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What do you want in the Note 3? Eventually, a new product comes out every year; and it doesn't necessarily mean it is better; and it doesn't necessarily mean it is a success, lol
The Note 3 will very likely feature the following:
Obviously, the Note 2 is under scrutiny by Apple; will Note 3 be out later next year, only the outcomes of the case between Apple and Samsung will tell
Obviously, the design of the Note 3 will be quite different; perhaps Flexible AMOLED Unbreakable Display (maybe not)--possibly same SuperAMOLED like Note 2 but with more pixels squeezed into one display?
Obviously, 5.5" screen display will be the same; Samsung Nailed It!
Obviously, 2GB RAM, 1080p Resolution with a ppi of ~440
Obviously, Samsung Exynos 5 5450 Quad-core (2 GHz or more)
Obviously, 13mp Camera
Obviously, A better battery will be there as seen between the Note 1 and Note 2 with wireless charging
Lastly, Obviously, Further Enhancements to S-Pen (Hardware and Software Enhancements)
Not to forget, The next iteration of Android OS and Samsung's Touchwiz 6.0
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Agree or Disagree?
What do you want in the Note 3?
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After CES 2013
SuperAMOLED HD similar to Note 2; but 1080p resolution with ~440ppi; 6.3"
Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (Forget Samsung's Plastic)
Exynos 5 Octa (1.8 GHz A15 & 1.2GHz A7 Quad-core Chips); More power-efficient
Mali-658
2GB RAM
13mp Camera
Obviously, slightly larger battery
Android's Lime OS
In a Alternate Universe; Flexible 5.5" AMOLED Display with Corning's Flexible Glass (Very unlikely in my opinion; will start appearing in early-2014)
So, what do you think?
1.crApple has nothing on samsung and will lose the case
2.nope unbreakable plastic screen like the one in the S4
3.With the S4 having 5" screen i doubt it i think they will try to set it further away maybe 5.7" not sure
4.yup
5. 1.9ghz? why? the current chips is crazy fast and the coming quad core A15 one is the bleeding edge of technology why need such high frequency to drain battery?
6.yup
7. (from me) this thread is kinda useless right now unless you are looking for "wish list" then it will be ok, other than that i see no use for this
The Note 99 will have a teleporter function, to beam you from one location to another
***Final***
I'm confident with the following,
Obviously, the Note 2 is under scrutiny by Apple; will Note 3 be out later next year, only the outcomes of the case between Apple and Samsung will tell
Obviously, the design of the Note 3 will be quite different; perhaps Flexible AMOLED Unbreakable Display (maybe not)--possibly same SuperAMOLED like Note 2 but with more pixels squeezed into one display?
Obviously, 5.5" screen display will be the same; Samsung Nailed It!
Obviously, 2GB RAM, 1080p Resolution with a ppi of ~440
Obviously, Samsung Exynos 5 5450 Quad-core (2 GHz or more)
Obviously, 13mp Camera
Obviously, A better battery will be there as seen between the Note 1 and Note 2 with wireless charging
Lastly, Obviously, Further Enhancements to S-Pen (Hardware and Software Enhancements)
Not to forget, The next iteration of Android OS and Samsung's Touchwiz 6.0
*Final Add to Rumorville Korea*
Who wants to bet? Lol. :cyclops:
5.7" screen
128gb build in
Build in HD proghector
4200 mlh battry
The same gps card as the N2
And .... I dont see a way to avoid a very hard rooting and modig change
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Something more in the lines of the following,
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iv-5125.php
Unbreakable Screen / Display? Looks Assuring,
Dai Nippon Printing’s new screen cover plastic
So even Samsung realizes a 700/800$ mobile phone should have an unbreakable display, but some idiots here don't!
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Explains why Samsung encourages their customers to buy flip covers and protective covers for the Note 2; comes in a variety of 'pretty' colors, lol
Not like Apple is any better, lol
I like how you keep using the word "obviously" when all you did was speculate. You obviously don't know what the word obviously means.
It's called Figure-of-Speech. :victory: Based on the Release Pattern of Samsung's New Products, obviously, the specifications mentioned above are very likely.
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I like how you keep using the word "obviously" when all you did was speculate. You obviously don't know what the word obviously means.
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Camera should be kept at 8MP!!
More megapixels is not the problem. It is the ability of the sensor to perform better harsher or dim light conditions. Even currently, we are nowhere close to getting all that we can out of a 8MP sensor. Higher megapixels just makes this worse. If the technology would improve for low light or better dynamic range, losing more photons, having less light information per pixel, or having more megapixels to process would just negate any technology gained if they put a 13 megapixel camera.
Take for example LG Optimus G. 13 megapixels, and the quality is just stunningly bad. This is the same sensor that Samsung tried to buy from Sony, but said Sony couldn't provide enough for production demands of the Note II. We seriously dodged a bullet. More like a shotgun blast.
