will those be erased too? and texts?

trunkstar1 said:
When I Odin'd back to stock, I still had all my videos, photos, and a bunch of files and stuff for apps, but I still needed to reinstall all the apps and redo all the settings/configurations.
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Odin from stock wipes out the existing applications (and replaces all the bloatware too), so they needed to be reinstalled. Once reinstalled from Market, and reinstalling Titanium Backup, I was able to restore from the /sdcard the backups I had made previously.
There was some work involved with getting the system back to what I had, but I didn't lose any data.

d01100100 said:
Odin from stock wipes out the existing applications (and replaces all the bloatware too), so they needed to be reinstalled. Once reinstalled from Market, and reinstalling Titanium Backup, I was able to restore from the /sdcard the backups I had made previously.
There was some work involved with getting the system back to what I had, but I didn't lose any data.
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This is the same as me running a nanoid restore from clockwork.

if i were you i would back the notes up to you sd card, and when the time comes to up date your phone or do anything just remove your sd card and you will be fine. or you can even transfer the pictures and notes to your pc

Vannagan said:
if i were you i would back the notes up to you sd card, and when the time comes to up date your phone or do anything just remove your sd card and you will be fine. or you can even transfer the pictures and notes to your pc
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Where are the AKNotepad notes kept? so i can use adb pull to grab them.

I'm back to stock and it didn't erase any if my pictures, music, files, etc. but since I received the update already back when I was rooted, does that mean I won't be getting the update at all anymore? Or do I have to wait again for another roll-out?
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VictorHD said:
I'm back to stock and it didn't erase any if my pictures, music, files, etc. but since I received the update already back when I was rooted, does that mean I won't be getting the update at all anymore? Or do I have to wait again for another roll-out?
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How you get back to stock? without losing all those data?

Are you guys just really impatient or something with the update. Mine stayed on the Vibrant screen for a while, but I just let it go and it worked out just fine. Mine was rooted and with the Ryan Lag fix.
I guess there is always the possibility that individual experiences can differ.

GenTsoChkn said:
Are you guys just really impatient or something with the update. Mine stayed on the Vibrant screen for a while, but I just let it go and it worked out just fine. Mine was rooted and with the Ryan Lag fix.
I guess there is always the possibility that individual experiences can differ.
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How long did you leave it on the vibrant screen?

rubberwheels said:
How you get back to stock? without losing all those data?
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I followed the instructions on another website. I tried the one they gave me here but it didn't work for me.
Type the following on the Google search bar:
Cyanogenmod how to recover soft brick
It should be the first link there and should look something like this:
[HOWTO] Recover from a"soft brick" on your Vibrant
I can't post link because I'm new here. Hope it helps.
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rubberwheels said:
How long did you leave it on the vibrant screen?
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Keep in mind that I didn't have AK Notepad so I don't know if they get deleted. If I were you I'd back up all the notes; e-mail them to yourself or something.
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Hey, I used odin and the ji6 tar file. Phone works and no data was erased! I think I have the latest ota update.
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For those get soft brick, Go to recovery mode, "clear user data", then "reinstall package". This method works for me
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t-mobile update = brick
I got the update earlier tonight, update installed and phone rebooted stayed at Vibrant screen. left it alone for an hour stayed the same. called TMO now i wai for replacement.

Problems with apps after a restore

I have been running rooted stock from day one, no other modifications. I made a back up using ROM Manager and flashed the ParanoidAndroid Hybrid ROM. I played with it for a while but decided that set up would take a weekend so I restored using Rom Manager again.
Upon reboot I found Wallet wasn't working right. It started to initialize like it was a first time set up and it didn't show any of my receipts or added cards. It also didn't warn me that it was an unsupported device.
First I wiped data and that didn't help so I re-installed and that got it working again.
I also couldn't get Tablet Talk to reconnect to my GNex running Bugless Beast. I cleared data on both devices but still wouldn't connect. So I re-installed the app on both and they worked fine.
I haven't fpund any other problems but has anyone else had problems? Should I stop using ROM Manager and reboot recovery and flash/backup/restore manually? I like ROM Manager because I can name each back up.

Did you do this first with the Wallet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675353

krelvinaz said:
Did you do this first with the Wallet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675353
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Oops, no. I thought I had read we didn't need to do that any more? But now I think that's only on the Verizon Gnex or a modified version of Wallet to work on the GNex...?
But what about Tablet Talk? Just a glitch? Are there any known issues with ROM Manager?

dlaciv12 said:
Oops, no. I thought I had read we didn't need to do that any more? But now I think that's only on the Verizon Gnex or a modified version of Wallet to work on the GNex...?
But what about Tablet Talk? Just a glitch? Are there any known issues with ROM Manager?
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with rom manager, yes, too many. use your recovery to make a backup/restore.

