Id like to tether on the Nexus 4 rarely, but it might use a chunk of data. Is there a way to do so without them detecting it? I know a lot of people frown upon asking these questions, but id like to know
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Haha! It probably is going to be very difficult without actually hacking into their servers. And once you are caught I doubt the trouble you would get if you get caught will be fun. So in short, maybe if you are a 1337 h4x0r.
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shadehh said:
Haha! It probably is going to be very difficult without actually hacking into their servers. And once you are caught I doubt the trouble you would get if you get caught will be fun. So in short, maybe if you are a 1337 h4x0r.
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So the tethering apps cant spoof the traffic to look like its mobile?
They detect you by sniffing for your browser "User Agent".
1) Use an encrypted VPN tunnel as your default gateway.
2) Use HTTPS URL's
3) Change your browser User Agent
Are 3 ideas that come to mind.
Easy? I'd you enable wireless hotspot under data, it works great! I use it sometimes, never had issues. I had a family emergency last week and my mom literally had to fly to Russia same day we found something out. Long story short I ended up driving to her house and helping her with everything. She had to unlock her iPhone 5 on sprint so that she could get a Sim over there temporarily.
Reset the iPhone and we had to leave to the airport. Since I cloud doesn't do anything over mobile network, I had to make my nexus into a hotspot while we drove, besides tmo is like 100x faster than sprint. Anyway, all was well, at the the end of the day my data usage shows 2gb worth of data, no problems.
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Vpnbook.com if you're lazy
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I really don't think T-mobile cares as much as you are thinking. I use my phone to tether to my xbox and tablet quite a lot since my wifi sucks, and they haven't said anything. I think it might be that they don't monitor prepaid plans as closely, but what's the worst that could happen?
Without a data plan or without a tethering plan? There are ways to tether without a tethering plan such as VPN.
What if I connected my phone to my home VPN and funneled all traffic through there?
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yesterday i found new galaxy s3 ))))))))
If you don't overdo it, T-Mobile won't bug you.
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yesterday i found new galaxy s3 ))))))))
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I'm curious how it learns home/work and traffic patterns if I never have it on Wifi in the car. I usually do, but if my data plan gets used up to much will it still be able to perform without an internet or no?
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I'm curious how it learns home/work and traffic patterns if I never have it on Wifi in the car. I usually do, but if my data plan gets used up to much will it still be able to perform without an internet or no?
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My technical knowledge on the issue is limited, but I'm going to guess.
Even if there is no wifi data connection, the device can still see SSIDs broadcast from any wifi networks it comes into contact with. It could log these networks and store them. Then when a data connection is re-established it can figure out where the wifi networks located, and combine that with GPS info, which needs no wifi data connection to work, to figure out your route.
Again, just a guess.
Ah. Well I had no net just now and WiFi was off and it picked up my traffic pattern just fine. So I don't know what to think lol.
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sevron said:
Ah. Well I had no net just now and WiFi was off and it picked up my traffic pattern just fine. So I don't know what to think lol.
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Google sees everything, anywher you are
Seriously though, it probably logs what you do, stores info locally when you're connected (weather, directions, etc.) and then, gives you the info when you need it, and updates once you're connected again.
Kinda makes you a bit concerned for the day machines become self-aware.
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Ah. Well I had no net just now and WiFi was off and it picked up my traffic pattern just fine. So I don't know what to think lol.
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Connects before you go and when you arrive. Google maps can tell you how long it takes to go from A to B. Why shouldn't it be able to reverse it?
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johnhaskell said:
Kinda makes you a bit concerned for the day machines become self-aware.
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Are you sure they can't now and just are playing dumb?
It has GPS.
mewantnexus7 said:
It has GPS.
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Never have it on. Waste of power.
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Created a hotspot on my rooted nexus 4. My computer can connect but can't get internet access.I have at&t. Do I need special settings?
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Created a hotspot on my rooted nexus 4. My computer can connect but can't get internet access.I have at&t. Do I need special settings?
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It could be a feature not enabled in your plan. I would check there first
It's not part of my plan. I'm trying to do it "on the sly".