Too soon for unbreakable glass.. there is a big market for cases and accessories. For example look at the iphone 5. Scratches easy. Almost everyone has a case lol...
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These replies are too funny. I agree with the OP on everything. Unbreakable glass would be great considering all of these freak accidents but I doubt it'll happen. Considering how expensive this phone is it should've already had unbreakable glass. 1080p screen will definitely be added, I think we're all sure of that.
I wonder when they will add the successor to Wireless N
At least 3GB of RAM, I highly doubt they'll leave it at 2 when there's already been rumors about 3GB phones in the Samsung labs.
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I would estimate no 3GB phones until '2' years from now
Battery life and battery capacity has been improved a lot since the Galaxy S1 and S2; I wouldn't be surprised to a see progress in battery technology by the time the next Note releases in the market
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At least 3GB of RAM, I highly doubt they'll leave it at 2 when there's already been rumors about 3GB phones in the Samsung labs.
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No 3GB iPhones maybe, but I'd bet anything the GS4 is coming this spring with at the very least 3GB of RAM.
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S4 will tell us better what Samsung will put on note 3
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http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...d-mwc-reveal?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Name: Galaxy Note 8.0
Product numbers: GT-N5100 (Wifi), GT-N5110 (Wifi/3G)
Battery: 4600mAh
Dimensions: 211.3x136.3x7.95mm
Weight: 330 grams
Screen: 8.0-inch Super Clear LCD @ 1280x800 resolution
Data: Quad-band EDGE, quad-band HSPA+ up to 21.1Mbps down, 5.76Mbps up (GT-N5110 only)
Cameras: 5MP rear, 1.3MP front
RAM: 2GB
Storage: 16/32GB options, expandable via microSD card
OS: Android 4.2 Jelly Bean
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smaller battery than the 7.7, no OLED screen and compared to the ipad mini, the benchmarks seem lower (there is a link on sammobile comparing them). I do hope the performance will be better. If priced right, should be a nice tablet, but I feel there might a lot of tablets introduced at MWC this year.
It seems like they are going for the budget tablet crowd this time, that is too bad but who can blame them with the success of the 200 dollar tablets.
I really wanted to get a 8-9 inch upgrade for the 7.7 but worse battery life and screen will probably be a deal breaker for me.
No need. Quite vanilla. Pass.
Seems that 7.7 is srill best buy Got mine today! Awesome tab, not small, not large, and ability to use as phone, just superb!
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SLCD... meh...
unless this one packs the new octa-core exynos that will be the time i may look into it
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TeeeJaay said:
SLCD... meh...
unless this one packs the new octa-core exynos that will be the time i may look into it
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rumor says same as Note 10.1 & 2
Doubt this will sway me over to upgrade. The specs look ****ty.
I just picked up a Nexus 10 and may eventually drop my 7.7 depending on usage scenarios. Lack of a completed CM rom (9, 10 or 10.1) due to Samsung is the main culprit. Maintainers for Exynos4 devices may not last much longer, which sucks ;[
on a brighter note, you can use it as your gps navigator, or you can even let the screen on for some time without worrying about burn ins.
Its not close. It simply sucks compared with the 7.7
Hopefully we'll get a JB update for our Tabs that will allow us to keep it long enough to see an update worth upgrading
Honestly Samsung can do better. Like a 1080p Super Amoled screen a battery a least the same size as the 7.7 (Come on the Note III is rumored to have a 5,000mA battery !! Bigger than this crap 8" Note !! Something' wrong there !), etc...
Would explain why Samsung are reluctant to provide the JB update for the 7.7 (at least not until these new tablets are available). 7.7 + JB would be tough to beat even with older processor
Guys the market has moved enormously since the 7.7 was announced and then launched.
When the 7.7 was announced the only real competition was Apple and the 7.7 was priced against the Ipad and component costs could therefore be quite high.
Since then prices for tablets have tumbled about 50% and as a consequence component costs have got squeezed.
While we all love the SuperA screens on our tabs I suspect the costings mean it's unlikely to be on another product anytime soon, everything after including phones has been Pentile screen AFAIK.
The next 'flexible' screen looks really interesting but I hate to think of the manufacturing cost and therefore how much the tablet will cost......
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I think breaking the current pixel barrier on 7 inch screens is something that all of the manufacturers are struggling with, especially with price expectations being what they are now compared to when the 7.7 was first released.
product sheet revealed also...Quad-Core 1.6 Ghz. Exynos, I'd imagine.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-young-galaxy-x-cover-2/
My guess...the slightly smaller battery & Super Clear LCD will put it right around $299-$349 price point
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product sheet revealed also...Quad-Core 1.6 Ghz. Exynos, I'd imagine.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-young-galaxy-x-cover-2/
My guess...the slightly smaller battery & Super Clear LCD will put it right around $299-$349 price point
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Any thoughts on how that display will compare to AMOLED?
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Any thoughts on how that display will compare to AMOLED?
