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Nexus S and Galaxy S camera modules comparison

Here is Nexus S camera module from Ifixit.com
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And here is Galaxy's S camera module from media it:
You can see that they are little bit different... So Is that mean, that Nexus S cannot record 720p in connection with hardware problems...
Thanks!

That is a humongous difference. That's probably what allows the Galaxy S the shoot 720p. Still kinda bummed over this.

Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
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Pako7 said:
Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
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Bummer.
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It appears that the NEC-10170 found in the SGS allows for 720P video capture, obsviously missing from the Nexus S.

The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.

JCopernicus said:
The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.
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My speculation. I'd assume the NEC MC-10170 does some of the processing as to make 720P recording attainable/reasonable on the SGS. There was no room on the PCB to include it in the Nexus S. I can't really find a whitepaper on the NEC MC-10170 however.
I'm interested to see how this plays out.

Sorry to recall this old thread but even that both are different, is it possible to at least get a not laggy video recording driver???, can the settings be modified in any way or can the driver be obtained from another android phone that runs the same part?, I mean there is a driver modified for the fruity phone 3G and 3GS that enables the phone to record at 720p, is it possible to get a solution like that for the Nexus or are we condemned to crappy camera vid record???

LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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Rem3Dy said:
LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.

fenrry said:
The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.
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What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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I had a galaxy s before my nexus and successfully transplanted the guts of one into the shell of another that had a dead sd card. The extra piece you see attached to the galaxy s camera is a chip that connects to the board of the galaxy, the camera has a separate chip for processing. A chip that processes 720p recording. The nexus s uses the phones hardware to process its camera. Either way, it comes down to software, not the processor. Pretty simple issue of drivers needed to process the camera image (theyre both the same camera) into 720p.
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Its not pretty simple. It can't be done in real time without the hardwade encoder. The phone simply doesn't have a fadt enough processor to software encode HD.
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sagech said:
What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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There is a very annoying and common lag, a glitch that happens once in a while, pls see the following examples:
a) at 0:09 >>>Here
b) at 0:41 >>>Here
c) at the first 20 secs >>>Here
d) at 0:15 >>>Here
e) this is mine, check at 0:10, a full second >>>Here
Not only that it happens but is random and is rather extremely annoying, I shot the other day a full 2 mins vid and it came nice but the next day I was recording for like 20 secs and it was there......btw, in the Nexus S running stock is very common and happens a lot, with the Roms is not as common but it does still happen...
If not half HD (720), at least make it so it can record smoothly, I got better vids from the fruity phone 3GS, the 9000, or my old and trusty W300i.

Nexus S can have 720p recording

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In this version ( Vodafone AUS ) we can see it have S-LCD screen , and i think the new OTA FW have 720p update ( i hope so )

Man I hope so!!!
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I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?

willentrekin said:
I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
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Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.

thommcg said:
Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
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Assuming that ad copy is accurate.
And also assuming that this Euro version is the same hardware as the US version (which it clearly isn't since it's SLCD and not SAMOLED - who knows what other internal changes it might have).
We've been led to believe in the past that the lack of 720p video recording was a hardware bandwidth limitation...no software will change that if it's true. We could do 720p if/when some gets around to hacking in a method, but it will be at reduced framerates. I suspect a lower resolution at higher framerates will usually be a more pleasant viewing experience.

The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.

That would be the most bull**** thing Samsung haf done yet.
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The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
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Is it possible to upscale to 720i instead? Similar to tv's?
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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, keep in mind that the original launch page for the Nexus S (http://www.google.com/nexus) said it would be able to take "HD videos" on the Features page while stating only 720x480 on the Specs page. As we all know, 720x480 is "Enhanced Definition" at best, not HD.
So this could be a similar situation. Or, it might have a different camera module that has the on-board video processing chip.
Personally, I think the 720x480 video the original NS takes are actually pretty decent, and I'd much prefer the battery life improvements of an AMOLED screen over SuperLCD.

