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So as far as my research goes there are 2 options for the GS3 on t-mobile.
One is buy the international version and wait for t-mobile to upgrade their network which they say will be out by the "end of the year."
The second is pick up a gs3 from WIND Mobile, Mobilicity or Videotron (Canadian carriers that use the same frequencies as T-Mobile).
Is the second option even viable or should I just get the international version? To put things in perspective of why I want to upgrade now, my g2x was stolen a few months ago and I've been suffering with my 8900 Blackberry....a phone with 2G speeds and the processing power of a rock and I just cannot take this any more.
One question is the chip the North American version will get, which is probably the S4 Krait, it has very good performance and probably more battery efficient. Sound quality should be excellent like the HTC One S. Not to mention LTE support too, which T-Mobile is unveiling next year.
With that said, I always go for the international version, its released first for one and generally has more developers. I buy my phones at full price and int' version generally has better resale values. I don't think you have a lot of choice if you are in contract.
I can tolerate the 2G until 1900mhz band works with T-Mobile, I only need data for Google Maps, I get on WiFi otherwise.
Funny. I broke my N1 and am stuck with a BB curve 3600. It's been a month or so now....and I believe I've been punished long enough!
I wouldn't be able to tolerate the 2G speeds. So I will be getting it through mobile when they release release it. Having carrier warranty is a big plus for me too.
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well I'm sure there will be canadians that would be willing to sell their phones out of contract, full price. I wouldn't be locked into a contract either way.
i wouldn't mind helping out our fellow breathens from the south
i know i'll be picking it up for sure when it becomes available in store.
just keep in mind there's a 13% tax here + FedEx shipping fees which varies for northern states is aprox $20, southern states is about $26
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i wouldn't mind helping out our fellow breathens from the south
i know i'll be picking it up for sure when it becomes available in store.
just keep in mind there's a 13% tax here + FedEx shipping fees which varies for northern states is aprox $20, southern states is about $26
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whats 40 bucks when you have the top phone working on your network ahead of everyone else right?
i would think it would be the international version that WIND Mobile, Mobilicity or Videotron would be getting, sense they dont have LTE.
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i would think it would be the international version that WIND Mobile, Mobilicity or Videotron would be getting, sense they dont have LTE.
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did you check the radio bands included in the international model?
yes, they dont work with t-mo till the end of end of the year. no one wants 2G service.
International/Unlocked S3 on T-Mobile or AT&T (USA)
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yes, they dont work with t-mo till the end of end of the year. no one wants 2G service.
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Why won't they work?
I read the International Version can run on either T-Mobile (USA) or AT&T network, since the International Version of the S3 uses the same spectrum. It won't be possible to use LTE, but HSPA+ is possible... so I read.
Don't know if you specifically meant the Canadian version, because the International SG3 uses "850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 mhz", for use with "3g (hspa＋ 21mbps)" (= T-Mobile).
Can you provide a few more details on why it's not supposed to work, as you say ??
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Why won't they work?
I read the International Version can run on either T-Mobile (USA) or AT&T network, since the International Version of the S3 uses the same spectrum. It won't be possible to use LTE, but HSPA+ is possible... so I read.
Don't know if you specifically meant the Canadian version, because the International SG3 uses "850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 mhz", for use with "3g (hspa＋ 21mbps)" (= T-Mobile).
Can you provide a few more details on why it's not supposed to work, as you say ??
Thanks!
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Cause it doesn't list 1700mhz, which tmobile needs for the down link.
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The 1700 mhz band is not necessarily needed. I just checked some other sources, and they say it's only needed for LTE - which T-Mobile won't have until some time in 2013 anyway. HSPA+ is good enough for speedy downloads on the 1900 mhz band.
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Just found this one on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA
[T-Mobile] Radio frequency spectrum chart
The following chart describes radio frequency spectrum bands accessible by the company's customers using compatible devices.
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1700+2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 4G (formerly 3G)
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 4G
This means, the International SG3 will be fine in the U.S. using T-Mobile's speedy HSPA+ network... and that's all I need.
..???..
Well... this is confusing: T-Mobile's website (for SIM-only plans) actually states..
Important note about 3G phones:
If you own a 3G phone but it does not support the 1700-MHz band, it will operate at 2G (EDGE) speeds on our network.
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Looks like you guys were right... This sucks!!!
you need 1700 Mhz for AWS 3G/4G support
LTE is not even in the picture
I believe t mobile has had a SGSIII go through the FCC in the last week. I believe they will be getting their own model.
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planoman said:
I believe t mobile has had a SGSIII go through the FCC in the last week. I believe they will be getting their own model.
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I believe that is correct, by the end of next month tmo should be selling it. I have a feeling that it's going to be the same as the international version.
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Has anyone read this article about the relase date. My contract is up this week but im waiting untill its released. Seems like the speeds will be 4g but no quad-core processor
Plus I heard the Samsung Galaxy Note is going to be released on TMo too!!
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s3-note-in-t-mobile-document/
moshe22 said:
I wouldn't be able to tolerate the 2G speeds. So I will be getting it through mobile when they release release it. Having carrier warranty is a big plus for me too.
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Exactly true for me. On verizon tho.