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Comparison testing has shown AMOLED screens to have higher contrasts, deeper blacks, etc. Also better outside viewing & power consumption.
Not to say that Sony's Super Clear LCD is terrible...on the contrary, it can really shine in the right scenarios. I really think price point is the sole reason the Note 8.0 will be featuring it.
I'd be willing to place money on this being a sub $300 device
they should've made two of these, one aimed for the low-mid market (w/ LCD) and the one aimed for people with deep pocket
seriously, this is not a replacement for out 7.7 it's just another Note, just like the note 10.1 was made not as a replacement for Tab 10.1
Too bad, I was hoping for a 7.7 Note w/ the SAMOLED+ screen. I wouldn't even care as much about higher resolution, as I'm fine w/ the 7.7's and same specs as Note2 would satisfy me. What I do want is the stylus w/ airview, & MultiView as I sometimes wish my Note2 and 7.7 were one device.
^likewise, but what sammy did was lower down the bar just to compete with a lower spec'd iPad Mini, even our old 7.7 will whip the ipad easily, I've seen the mini, compared it side by side with my 7.7 and immediately, there's a striking difference in screen quality and resolution.
Then I remembered, the Galaxy tab 10.1 2 is another "DOWNGRADE" from the original 10.1
hey sammy should start making a new low budget tablet line tagged under NEBULA series LOL
well... at least it still has the earpiece?
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/24/leaked-samsung-galaxy-note-8-0/
honestly i am not sure who to blame here. Google decided to use a horrible ui for all tablets from 4.2 forward essentially using just a enlarged phone ui.
So in response samsung just made a huge phone hardware...
5.7 full hd display
3gb ram
13mp camera and many more
The next generation Galaxy Note phablet from Samsung is one of the most anticipated devices of the year, so understandably rumors about it aren't hard to come by. According to latest report the Galaxy Note III will be announced two days before IFA 2013 kicks off - on September 4.
The report also says Samsung Galaxy Note III is said to sport a 5.7" Super AMOLED display, rather than the 6" unit that was most frequently mentioned so far. The 1080p resolution is still expected to feature a Snapdragon 800 chipset or an Exynos 5 Octa processor along with 3 GB of RAM.
Furthermore, the third generation Galaxy Note phablet is said to come out with a 13 megapixel rear camera and will be slightly thinner than the Galaxy Note II with its profile measuring 8mm.
Unfortunately, there is no official word from Samsung just yet, but the IFA 2013 launch seems inevitable, considering the strong competition in the phablet club.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_iii_to_be_unveiled_at_ifa_2013_-news-6327.php
I'm still sporting my Infuse and will be in line for one of these. Just became available for an upgrade.....great timing.
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5.7 and 1080p 99% pentile , with a so so chip that will have the same relative 3D power than the note at 720p.
Skipping to note 3.
Call me again when they launch a 1080p non-pentile with better processor and 6" without bezel to put the frontal samsung logo.
As I feared, the Note 3 will be a minor update to the Note 2. Samsung needs to bring a new phablet to remain competitive in this market segment and so it decided to fit the S4's camera, fit a new processor with dubious real life performance improvement, slightly increase the size of the screen and make it FHD to keep it up with the Joneses. Big deal...
Note 4, please.
This does NOT make me anxious for the Note 3 to be released.
Seems they want me to pay hundreds of dollars just to upgrade to a 1080p display that's slightly larger, and I bet we'll lose A LOT of battery life too (because of the bigger/higher resolution display).
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/18/first-alleged-samsung-galaxy-note-iii-images-surface/
Did you guys check this? I hope its fake. Plz samsung change the designnn.
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People will not go for Note 3 for any minor updates. I have seen lots who are selling their good old Samsung and going for Xolo and MicroMax in India.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
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People will not go for Note 3 for any minor updates.
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I tend to agree with you. Of course there are always consumers who want to have the latest phone, but considering the price tag and that the Note series consumer is, IMO, a bit more tech savvy than the S series consumer, I believe that the Note 3 sales will be disappointing.
I look at the price of my Note 2 and the price tag of my laptop and they are about the same. When people look at the size of my Note 2 and ask "is that a cellphone?" I always answer: "actually, it is a pocket computer that also makes phone calls", 'cause that's the way I see my Note 2 (and in that perspective, 5.5" isn't too big).
Now, I'm not going to sell my laptop just because the new generation has some minor hardware updates. I don't really need them and it does not make any financial sense to spend money on a new laptop when my current one suits my needs perfectly. Specially in these times when we must think twice before spending our money. This reasoning also applies to my "pocket computer that also makes phone calls", i.e., my Note 2.
The two things that I really miss in my everyday use of the Note 2 is a slightly bigger screen to take notes, browse and read PDFs, and improved sunlight legibility. A camera with better low light quality and an image stabilizer that actually works would also be handy. The Note 3 brings none of this. Hence, I'll save my money for whatever future device offers me the features I really need, Samsung or not.
kersh said:
5.7 and 1080p 99% pentile , with a so so chip that will have the same relative 3D power than the note at 720p.