I also think the video is quite good already, but higher res wouldn't hurt. But the still camera needs some work, my NS is not nearly as good a my old vibrant.
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this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
NS camera
Galaxy S camera

demo23019 said:
this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
NS camera
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11013723&postcount=158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11046683&postcount=168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051605&postcount=170

When does the SLCD version hit shelves? If its a codec issue, why doesn't Google come out and say that

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these make sense, i never thought of it that way, i always knew that the GS phones had more codecs than the NS because of touchwiz and such but i never related those codecs and HD recording :O

The problem is, if its a codec issue then how do you get it onto the sns if its a matter of Google not paying for it? I don't see how anyone can fix that. How do you even get codecs on this phone? Sounds like there's no legal way to do it right?
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miss read ..removed

Are you still convinced that it's an hardware problem?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Read under encoding, and you realize by yourselves that H.264 encoding it's not supported on android 2.3.3 and before. First version of android with H.264 encoding is Honeycomb (3.0).
So it's definitely a codec thing.

Considering one of the lead Android devs said on his twitter that 720p recording is not available on the Nexus S due to hardware bandwidth limitation, I tend to believe him. I am not sure why we have ANOTHER 720p thread either. There is already a longggg one open that talks about all of this. The ad is incorrect. The SLCD version is the SAME as the AMOLED version, minus the screen.

I think it takes great pics and decent video but you kind of expect HD coming from a phone like this... NFC could have waited for the next google phone IMO.

Doesn't 2.3.3 support WebM, which is a hidef codec?

Samsung Galaxy S2 HD is a super-powered S2

Okay, this is hot!
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s2-hd-is-a-super-powered-s2-50005350/
Samsung Galaxy S2 HD is a super-powered S2
By Luke Westaway on 26 September 2011, 5:11pm
Samsung will soon launch a new version of its brilliant Galaxy S2 Android phone. The Samsung Galaxy S2 HD will pack a 4.7-inch display and a 1.5GHz processor.
The bad news? At the moment, this souped-up smart phone is only coming to Samsung's native land of South Korea.
The S2 HD was announced alongside another new version of the S2 that has a 1.5GHz processor and 4.5-inch screen, with both phones packing LTE tech that makes them 4G-compatible.
We don't get 4G in the UK, just rubbish old 3G, so these particular versions won't be coming to our green and pleasant land. Normally, we don't report on phones that won't come to the UK, but we're making an exception in this case, because we reckon Samsung could well bring a 3G version of the S2 HD over here in the future.
We certainly wouldn't complain, because this monolithic mobile has a display with a resolution of 1,280x720 pixels, which makes it a high-definition mobile. That beats the iPhone 4's 960x640-pixel screen. With an 'HD Super AMOLED' display, we suspect the S2 HD will look blindingly good.
The S2 HD is 9.5mm thick, which is about a millimetre thicker than the Galaxy S2. It also packs a 1,850mAh battery, which is bigger than the S2's 1,650mAh offering.
In short then, the Galaxy S2 HD is like the Galaxy S2 but bigger and faster. We're not sure we can handle mobile telephony that potent this early in the week, but, Samsung, if you're reading, we desperately want to see this mobile hitting the UK.
The existing S2 is proving a fair old success meanwhile, having recently passed the 10 million sales milestone.
Do you want to see the Galaxy S2 HD breaking free and heading to the UK? Then say as much in the comments section below, or on our Facebook wall, and maybe Samsung will take notice.
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As much as I like the specs of the souped up SG2 with 1.5ghz with HD display, the 4.7 inch screen is just too big for my tastes. Not sure about other people but the MAXIMUM I would take for a PHONE would probably be 4.5 inches.

Be nice to have it over here as well due to the HD screen but if i can be honest i rather wait for the S3 when that comes out...My phone is powerful enough as it is and if i want to push the cpu i can...So for someone who has not got the S2 this is good upgrade but for me i wait for the next big thing to be honest...

If only they could squeeze this resolution on a 4 - 4.3 inch display....
Apple did it, im sure samsung can do that aswell.
bye portability

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HD 1280x720 resolution instead of normal 800x480
and features LGU+ along with standard LTE
LGU+ is a proprietary LTE by LG only in Korea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_U+
chances are we'll never see this model in North America
Screen size sames as T-mobile/Sprint version 4.65" same CPU 1.5 Ghz probably Qualcomm instead of Exynos

I'm guessing the screen's pentile.

