Starting to get bored of the stock look and feel. Any ROMs out there that may have To - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Don't get me wrong, I love stock. Just lately I want something a little different. Just to try. Maybe I would miss stock after that but is there anything out there that I could try?
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Paranoid android.

I'm the same, I love stock but I'm not sure if I should try something else, whats the difference in paranoid android?
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Avatar.
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I started to get bored too, I'm waiting for the official miui v5 release.

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I agree. I've used avatar before. If you want a different look this should fit your needs. Add this plus the newest miui launcher, which you can also theme (lock screen included) and you will have a completely different look. I liked it myself but find myself always going back to stock.
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I hopped onto paranoid android yesterday. The only thing bothering me so far is that the stock browser text size seems small??? What's going on? Any work around?

shadehh said:
I hopped onto paranoid android yesterday. The only thing bothering me so far is that the stock browser text size seems small??? What's going on? Any work around?
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change the dpi in hybrid settings.

You don't need to change rom's to completely change the way your phone looks. If you want to change rom's that's great and all, but I'd say that everything cool that you see on mycolorscreen.com can be achieved with the factory rom. You just have to use your imagination and think for yourself.

Lot of options!
monkey hung said:
Don't get me wrong, I love stock. Just lately I want something a little different. Just to try. Maybe I would miss stock after that but is there anything out there that I could try?
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If you look at the development you can find some Xperia (sony), Touchwiz (samsung), Blur (motorola) and even LG alike UI's themes on roms, just look at them at development thread. If you want something closer to stock I would recommend Asylum rom, its a darker version of CM10.1 with some improvements and daily updates
Try them and find the one you like the most! Then come and tell us your experience!

Yeah I have PA. There's really no launcher that I like since Nova and Apex change the dock size a little (too spaced out). I'll take a look at avatar ROM.
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best rom for nexus 7?

just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
mbrito41712 said:
just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
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The new team BAMF wrong is sooooo buttery! Running very smooth and stable for me
Ive been using Paul Obriens Jr# ROMs. theyre just tweaked stock ROMs, but I have never had a single issue so far and with every release there are new features without any new bugs. which is always nice.
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The new team BAMF wrong is sooooo buttery! Running very smooth and stable for me
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2nd'd
BAMF is my daily driver .. with Nova Launcher .. reeeeal smoove
Running skanky cm10 nightlies. Very stable, very happy
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BAMF is my daily driver .. with Nova Launcher .. reeeeal smoove
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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It ships with stock so run stock for a few weeks to establish a baseline for stability and speed before you go experimenting.
I would wait a couple months. Stock nexus 7 runs great. Just unlock and root it. After a couple months Roms will start to mature and you will also see which ones seem to be leading, me personally, I love to flash. But I, very happy with stock and nova launcher. There are some things I would like from full tablet ui. But every ROM is promising the world. Just waiting to see which ones take the lead.
So just wait for now. no rush, do you hate stock that much?
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Plus people are having some issues booting into recovery without a USB or adb
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Have tried just about all the popular ones out as of yet, favorite so far has to be TeamEOS' nightlies. Very stable, UI works great, launcher rotation, and has the ICS style status bar, which I prefer.
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I se quick boot - lets me soft boot into recovery - no messing around with USB cables
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Plus people are having some issues booting into recovery without a USB or adb
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I've been using the Pure AOSP rom, I used the stock for a couple of days and then switched, never looked back. There aren't a lot of differences between stock and the Pure AOSP, but the AOSP rom provides a cleaner starting point and the camera works by default.
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I'm currently running stock, I just rooted and unlocked so I'm set whenever the stable full roms start kicking in. No need to rush it, just stick with stock for now
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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I think you are right about that. Although I flash Roms on my galaxy note, I could not see the need on the nexus 7 because it runs better than any ROM I ever put on the note
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I keep trying new ones in hopes that it will somehow get even better, but keep returning to stock.
Nothing is as smooth.
Currently running stock, rooted, deodexed. With the tabletUI mod. Nova launcher. awesome.
I'm running BAMF Paradigm. It's absolutely an amazing blend of custom features that offer visual and performance related options to really make it your tablet, I'm very happy with it, I've run several others also. DEFINITELY recommend Motley's kernel, it's one of the things I love most about the nexus 7. Also Aaronpoweruser's (sp) cookies and cream rom ran really good for me.
Just go for a different kernel rather than ROM, I tried out Trinity today (only got the 7 yesterday) and I find its quite slick..
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I think you are right about that. Although I flash Roms on my galaxy note, I could not see the need on the nexus 7 because it runs better than any ROM I ever put on the note
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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Hundred percent agree. I have Paranoid Android on there just for the Tablet UI changes. I have found that Kernel Improvements do help drastically.
plain old pure aosp. its clean and fast, with the trinity kernel at least
Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2
mbrito41712 said:
just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
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I have only tried Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2 with motley kernel and I love it! Rock solid stability, amazing speed and great customization.
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I have only tried Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2 with motley kernel and I love it! Rock solid stability, amazing speed and great customization.
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I've also found that Glazed is the only ROM of the one's that I've tried so far that let's me use Amazon Instant Video from the Amazon web site.