LoL!! I have the same problem with some apps. Its mainly with the Google apps. It has something to do with the data. Some apps you just have to reinstall without the data. Its not a Rom Manager issue since I use Rom Toolbox to back up my apps. If I restore my Google Music data it never refreshes. So if I added music it wouldn't add it. Had to uninstall and reinstall.

I'm not sure if this applies in this case, but when you factory reset your device it generates a unique device ID. I'm not sure if the way you restore an image causes the same regeneration of an ID, but if it happens, that can break apps that utilize it which I would assume Wallet does.
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ExploreMN said:
I'm not sure if this applies in this case, but when you factory reset your device it generates a unique device ID. I'm not sure if the way you restore an image causes the same regeneration of an ID, but if it happens, that can break apps that utilize it which I would assume Wallet does.
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Thanks, that makes a lot of sense and I never knew that.

[Q] UI Stops Working EVERY DAY!!!

No matter what I do... no matter what ROM I flash to, and I have tried 4 different ROMs, I keep getting the UI Stops Working error and then my phone is virtually non-functional. The notifications, navigation, and launcher bars go away and I cannot do anything. The only thing that I can do is boot into recovery and then flash a new ROM, BUT I have been doing this a couple times a day.
I even formatted my entire phone, internal storage and all, started completely over AND YET I still get the issue. What can I do???

System UI errors
alwaysbelieve1 said:
No matter what I do... no matter what ROM I flash to, and I have tried 4 different ROMs, I keep getting the UI Stops Working error and then my phone is virtually non-functional. The notifications, navigation, and launcher bars go away and I cannot do anything. The only thing that I can do is boot into recovery and then flash a new ROM, BUT I have been doing this a couple times a day.
I even formatted my entire phone, internal storage and all, started completely over AND YET I still get the issue. What can I do???
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Did you freeze any of your system apps?

mcapozzi said:
Did you freeze any of your system apps?
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The only ones that I can think of are the live wallpaper ones, Email Exchange since I don't need it, and face unlock. I also froze the NFC. I wouldn't think that would cause it. I was reading on the internet that the Facebook app can cause it so I deleted the app and we will see.
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alwaysbelieve1 said:
The only ones that I can think of are the live wallpaper ones, Email Exchange since I don't need it, and face unlock. I also froze the NFC. I wouldn't think that would cause it. I was reading on the internet that the Facebook app can cause it so I deleted the app and we will see.
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What launcher are you using?
-Mike

mcapozzi said:
What launcher are you using?
-Mike
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Nova Prime

alwaysbelieve1 said:
Nova Prime
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You didn't by chance accidentally freeze the stock launcher?
-Mike

mcapozzi said:
You didn't by chance accidentally freeze the stock launcher?
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No

Here is a thread regarding the issue, but none of the "fixes" worked for me: http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...0371-unfortunately-system-ui-has-stopped.html
I deleted Facebook so we shall see if that does the trick.

When this happened to me I used Matt's utility option 1... rooted it updated it n made a TiB of everything... now when I tinker n it gets wonky I restore the systemui.apk n reboot... I know you said that you started over does that mean you used rsd and flashed stock... or did you go through a recovery to do the wiping formatting n what not?
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Had this happen the other day and this is what I did. I rebooted the phone WHILE HOLDING THE VOLUME DOWN KEY. it boots into safe mode. While in there make a TiBu of your apps. Then boot into recovery and factory data/reset like 3 times, flash back to a ROM and restore your apps. This way you don't lose your stuff.
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ezknives said:
When this happened to me I used Matt's utility option 1... rooted it updated it n made a TiB of everything... now when I tinker n it gets wonky I restore the systemui.apk n reboot... I know you said that you started over does that mean you used rsd and flashed stock... or did you go through a recovery to do the wiping formatting n what not?
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When I meant started over I was yes referring to the booting to recovery and then wiping/formatting everything, then reflashing a ROM. That works, but I just am nervous now because the issue persists no matter the ROM. Sometimes it takes a day or two or sometimes it happens even quicker than that. I think it might be Facebook so I am not installing that app again. Why FB works on my Nexus 7 tablet and my wife's phone just fine is beyond me.
I didn't know I can make a backup of systemui.apk and restore it to make it work. I wish we could find the main issue to begin with so we can resolve this once-and-for-all.

evastonian said:
Had this happen the other day and this is what I did. I rebooted the phone WHILE HOLDING THE VOLUME DOWN KEY. it boots into safe mode. While in there make a TiBu of your apps. Then boot into recovery and factory data/reset like 3 times, flash back to a ROM and restore your apps. This way you don't lose your stuff.
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Yes that is exactly what I do every time. Today I started completely fresh and installed everything manually so I can better narrow down any issues.