Tri3Dent said:
As much as I like the specs of the souped up SG2 with 1.5ghz with HD display, the 4.7 inch screen is just too big for my tastes. Not sure about other people but the MAXIMUM I would take for a PHONE would probably be 4.5 inches.
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Im with you..
4.7 inches is getting too big IMO.. id much prefer 4-4.5 inches max.
I think Im just going to wait for the Galaxy S III.

how about fixing the audio issues.. i hate having to take out my i9000 to record at concerts because the audio on the s2 (without voodoo) is unuseable

Yeah if it wasn't 4.7", it'd seem more luscious. For reals though, I love the baby too much to let go, even if I hear/read/see the sgs 3/nexus prime. (won't really know till it happens though. )

lgkahn said:
how about fixing the audio issues.. i hate having to take out my i9000 to record at concerts because the audio on the s2 (without voodoo) is unuseable
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Exactly. Also the screen seems to have gained more in height than width so it may not be as unweildy as the size suggests
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I just want the screen resolution in the same form factor as the S2. =\

Sticks02 said:
I just want the screen resolution in the same form factor as the S2. =\
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10 Character...

lgkahn said:
how about fixing the audio issues.. i hate having to take out my i9000 to record at concerts because the audio on the s2 (without voodoo) is unuseable
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What sound issue my sound is great
....
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I wonder if they've sorted out the screen issues with the SAMOLED+

Lol- the manager at the store says that Yamaha chipset is better than Wolfson. I'm confused.
Too bad this HD version won't be sold around the world any time soon.

lgkahn said:
how about fixing the audio issues.. i hate having to take out my i9000 to record at concerts because the audio on the s2 (without voodoo) is unuseable
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Record a concert with your phone? Yes, that was the primary goal of Samsung. Hey, there are ****loads of people who go to concerts not to enjoy the music, but to create low quality blurry pictures and videos waving their phones in the air. Damn you Samsung, you've failed.
Anyways, 4.7 is WAY to big for a phone. I'm not sure it can be called a phone anymore. I'd prefer 4" sharp personally. 4.3" is a bit too big for me.

TheSaw said:
Record a concert with your phone? Yes, that was the primary goal of Samsung. Hey, there are ****loads of people who go to concerts not to enjoy the music, but to create low quality blurry pictures and videos waving their phones in the air. Damn you Samsung, you've failed.
Anyways, 4.7 is WAY to big for a phone. I'm not sure it can be called a phone anymore. I'd prefer 4" sharp personally. 4.3" is a bit too big for me.
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Guess we will have to buy pants with bigger pockets ...

though now I do wonder why they decide to replace exynos with qualcomm 8060, since according to this webpage, the gpu in both LTE and LTE HD is adreno 220...
http://www.chinaz.com/mobile/2011/0927/211853_24.shtml

Samsung Galaxy SIII vs S4 (or any other phone) comparison

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fine, nice idea mods
by the way i read some where that most of the existing powervr 5 series gpus have the hardware for opengl es 3.0 support , its just a matter of time before they get it via a driver update.
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here is the link from anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6644/imagination-demonstrates-powervr-series-6-rogue-on-lgs-h13-soc

bala_gamer said:
fine, nice idea mods
by the way i read some where that most of the existing powervr 5 series gpus have the hardware for opengl es 3.0 support , its just a matter of time before they get it via a driver update.
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The second part is some news about a subset of OpenGL ES 3.0 features that will be enabled retroactively on all PowerVR Series5XT hardware. The entire lineup apparently has the hardware to enable these OpenGL ES 3.0 features as an optional extension inside OpenGL ES 2.0.
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great

All of em with 2gb ram will be tons better. No comparison. Back to true multitasking and no iPhone clone crap reloading all apps.

I still can't believe that all flagship phones will be running FHD in 2013. I wonder how much battery can be saved using a HD display instead of a FHD display, rest all factors being equal?
I have a feeling that the benefits of going to FHD are merely from marketing perspective at this time. More resources used for GPU and display. "Diminishing marginal utility" applies here?
I just didn't expect it so soon. As long as battery life remains great, give me a 4K screen. I will never complain.