Never though I'd say this..

..but shortly after I flashed CM9 stable, I kinda started to miss touchwiz a lot, so I had to nandroid back to it.
And I am the one who hates touchwiz.. (although, I use Nova as my launcher)
Never thought you would post this
By the way it happens always, aosp Rom doesn't suit all unless they are ready to compromise some features
《tapatalked from galaxy s3》
Never thought I'd see a thread created on this.
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I actually like Touchwiz on this phone, seriously. All previous versions annoyed me, but it is smooth and flows well on this phone.
Touchwiz is good and nice, but i think if the backgrounds were white (in the contacts and call log at least) it will be nicer
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Can understand you very well.
Have been an aosp freak before (or I'm still, but not at this device), but I'm pretty pleased with touchwiz now. Some ctl and build.prop tweaks and all works fine so far.
Also touchwiz has at the current stage already some small, but useful features build in like the battery percent or the pinch to overview at the appdrawer. Not to forget about the missing mhl support at cm10 which is a dealbreaker for me.
Additional I must confess that I don't like the attitude of team hacksung, even while their work is still much appreciated and they are for sure great developers, it seems to me they aren't doing it anymore because they like to do it, more because they think they have to. For sure it's annoying when noobs clutter the development thread with ridiculous posts, but that you have to expect at a device like the gs3 and the argument that they are doing it for free, yes, it sure makes their work more valuable, but at the same time, they knew it when they started.
My opinion is they or at least every member of their team on his own should focus on one device, maybe that way it would be less load for each developer and at the same time more benefits for the community.
Sry that I cluttered your thread, this I wanted to get of from me sometime ago.
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Additional I must confess that I don't like the attitude of team hacksung, even while their work is still much appreciated and they are for sure great developers, it seems to me they aren't doing it anymore because they like to do it, more because they think they have to. For sure it's annoying when noobs clutter the development thread with ridiculous posts, but that you have to expect at a device like the gs3 and the argument that they are doing it for free, yes, it sure makes their work more valuable, but at the same time, they knew it when they started.
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I kinda agree with you on this.
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Coming from a galaxy s phone, I remember wanting touch wiz back. The problem with touch wiz as opposed to HTC sense, is you can't retain the framework with a custom Rom. I feel there is more to gain from having a custom Rom than having full blown touch wiz. Look around though, you can probably find a .zip of the launcher here, so you can run a very close emulation of touch wiz on the Rom if your choice. I had a Rom on my captivate called "remics" which had galaxy s3 stock theming throughout the operating system. Just look around, you'll find what you want here on xda
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Samsung has come good features but they load it up with crap and its to much. Problem is it seems like an all or nothing situation
Same happenend to me I love touchwiz I flash back. Will go aosp when aokp is back on track .
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It's the hidden stuff I love in the new touchwiz, like the native mkv and other formats, stay awake, camera app, t9 dialler, swipe to message/call, reject a call with a message..... and loads more really well thought out features. Touchwiz isn't just the launcher. I use apex and have it looking how I want (stockish), yet retain all the samsung stuff. Why anyone would complain about touchwiz on the S3 is beyond me.
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Touchwiz is good and nice, but i think if the backgrounds were white (in the contacts and call log at least) it will be nicer
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There are some good dialler apps and message apps that have white backgrounds (or customisable) with the t9 dialling aswell. I can't remember the names, but you should have a look if you're interested.
The simple fact that I could not create folders in my app drawer made me flash back
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It's the hidden stuff I love in the new touchwiz, like the native mkv and other formats, stay awake, camera app, t9 dialler, swipe to message/call, reject a call with a message..... and loads more really well thought out features. Touchwiz isn't just the launcher. I use apex and have it looking how I want (stockish), yet retain all the samsung stuff. Why anyone would complain about touchwiz on the S3 is beyond me.
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This. I dusted off my galaxy nexus the other day because I thought I wanted to go back to it ... only phone with stable jellybean right now and all ... but two days with it and I was missing the s3 something almighty with all the "gimmicky" features that are actually very cool.
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This. I dusted off my galaxy nexus the other day because I thought I wanted to go back to it ... only phone with stable jellybean right now and all ... but two days with it and I was missing the s3 something almighty with all the "gimmicky" features that are actually very cool.
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Quite right. I'm planning to sell my nexus now. I think I'm getting over it.
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ceo.mtcl said:
Quite right. I'm planning to sell my nexus now. I think I'm getting over it.
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Don't sell it!
Flash boot 2 gecko on it like I did
Its my experimenting phone these days, building a JB rom to flash now.
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Don't sell it!
Flash boot 2 gecko on it like I did
Its my experimenting phone these days, building a JB rom to flash now.
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Gecko... I'm a little lost here friend... ???
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I am running Holo HD but I like touchwiz. Especially the icons, they did an amazing job on the icons. they look so nice now and not preschool like before. So I decided to keep using the touchwiz icons for holo.
Yeah, the thing I love with touchwiz is the message app (stock android'd message app is dead boring), the camera app and a bunch of other stuff.
What kinda is a dealbreaker for me which I can't really decide about is exFAT support. Dumbing down my 64gb microSDXC card kinda feels like a stupid thing to do. exFAT is much faster and allows big chunks to be handled at once (like 16 exabyte chucks instead of 4GB ones)
The whole idea with their Nature UX kinda appeals to me. Soothing alarm and ring tones and beautiful wallpapers. Much better than previous touchwiz's.
i like TouchWiz , tried it on both S2 and S3, i also tried CM9/CM10 on both
I hate the TouchWiz launcher, changing the launcher to something like nova solved my problems.
lol because of this I just reverted back to touchwiz from ADW.

