[INFO] All things to do with camera - Oppo Find 5

Hardware:
Back: Sony IMX135
Front: Samsung s5k6a3 - same front sensor used in Galaxy S3, Note II N7100
Datasheet: none so far
Kernel:
arch/arm/mach-msm/board-8064-camera.c
drivers/media/video/msm/sensors/imx135.c
Useful links:
https://www.google.com/search?q=exposing+android+camera+stack
Qualcomm basic camera lib
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...re/qcom/camera.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/jb

paperWastage said:
Hardware: Sony IMX135
Datasheet: none so far
Kernel:
arch/arm/mach-msm/board-8064-camera.c
drivers/media/video/msm/sensors/imx135.c
Useful links:
https://www.google.com/search?q=exposing+android+camera+stack
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Front cam is s5k6a3yx
For whatever reason, the kernel sources have a bunch of changes for imx091 and s5k8aay - tagged with older dates though. I think OPPO switched camera modules mid-development (looks like around September-ish...)
Nice of Oppo to put comments before and after everything they changed in the kernel!

Entropy512 said:
Front cam is s5k6a3yx
For whatever reason, the kernel sources have a bunch of changes for imx091 and s5k8aay - tagged with older dates though. I think OPPO switched camera modules mid-development (looks like around September-ish...)
Nice of Oppo to put comments before and after everything they changed in the kernel!
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googling s5k6a3yx, some company says it's a 1.3mpix module
Oppo says front camera is 1.9mpix
EDIT: see another source that say it's a samsung chip, 2.0mpix
EDIT2: it's a 1.9mpix
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...t/cmos-imaging/detail?productId=7714&iaId=217

thanks for posting this stuff... i am seriously thinking of getting this phone over the HTC One for T-mobile.

galaxy S4 is said to use the same Sony Exmor RS sensor for the back camera

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Galaxy Note 4 Rear Camera Specifications

Hey All,
Been trying to find detailed specs of main camera as Samsung only said it has OIS in their keynote. Lol.
Please help by posting max iso, aperture, f. Sensor size etc.
My Z2 overheating issues is starting to bug me so looking to go back to note line after note 3 camera sucked! Hoping Note 4 is better than S5.
ipmanwck said:
Hey All,
Been trying to find detailed specs of main camera as Samsung only said it has OIS in their keynote. Lol.
Please help by posting max iso, aperture, f. Sensor size etc.
My Z2 overheating issues is starting to bug me so looking to go back to note line after note 3 camera sucked! Hoping Note 4 is better than S5.
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Pretty slim pickings so far but I did find this
mademan420 said:
Pretty slim pickings so far but I did find this
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It's a 4.8mm lens with f/2.2 aperture, OIS, 16 MP camera. I based these specs on the exif data of a sample picture. Samsung has not confirmed anything about the sensor, although it is suspected that it is by Sony. Not much more is known at this time.
cinnaC2C said:
It's a 4.8mm lens with f/2.2 aperture, OIS, 16 MP camera. I based these specs on the exif data of a sample picture. Samsung has not confirmed anything about the sensor, although it is suspected that it is by Sony. Not much more is known at this time.
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get photo make with help Note4, then PUMa - Tools - Camera with this photo and have information about module & sensor
It uses Sony imx240 sensor afaik
Why are samsung not releasing info?
Thanks for all comments but this is weird English - The Galaxy Note 4 comes with a 16MP 1/2.6” size sensor with f2.0 aperture lens. This is not the same module as on the Galaxy S5 though. Did they mean it is the same module?
bala_gamer said:
It uses Sony imx240 sensor afaik
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How do you know for sure?
because he saw it on the internet so it must be true
ipmanwck said:
Why are samsung not releasing info?