Came out today.
http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...k-lte-exynos-5-octa-powervr-sgx-544mp-164258/

nfsmw_gr said:
Came out today.
http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...k-lte-exynos-5-octa-powervr-sgx-544mp-164258/
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That doesn't to be very impresive. I hope its fake lol

djluis48 said:
That doesn't to be very impresive. I hope its fake lol
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Not very impressive?Compared against what?Alienware laptops?My S3 is overclocked to 1.7GHz on the CPU side and 600MHz on the GPU side and still gets "only" up to around 18500 in Antutu.Even the Snapdragon 600 hovers around the 22500 mark.What did you expect?I'd like it better too,but hold on
Anyway,using a PowerVR GPU gets me excited.No more half-arsed ported games and hopefully better performance than the Mali ones.The MP-400 was lovely on the S2 but it's too 2011 and ARM's T-6xx series has yet to prove it's worth something,while PowerVRs are tried and true(Although I have to admit I'll miss the MP-400's monstrous fill rate and I'll hate depending too much on resolution again).I only hope that the Exynos Octa indeed performs considerably better than the Snapdragon 600.Not because the 600 isn't good,but if they are so close in performance,the S800 will obliterate everything and even the Tegra 4 will best the Exynos.I can stand having a less powerful SoC than Qualcomm's(After all the S4 pro blew the Exynos 4412 last year) but not NVidia.I just hate these guys and they deserved being at the bottom of the performance charts.
Anyway,sure thing is that by summer 2013 the S3 will look mid-end and the S2 will look like a toy.I can't wait to get the S4 and get it to run at 2GHz.Yes,I'm crazy.

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That doesn't to be very impresive. I hope its fake lol
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I wonder how Samsung or any other OEM can make something inpressive at all. I had a Xperia Z for the weekend and my S3 doen't feel at all too old.
FHD is nice because it is the industry standard (PC Monitors, TVs ,..) but from my normal reading distance I don't see a difference worth spending money for.
Current high end 3D games run on both phones fine, but they do so on a S2 also....
If Samsung would have put 2GB into the I9300, I guess I skipped the upgrade this year.

Looks like SGS4 won't have premium materials, but plastic again:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/04/eldar-murtazin-galaxy-s-iv-is-built-from-plastic/
HTC One: aluminium
Xperia Z: glass
Nexus 4: glass
iPhone 5: aluminium
So SGS4 will be the only flagship made with plastic?

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Looks like SGS4 won't have premium materials, but plastic again:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/04/eldar-murtazin-galaxy-s-iv-is-built-from-plastic/
HTC One: aluminium
Xperia Z: glass
Nexus 4: glass
iPhone 5: aluminium
So SGS4 will be the only flagship made with plastic?
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Dont know if its true.. but that no5 surprising... I dont mind plastic at all..its light, makes it removable, and dissipates heat better.. no fuss about loosing paint like in alluminium and smudges like in glass ( the nexus n4 s4 chip is said to tgrottle at stock to save the glass).. performance and funtion above looks always..
I only wish they bring out a better design and look or I might get something else..
Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!

First samsung teaser for S4 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dIEfNaNCkKM
Look at 0:13 to 0:18 ^^

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First samsung teaser for S4 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dIEfNaNCkKM
Look at 0:13 to 0:18 ^^
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no its note2
edit : HMM it seems not , i'm not sure but looks smaller than GN2
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Galaxy S IV will utilize eye-tracking technology that enables users to scroll through webpages without touching the screen
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The phone will track a user’s eyes to determine where to scroll, said a Samsung employee
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Source: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/samsungs-new-smartphone-will-track-eyes-to-scroll-pages/

So does the Enoxsys Octo core cream the Snapdragon 600 found in the HTC One?
And is the S4 being announced and released on the same day?

Galaxy S IV will utilize eye-tracking technology that enables users to scroll through webpages without touching the screen
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So, Samsung Galaxy S4 will be an EYE-PHONE??? :laugh:
eye-phone... iphone... no? nothing? Oh well, I tried.

Kremata said:
So, Samsung Galaxy S4 will be an EYE-PHONE??? :laugh:
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Yep.. They have already trade-marked "Eye Scroll" and "Eye Pause".
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4010:yima0r.2.1
Computer application software having a feature of sensing eye movements and scrolling displays of mobile devices, namely, mobile phones, smart phones and tablet computers according to eye movements; digital cameras; mobile telephones; smart phones; tablet computers
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Eye Pause shows no specific description.