Help needed: Looking for a rom

Hey All,
I'm looking for a rom and having trouble figuring out which one will best suit my needs. Typically, I would just download a bunch of roms and try them out, but I'm stuck in China with a low data ceiling on a very slow connection for the foreseeable future. I really need to be like 80% sure before I download.
I've been running CleanRom since the summer, and that has been a great experience, but CleanRom is no longer being developed, so I'm no longer up to date.
I want something with integrated tablet mode, and I would like something with a volume slider in the notification tray. Wifi toggle switch would also be ideal (I prefer not to use apps for these features). Aside from those features, I just need the most stable rom possible. Additional customization isn't necessary. In fact, pure stock outside of the features I listed would be great. And I'm obviously not looking for nightly builds. I want something to throw on here and leave on until the next Android update.
Does anyone know a rom that meets this criteria? If you have suggestions, I would love to hear them, and then I'll go read some threads.
I really appreciate the help.
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Check CM10 with Tablet UI, it should fit the needs you are looking for.
I have been using it since last 4 days and its been stable.No issues yet.
sahshah said:
Check CM10 with Tablet UI, it should fit the needs you are looking for.
I have been using it since last 4 days and its been stable.No issues yet.
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I was just flipping through that thread to see what people were saying. I appreciate the suggestion.
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Check Glazed Jellybean here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
I've been running this rom since 1.1.2 and have been very pleased with it. My current setup is Glazed JB 2.0 with the included Franco kernel, and Nova Launcher Prime for a launcher. I'm also using Pimp My Rom 2.0 for additional tweaks, but from the sounds of it you may not even want that.
Good luck in your search.
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Check Glazed Jellybean here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
I've been running this rom since 1.1.2 and have been very pleased with it. My current setup is Glazed JB 2.0 with the included Franco kernel, and Nova Launcher Prime for a launcher. I'm also using Pimp My Rom 2.0 for additional tweaks, but from the sounds of it you may not even want that.
Good luck in your search.
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Ivbeen looking at that one too, but the feedback seems to indicate that it might be more buggy. Have you had this experience?
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Ivbeen looking at that one too, but the feedback seems to indicate that it might be more buggy. Have you had this experience?
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You want a solid rom? Team EOS is going to be your best bet. Very minimal isnt loaded with a bunch of crap you wont use. Has its own toggles however are kind of an eyesore IMO. You could just use an app to do the same thing i recommend "Extended Controls" Its a dollar.. but well worth it. LOL reread your OP oops.. :S
Also if you have the pull down.. and swipe in the middle to either the right or the left.. it will swap the Date and clock to a volume slider on the left and a brightness slider on the right .
The only problem I've had with this rom is the oft mentioned error about invalid glazed 2.0 init.. and it's more of a minor nuisance than anything. Functionality does not seem to have a problem, and I'm sure the message has something to do with Glazed being based on a CM nightly.. a bad integer table entry perhaps. Either way, my overall experience has been great with this setup.. buttery fast, and buttery smooth.
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Thanks for getting back to me on that. I've got a list of three I'm investigating. Trying out this CM10 kang first.
I've had very good luck with cm10. I've tried a few others but keep coming back to cyanogenmod. It's stable and has the features I want. On my Tablet I have many of them turned off, but it's nice for my phone. I
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[Q] Any ideas? or suggestion?