I can deal with edge speeds as WiFi is everywhere, plus T-Mo is refarming their spectrum - the Int'l Version should be compatible with 4G by Q4
can an unlocked at&t or sprint sgs3 work on tmobile's 4G network?
Sprint is cdma .... t-mobile and att are gsm
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Sprint no, t mobile edge speeds. No good news as to whether more would be possible on t mobile.
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not until t-mobile has completed refarming its 1900 frequency to HSPA+ ...at least for the international and AT&T models. im not sure about the Sprint version.
I heard that the Sprint variant of the S3 has a sim slot since its an international phone. All you have to do is root and unlock it and it should work on T-Mobile 4G.
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Sprint is cdma .... t-mobile and att are gsm
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that didnt answer my question.
prankoy said:
not until t-mobile has completed refarming its 1900 frequency to HSPA+ ...at least for the international and AT&T models.
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so currently, you cant get the int'l or at&t phone to work on tmo's 4G until tmo upgrades to HSPA+.. do you know when that will happen?
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that didnt answer my question.
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It does, actually… perhaps a bit too technical.
so currently, you cant get the int'l or at&t phone to work on tmo's 4G until tmo upgrades to HSPA+.. do you know when that will happen?
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That's not an accurate statement but it makes the point—non-T-Mobile GS3s won't work on T-Mobile's 3G/4G until they redeploy from 1700 to 1900 MHz.
T-Mobile hasn't put out a time table. AFAIK parts of downtown San Francisco (around the Moscone Center), parts of San Diego, and parts of Birmingham, Alabama (i.e. relatively nowhere) are the only places TMO has this configuration deployed.
That's not exactly true parts of Bellevue and Seattle Washington have been reformed too so I'm sure there's more areas
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I heard that the Sprint variant of the S3 has a sim slot since its an international phone. All you have to do is root and unlock it and it should work on T-Mobile 4G.
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nope, there's only an sd card slot in the sprint variant, the sim card is embedded
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that didnt answer question
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It did actually, AT&T and T-Mobile are gsm, while Verizon and sprint are cdma... completely different services. Your only choice is an AT&T, T-Mobile or a gsm international.
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tamasrepus said:
It does, actually… perhaps a bit too technical.
That's not an accurate statement but it makes the point—non-T-Mobile GS3s won't work on T-Mobile's 3G/4G until they redeploy from 1700 to 1900 MHz.
T-Mobile hasn't put out a time table. AFAIK parts of downtown San Francisco (around the Moscone Center), parts of San Diego, and parts of Birmingham, Alabama (i.e. relatively nowhere) are the only places TMO has this configuration deployed.
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he didnt answer my question. anyway, do you know when tmo will deploy this upgrade to nyc?
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It did actually, AT&T and T-Mobile are gsm, while Verizon and sprint are cdma... completely different services. Your only choice is an AT&T, T-Mobile or a gsm international.
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it did not.. i got a gsm phone from at&t thats unlocked to work on tmo. but i cant get it to work on tmo 4G.. thats why he didnt answer my question.
Look up t mobile 1900 mhz refarming. Thats ur best shot. Other than that right now signs are pointing to no hardware support for t mobiles currnt hspa bands. Basically, cross your fingers that tmobile changes to your frequency in your area with this phone. Tmobiles doin cuz they want to steal awayviphine users so they do have incentive. We'll be on that train too tho.
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he didnt answer my question. anyway, do you know when tmo will deploy this upgrade to nyc?
it did not.. i got a gsm phone from at&t thats unlocked to work on tmo. but i cant get it to work on tmo 4G.. thats why he didnt answer my question.
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Yes, t-mobile uses the same tech, but is gimped as far as the 1900mhz band goes. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a definitive adviser as to when they will overhaul their services.
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Look up t mobile 1900 mhz refarming. Thats ur best shot. Other than that right now signs are pointing to no hardware support for t mobiles currnt hspa bands. Basically, cross your fingers that tmobile changes to your frequency in your area with this phone. Tmobiles doin cuz they want to steal awayviphine users so they do have incentive. We'll be on that train too tho.
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i see.. so, tmo right now supports 1900 for their 4G. and the samsung galaxy s3 uses 1900, right?
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Yes, t-mobile uses the same tech, but is gimped as far as the 1900mhz band goes. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a definitive adviser as to when they will overhaul their services.
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i'm a bit confused here.. maybe you, r3a1ist or someone can help. i called tmo and they said that the samsung galaxy s3 works on their 1700 - 2100 while at&t has 850 - 1900.
i'm really confused because on the tmo website, the specs for the SGS3 says that it works on the following bands:
tmo:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band V (850)
i got 4 questions:
1) what frequencies does the tmo version work on.
2) what are the frequencies that at&t uses for its SGS3.
3) what frequency does tmo use for its 4G (internet) network.
4) when LTE comes out next yr on tmo, will samsung release a new line of SGS3 specifically for tmo to work on its LTE?
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he didnt answer my question. anyway, do you know when tmo will deploy this upgrade to nyc?
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Never, probably… I don't have a source (you can Google it) but T-Mobile does not have enough spectrum in NYC to do much shuffling.