Skipping to note 3.
Call me again when they launch a 1080p non-pentile with better processor and 6" without bezel to put the frontal samsung logo.
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+1.
I'm really disappointed in Note III specs, I'm already looking for this beast: Sony Xperia Z Ultra :good:
I used Note 2 since the first day it was released, which makes it about almost 10 months old already. And to me, with the direction Samsung is heading by releasing so many variants, S4 Zoom, S4 Active, S4 Snap 800, S4 LTE Snap 600, S4 GSM Octa and so on makes me wanna puke, and I'm pretty sure there'll be at least 2-3 variants of Note 3. Hence, for once, I'm going to the brand that I hated so much last year, but now I've come to respect in terms of developer support and that is Sony. I'll go with Xperia Z Ultra. I don't need the S-Pen since I've used it for less than 50 times, so with Z Ultra, if I need to jot down notes, I'll take some pen or pencil and be done with it.Plus, the ROMs will have less bloatware too :victory::victory::victory: and that's an epic win for me
Or maybe, just maybe, we could actually wait for Samsung to reveal Note 3, and then discus on specs and if it's worth of upgrade.
I don't think I will upgrade to the Note III. I am getting my Note II in a few days, but I have used the Note II since launch date since I bought one for my dad. I am sure we can see a 2.3-2.5 GHz Snapdragon 800 or Exynos Octa Core Processor with 13 MP camera, 1080p resolution, a screen around 5.9", 2-4 GB of RAM (probably 3), 3600-3800 mAh battery, upgraded S-Pen support, a bunch of the S4 features, some unique features for the Note III, non-pentile display too, etc. The only things that I see as an upgrade are the processor and RAM really. The screen resolution is nice, but it is not necessary/ground breaking to have for app usage since devs support many devices. The camera will be amazing like the S4's, the battery life will be compensating the increase in screen resolution power. I wouldn't be surprised if we see three Note III's, an LTE model, an international HSPA+ (N7200), and LTE-Advanced model.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Clearer-image-of-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-III-leaks_id45553
Latest from rumours.
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Alexei Volkoff said:
IOf course there are always consumers who want to have the latest phone, but considering the price tag and that the Note series consumer is, IMO, a bit more tech savvy than the S series consumer, I believe that the Note 3 sales will be disappointing.
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There will be people who always need to buy any model or brand as I do see a good sales being an authorised reseller for many brands, but the market prediction is low on Note 3. Just need to wait and watch..
snrama said:
There will be people who always need to buy any model or brand as I do see a good sales being an authorised reseller for many brands, but the market prediction is low on Note 3. Just need to wait and watch..
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I cautiously agree.
But at the end of the day, the stats on the final product will make it or break it I think. Every website is throwing out any rumor that they can find, and I'm not believing most of it.
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I cautiously agree.
But at the end of the day, the stats on the final product will make it or break it I think. Every website is throwing out any rumor that they can find, and I'm not believing most of it.
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true, not only website.. even the so called "branded companies" throws a lot of rumors :good:, personal experience!
I also used the Note 2 since launch date (10 months). The more I use it the more i appreciate it for it's battery life, performance and a nice big screen. I never had a phone that I liked this much. I usually own a phone for 2 years so this should last me till Note 4.
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I also used the Note 2 since launch date (10 months). The more I use it the more i appreciate it for it's battery life, performance and a nice big screen. I never had a phone that I liked this much. I usually own a phone for 2 years so this should last me till Note 4.
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I have had this note 2 for less than a month and I love it. Will get the note 3 because I know it will use the new Arm processor. I really think it sucks that Sammy used basically the same from the note 2 except for more ram and two more cores.
When you look at what is everything with Snapdragon quad, you can see how much more performance it provides.
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The mods have permitted us a sticky thread dedicated to discussion other devices. Let's try to focus these discussions there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2376459
Check this out...new gen exynos octa core..3 gb dram...just wait for upcoming note 3
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...emory-unit-may-debut-in-galaxy-note-3-1168344
Just a poll: if your note 2 is still in good working condition, will you upgrade when note 3 comes out?
No. I have my Note 2 for 7 months. I go for the Note 5.
No. I'll only consider buying new one, if they manage to create screen that will be perfect visible in direct sunlight. Apart from that, I don't see a reason to buy next gen note. Note2 is a beast, that run perfect for me.
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No. I'll only consider buying new one, if they manage to create screen that will be perfect visible in direct sunlight. Apart from that, I don't see a reason to buy next gen note. Note2 is a beast, that run perfect for me.
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I second that. I tried taking pictures of my car with my Note 2 to send to someone interested in buying it and they call came out looking like crap because I couldn't make out what was on the screen even though the sun wasn't hitting the screen directly. Give me a phone with a super-bright screen mode (even if it reduces the battery life to three hours or less) so I can use the camera outdoors!
mudge
Absolutely.