Alright so obviously I have the nexus 4. This really isnt a big problem for you guys I just need quick help.
You see I'm getting really bored. Maybe because its a developer phone and I'm obviously not a developer. I keep trying to sell it and since my birthday was today I almost got the galaxy s4.
I just keep thinking if there was something I could. do to this phone to make it as cool as the galaxy s4 I'm just not impressed.
I have rooted
I have over clocked.
Installed custom ROM
I just need Idk features that make the phone cool. Or something that'll keep me busy so I'm not bored.
Thanks
rangerforces83 said:
Alright so obviously I have the nexus 4. This really isnt a big problem for you guys I just need quick help.
You see I'm getting really bored. Maybe because its a developer phone and I'm obviously not a developer. I keep trying to sell it and since my birthday was today I almost got the galaxy s4.
I just keep thinking if there was something I could. do to this phone to make it as cool as the galaxy s4 I'm just not impressed.
I have rooted
I have over clocked.
Installed custom ROM
I just need Idk features that make the phone cool. Or something that'll keep me busy so I'm not bored.
Thanks
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you need a feature phone, go get a sgs4. the nexus 4 isnt cool enough for you.
simms22 said:
you need a feature phone, go get a sgs4. the nexus 4 isnt cool enough for you.
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I love it considering it can do almost anything. Its not really the features its just since I'm a noon I don't know how to experiment on the phone.
I'm not like you who wonders what they do. People have to tell me about it
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rangerforces83 said:
I love it considering it can do almost anything. Its not really the features its just since I'm a noon I don't know how to experiment on the phone.
I'm not like you who wonders what they do. People have to tell me about it
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read around, maybe something will catch your interest. personally, i dont need the extra features. i look for something lean, and optimized, which usually means fast. the simplicity of android makes me happy, i dont need anything else.
simms22 said:
read around, maybe something will catch your interest. personally, i dont need the extra features. i look for something lean, and optimized, which usually means fast. the simplicity of android makes me happy, i dont need anything else.
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What do you have on yours?
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rangerforces83 said:
What do you have on yours?
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rasbean jelly rom with the trinity kernel. but thats what i enjoy
Its basic human nature that they get bored after using the same thing again & again for many days. After a month of usage, I was bored with my S2, then I started trying out new ROMs, I used to change ROMs once every 2 weeks.
I got my Nexus 4, 3days ago.........
Try out different ROMs, try different software tweaks, or different apps from Play Store atleast. Otherwise just find something/someone other than your Nexus 4/10 to remove your boredom......
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Its basic human nature that they get bored after using the same thing again & again for many days. After a month of usage, I was bored with my S2, then I started trying out new ROMs, I used to change ROMs once every 2 weeks.
I got my Nexus 4, 3days ago.........
Try out different ROMs, try different software tweaks, or different apps from Play Store atleast. Otherwise just find something/someone other than your Nexus 4/10 to remove your boredom......
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What are you running on your ROM
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rasbean jelly rom with the trinity kernel. but thats what i enjoy
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okay see because I over clocked and rooted my Nexus 4 and 10. Running pa with stock kernel. I literally took of Faux kernel does now because it was overheating my phone. I still have my Nexus 10 overclock and rooted. With same kernel. I just need something else to do with my phone. When I usually go hiking or trailing I do photosphere's and then add it to Google Plus but other than that there's nothing else to do