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i see.. so, tmo right now supports 1900 for their 4G. and the samsung galaxy s3 uses 1900, right?
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You're not reading the thread, and/or are not understanding technical details. Answering your original question:
can an unlocked at&t or sprint sgs3 work on tmobile's 4G network?
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No, it won't.
The Sprint model apparently does not work. The AT&T may work later this year depending on your area. Are you asking whether you want to make a $500+ bet that it will? That's up to you—I wouldn't.
i'm a bit confused here.. maybe you, r3a1ist or someone can help. i called tmo and they said that the samsung galaxy s3 works on their 1700 - 2100 while at&t has 850 - 1900.
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I rarely get straight or correct answers from TMO's support, but yes—that's correct. What are you confused about?
i'm really confused because on the tmo website, the specs for the SGS3 says that it works on the following bands:
tmo:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band V (850)
i got 4 questions:
1) what frequencies does the tmo version work on.
2) what are the frequencies that at&t uses for its SGS3.
3) what frequency does tmo use for its 4G (internet) network.
4) when LTE comes out next yr on tmo, will samsung release a new line of SGS3 specifically for tmo to work on its LTE?
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1) It works on the frequencies you posted. Let's rewrite that:
GSM/EDGE (aka 2G): 850, 900, 1800, 1900 Mhz
UMTS/HSPA+ (aka 3G/4G): 850, 1700 (aka AWS), 1900 MHz
Is it less confusing now?
2) AT&T uses 850 Mhz and 1900 MHz for their HSPA+ service.
3) TMO as of July 2012 uses 1700 MHz for most their HSPA+ service. T-Mobile will support HSPA+ on 1900 MHz in some parts of the USA by the end of the year. Very few areas (T-Mobile has only officially disclosed a tower near the Moscone Center, in San Francisco) do so now. Concrete details are sparse and nonspecific.
4) Next year is a long time—the SGS3 will be old by then, and the Galaxy Note 2 or SGS4 will have been announced. Nobody can predict the future. But, looking at the past, TMO released a new "4G" version of the Vibrant, so it's also likely they release new "LTE" versions of their phones.
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1) It works on the frequencies you posted. Let's rewrite that:
GSM/EDGE (aka 2G): 850, 900, 1800, 1900 Mhz
UMTS/HSPA+ (aka 3G/4G): 850, 1700 (aka AWS), 1900 MHz
Is it less confusing now?
2) AT&T uses 850 Mhz and 1900 MHz for their HSPA+ service.
3) TMO as of July 2012 uses 1700 MHz for most their HSPA+ service. T-Mobile will support HSPA+ on 1900 MHz in some parts of the USA by the end of the year. Very few areas (T-Mobile has only officially disclosed a tower near the Moscone Center, in San Francisco) do so now. Concrete details are sparse and nonspecific.
4) Next year is a long time—the SGS3 will be old by then, and the Galaxy Note 2 or SGS4 will have been announced. Nobody can predict the future. But, looking at the past, TMO released a new "4G" version of the Vibrant, so it's also likely they release new "LTE" versions of their phones.
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its much less confusing now. thank you so much. its looks like the tmo tech guy i called was ignorant and didnt know what he was talking about. again, thanks.
one last question.. do you think that if i got the tmo version of the SGS3 and when LTE is released that the phone will no longer use HSPA? when LTE comes out, will the phone no longer use fast internet?
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one last question.. do you think that if i got the tmo version of the SGS3 and when LTE is released that the phone will no longer use HSPA? when LTE comes out, will the phone no longer use fast internet?
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Yeah… that's a complicated question whose answer I don't yet understand myself.
TMO is doing their 1900 MHz refarming to free up 1700 MHz for use w/ LTE. Stuff I'm wondering:
What happens to older 3G/4G devices that don't support 1900 MHz? Do they lose their 3G/4G Internet? Note: the GS3 supports 1900 MHz, and does not have this problem.
How is TMO going to deploy in spectrum crunched areas (like NYC)? They don't have enough spectrum to move everyone over to 1900 MHz—does this mean 1700 MHz HSPA+ will be cut off when they bring 1700 MHz LTE online? Your non-LTE GS3 might lose 3G/4G Internet in this situation—but I doubt TMO would do this to anyone with a phone still in contract.
All in all, make your purchasing situation on the situation today. The next new thing is always around the corner.
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Yeah… that's a complicated question whose answer I don't yet understand myself.
TMO is doing their 1900 MHz refarming to free up 1700 MHz for use w/ LTE. Stuff I'm wondering:
What happens to older 3G/4G devices that don't support 1900 MHz? Do they lose their 3G/4G Internet? Note: the GS3 supports 1900 MHz, and does not have this problem.
How is TMO going to deploy in spectrum crunched areas (like NYC)? They don't have enough spectrum to move everyone over to 1900 MHz—does this mean 1700 MHz HSPA+ will be cut off when they bring 1700 MHz LTE online? Your non-LTE GS3 might lose 3G/4G Internet in this situation—but I doubt TMO would do this to anyone with a phone still in contract.
All in all, make your purchasing situation on the situation today. The next new thing is always around the corner.