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Without a shadow of a doubt. Using an iPhone 5 now, like the experience but its very claustrophobic with the tiny display. Been waiting for the note 3 since the Note 2 was released and will definitely upgrade on day 1.
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YES I WILL I CAN'T WAIT
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The rumored specs looked fine to me. I was jumping down to s4 but skipped it cz of bugs. Now I know that note 3 will carry all the cool features from s4, so I will surely go.
Not much difference between note 2 and note 3..2gb RAM of note 2 is more than enough and same is true for CPU and camera
i will wait for note 4/5 because i will consider that as upgrade
some people just got for new one even if their current phone satisfy all their needs
It's a big difference... And I will buy day 1
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I'll wait until the official announcement and then make a decision. We have no real details at present.
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I wont
Or depends on built quality also now
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Here are my thoughts; maybe they'll help others deciding whether to leave the N2 for the N3. First, the N2’s been the best phone I’ve ever owned. Its combination of features and performance make it a great all-around device. I’m one of the few that actually use S Pen, S Note, multiview, the Pop up browser, Samsung Link, KiesAir and quite a few of Samsung’s other s/w features. I’m going to get a N3 as soon as I can, probably the Octa/Mali version. If the S-800 international version supports global LTE than I may get it instead. I have no interest in a U.S. carrier version of the N3.
Here are my main reasons for switching:
Performance – While the N2’s no slouch more is always better; especially from the GPU. I’m sure that the N3 having twice the pixel count of the N2 is going to offset some of that performance but it should still be a noticeably smoother device. That’s in spite of the boat load of additional s/w “tricks” that will most likely be included which is why I’m betting Samsung’s upped the RAM to 3GB (which in retrospect they should have done with the SGS4). The RAM on the N3 is also supposed to be faster than the SGS4.
32GB of Storage – Even though I’m sure we’ll be paying for it via a higher MSRP I’m thrilled that the N3 will start at 32GB (assuming the rumor’s true). It’s great that Samsung created an A2SD feature starting with the SGS4 but it does you know good on certain DRM protected apps that won’t/don’t recognize external storage.
The Camera – 13MP with OIS and potentially a Xenon flash sounds terrific. It’ll most likely be the Exmor RS sensor from Sony which has gotten great reviews from i9500 users (the i9505 uses the older Exmor R sensor).
Battery – A 3,450mAh battery is kick-ass and, based on Octa/S-600 in the SGS4, should deliver 25% better battery life over the N2 in spite of all Samsung’s additional sensors and the extra pixels from the 1080P display. Pack a spare battery and you could be away from an outlet for two days easy with a N3.
Software – I like Samsung’s gimmicks. Some are incredibly useful while others are cool “just because you can.” The N3 will have all the S4’s new s/w and then some. The N3 will keep me entertained for hours just playing with it. Samsung also registered a new URL (samsungpenup.com) that could mean they are finally investing in S Note and potentially making it multi-platform so you can open and edit S Notes on non-Samsung windows PCs.
Here are some reasons I wouldn’t switch:
720P vs. 1080P – At 12-15” away the human eye can’t resolve the detail between the two. With the N2’s large display I find I typically hold it further away anyway. I’m sure the N3’s display will be an upgrade in image reproduction but the additional pixels alone don’t sway me. The N2’s got a great non-PenTile display and I have no complaints with it.
5.5” vs. 5.68” – The bump in size may seem larger in everyday use but it’s not big enough (at least to me) to justify replacing the N2 for it. If Samsung plays with the DPI so that you can get more on the display (5 rows of icons vs. 4) that would be interesting. A higher quality larger display with more on it is more attractive than a fractional bump in size. I also don’t think anything over 5.68” is necessary to ink and view multiple apps and am glad Samsung didn’t throw the N3 in to the “colossus wars” like Sony, LG, and HTC have.
Design/Size – Unless Samsung’s got some surprises in store I’d bet the N3 will follow in the SGS4’s footsteps – more stuff, bigger display, smaller and/or lighter package. That’s cool to have but I’m fine with both the N2’s size and design.
Here’s why I wouldn’t leave Samsung for HTC, Sony, Motorola or LG:
Samsung’s Mass – Developers of mass market apps launch stuff for Samsung devices first and best. Samsung devices represent the largest audiences available and they tend to be more thorough in their testing for it. Here’s an example. My cable company has a “watch live TV app.” It works on iOS and one Android device; Samsung’s Note-series so I have it on my N2 and Note 10.1.
They Make Cool Stuff – WatchOn’s brilliant if you have a Samsung SmartTV. Not only can you use WatchOn to find stuff easily and control the TV their newer TV’s have AllShare Cast built-in as well as Samsung Link and the ability (on higher-end models) to watch content (including DRM protected) on your Samsung mobile device.