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okay see because I over clocked and rooted my Nexus 4 and 10. Running pa with stock kernel. I literally took of Faux kernel does now because it was overheating my phone. I still have my Nexus 10 overclock and rooted. With same kernel. I just need something else to do with my phone. When I usually go hiking or trailing I do photosphere's and then add it to Google Plus but other than that there's nothing else to do
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forget nexus and buy iphone/ samsung
pure android and google support its not for U
rangerforces83 said:
okay see because I over clocked and rooted my Nexus 4 and 10. Running pa with stock kernel. I literally took of Faux kernel does now because it was overheating my phone. I still have my Nexus 10 overclock and rooted. With same kernel. I just need something else to do with my phone. When I usually go hiking or trailing I do photosphere's and then add it to Google Plus but other than that there's nothing else to do
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the most important question, what do you need it to do?
Karo. said:
forget nexus and buy iphone/ samsung
pure android and google support its not for U
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So tell me this genius why am i always attracted to Google device is rather than Samsung or apple or anybody else
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rangerforces83 said:
So tell me this genius why am i always attracted to Google device is rather than Samsung or apple or anybody else
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the pure android experience + fastboot oem unlock :victory:
Get playstation emulator from playstore
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So tell me this genius why am i always attracted to Google device is rather than Samsung or apple or anybody else
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I love my nexus 10. Its just I use my phone more and I need a project for it so I can work on
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I do photosphere's and then add it to Google Plus but other than that there's nothing else to do
What you need is tasker!
That should be a really interesting project for you
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsIm5ldC5kaW5nbGlzY2guYW5kcm9pZC50YXNrZXJtIl0.
You can do anything with this app
What you need is to change the way you interact with your device. Remove the nav bar and use pie (learn to use gestures) , nova launcher (and many roms out there) have the option to remove the notificatiom bar. Use dashclock with the extentions as a homescreen widget. Use halo for notifications. Use icon packs to change the way your UI feels, change the wallpaper more often. If you're on google+ take a look at the communities, people are doing some crazy stuff customizations, try to replicate those themes.
Buying the s4 won't solve your problems.
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rayiskon said:
What you need is to change the way you interact with your device. Remove the nav bar and use pie (learn to use gestures) , nova launcher (and many roms out there) have the option to remove the notificatiom bar. Use dashclock with the extentions as a homescreen widget. Use halo for notifications. Use icon packs to change the way your UI feels, change the wallpaper more often. If you're on google+ take a look at the communities, people are doing some crazy stuff customizations, try to replicate those themes.
Buying the s4 won't solve your problems.
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Yeah the only thing Im not doing from what you said is using halo and pie. I did that with my nexus 10. The reason why I didn't on my nexus 4 is because I put tablet ui and made it transparent and made the app drawer transparent too
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What are you running on your ROM
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I'm still using stock ROM. Missing many features of my S2, so I'll root it after a week, install a good ROM.......