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hi tamasrepus... just to let you know, when i called the tmo rep like i told you in my previous post, he said that the SGS3 will use LTE.. but after your answers discredited him, i dont believe him. i guess we got to wait and see.
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It did actually, AT&T and T-Mobile are gsm, while Verizon and sprint are cdma... completely different services. Your only choice is an AT&T, T-Mobile or a gsm international.
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But LTE is a gsm technology, currently sprints/Verizons phone (Verizon razr maxx works on international/att networks after a recent update) is a hybrid, but they have weird lte frequencies, I've read that all US carriers will have incompatible freqs, but qualcom is building a chip that does them all plus European ones.
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It's simple, T mobile phone works on At&t HSPA but not LTE. At&t phone works on its own HSPA and LTE but not T moble 1700 HSPA. We've been trying to see if we can make it work on t mobiles 1700 hspa band, no luck yet. To make matters more uncertain. T mobile says they're refarming their 2g/edge spectrum to work on At&t's 1900 HSPA band. The At&t phone out of the box would be able to pick up this 1900 HSPA t mobile refarm. Although reports of this actually occuring are sporadic and they also fired the CEO who's plan it is a couple weeks ago. LoL. If you get that, that's the complete break down. So here you go:
T mobile phone - Supports both T mobile and At&t HSPA 4g speeds, no LTE of any kind.
At&t phone- Supports At&t LTE and HSPA only right now, t mobile HSPA "may" be available for it's antenna's in the future.
I have spent about a month researching T-Mobile and have developed this guide to help everyone who needs the answers to the same questions I had. Soon this guide will be put into a PDF version that is all snazzy looking and will be updated as much as possible. Please note: I am a father and husband with my own business, so I am busy but ALWAYS mobile, feel free to PM me.
I am trying to list the best phones with the top specs in this thread. If I helped you at all, please thank me.
*** All phones confirmed working on 4G may depend on the coverage for your area.
If you have any changes or things I can add to this please PM me and DO NOT post it here. I will update the thread with credit to you!
Update 06/23/2013
Thanks to an awesome member, ozzmanj1, we have now added the Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY R800AT to the list of working 3G/4G devices.
Update 03/20/2013
There will be a website dedicated to T-Mobile Network Phones I am building because I love T-Mobile that much Customer for almost 10 years now. That is already under development.
There is a new prepaid company using T-Mobile towers, I am in contact with many reps, they are called Solavei. It is an amazing opportunity to get money by referring people to join Solavei.
SOLAVEI - You pay $49/mo for 4GB of Data (no caps), Unlimited Everything Else. - I have used their service and I love it. The incentives to get friends to join and family, and even get paid for it, epic. I have made money and continue to, great setup. You can get to the point where you have no phone bill, PERIOD. I'm almost there xD
MINIMUM SPEC REQUIREMENTS
These are the specs each phone must have to be put on my list
5MP Front Camera or Higher
Front Facing Camera
1GB Ram or Higher
1GHz CPU or Higher
Dual-Core or Higher
4.0" Screen or Higher
250ppi or Higher
BEFORE BUYING
TERMS
GSM // (Global System for Mobile Communications) Also known as 2G, EDGE.
EDGE // EDGE is the new name for GSM 384. The technology was named GSM 384 because of the fact that it provided Data Transmission at a rate of 384 Kbps.
2G // Also known as GSM. Short for second-generation wireless telephone technology. Second generation 2G cellular telecom networks were commercially launched on the GSM standard in Finland by Radiolinja (now part of Elisa Oyj) in 1991.
3G // Short for third Generation, is a term used to represent the 3rd generation of mobile telecommunications technology. Also called Tri-Band 3G.
4G // The fourth generation of mobile phone mobile communications standards. It is a successor of the third generation (3G) standards. A 4G system provides mobile ultra-broadband Internet access, for example to laptops with USB wireless modems, to smartphones, and to other mobile devices.
HSPA // an amalgamation of two mobile telephony protocols, High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) and High Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA), that extends and improves the performance of existing 3rd generation mobile telecommunication networks utilizing the WCDMA protocols. A further improved 3GPP standard, Evolved HSPA (also known as HSPA+), was released late in 2008 with subsequent worldwide adoption beginning in 2010. The newer standard allows bit-rates to reach as high as 168 Mbit/s in the downlink and 22 Mbit/s in the uplink.
NETWORK BANDS & FACTS
T-Mobile offers GSM service in both the 850MHz and 1900MHz frequency bands.
T-Mobile utilizes the 1700MHz, 2100MHz, and 1900MHz frequency band for their 3G data network.
T-Mobile utilizes the 1900MHz frequency band for their entire network. (EDGE, GPRS, VOICE, TXT)
Europe and most of the world use the 900MHz and 1800MHz frequency bands for GSM. For a device to use T-Mobile USA and work in Europe, it would need to support the 1900MHz band and one or both of the 900MHz and 1800MHz bands used in Europe.
CHECK THE BANDS!
EDGE, GPRS, VOICE, SMS/MMS > 2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G/HSPA: 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz
AFTER BUYING
CHANGE YOUR APN
Most of the time only International phones will need this step, but you should still check if your 3G is working before this step.
Worldwide APN List for GPRS/DATA > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564459
T-Mobile Guide on Changing APN > http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1979
Specs are all up to you and what you need!
