T-mobile can tell that I am tethering? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?

jtseidner said:
Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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I've tethered plenty of times on Tmobile with no issues, don't even bother to change the useragent on my browser when I do. Sounds like you've been doing it either very frequently or using excessive bandwidth and they caught on to you. Knowing it's a service they charge extra for you coulda been more careful .

negroplasty said:
I've tethered plenty of times on Tmobile with no issues, don't even bother to change the useragent on my browser when I do. Sounds like you've been doing it either very frequently or using excessive bandwidth and they caught on to you. Knowing it's a service they charge extra for you coulda been more careful .
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That's kinda crazy! I just checked my bill and I used 5 gigs last month and 1.6 so far this billing cycle. Doesnt seem to extreme to me!

How much of that usage was tethering?
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jtseidner said:
Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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Oh yeah they can tell. I got a push text (not a normal one) on my cm10.1 yelling at me about tethering, only after 30 seconds of viewing a webpage. I was able to use my hidemyass vpn and not a peep.

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How much of that usage was tethering?
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According to Data Usage in Settings (I assume it is all reported under Tethering and portable hot spot? Or does it also report as browser?):
This month: 140MB
Last month: 334MB

jtseidner said:
According to Data Usage in Settings (I assume it is all reported under Tethering and portable hot spot? Or does it also report as browser?):
This month: 140MB
Last month: 334MB
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I'm wondering with the 500mb of tethering included with unlimited if they are going to be doing good less random checks. Have you thought about switching to or making sure your on the new plan?
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pwc realtor said:
I'm wondering with the 500mb of tethering included with unlimited if they are going to be doing good less random checks. Have you thought about switching to or making sure your on the new plan?
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I just signed a 2 year contract so I dont think I can change plans I signed to get the free nexus 4 promo

jtseidner said:
I just signed a 2 year contract so I dont think I can change plans I signed to get the free nexus 4 promo
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Use a vpn tmobile packet sniffs your browsers user agent so say chrome for Windows pops up on their tower that's how they find out
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Change your browser's "User Agent" (addon/plugin) to android or some other mobile device. That way, Tmo will think you're using data on your mobile and you won't get flagged for hotspot tethering.

ghostrid3r said:
Change your browser's "User Agent" (addon/plugin) to android or some other mobile device. That way, Tmo will think you're using data on your mobile and you won't get flagged for hotspot tethering.
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Thanks guys, I've installed an add on to Chrome on my desktop and changed by user agent to Chrome/Nexus 4. Tested it out on a wired connection and most web sites seem to be going to the mobile version, so I think it is working.
However, it looks like as I was experimenting trying to get around the block, they have completely disabled tether all together. Got another text that said wifi tether was been blocked. I can connect, but before I was at least getting a t-moble splash page. Now I get no internet connection at all. Hopefully they re-enable in a few days or by next billing cycle.

Are you using an app to tether or built in method
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BrianDigital said:
Are you using an app to tether or built in method
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I tried both WiFi tether apk and built in

Does anyone know if Koush's tether app gets around this?
And what about using a VPN, is that a solid solution?

nak1017 said:
Does anyone know if Koush's tether app gets around this?
And what about using a VPN, is that a solid solution?
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It should be or it could be my luck, my idea is. If tmobile can't see your packets then they can't tell what you're doing
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Three {uk} all you can eat tethering

So with all you can eat data they don't allow you to tether ..
There's the clockworkmod app that will make it work with USB tethering so they can't detect it .
But what about wifi hotspots. Is there an app for wifi hot spots so that they can't detect it ?
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italia0101 said:
So with all you can eat data they don't allow you to tether ..
There's the clockworkmod app that will make it work with USB tethering so they can't detect it .
But what about wifi hotspots. Is there an app for wifi hot spots so that they can't detect it ?
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I tether on my three all you can eat although I don't know if they have changed the terms since I signed up one year ago.
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Three doesn't say no tethering, that's what's good about uk carriers
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It does . Go on sim only on the website and click any data plan with all you can eat except the one plan ...
At the bottom it says tethering not allowed
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italia0101 said:
It does . Go on sim only on the website and click any data plan with all you can eat except the one plan ...
At the bottom it says tethering not allowed
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Hmm so it does, well I tether all the time and have never had any problems
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Hm well that's interesting, I wonder if its because you already had the contract before they changed it or something...
Some say that when they try and tether they get redirected to a web page where it says tethering not allowed
italia0101 said:
Hm well that's interesting, I wonder if its because you already had the contract before they changed it or something...
Some say that when they try and tether they get redirected to a web page where it says tethering not allowed
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I just turn tethering on and it works, but I'm on all in one 10 so maybe they don't care so much
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DarkhShadow said:
I just turn tethering on and it works, but I'm on all in one 10 so maybe they don't care so much
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I'm on a contract also rather than PAYG so may be the reason.
Any updates on this?
I'm on a 2GB a month plan, for £5, but can switch to all-you-can-eat for £3 a month, be he was banging on about no use on a laptop as modem. Surely if the phone is doing the tethering, how would they know?
Has anyone done the switch recently? I have a Galaxy S2, but I'm sure this is irrelevant for this topic.
Cheers,
Carl.
Yea I changed to three all you can eat ... I tried tethering and it worked for my tab and PC.... maybe its just lucky sometimes and unlucky others ...
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italia0101 said:
Yea I changed to three all you can eat ... I tried tethering and it worked for my tab and PC.... maybe its just lucky sometimes and unlucky others ...
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Maybe it only detects it if you use more than one device connected via tethering? Brave enough to test it?
I've had my three contract since around April. Was tethering fine until about 3 weeks ago when I was presented with the said "no tethering allowed" web page!!! :crying:
I'm very interested in this thread.
If I insert the sim on a usb 3g stick and plug it to the PC is it also considerated as tethering?
And 3G wifi routers?
USB tethering with any special aplication is undetectable?
I have three contracts on the one plan and all work fine for tethering all part of the plan. My daughters boyfriend has a normal all you can eat data plan, if he tries to tether via a laptop or pc he gets the message, yet if he tethers via an android tablet he doesn't get it and can use as much data as he wants.
Has anyone managed to get anywhere with this?, I'm paying £5 extra for tethering but they limit me to 1GB per month even though I have an all-you-can-eat data plan!.
I want to use the same 3G connection for my PC as I do for the phone so they can't see what I'm up to and can use more than 1GB without getting rumbled.
Do you think they're using port numbers (e.g. 8080) to see if it's a PC or an android device?
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I've hit the same problem, tried loads of apps and the best I can get is a browser window telling me off
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Can't connect to hotspot on nexus 4