alwaysbelieve1 said:
When I meant started over I was yes referring to the booting to recovery and then wiping/formatting everything, then reflashing a ROM. That works, but I just am nervous now because the issue persists no matter the ROM. Sometimes it takes a day or two or sometimes it happens even quicker than that. I think it might be Facebook so I am not installing that app again. Why FB works on my Nexus 7 tablet and my wife's phone just fine is beyond me.
I didn't know I can make a backup of systemui.apk and restore it to make it work. I wish we could find the main issue to begin with so we can resolve this once-and-for-all.
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Yea I backup everything on my external hard drive (that after I back anything up I bubble wrap and put in my fire safe< a bit paranoid) every week, so that if anything happens I can just wipe it clean and start fresh (I have never used rsd lite but I'm guessing its somewhat like option one of Matt's utility) that restores your phone to a moto flashed like state... ready to be sold as a certified like new device (as Verizon would call it)...
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Are you mounting system in TWRP, before you wipe data? For some reason, I stopped doing this when I updated to the newer TWRP. There was a thread on here where someone said they mounted prior to wiping and it solved their 4.3 issues. I tried it and it worked for me. I would suggest you try the same.

RikRong said:
Are you mounting system in TWRP, before you wipe data? For some reason, I stopped doing this when I updated to the newer TWRP. There was a thread on here where someone said they mounted prior to wiping and it solved their 4.3 issues. I tried it and it worked for me. I would suggest you try the same.
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Don't even know how to do this or what this means exactly...

Device got restored automatically and app data gone

Early morning when I woke up, I saw the language option coming on the home screen. I thought I got an upgrade to Android M automatically, so, I moved on with the all the process of setting up the device. Later on, there came an option to keep all the 81 apps and it's data, so, I choose 'Yes'. It was shocking to see that it was no upgrade but a reset was automatically initiated. Though all the apps are being downloaded and installed but the app data is gone which was more than important to me. I was using an app called Expense Manager (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.markushi.expensemanager) and I really want the data back. Please help me out with this and yes, my device is not rooted. Android version is 5.1.1

sahil1033 said:
Early morning when I woke up, I saw the language option coming on the home screen. I thought I got an upgrade to Android M automatically, so, I moved on with the all the process of setting up the device. Later on, there came an option to keep all the 81 apps and it's data, so, I choose 'Yes'. It was shocking to see that it was no upgrade but a reset was automatically initiated. Though all the apps are being downloaded and installed but the app data is gone which was more than important to me. I was using an app called Expense Manager (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.markushi.expensemanager) and I really want the data back. Please help me out with this and yes, my device is not rooted. Android version is 5.1.1
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Did you make a nandroid with TWRP? Or titanium backup?

Evolution_Tech said:
Did you make a nandroid with TWRP? Or titanium backup?
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No, I did nothing.

sahil1033 said:
No, I did nothing.
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I'm afraid you most likely can not recover that data.

No most likely about it. OP is SOL. Data cannot be recovered in this situation by ANY means.
If something is valuable to you on your tablet TAKE BACKUPS FREQUENTLY.

Evolution_Tech said:
I'm afraid you most likely can not recover that data.
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fwayfarer said:
No most likely about it. OP is SOL. Data cannot be recovered in this situation by ANY means.
If something is valuable to you on your tablet TAKE BACKUPS FREQUENTLY.
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Any good backup app which can be used on non-rooted device. Also, I'm curious why did my device automatically got a reset.

sahil1033 said:
Any good backup app which can be used on non-rooted device. Also, I'm curious why did my device automatically got a reset.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup

sahil1033 said:
Any good backup app which can be used on non-rooted device. Also, I'm curious why did my device automatically got a reset.
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it could have been anything. the cheap flash memory is getting old in these devices. people are having their flash literally fail to unreadable at this point. it could have even been a goddamn cosmic ray hit that triggered it. no way to tell at this point.

Huge Android OS data usage

Guys what the hell is this? Scrrenshot is in Polish, but I think you get the picture, huge data usage of something called android os. Just in a week. HELP.

Do you have an app changing the wallpaper automatically?

No I do not...

It's now getting huge. 4 gigs guys in 18 days...

Did you uninstall any apps recently?

well, I am installing and uninstalling apps all the time... why?

szymon94 said:
well, I am installing and uninstalling apps all the time... why?
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TBH, this isn't normal no matter what the situation. I would wipe caches and then factory default if that doesn't work. Android OS shouldn't use more than like 10 or 20 MB per week, hardly GB's of data. Unless you have an unlimited data plan I would do it quickly.
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acejavelin said:
TBH, this isn't normal no matter what the situation. I would wipe caches and then factory default if that doesn't work. Android OS shouldn't use more than like 10 or 20 MB per week, hardly GB's of data. Unless you have an unlimited data plan I would do it quickly.
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Well, I did both o those things yesterday. This is my data usage from 7 am to 5 pm today. Standard, nothing has changed :/