PHONES THAT SUPPORT T-MOBILE BANDS
PHONES CONFIRMED TO WORK ON T-MOBILE 3G
UNLOCKED
LG Nexus 4 (4G WORKS)
Sony Xperia Ion LT28H
Samsung Galaxy S III T999 (4G WORKS)
Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250 (4G WORKS)
AT&T HTC One S (For Help CLICK HERE)
AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket i727 (4G SHOULD WORK. VK1 T-Mobile Radio confirmed working by papabear. It can use both i717 and T989 ROMs. Accelerometer is off by 90 degrees for T989 ROMs, here is the FIX) - Confirmed by papabear
AT&T Note i717 (4G SHOULD WORK) - Confirmed by papabear
Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY R800AT (Up to 7mbps, so far!) - Confirmed by ozzmanj1 - See Device
INTERNATIONAL (Europe, Asia, UK, etc.)
COMING SOON
PHONES CONFIRMED TO WORK ON T-MOBILE 2G/EDGE
UNLOCKED
AT&T Apple iPhone 5 (3G WORKS SOMETIMES)
AT&T Apple iPhone 4/4S (3G WORKS SOMETIMES)
Samsung Galaxy S III I9300 (3G WORKS SOMETIMES) - Confirmed by papabear
All AT&T Phones Should Work (2G/EDGE - Certain Areas 3G/4G)
HTC A9191 Ace, Euro bands (GSM quad band & 3G 900/2100mhz)
INTERNATIONAL (Europe, Asia, UK, etc.)
COMING SOON
UNCONFIRMED PHONES WITH T-MOBILE BANDS
UNLOCKED
Sony Xperia T LT29i
Sony Xperia TX LT30p (Bond Phone)
INTERNATIONAL (Europe, Asia, UK, etc.)
Huawei Honor 2
Huawei Ascend D1 XL U9500E
Huawei Ascend D1
Huawei Ascend D quad XL
Huawei Ascend D quad
Huawei Honor II Quad-Core
Meizu MX Dual-Core
Meizu MX Quad-Core
Xiaomi M1
Xiaomi M2
K-Touch Treasure V8 Tegra 3
K-Touch Hornet II V9 Tegra 3
Send me your working list of phones that are international or unlocked and band specs so I can update this list as frequently as possible.
[email protected] or PM me on XDA.
SPECIAL THANKS
Jeremy Gruver (Scath)
All Authors and Responders of the Threads I have linked to
Everyone who reads this and is helped by it
DISCLAIMER:
This guide is meant to be a reference and help you decide on a phone to use with T-Mobile's Network ONLY. Any advice posted by others are the opinions of the author of that post and is not official advice from me. I am not responsible for any advice given by others that may be incorrect.
hi
Thank you for this valuable training.
You are very welcome! I smiled reading this, makes me happy knowing I helped someone!
Great job man I'm glad you finished it. You can really help a lot of people
Not at the tippy top, but the ATT i727 Skyrocket works well on T-mo
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Not at the tippy top, but the ATT i727 Skyrocket works well on T-mo
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Thanks very much ill add it! Is 4G working?
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This looks like a great guide
A lot of hard work went into it .... and love!
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Thanks very much ill add it! Is 4G working?
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Yes, also the ATT SGH-i717 Note1 works as well. same radios can be flashed as well. So will sim unlock both phones work on T-mo. Some, like me, have better luck with T-mo radios that can be flashed.
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Yes, also the ATT SGH-i717 Note1 works as well. same radios can be flashed as well. So will sim unlock both phones work on T-mo. Some, like me, have better luck with T-mo radios that can be flashed.
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Thanks again! Added and credited!
Bump - reserved
We need more compatible phones added everyone Going to be adding more soon!
Thanks for your research. In the market for a new phone to get off AT&T, may give the Sony LT30p a shot. Will report back if I go that route.
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Re: [GUIDE][MAR 2ND 2013] Unlocked Phones on T-Mobile Network
HTC A9191 Ace, Euro bands (GSM quad band & 3G 900/2100mhz) - I can confirm voice and data work, but no 3G coverage in my area - I'm in a rural part of northern Indiana. Other's experience may vary.
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Adding this to the list guys, thank you! I have a new update coming soon that confirms All AT&T Phones working in certain areas, mainly large markets and cities.
dude thanks for the information, it's just what a lot of people are looking. Keep up the good work.
Re: [GUIDE][MAR 20TH] Unlocked Phones on T-Mobile Network
What's the secret then? Cause, I have a factory unlocked Att Note i717 that just refuses to fully function on Tmobile. (User error clearly).
I just gave up and bought the Tmobile Note2.. Do tell?
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missjennyfleur said:
What's the secret then? Cause, I have a factory unlocked Att Note i717 that just refuses to fully function on Tmobile. (User error clearly).
I just gave up and bought the Tmobile Note2.. Do tell?
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I think it needs to use the fast.tmobile.com APN. Check with Howard Forums user milan03. He seems to know his stuff.
Found this thread and wanted to add that I have an unlocked Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY R800at that I am using on Tmo in Davis County UT (North of SLC) and I get hspa+ on it. Generally consistent speeds of:
5-7mbps down
1-3 mbp up
Been pretty pleased
Hello,
Thanks for this great thread!