Is stock good enough for you?

Hey N4 users, how many of you are satisfied with stock 4.3?
I used to flash ROMs but I typically just stay on stock 4.3 now. I use a quick settings mod to add more tiles and an extended power menu mod to get reboot options. Other than that stock is all I need.
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babalonius508 said:
I used to flash ROMs but I typically just stay on stock 4.3 now. I use a quick settings mod to add more tiles and an extended power menu mod to get reboot options. Other than that stock is all I need.
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:good:
Flashed many roms ,tried about 6-7 roms and I realized that stock is good enough for me. I'm using battery % mod + advanced reboot ,it's enough.
I really enjoy with 4.3 stock rom.
Never was.
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Honestly, not a fan of the Nav bars, so no Stock for me. I feel that they take up more space than they should. I ♥ extra screen space.
AndroidKills said:
Honestly, not a fan of the Nav bars, so no Stock for me. I feel that they take up more space than they should. I ♥ extra screen space.
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I use an app called fullscreen, and stock rom is fine after a few personalisation tweaks (playing with MUIU theme icons currently). Oh yeah..Pie Control App, Power Toggles, etc...apps really can extend usefulness like roms do, just have to hunt for them.
I need the long press navbar action, and better toggles.
Instead of flashing different mod a custom Rom is much easier.
Not for me. I like the extras, changes under the hood, ect the custom ROMs bring.
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Yes. I've run stock on my phones since the Galaxy Nexus was released. I don't have the desire to do the custom ROM song and dance when stock does everything I want it to do.
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I'm very satisfied with stock! The only issue is I wish with the default launcher you could change the pages, that's my only complaint... I wish I didn't have to use apex on top of default...
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Generally speaking I would say yes, stock is great, but there are aspects to using something like Paranoid Android (lubz me some PIE) as well as CyanogenMod (volume rockers to change songs is something I simply cannot live without these days), so generally I will use a device for a period of time when it's new to my ownership stock, then do the research and find a custom ROM to try out, then another if needed, then tweaks (custom kernels, undervolting, etc).
Same old same old as everyone else for the most part I suppose.
i had mine for 9 months before i decided to try a custom ROM...
The nexus 4 is the only android phone I've owned and kept as stock which is kind of ironic.
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The nexus 4 is the only android phone I've owned and kept as stock which is kind of ironic.
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I completely agree. My previous phone was a SGS2 and I flashed a new ROM the day I got mine. My N4 however I have decided to keep stock since 4.3 was released and so far I have been pleased.
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Custom ROMs are significantly and noticeably faster and more responsive. Besides on stock lte is broken...
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after i unwrapped it, my phone was stock long enough to download a custom rom. kinda like when you first installed windows and you use IE long enough to download chrome or firefox. same idea
I'm on stock right now
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On stock ROM now and while I do miss the volume rocker buttons and expanded lockscreen on custom roms, I am also happy without it.
I've been waiting for CM 10.2 Stable...so I guess that answers that.
Stock... No need for custom Roms anymore. Hell even the stock kernel is good now.
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