-A-P-M- said:
Looks like SGS4 won't have premium materials, but plastic again
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What's the problem with polymer casing? I think it's a good marketing decision.
First of all, I'm not planing to keep the phone for 20 years.
Second, it makes the phone lighter.
Third, makes the phone cheaper.
Fourth, I prefer to pay for better techology then fancy casing.
Fifth, they all need case protector anyway.

hot_spare said:
Yep.. They have already trade-marked "Eye Scroll" and "Eye Pause".
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4010:yima0r.2.1
Eye Pause shows no specific description.
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Actually I believe the first phone wich got those features is the S3 on the leaked 4.2.1 rom. The only thing is even if they are activated, they don't work. I believe they need fixing and the rom was a test one or something. So yeah, it's not gonna be something S4 exclusive, we are going to recieve those too . Till now, all Galaxy S series demonstrated that they are BEASTS and very difficult to let behind, they all get features official or non-official.
Look back at the support the S1 recieves and you'll be amazed

Samsung live event now!

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LIVE, right Now... presentation of S 4
http://www.samsung.com/th/samsungunpacked/
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For those that missed the live show, here is the RECORDING:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaw6CSaPnfk
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Disappointment is all I have to say....
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True bro, sooo true
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Possible to get some of these functions ported over to Note 2?

The camera and camera software looks like the biggest enhancement, no mention of cpu or gpu tho.
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madpete said:
The camera and camera software looks like the biggest enhancement, no mention of cpu or gpu tho.
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It's either a 1.9Ghz snapdragon 600 or a 1.6 Ghz exynos 5 octa depending on the region ( it is confirmed). The Galaxy S IV is definitely not worth "upgrading" if you're coming from a note 2. But if you're like me phoneless then it is a great choice!

The S4 is a 'nice' upgrade from the S3, mostly on the software side. Hardware is a modest upgrade. But I would not consider upgrading from my N2 to a S4. N3...we shall see...

Think the LCD touch got great improvement with air touch and even with gloves.Nice for winter

Are any of those features come ti note 2? Camera is better but cpu update is pointless for me now. I really don't game that much and note 2 feels super smooth. Half of those apps could and should come to note 2. Any infos?
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What I like:
- Their presentation (Finally something different, not just a guy standing on the stage blabbing about new features. Also stream was good quality and stable)
- New CPU (Although difference would really be only in games - S3/N2 is already incredible smooth. Also I'm not sure about battery usage of the chip. Must be incredibly high with all cores online)
- Air touch (mostly for interacting with mouseover elements on web pages like drop down menus, don't care much about gestures. Still I can pull out S pen on N2 if I find that page, which are thankfully rare nowadays)
- Glove thingy (does it work with thick ski gloves or just thin ones?)
- Smart pause (although it most likely does not work with 3rd party players which makes it useless for me. Maybe xda will step in? (somehow link it to simulating physical pause button))
- Temperature sensor (barometer on N2 is not really useful, at least there are no useful apps for it except for just displaying sensor data. But temperature could be somewhat useful)
What I don't care about:
- Most of the software improvements (mostly gimmicks - things nice to have and show around, but not really that useful.).
What I don't like:
- Pentile screen
So unless you have spare 600 dollars laying around, I don't think its really worth upgrading from either S3 or N2. We have reached point (or we are very near reaching it) where interface on phones is completely smooth and lags are mostly caused by badly written apps or apps waiting for resources (NAND, Internet etc.), so speeding up CPU will not do much, except for games. And things that could make use of that power (voice recognition etc.) are being moved to the cloud.

legion1911 said:
LIVE, right Now... presentation of S 4
http://www.samsung.com/th/samsungunpacked/
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For those that missed the live show, here is the RECORDING:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaw6CSaPnfk
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5622/99973566.jpg
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9228/specss.jpg

matejdro said:
What I don't like:
- Pentile screen
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Pentile again??? pfffff.......... can't wait to se a macro shot of the secreen next to a 5" 1080 non-pentile from the "competitors" . I'm really curious to see if it would suffer from the lower percieved resulution "issue" on such high PPI count. Personnaly i don't find either the s3 or the non pentile N2 to have a sharp screen... hopefully the N3 will come out full hd with RGB.
P.S not a fan of the octa... those 4 low powered cores running the UI might and most surely will cause small stutters, i've already seen some hick-ups on a "hands on" video from the conference, but those phones weren't running the final release software soo... fingers crossed..looks like the days IOS is crushed in smoothness are still to come.....