I will go for 1 month in USA during holidays and I would know if my (European) HTC One X+ (witch is unlocked) will works on T-Mobile 3G network...
The HTC One X+ is announced as compatible with these bands : HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
And accordind to the first post of this thread, T-Mobile 3G network is using these bands : 3G/HSPA: 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz
It seems that my HTC One X+ is not compatible with the 1700 MHz band... so do you think that my HTC One X+ couldn't be connected to T-Mobile 3G network... or maybe the compatibility with the others T-Mobile 3G bands are enough?
Many thanks in advacne for you help!!!
Hey everyone!
I've been looking on the OnePlus forums lately, and lots of people have questions about carrier compatibility with the One. Personally, carrier compatibility is the biggest factor when it comes to buying an unlocked phone, so I decided to make this thread to help guide people with compatibility with their carriers. According to OnePlus's website, the bands that are supported are as follows:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
Now, I am going to start with USA compatibility. If anyone else would like me to add compatibility with their carrier, please reply to the thread, and I'll see what I can do. Hopefully, this will benefit all members of the community.
USA
AT&T
2G/EDGE/GPRS : Supported on both 850 and 1900 MHz bands
3G/UMTS/HSPA : Supported on both bands 2 and 5.
LTE : Only supported on bands 4 and 17. Bands 2 and 30 are not supported; however, they are usually only deployed to create extra bandwidth in high capacity areas. Band 17 is AT&T's major LTE band.
MVNOs of AT&T : Straight Talk, Net10, AIO
T-Mobile
2G/EDGE/GPRS : Supported on both 850 and 1900 MHz bands
3G/UMTS/HSPA : Supported on both bands 2 and 4 ("4G" HSPA+)
LTE: Supported on currently deployed Band 4. However, T-Mobile plans to deploy Bands 2 and 12 to extend coverage. So, if you have LTE signal now, you're okay. If you don't, then you most likely never will with the One.
MVNOs of T-Mobile : MetroPCS, Ultra Mobile, Lycamobile, Straight Talk, Net10
Sprint
INCOMPATIBLE
Verizon
INCOMPATIBLE
TELUS Details
TELUS is one of the 9 cellular networks in Canada. TELUS is owned and operated by Koodo Mobility and Telus Mobility
TELUS has an average 3G download speed of 4.3 Mb/s, which is better than the global average of 1.8 Mb/s.
TELUS is a 4G network. 4G is the latest generation of cellular technology, allowing high definition video streaming and crystal clear voice calls. We first recorded TELUS 4G on the 11th of Nov 2011. TELUS has an average 4G download speed of 15 Mb/s, which is than the global average of 8.1 Mb/s.
TELUS uses the UMTS 850 / UMTS 1900 frequency bands for its network
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How to figure out whether AT&T or T-Mobile would be best for Straighttalk?
UNITED KINGDOM
It'll work fine on:
EE (Bands 3 & 7 supported by OPO)
Partially:
Three (Band 3 supported, Band 20 isn't by OPO. Band 20 people say will be used for rural areas)
No LTE:
O2 and Vodafone (Both use Band 20 which isn't support by OPO)
3G will obviously be fine however.
Sources:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/c...clear-up.8034/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...etworks#Europe
dracinn said:
How to figure out whether AT&T or T-Mobile would be best for Straighttalk?
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You check the coverage map in your area for each of those providers. The one with better service in your area is the one to go for.
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You check the coverage map in your area for each of those providers. The one with better service in your area is the one to go for.
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Thanks AT&T (Straighttalk) for me.
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Thanks AT&T (Straighttalk) for me.
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That's the cool thing about ST you get the choice of 2 different providers. Glad you were able to figure out the better of the two for your uses. Don't forget to check in areas where you frequently travel to as well.
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http://forums.oneplus.net/threads/carrier-confusion-clear-up.8034/
More carriers and more countries that it's compatible with
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treChoy said:
T-Mobile
LTE: Supported on currently deployed Band 4. However, T-Mobile plans to deploy Bands 2 and 12 to extend coverage. So, if you have LTE signal now, you're okay. If you don't, then you most likely never will with the One.
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Light SGH-T399. It works on T-M's current LTE 1700/2100MHz (band 4), but also 700MHz (band 17), which T-M just purchased from Verizon. A few other newer T-M phones are also made to work on this 700Mhz band. It seems that they were planning ahead.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...TE-network-with-spectrum-from-Verizon_id51000
http://www.phonearena.com/news/As-s...can-look-forward-to-faster-4G-service_id55705
The OnePlus One also works on this 700HMz (band 17) frequency.
Good news for those lucky enough to have LTE with T-Mobile. The 700 band penetrates buildings better, so you'll have a better signal inside Wal*Mart or if you live deep inside a large apartment complex.
Planterz said:
I have the Samsung Galaxy Light SGH-T399. It works on T-M's current LTE 1700/2100MHz (band 4), but also 700MHz (band 17), which T-M just purchased from Verizon. A few other newer T-M phones are also made to work on this 700Mhz band. It seems that they were planning ahead.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...TE-network-with-spectrum-from-Verizon_id51000
http://www.phonearena.com/news/As-s...can-look-forward-to-faster-4G-service_id55705
The OnePlus One also works on this 700HMz (band 17) frequency.