Samsung Link is life changing. It’s your own personal network that allows all your devices to be accessible to each other all the time. For mobile devices that includes over 3/4G. For example, if I’m on 3G with my Note 10.1 and want to pull a Word document off my home server all I need to do is access it via Samsung link. Same goes if I want to move pics taken on my phone to my tablet.
All the above is of course a YMMV. I love Samsung’s s/w and there are tons of people that couldn’t live without AOSP and the “pureness” of whatever Google’s serving up. Also a ton of people bought the N2 because of the size of its display and could care less about inking and Samsung's additional features. For them there will be a ton of additional giant phone choices this year. For people like me the only reason I have a giant phone is because of things like S Note/S Pen so there really isn't another choice; at least not based on what's been announced/leaked so far.
Happy decision making and enjoy whatever your choice may be.
Damn BarryH....great synopsis!
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Here are my thoughts; maybe they'll help others deciding whether to leave the N2 for the N3. First, the N2’s been the best phone I’ve ever owned. Its combination of features and performance make it a great all-around device. I’m one of the few that actually use S Pen, S Note, multiview, the Pop up browser, Samsung Link, KiesAir and quite a few of Samsung’s other s/w features. I’m going to get a N3 as soon as I can, probably the Octa/Mali version. If the S-800 international version supports global LTE than I may get it instead. I have no interest in a U.S. carrier version of the N3.
Here are my main reasons for switching:
Performance – While the N2’s no slouch more is always better; especially from the GPU. I’m sure that the N3 having twice the pixel count of the N2 is going to offset some of that performance but it should still be a noticeably smoother device. That’s in spite of the boat load of additional s/w “tricks” that will most likely be included which is why I’m betting Samsung’s upped the RAM to 3GB (which in retrospect they should have done with the SGS4). The RAM on the N3 is also supposed to be faster than the SGS4.
32GB of Storage – Even though I’m sure we’ll be paying for it via a higher MSRP I’m thrilled that the N3 will start at 32GB (assuming the rumor’s true). It’s great that Samsung created an A2SD feature starting with the SGS4 but it does you know good on certain DRM protected apps that won’t/don’t recognize external storage.
The Camera – 13MP with OIS and potentially a Xenon flash sounds terrific. It’ll most likely be the Exmor RS sensor from Sony which has gotten great reviews from i9500 users (the i9505 uses the older Exmor R sensor).
Battery – A 3,450mAh battery is kick-ass and, based on Octa/S-600 in the SGS4, should deliver 25% better battery life over the N2 in spite of all Samsung’s additional sensors and the extra pixels from the 1080P display. Pack a spare battery and you could be away from an outlet for two days easy with a N3.
Software – I like Samsung’s gimmicks. Some are incredibly useful while others are cool “just because you can.” The N3 will have all the S4’s new s/w and then some. The N3 will keep me entertained for hours just playing with it. Samsung also registered a new URL (samsungpenup.com) that could mean they are finally investing in S Note and potentially making it multi-platform so you can open and edit S Notes on non-Samsung windows PCs.
Here are some reasons I wouldn’t switch:
720P vs. 1080P – At 12-15” away the human eye can’t resolve the detail between the two. With the N2’s large display I find I typically hold it further away anyway. I’m sure the N3’s display will be an upgrade in image reproduction but the additional pixels alone don’t sway me. The N2’s got a great non-PenTile display and I have no complaints with it.
5.5” vs. 5.68” – The bump in size may seem larger in everyday use but it’s not big enough (at least to me) to justify replacing the N2 for it. If Samsung plays with the DPI so that you can get more on the display (5 rows of icons vs. 4) that would be interesting. A higher quality larger display with more on it is more attractive than a fractional bump in size. I also don’t think anything over 5.68” is necessary to ink and view multiple apps and am glad Samsung didn’t throw the N3 in to the “colossus wars” like Sony, LG, and HTC have.
Design/Size – Unless Samsung’s got some surprises in store I’d bet the N3 will follow in the SGS4’s footsteps – more stuff, bigger display, smaller and/or lighter package. That’s cool to have but I’m fine with both the N2’s size and design.
Here’s why I wouldn’t leave Samsung for HTC, Sony, Motorola or LG:
Samsung’s Mass – Developers of mass market apps launch stuff for Samsung devices first and best. Samsung devices represent the largest audiences available and they tend to be more thorough in their testing for it. Here’s an example. My cable company has a “watch live TV app.” It works on iOS and one Android device; Samsung’s Note-series so I have it on my N2 and Note 10.1.
They Make Cool Stuff – WatchOn’s brilliant if you have a Samsung SmartTV. Not only can you use WatchOn to find stuff easily and control the TV their newer TV’s have AllShare Cast built-in as well as Samsung Link and the ability (on higher-end models) to watch content (including DRM protected) on your Samsung mobile device.