I was hoping I could get Wi-Fi tether to make the Nexus 4 appear as an access point, and not ad-hoc, but I haven't been able to get it to do that. Anyone else had luck?
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Can anyone help?? I've looked everywhere. I can connect to the hotspot, just not to the internet. Same thing happens with the hotspot on my Galaxy Tab. Both are with ATT.
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Can anyone help?? I've looked everywhere. I can connect to the hotspot, just not to the internet. Same thing happens with the hotspot on my Galaxy Tab. Both are with ATT.
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AT&T actively blocks teather if you don't pay for it. Not sure of a work around as they are blocking it from there end not the phones end. That said some of the thethering apps claim to be able to defeat this, the one Koush made, clockworkmod tether, comes to mind but it only has a 14 day free trial, $4.99 after that. It also requires a desktop client to be installed. Also is this plain AT&T or Straight Talk AT&T? Straight Talk limits you to 100 MB of data per day with a 2 GB cap. If you go over either they throttle you to 2G speeds for the rest of the month.
Regular ATT, not straight talk. Looks like the clockworkmod tether is usb only.....
Try WiFi tether for android.
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Try WiFi tether for android.
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Tried it.
possibly APN settings?
Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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I've tethered plenty of times on Tmobile with no issues, don't even bother to change the useragent on my browser when I do. Sounds like you've been doing it either very frequently or using excessive bandwidth and they caught on to you. Knowing it's a service they charge extra for you coulda been more careful .
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I've tethered plenty of times on Tmobile with no issues, don't even bother to change the useragent on my browser when I do. Sounds like you've been doing it either very frequently or using excessive bandwidth and they caught on to you. Knowing it's a service they charge extra for you coulda been more careful .
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That's kinda crazy! I just checked my bill and I used 5 gigs last month and 1.6 so far this billing cycle. Doesnt seem to extreme to me!
How much of that usage was tethering?
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Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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Oh yeah they can tell. I got a push text (not a normal one) on my cm10.1 yelling at me about tethering, only after 30 seconds of viewing a webpage. I was able to use my hidemyass vpn and not a peep.
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How much of that usage was tethering?
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According to Data Usage in Settings (I assume it is all reported under Tethering and portable hot spot? Or does it also report as browser?):
This month: 140MB
Last month: 334MB
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According to Data Usage in Settings (I assume it is all reported under Tethering and portable hot spot? Or does it also report as browser?):
This month: 140MB
Last month: 334MB
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I'm wondering with the 500mb of tethering included with unlimited if they are going to be doing good less random checks. Have you thought about switching to or making sure your on the new plan?
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I'm wondering with the 500mb of tethering included with unlimited if they are going to be doing good less random checks. Have you thought about switching to or making sure your on the new plan?
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I just signed a 2 year contract so I dont think I can change plans I signed to get the free nexus 4 promo
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I just signed a 2 year contract so I dont think I can change plans I signed to get the free nexus 4 promo
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Use a vpn tmobile packet sniffs your browsers user agent so say chrome for Windows pops up on their tower that's how they find out
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Change your browser's "User Agent" (addon/plugin) to android or some other mobile device. That way, Tmo will think you're using data on your mobile and you won't get flagged for hotspot tethering.
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Change your browser's "User Agent" (addon/plugin) to android or some other mobile device. That way, Tmo will think you're using data on your mobile and you won't get flagged for hotspot tethering.
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Thanks guys, I've installed an add on to Chrome on my desktop and changed by user agent to Chrome/Nexus 4. Tested it out on a wired connection and most web sites seem to be going to the mobile version, so I think it is working.
However, it looks like as I was experimenting trying to get around the block, they have completely disabled tether all together. Got another text that said wifi tether was been blocked. I can connect, but before I was at least getting a t-moble splash page. Now I get no internet connection at all. Hopefully they re-enable in a few days or by next billing cycle.
Are you using an app to tether or built in method
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BrianDigital said:
Are you using an app to tether or built in method
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I tried both WiFi tether apk and built in
Does anyone know if Koush's tether app gets around this?
And what about using a VPN, is that a solid solution?
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Does anyone know if Koush's tether app gets around this?