Root is using data? Should not occur, at least not in any significant amount... My best guess is you are infected with some kind of malware, possibly at the system level.
At this point I would wipe everything and reflash your rom or restore from a good TWRP backup.
What rom are you on and what root apps, like Xposed, do you have installed?
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acejavelin said:
Root is using data? Should not occur, at least not in any significant amount... My best guess is you are infected with some kind of malware, possibly at the system level.
At this point I would wipe everything and reflash your rom or restore from a good TWRP backup.
What rom are you on and what root apps, like Xposed, do you have installed?
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Well that could be a possibility, but the thing is, that I have not rooted the phone or change the rom...I bought it a month ago, installed all the official OTA updates and this is what is happening...

szymon94 said:
Well that could be a possibility, but the thing is, that I have not rooted the phone or change the rom...I bought it a month ago, installed all the official OTA updates and this is what is happening...
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Did you do a factory reset?
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yes, like I said , I did it yesterday

szymon94 said:
yes, like I said , I did it yesterday
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Sorry to ask again, I just want to clarify... you bought the phone new, allowed it to update via OTA, never unlocked the bootloader (and you can verify it has never been unlocked), never rooted, and never installed a custom ROM... You are completely stock and you did a full factory reset where you lost all your data and apps and had to start clean yesterday, and didn't install any apps (prior to testing for excessive data usage).
And you are still getting high data usage from an app called root?
I'm sorry to question you, but something is very wrong here, the behaviour sounds a lot like a virus or malware of somekind but since you have a locked bootloader, and took OTA's (meaning /system is clean), and did a factory reset that is highly unlikely. That leaves a pure software or modem firmware error or corruption, maybe, I'm guessing now...
Have you contacted Moto support or tried posting in Moto Support Forums yet?

acejavelin said:
Sorry to ask again, I just want to clarify... you bought the phone new, allowed it to update via OTA, never unlocked the bootloader (and you can verify it has never been unlocked), never rooted, and never installed a custom ROM... You are completely stock and you did a full factory reset where you lost all your data and apps and had to start clean yesterday, and didn't install any apps (prior to testing for excessive data usage).
And you are still getting high data usage from an app called root?
I'm sorry to question you, but something is very wrong here, the behaviour sounds a lot like a virus or malware of somekind but since you have a locked bootloader, and took OTA's (meaning /system is clean), and did a factory reset that is highly unlikely. That leaves a pure software or modem firmware error or corruption, maybe, I'm guessing now...
Have you contacted Moto support or tried posting in Moto Support Forums yet?
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I did all of those things except one thing, after the factory reset all of the apps downloaded itself automatically, some kind of google backup I guess (or Mororola's?)

szymon94 said:
I did all of those things except one thing, after the factory reset all of the apps downloaded itself automatically, some kind of google backup I guess (or Mororola's?)
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It's an option that is part of Google in Lollipop and newer devices when you go through the initial setup wizard... you selected a device to restore data and apps from (it defaults to the most recent), and there is a spot you can tap to open a menu to select which apps (or all or none) to restore.
My point is, if your restoring apps there could be a malware or misbehaved app "hiding" in there, you need to verify it with no apps... or skip entering your Google account entirely. To disable FRP you will need to delete your Google account from the device prior to doing a factory reset.

well, its wierd because I have noticed this huge "root" data usage right after I bought the phone and I had back then only some basic apps from google so they should be safe...is there an app that could scan the phone for malwere or viruses?

szymon94 said:
well, its wierd because I have noticed this huge "root" data usage right after I bought the phone and I had back then only some basic apps from google so they should be safe...is there an app that could scan the phone for malwere or viruses?
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Same as on a PC... Avira, Malwarebytes, Avast, AVG, Bitdefender, Kaspersky, Eset Mobile, etc... Take your pick.
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acejavelin said:
Same as on a PC... Avira, Malwarebytes, Avast, AVG, Bitdefender, Kaspersky, Eset Mobile, etc... Take your pick.
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I run two of them, nothing has been found...

szymon94 said:
I run two of them, nothing has been found...
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The only other thing I would do is factory default, and do not setup Google account and test as it came out of the box... is the data usage still there? If so, it's not something you can do anything about and you should contact Moto. If it is gone, it's an app that is either purposely, or is misbehaving, that it doing it. Finding the culprit without root will be problematic at best, but if you root then your warranty is void.

acejavelin said:
The only other thing I would do is factory default, and do not setup Google account and test as it came out of the box... is the data usage still there? If so, it's not something you can do anything about and you should contact Moto. If it is gone, it's an app that is either purposely, or is misbehaving, that it doing it. Finding the culprit without root will be problematic at best, but if you root then your warranty is void.
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ok, this is from today, details about this "root". not much, but maybe it means something, it never uses wi-fi, only mobile, and it has this wierd "chunks", like sudden big package download...(blue is mobile, green is wi-fi)