Samsung Link is life changing. It’s your own personal network that allows all your devices to be accessible to each other all the time. For mobile devices that includes over 3/4G. For example, if I’m on 3G with my Note 10.1 and want to pull a Word document off my home server all I need to do is access it via Samsung link. Same goes if I want to move pics taken on my phone to my tablet.
All the above is of course a YMMV. I love Samsung’s s/w and there are tons of people that couldn’t live without AOSP and the “pureness” of whatever Google’s serving up. Also a ton of people bought the N2 because of the size of its display and could care less about inking and Samsung's additional features. For them there will be a ton of additional giant phone choices this year. For people like me the only reason I have a giant phone is because of things like S Note/S Pen so there really isn't another choice; at least not based on what's been announced/leaked so far.
Happy decision making and enjoy whatever your choice may be.
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No... I will wait for note 4
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@ Barry, you wouldn't switch because of the display??? That's my main reason to switch. If you experience a 1080p display or should I say a 320+ Ppi display, you'll definitely notice the difference. Not that it breaks the experience on the note 2, far from it, but I would say that the display is definitely a main reason to upgrade because 1080p displays are NOTICEABLY better than 720p displays.
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Rajaasim1980 said:
Not much difference between note 2 and note 3..2gb RAM of note 2 is more than enough and same is true for CPU and camera
i will wait for note 4/5 because i will consider that as upgrade
some people just got for new one even if their current phone satisfy all their needs
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I have absolutly same opinion.
The decision is easy for me because I'm moving from S2. I was waiting for S4, but seeing my wife's N2 and the usefulness of the S Pen at that screen size, I decided to get a Note 3 at launch. Now, I'm deciding whether to sell my Note 10.1, since I find myself using the recently acquired 11" Macbook Air for most of my "work/entertainment from the couch" activities and there'll be some overlap between N3 and N10.1.
I'm not buying another phone until they either switch back to plastic screens, or develop one that doesn't break when you drop the thing. Cracking my Note 2 screen was devastating...
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You wouldn't switch because of the display??? That's my main reason to switch. If you experience a 1080p display or should I say a 320+ Ppi display, you'll definitely notice the difference.
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Not really. I've posted this before and you're probably tired of seeing it but it's true. Beyond a certain PPI the human eye can't resolve the additional detail. And where it can is limited to CGI and text not pictures and video which is explained in the article.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/10/1080p-on-a-smartphone-screencan-it-possibly-matter/
In every area outside resolution the HTC One's display is inferior to the One X's. People have become so hung up on PPI that they've stopped caring about the criteria that affects them most like consistency across displays, brightness, color temperature, contract, etc. I think the N3's display will be better than the N2's more because of improvements in AMOLED design and manufacturing than just PPI. The SGS4's display is significantly brighter than the N2's and the N3's will probably be more so because there's more battery to work with in terms of where Samsung can set max brightness.
Here's what AnandTech (who arean't big Samsung fans) said about the N2's display.
It’s tempting to look at the 1280x800 of the Note and the 1280x720 of the Note 2 and assume it’s lower resolution, when in fact the Note 2 has more subpixels (2.05 MP vs 2.76 MP) and in spite of the size increase stays around the magical 1 arcminute subtense (1.073 arcminutes on Note 2).The reference to 1 arcminute is significant. Anything below 1 arcminute can't be processed by the human eye at 12-15" away. The One and SGS4 have an arcminute subtense of .66 which is just a waste. That is unless someone holds the phone 12" or less away from their face and happen to be looking at text or icons. I think the improvements people are seeing on newer displays has less to do with PPI in some cases (SGS3 vs. SGS4) and more to do with advances in technology that impact overall display performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/8
The note 4 is out so I think that it is the next in line....
Any news guys?
I hope not! Releasing another note will make it that much easier for Samsung not update our tablet
They will I reckon but maybe in a couple of months time. Will be suprised if they don't ... All Samsung are doing at the bloody minute is releasing anything and everything.
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I hope not! Releasing another note will make it that much easier for Samsung not update our tablet
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I agree. Even without releasing new tablet, samsung (seems) already abandon the note 2014 users in Europe....
I don't think they will launch a new one. It already exists tab4 series and our tablet still carry the 2014 name, I guess maybe in January or February.
I don't think it will be until next year. The note 10.1 runs the same base platform as tab 's and tab pro. I reckon 1q15
I think it may change to SuperAMOLED screen for the next 10 incher note from Samsung.
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I think it may change to SuperAMOLED screen for the next 10 incher note from Samsung.
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AMOLED sucks on whites and most productivity and creation apps use light backgrounds. Here's the battery life of the S' on light backgrounds. I'll pass.
BarryH_GEG said:
AMOLED sucks on whites and most productivity and creation apps use light backgrounds. Here's the battery life of the S' on light backgrounds. I'll pass.
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Personally I will be willing to take the hit. My battery life on the Note 10.1 is more than enough for me ... I regularly top it up anyway and never too far from a power socket. But yeah the screen on the S is truely amazing if you ask me, the one thing I hate on the hardware side of our tablet is at night the blacks are terrible! I'm just used to my S3 blacks tbh. Anyhoo not that it matters I aint ganna buy a Samsung product anytime soon.