And what about using a VPN, is that a solid solution?
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It should be or it could be my luck, my idea is. If tmobile can't see your packets then they can't tell what you're doing
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I'm running cm10.1 and I want a WiFi tether that my carrier can't see (T-Mobile). Anyone know of a WiFi tethering app that works I tried a few and no work.
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What are you exactly trying to do ?
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What are you exactly trying to do ?
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He's trying to tether his phones connection like in a incognito mode so T-Mobile can't notice it. They will just think he's using regular data.
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I'm running cm10.1 and I want a WiFi tether that my carrier can't see (T-Mobile). Anyone know of a WiFi tethering app that works I tried a few and no work.
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why not just use the native tethering built into cm10? works for me...
trentreed said:
why not just use the native tethering built into cm10? works for me...
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Because it doesn't do what he needs..
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Because it doesn't do what he needs..
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And I was thinking maybe he didn't know it was built in.
Perhaps you know something i don't.
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And I was thinking maybe he didn't know it was built in.
Perhaps you know something i don't.
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But t mobile will see me tethering with CyanogenMod is there a stealth WiFi teather
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But t mobile will see me tethering with CyanogenMod is there a stealth WiFi teather
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no. you can try playing with the user agent, but theyll probably still see you. sometimes they wont even try to stop you, other times they are very strict. as of lately, theyre pretty diigent about stopping tethering if you dont pay for it.
I was on Tmos Value Plan (no tethering) and received several text messages about needing to add mobile hotspot before they blocked access to Internet Explorer via tethering (although could do anything else on my Windows 7 laptop)
Called support and they switched me to simple Choice while keeping my current contract term intact to avoid a migration fee. I haven't hit the 500MB tethering mark (I'm on the unlimited data plan) accordingly to data usage stats in Android so well see if they can truly track my hotspot usage (T-mobile says they can but I know it's not possible on the Nexus 4)
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pwc realtor said:
..so well see if they can truly track my hotspot usage(T-mobile says they can but I know it's not possible on the Nexus 4)
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this is not true. they can. you are using their network, they know all about you, and what you are doing on their network. all your data is going through their network. all the information about your device, what its doing, all its identifiers, are being watched by tmobile. otherwise, they wouldnt let you onto their network. what makes you think that they cant track a nexus 4??
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this is not true. they can. you are using their network, they know all about you, and what you are doing on their network. all your data is going through their network. all the information about your device, what its doing, all its identifiers, are being watched by tmobile. otherwise, they wouldnt let you onto their network. what makes you think that they cant track a nexus 4??
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On most current t-mobile branded phones tethering is done via a proprietary hotspot app that tells t-mobile you are tethering, checks to see if your account can do mobile hotspot, and how much tethering data is being used. Nexus devices do not do this and therefore t-mobile only knows about tethering via useragent strings.
Also I checked my account online and T-mobile has nothing set up there to tell unlimited data users how much of their 500mb hotspot data cap they've used. If the network was able to track that wouldn't they show it in usage stats?
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Im on 30$ a month prepaid plan and native tethering works fine for me, even thou I don't have a thethering plan with tmo, try barnicle WiFi If that dosbr work
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Im on 30$ a month prepaid plan and native tethering works fine for me, even thou I don't have a thethering plan with tmo, try barnicle WiFi If that dosbr work
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I tried barnacle WiFi it doesn't work for me does it work for you
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Had anyone suffered consequences for using data to much? Ever since I got my s4 I've been using 4g all the time listening to music from Google music Netflix etc. Last month I did about 10gb it's only been like 5 days on this month cycle and I'm already at 5.5gb so was wondering if I can see consequences or will I be good? Reason I have so much use is that I don't ever turn on my Wi-Fi since I have 4g I just leave it as is...in case you're wondering.
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Nope you are fine.
Unless you're roaming a lot, they will not say a thing. I was using far more than that this summer via the hotspot mod wireless tether, and they never bothered me about it.
nope thats the benefit of having sprint
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Ok thanks guys
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Like the above posters said you should be ok. I do know someone that was booted from sprint entirely for too much data used while roaming, lol. They get a little upset about that for sure.