Good news for those lucky enough to have LTE with T-Mobile. The 700 band penetrates buildings better, so you'll have a better signal inside Wal*Mart or if you live deep inside a large apartment complex.
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Very true. T-Mo will probably use this band to expand coverage, Good catch :good:
However, it should be worth noting that T-Mo plans to cannibalize (AKA "refarm") its EDGE network into LTE. This may sound great; however, this EDGE that they will be converting will be broadcasted on the 1900 MHz spectrum (Band 2 LTE). The OPO will not support Band 2, so OPO users on T-Mo will not be able to take advantage of LTE in many rural areas and markets.
Will the phone work in India? Vodafone is my carrier.
Portugal
2G - Full compatibility with Optimus, TMN and Vodafone
3G - Full compatibility with Optimus, TMN and Vodafone
LTE - Compatibility on 1800MHz and 2600MHz frequencies which should cover big population agglomerates on Optimus, TMN and Vodafone. 800MHz left out, so outside cities (and probably inside buildings and small cities) it will most likely revert to 3G.
treChoy said:
AT&T
LTE : Only supported on bands 4 and 17. Bands 2 and 30 are not supported; however, they are usually only deployed to create extra bandwidth in high capacity areas. Band 17 is AT&T's major LTE band.
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Curious, was this written by OnePlus's P.R. team? Because it really downplays what I consider one of the biggest problems with this phone, namely that it is missing half the LTE bands used by AT&T, the biggest OPO-compatible carrier in the U.S.
The argument, "Oh but they're barely deployed", is pretty weak. The fact is the bands ARE deployed, and they're only going to get deployed more because carriers aren't exactly in the business of wasting their valuable licensed spectrum. In high traffic areas where they're in use I assume it would be pretty desirable to have them because the other two bands might be over capacity, or maybe they aren't even operating on the tower you're hitting.
Everyone seems to be brushing this off. I guess it's OK to settle after all?
Italy
2G: full compatibility with TIM;
3G: full compatibility with TIM;
4G: compatibility with TIM only 1800 and 2600 MHz, band 3 and 7.
Jubi Lee said:
Curious, was this written by OnePlus's P.R. team? Because it really downplays what I consider one of the biggest problems with this phone, namely that it is missing half the LTE bands used by AT&T, the biggest OPO-compatible carrier in the U.S.
The argument, "Oh but they're barely deployed", is pretty weak. The fact is the bands ARE deployed, and they're only going to get deployed more because carriers aren't exactly in the business of wasting their valuable licensed spectrum. In high traffic areas where they're in use I assume it would be pretty desirable to have them because the other two bands might be over capacity, or maybe they aren't even operating on the tower you're hitting.
Everyone seems to be brushing this off. I guess it's OK to settle after all?
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I agree, the lack of proper LTE bands really are a turn-off for this phone. Just look at our friends in Europe, whose widely-deployed LTE Band 20 is not supported. I'm not saying that the LTE bands here on AT&T are optimal, but it's worth pointing out that it could be worse. The fact that the One supports Band 17 should be satisfactory for many users; it's AT&T's low-frequency band, so theoretically, it should cover the most people. The higher frequencies would only make sense being deployed in areas with mass congestion. So in cities, it's fair to assume that you'll get lower-than-average LTE speeds.
Now, it could be worse. Take a look at T-Mo users (like myself). We're pretty much getting screwed over. Band 4 LTE, the band that they're using now, is very high frequency. Building penetration sucks. Coverage and range sucks. Their network currently is weak. The new bands they are deploying will be lower frequency, so they should provide more coverage and reliability. However, of course, the OPO doesn't support them, which is a major blow to T-Mobile USA customers.
But hey, for $300 for an amazingly-spec'd phone, we have to expect that some compromises had to be made.
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Will the phone work in India? Vodafone is my carrier.
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India
Vodafone
2G/EDGE/GPRS : most likely supported
3G/UMTS : Yes, Band 1 UMTS is utilized by Vodafone India, and it's supported by the One.
4G LTE : not supported by Vodafone
Anyone knows if it will work in Croatia?
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Anyone knows if it will work in Croatia?
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Any specific carrier?
What about The Netherlands?
Carriers:
Tele2
T-Mobile
KPN
Vodafone
Finland:
All operators (Elisa, Sonera, DNA).
2G 900,1800MHz are both supported
3G 900, 2100MHz are both supported
4G/LTE Channels 3(1800MHz) and 7(2600MHz) are supported. Channel 20(800MHz) is not supported
Lack of support for channel 20 will limit LTE only to densely populated areas.
I'm writing this int he hopes that someones know or has experience using an AT&T Note 4 on the Deutsche Telekom. I've tried looking at the frequencies the Telekom Note 4 uses against what the AT&T version uses, but so far it hasn't really helped.