A Note S (actually probably three - 8.4, 10.1, and 12.2) with AMOLED should be next, but I doubt anything will happen before Samsung gets enough 20nm production going for its next-gen Exynos (which appears to be what's hiding inside the non-Qualcomm Note 4).
Also, they may be waiting for Apple's next-gen iPad and/or Android L.
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I agree. Even without releasing new tablet, samsung (seems) already abandon the note 2014 users in Europe....
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As soon as the 2014 came out Samsung practically forgot about the OG note 10.1.
Despite lackluster specs it had such potential. Its multitasking capabilities were superior, nav bar was welcomed. Instead a barely supported tablet with oodles of software bugs is it's legacy.
I swore I would never buy Samsung but I really did miss the spen. Only phone/tablet I ever ran stock(on purpose)
@md1008 ... yeah its a joke, I got KitKat few days ago and installed it yesterday. It just feels kinda pointless as Android L is around the corner.
I feel the same with Samsung - Not again.
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As soon as the 2014 came out Samsung practically forgot about the OG note 10.1.
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I wouldn't call bringing the N10.1-12 up to 4.4 "forgetting" it. I had a N10.1-12 before I bought the N10.1-14 when it first came out which means I used it on both 4.3 and 4.4. I'd take either over the N10.1-12. People seem to wax poetic over the N10.1-12 but, at least to me, the N10.1-14 is better in every way. A 147 PPI display is downright painful to use these days. Samsung's policy on backwardly updating their own s/w on older devices when newer versions are released on newer devices (EG: N2 getting N3 features, N10.1-12 getting N10.1-14 features) is simple . They don't. So if that's a big deal to people they either need to live with it or not buy Samsung's products. I doubt it'll change going forward.
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@md1008 ... yeah its a joke, I got KitKat few days ago and installed it yesterday. It just feels kinda pointless as Android L is around the corner.
I feel the same with Samsung - Not again.
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I wouldn't call bringing the N10.1-12 up to 4.4 "forgetting" it. I had a N10.1-12 before I bought the N10.1-14 when it first came out which means I used it on both 4.3 and 4.4. I'd take either over the N10.1-12. People seem to wax poetic over the N10.1-12 but, at least to me, the N10.1-14 is better in every way. A 147 PPI display is downright painful to use these days. Samsung's policy on backwardly updating their own s/w on older devices when newer versions are released on newer devices (EG: N2 getting N3 features, N10.1-12 getting N10.1-14 features) is simple . They don't. So if that's a big deal to people they either need to live with it or not buy Samsung's products. I doubt it'll change going forward.
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The update didn't come for months and I believe the US model did not receive update at least it didn't before I sold it a month or two ago, it was stuck on 4.1.2.
Spec wise the 2014 is far better(as it should be) I did prefer the multi window setup better than post jellybutton and the nav bar is I believe better than the stupid home button. Tablet UI was nice but tablet is no longer supported since kit Kat.
Frankly I thought the note 10.1(2012) could have been great but fell short in so many ways
In the UK the prices of the Note 10.1 2014 Edition have been slashed like crazy. Last week it was selling for £450 and now all major retailers selling for £330! ... and one of the major retailers who is even listed on Samsungs website (John Lewis) no longer even list the Note 10.1 2014 (they had slashed prices too before they took it offline).
Surely this must be signs of a new Note 10.1 in the works. Have prices dropped in US or anywhere else?
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The entry level Samsung tablets had/have sort of an eternal life, with terribly outdated hardware. So why should the Note not last for another year? Currently you could only employ a newer Snapdragon, slighly faster and w/64bit. An OLED i dont consider innovative, just different, with a taste of worse.
None of the 64-bit Snapdragons to date are faster - all are A53 only. I assume we'll get 64-bit Exynos+AMOLED Note refreshes as soon as Samsung's yields on 20nm improve. (The 5433 in the non-Qualcomme Note 4 is A57/A53 at 20nm disguised as a 32 bit processor.)
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None of the 64-bit Snapdragons to date are faster - all are A53 only. I assume we'll get 64-bit Exynos+AMOLED Note refreshes as soon as Samsung's yields on 20nm improve. (The 5433 in the non-Qualcomme Note 4 is A57/A53 at 20nm disguised as a 32 bit processor.)
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Yeah I reckon it will be AMOLED, Metal frame, Note 4 software and S-pen updates.
And obviously faster processor whatever it is.
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I must be jaded, I wouldn't consider another Samsung tablet or phone at this point.
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edthesped said:
I must be jaded, I wouldn't consider another Samsung tablet or phone at this point.
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I agree.
Plus this tablet should last another 2 years ... or I'm going to make it last haha.
By then we will hopefully have greater choice of none Samsung devices.