Thanks for all comments but this is weird English - The Galaxy Note 4 comes with a 16MP 1/2.6” size sensor with f2.0 aperture lens. This is not the same module as on the Galaxy S5 though. Did they mean it is the same module?
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The aperture is wrong in that article. There are sample photographs out there you can download and then examine the exif data. That will confirm that the aperture is f/2.2 and the lens is 4.8mm. Exactly as Galaxy S5.
cinnaC2C said:
The aperture is wrong in that article. There are sample photographs out there you can download and then examine the exif data. That will confirm that the aperture is f/2.2 and the lens is 4.8mm. Exactly as Galaxy S5.
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Thought as much. That's the reason samsung didn't release info as they knew they would be hammered grouping some camera tech!
Not asking much just a decent spec camera? At least S5 takes good pics in general just same Sammy low light fail (indoor)
ipmanwck said:
Thought as much. That's the reason samsung didn't release info as they knew they would be hammered grouping some camera tech! y
Not asking much just a decent spec camera? At least S5 takes good pics in general just same Sammy low light fail (indoor)
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The Note 4 may do better in low light however if they have incorporated a Sony sensor. OIS should help as well. There are other things that could be different too like ISO, and shutter speed, So I am curious to see how this thing will do in low light.
cinnaC2C said:
The Note 4 may do better in low light however if they have incorporated a Sony sensor. OIS should help as well. There are other things that could be different too like ISO, and shutter speed, So I am curious to see how this thing will do in low light.
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Well it was believed to be the Sony sensor. However the Lenovo Vibe Z2 released with a 16MP OIS Samsung made ISOCELL camera sensor leads to believe Samsung used their own ISOCELL sensor in the Note 4.
And released samples show a lot of improvement in low light compared to past Samsung devices. Even the S5.
And the OIS video test compared to the S5 makes an immediate huge difference. And the S5's video without OIS was already outstanding. So the detail or better of the S5 with OIS to clear up more detail and stabilize it.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/01/galaxy-note-4-camera-vibe-z2
On the german Samsung-Site it looks like the rear camera will have only f/2.4 aperture
cyber-junkie said:
On the german Samsung-Site it looks like the rear camera will have only f/2.4 aperture
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do not believe the sites, believe your eyes
Darkangels6sic6 said:
Well it was believed to be the Sony sensor. However the Lenovo Vibe Z2 released with a 16MP OIS Samsung made ISOCELL camera sensor leads to believe Samsung used their own ISOCELL sensor in the Note 4.
And released samples show a lot of improvement in low light compared to past Samsung devices. Even the S5.
And the OIS video test compared to the S5 makes an immediate huge difference. And the S5's video without OIS was already outstanding. So the detail or better of the S5 with OIS to clear up more detail and stabilize it.
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I thought it was already confirmed to be a Sony IMX240 sensor?
Sammobile is usually on point - can't post links yet, but google "Exclusive: Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Camera Features – 16MP, Side Touch, Wide Selfie, and much more." See below for quote.
According to our sources, Samsung is equipping the Galaxy Note 4 with a 16-megapixel Sony IMX240 camera sensor on the back with optical image stabilization (OIS), which is capable of shooting UHD (3840×2160) video at 30FPS. This isn’t the first time Samsung is using the IMX240 camera sensor - Samsung has used the exact same sensor in the Korean Galaxy S5 Broadband LTE-A (SM-G906S/L/K), however it lacked optical image stabilization (OIS)
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Shoot RAW