Created a hotspot on my rooted nexus 4. My computer can connect but can't get internet access.I have at&t. Do I need special settings?
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Soundchasr said:
Created a hotspot on my rooted nexus 4. My computer can connect but can't get internet access.I have at&t. Do I need special settings?
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It could be a feature not enabled in your plan. I would check there first
It's not part of my plan. I'm trying to do it "on the sly".
I was hoping I could get Wi-Fi tether to make the Nexus 4 appear as an access point, and not ad-hoc, but I haven't been able to get it to do that. Anyone else had luck?
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Can anyone help?? I've looked everywhere. I can connect to the hotspot, just not to the internet. Same thing happens with the hotspot on my Galaxy Tab. Both are with ATT.
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Can anyone help?? I've looked everywhere. I can connect to the hotspot, just not to the internet. Same thing happens with the hotspot on my Galaxy Tab. Both are with ATT.
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AT&T actively blocks teather if you don't pay for it. Not sure of a work around as they are blocking it from there end not the phones end. That said some of the thethering apps claim to be able to defeat this, the one Koush made, clockworkmod tether, comes to mind but it only has a 14 day free trial, $4.99 after that. It also requires a desktop client to be installed. Also is this plain AT&T or Straight Talk AT&T? Straight Talk limits you to 100 MB of data per day with a 2 GB cap. If you go over either they throttle you to 2G speeds for the rest of the month.
Regular ATT, not straight talk. Looks like the clockworkmod tether is usb only.....
Try WiFi tether for android.
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kzoodroid said:
Try WiFi tether for android.
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Tried it.
possibly APN settings?

Safest way to tether without a plan on T Mo?

Id like to tether on the Nexus 4 rarely, but it might use a chunk of data. Is there a way to do so without them detecting it? I know a lot of people frown upon asking these questions, but id like to know
Thank you!
Haha! It probably is going to be very difficult without actually hacking into their servers. And once you are caught I doubt the trouble you would get if you get caught will be fun. So in short, maybe if you are a 1337 h4x0r.
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shadehh said:
Haha! It probably is going to be very difficult without actually hacking into their servers. And once you are caught I doubt the trouble you would get if you get caught will be fun. So in short, maybe if you are a 1337 h4x0r.
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So the tethering apps cant spoof the traffic to look like its mobile?
They detect you by sniffing for your browser "User Agent".
1) Use an encrypted VPN tunnel as your default gateway.
2) Use HTTPS URL's
3) Change your browser User Agent
Are 3 ideas that come to mind.
Easy? I'd you enable wireless hotspot under data, it works great! I use it sometimes, never had issues. I had a family emergency last week and my mom literally had to fly to Russia same day we found something out. Long story short I ended up driving to her house and helping her with everything. She had to unlock her iPhone 5 on sprint so that she could get a Sim over there temporarily.
Reset the iPhone and we had to leave to the airport. Since I cloud doesn't do anything over mobile network, I had to make my nexus into a hotspot while we drove, besides tmo is like 100x faster than sprint. Anyway, all was well, at the the end of the day my data usage shows 2gb worth of data, no problems.
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Vpnbook.com if you're lazy
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I really don't think T-mobile cares as much as you are thinking. I use my phone to tether to my xbox and tablet quite a lot since my wifi sucks, and they haven't said anything. I think it might be that they don't monitor prepaid plans as closely, but what's the worst that could happen?
Without a data plan or without a tethering plan? There are ways to tether without a tethering plan such as VPN.
What if I connected my phone to my home VPN and funneled all traffic through there?
awesome
yesterday i found new galaxy s3 ))))))))
If you don't overdo it, T-Mobile won't bug you.
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faters said:
yesterday i found new galaxy s3 ))))))))
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WiFi tether