So far I know that that Edge frequencies are the same across to the two phones (850, 900, 1800, 1900), for the 3g spectrum (UMTS) we have:
Telekom Note 4 with 850, 900, 1900, 2100
AT&T Note 4 with 850, 1900, 2100
and for LTE it's
Telekom Note 4 with 700,800,850,900,1800,2100,2600
AT&T Note 4 with 700, 850, 900, 2100 (Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 17)
So there certainly is some overlap. But I'm looking for someone who has a better understanding of these frequency and compatibility. One bands are the most widely used and available in Germany, etc.
Thanks for any and all help! If it turns out this phoen wont work, there is a great deal going on for the Motorola Moto X pure edition where you get a free Moto E 3g.
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2disbetter said:
I'm writing this int he hopes that someones know or has experience using an AT&T Note 4 on the Deutsche Telekom. I've tried looking at the frequencies the Telekom Note 4 uses against what the AT&T version uses, but so far it hasn't really helped.
So far I know that that Edge frequencies are the same across to the two phones (850, 900, 1800, 1900), for the 3g spectrum (UMTS) we have:
Telekom Note 4 with 850, 900, 1900, 2100
AT&T Note 4 with 850, 1900, 2100
and for LTE it's
Telekom Note 4 with 700,800,850,900,1800,2100,2600
AT&T Note 4 with 700, 850, 900, 2100 (Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 17)
So there certainly is some overlap. But I'm looking for someone who has a better understanding of these frequency and compatibility. One bands are the most widely used and available in Germany, etc.
Thanks for any and all help! If it turns out this phoen wont work, there is a great deal going on for the Motorola Moto X pure edition where you get a free Moto E 3g.
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T-Mobile Germany uses band 3,4, and 7 for its service. They operate hspa and hspa+ services on band 4 and LTE on band 3 and 7. They also support carrier aggregation between bands 3 and 7. SM-N910A from AT&T won't be sufficient on T-Mobile Germany. In order to get the best service, you will need to purchase the European SM-N910F model.
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T-Mobile Germany uses band 3,4, and 7 for its service. They operate hspa and hspa+ services on band 4 and LTE on band 3 and 7. They also support carrier aggregation between bands 3 and 7. SM-N910A from AT&T won't be sufficient on T-Mobile Germany. In order to get the best service, you will need to purchase the European SM-N910F model.
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I don't really mind not being able to get LTE at all times. I expect LTE coverage to be the most complete in larger cities, but the klein dorfs ,etc. not so much.
As long as I get reliable 3g and hspa+ for the most part I'd be content. Having just dropped over $800 I'm not real keen on buying another Note 4.
Are you aware what bands across the different protocols are most prevalent in Germany? I'll be living around the Koblenz area.
Thank you for your post.
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2disbetter said:
I don't really mind not being able to get LTE at all times. I expect LTE coverage to be the most complete in larger cities, but the klein dorfs ,etc. not so much.
As long as I get reliable 3g and hspa+ for the most part I'd be content. Having just dropped over $800 I'm not real keen on buying another Note 4.
Are you aware what bands across the different protocols are most prevalent in Germany? I'll be living around the Koblenz area.
Thank you for your post.
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You will definitely receive 3G service. LTE service will work in some areas, but not all areas. Also, AT&T phones come with a strict modem firmware, therefore your phone might not work with simultaneous data and voice while using it on their network.
They almost went far enough back in 2013 to put a small soldering into the phone's motherboard that recognizes which carrier you are using the phone on (SIM card was not enough for them). If it's not AT&T, the modem will strictly connect to 2G network. This proposal was rejected by all manufacturers. I know this is a whole another story, but I am just letting you know.
LTE-X said:
You will definitely receive 3G service. LTE service will work in some areas, but not all areas. Also, AT&T phones come with a strict modem firmware, therefore your phone might not work with simultaneous data and voice while using it on their network.
They almost went far enough back in 2013 to put a small soldering into the phone's motherboard that recognizes which carrier you are using the phone on (SIM card was not enough for them). If it's not AT&T, the modem will strictly connect to 2G network. This proposal was rejected by all manufacturers. I know this is a whole another story, but I am just letting you know.
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Woher wissen Sie das? Sind Sie eine Deustche?
Thank you once again for your response. Voice really doesn't matter. I will barely use it. It sounds from your description though that I will do OK with the AT&T version. BTW the time I'm bothered by not having consistent LTE there will be a new phone I'll want that I'll ensure has international radios.
Hopefully they are still offering unlimited data and a few minutes for 50 Euro.
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2disbetter said:
Woher wissen Sie das? Sind Sie eine Deustche?
Thank you once again for your response. Voice really doesn't matter. I will barely use it. It sounds from your description though that I will do OK with the AT&T version. BTW the time I'm bothered by not having consistent LTE there will be a new phone I'll want that I'll ensure has international radios.
Hopefully they are still offering unlimited data and a few minutes for 50 Euro.
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I am not German, so I don't know what questions you asked me. I did visit Germany a few times on my business trips. When I was there, I did not have unlimited data, I had the basic 5GB plan with 300 minutes and unlimited texts on T-Mobile Germany. Good Luck to you!
Just so there is a final answer on this. I can report that the phone works fine on Telekom! I am getting 4g lte basically everywhere, except in some remote spots on the autobahn and in smaller towns /villages.
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