Hi there,
As the Camera2 API isn't in the last release of lollipop for the note for (I own the F - European version of it), I was wondering if it was possible to allow Raw (DNG) shooting with a custom ROM or anything else... What do you think ?
Thanks !
TheValou said:
Hi there,
As the Camera2 API isn't in the last release of lollipop for the note for (I own the F - European version of it), I was wondering if it was possible to allow Raw (DNG) shooting with a custom ROM or anything else... What do you think ?
Thanks !
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I think that no at this moment ......I have N910F too, I swapped from N910C before a 2 days but I am very disapointed with camera on F version. There is a too much noise ....photos from C version are sharper.
I sell my Exynos variant due to CM12 possibility on SnapDragon.
AFAIK the n910f and the n910c share exactly the same sensor. So there shouldn't be any difference. Right on your camera's glass Samsung usually put a little piece of flake which you might want to peel off. Maybe that's what makes your shots blurry. Other than that, it might be software settings (or post-processing in case you are on a different version). But the shots should be identical. Cheer on, at least the Snap805 is the better chipset. This big.LITTLE farce is a joke and on the development side you know Samsung will hold their source codes for months before making them publicly available. I have the n910c and it's not that great.

Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 - Real PDAF ? What is the camera sensor used ?

Hi,
I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, recently, there was a review of this smartphone at DPReview, mainly due to the camera being 13Mpx with Phase Detection Auto Focus, on such a cheap smartphone.
And I was wondering, how can I identify the Camera Sensors on this phone?
There has been a teardown of the phone, and below is the picture of the sensors found:
myfixguide dot com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-Teardown-16.jpg
The thing is, this references don't lead to anywhere... I've searched the net for them and found nothing... On Xiaomi's publicity, sometimes the sensor is publicized as being from Samsung or OV (Omnivision), this is never good, as we never know really what is the sensor we have on our phone...
And I've seen my share of Chinese Smartphone manufacturers that say they put sensors from Sony, and then it's Omnivision or Samsung (if your lucky), or else it's "Sunny" or some other small time chinese sensor brand...
What called my attention was, that for a smartphone so "cheap" (base model costs aprox. $125 in China), they put a 13Mpx PDAF sensor on it...
But I'm not sure both Omnivision and Samsung produce sensors with the same specs, also, from the picture below, it looks like the sensor might in fact be from "O-Film", another relatively lesser known sensor brand (check: o-film dot com)
Both sensors seem to have similar codes:
OMI BA 08
OMI 5F 05
So it looks like they might be sourced from the same manufacturer, but looking at the references, I'm afraid if they aren't really a 8Mpx sensor, interpolated to 13Mpx... Because of the "08" in the reference of the back sensor, while the front one has "05" which corresponds to the frontal camera spec of 5Mpx.
Can anyone help me identify the real sensor inside my phone? Thanks for the help !
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Edit:
the sensors are http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/cmos-image-sensor/mobile-cis/S5K3M2?ia=217 and http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=150
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
sunbriel said:
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
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Thanks for the tip !
In my case, I have:
- Back camera: the Sunny made S5K3M2_2ND (probably a clone of the Samsung ISOCELL S5K3M2, maybe this is their 2nd version clone or try...)
- Front camera: the Ofilm OV5670 (a clone of the Omnivision OV5670 probably)
I wonder if these clone brands have as good quality as the original ones...
Been looking on Chinese forums about this topic. I myself don't really care, but it slightly caught my interest. They are saying that the sensor is Samsung's and the camera module is Ofilm's or Sunny's.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
Same here. The picture quality at day rivals those of much more expensive phones and the phone focuses fast enough for me - so the question on whether it's original vs a clone, or whether the PDAF is a real or fake one is purely academical to me. As for how such a "cheap" phone can have such features, it's simple: the companies charge huge margins. Just look at Sony's M5, it's essentially the same phone with more megapixels (though, tbh, not really better image quality) and costs around 500€. You're paying about 300€ just for the brand and pixels.
It's not a clone. Here is one of the links where it is explained what it all means: www.miui.com/thread-2916880-1-1.html
Use Google translate, you'll understand the general meaning. Basically, it's like I wrote in my previous post.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
I'm not saying it is a clone, I'm saying I wouldn't care even if it is.
I was responding to the OP, though.
Sent from my X98 Air II (HG9N)
I have Sunny cameras (rear & front)
Front camera shot clean pictures in good light condition.
Rear camera is a little bit noise and macros are not perfect (you must stay at least at 10 cm from the subject in order to get a good macro) but autofocus is very fast
The problem is video FPS
I noticed that it drops dramatically in low light condition, from 30 to 22 so shot video lags
And in your?
I noticed that with miui 7 we now have slow motion so somewere around 90fps. ( you have to be in hd not in full hd to get this option).

Note 4 - android 6.0.1 and RAW DNG picture support

To be fixed,
Is there ANY way to do RAW / DNG pictures on a note 4?
any kernel - rom - camera app (like camera fv-5)?
Is it really impossible for developper?
Theorically sensor Sony IMX240 and OS are compatible.
Thank you, there is nothing clear on the internet.
I have an answer from APP camera FV-5:
Hello,
The new camera driver (Camera2 API) that allows manual controls and capture in RAW, must be developed by the manufacturer. So far as we know, Samsung has never included it in the updates to models that did not have it on launch.
Best regards
Antonio
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There is the same Sony IMX240 sensor on many samsung, maybe a developer can implement driver on note 4 ?
Or it's impossible?

No more Sony camera sensors on Qualcomm version?!

Last years all the S and Note versions use to have Sony IMX sensors on Qualcomm version and SLSI (Samsung low quality sensors) on the Exynos version.
I just test a Qualcomm version from China and I was very surprised to discover with Aida64 that Samsung uses the low quality sensors even on this Qualcomm version, only the selfie sensor is IMX from Sony.
I just wonder, in US version with Qualcomm it's the same? Becouse, I really like the IMX sensors vs Samsung ones
Just check it with AIDA64 and let us know pls. Thank You!
Confirmed...slsi on US model.
mastibeta said:
Confirmed...slsi on US model.
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Same on Canadian
You shouldn't call them low quality, Sony is actually quite behind hardware-wise and Samsung is getting rid of it for a reason, you can very well expect the next Pixel to have an ISOCELL sensor too, it would really do wonders with good processing.
Many manufacturers are sourcing these sensors from Samsung, Apple includes them in their latest phones too
But yeah, the only Sony IMX Qualcomm S10s have is the front camera, everything else is a proprietary upgrade.
I have an Exynos and I'm very happy with the rear camera, disappointed with the front one, it's applying a pink-clear effect on skins no matter the settings and I just don't come from a culture obsessed with automatic photo editing to make faces look like plastic, I want total accuracy and I hope they give up on the Asian autophotoshop bull**** with future updates, I don't need that.

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