I'm running cm10.1 and I want a WiFi tether that my carrier can't see (T-Mobile). Anyone know of a WiFi tethering app that works I tried a few and no work.
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What are you exactly trying to do ?
miku3191 said:
What are you exactly trying to do ?
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He's trying to tether his phones connection like in a incognito mode so T-Mobile can't notice it. They will just think he's using regular data.
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mattoaida said:
I'm running cm10.1 and I want a WiFi tether that my carrier can't see (T-Mobile). Anyone know of a WiFi tethering app that works I tried a few and no work.
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why not just use the native tethering built into cm10? works for me...
trentreed said:
why not just use the native tethering built into cm10? works for me...
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Because it doesn't do what he needs..
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Neefy said:
Because it doesn't do what he needs..
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And I was thinking maybe he didn't know it was built in.
Perhaps you know something i don't.
trentreed said:
And I was thinking maybe he didn't know it was built in.
Perhaps you know something i don't.
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But t mobile will see me tethering with CyanogenMod is there a stealth WiFi teather
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mattoaida said:
But t mobile will see me tethering with CyanogenMod is there a stealth WiFi teather
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no. you can try playing with the user agent, but theyll probably still see you. sometimes they wont even try to stop you, other times they are very strict. as of lately, theyre pretty diigent about stopping tethering if you dont pay for it.
I was on Tmos Value Plan (no tethering) and received several text messages about needing to add mobile hotspot before they blocked access to Internet Explorer via tethering (although could do anything else on my Windows 7 laptop)
Called support and they switched me to simple Choice while keeping my current contract term intact to avoid a migration fee. I haven't hit the 500MB tethering mark (I'm on the unlimited data plan) accordingly to data usage stats in Android so well see if they can truly track my hotspot usage (T-mobile says they can but I know it's not possible on the Nexus 4)
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pwc realtor said:
..so well see if they can truly track my hotspot usage(T-mobile says they can but I know it's not possible on the Nexus 4)
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this is not true. they can. you are using their network, they know all about you, and what you are doing on their network. all your data is going through their network. all the information about your device, what its doing, all its identifiers, are being watched by tmobile. otherwise, they wouldnt let you onto their network. what makes you think that they cant track a nexus 4??
simms22 said:
this is not true. they can. you are using their network, they know all about you, and what you are doing on their network. all your data is going through their network. all the information about your device, what its doing, all its identifiers, are being watched by tmobile. otherwise, they wouldnt let you onto their network. what makes you think that they cant track a nexus 4??
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On most current t-mobile branded phones tethering is done via a proprietary hotspot app that tells t-mobile you are tethering, checks to see if your account can do mobile hotspot, and how much tethering data is being used. Nexus devices do not do this and therefore t-mobile only knows about tethering via useragent strings.
Also I checked my account online and T-mobile has nothing set up there to tell unlimited data users how much of their 500mb hotspot data cap they've used. If the network was able to track that wouldn't they show it in usage stats?
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Im on 30$ a month prepaid plan and native tethering works fine for me, even thou I don't have a thethering plan with tmo, try barnicle WiFi If that dosbr work
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IRX120 said:
Im on 30$ a month prepaid plan and native tethering works fine for me, even thou I don't have a thethering plan with tmo, try barnicle WiFi If that dosbr work
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I tried barnacle WiFi it doesn't work for me does it work for you
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Tmobile cracking down on tethering

Going through a vpn doesn't seem to work anymore. If you're not rooted the hotspot data on the TMobile Myaccount app still increases even when your tablet uses a vpn. And they sent me a message saying hotspot data getting clise to 5GB. Though I used like 40GB already?
Anyone else have that hapoen.
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Just change the apn to ipv4 . VPN use just masks if you are using a non android browser if they sniff your browser header.
I as lready had it with ipv4 and I'm using a vpn but whereas before last week t he hotspot data usage didn't increase when I used a vpn but now even with a vpn thr hot as pot data usage increases. Is this happening to anyone else?
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hmmm. not here, my son used over 100 gb last week, he still has 5gb left on his hotspot.
doctorwhony said:
Going through a vpn doesn't seem to work anymore. If you're not rooted the hotspot data on the TMobile Myaccount app still increases even when your tablet uses a vpn. And they sent me a message saying hotspot data getting clise to 5GB. Though I used like 40GB already?
Anyone else have that hapoen.
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What ROM are you on ?
I ended up using my tethered data when I installed Echo Rom.
Stock, not rooted
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neonsector said:
hmmm. not here, my son used over 100 gb last week, he still has 5gb left on his hotspot.
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100 gigs in a week how in the hell ...
CheesyNutz said:
100 gigs in a week how in the hell ...
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Porn
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Porn
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