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Hello everyone,
I want to share with you my worse-than-a-nightmare experience regarding the HTC support.
My current ticket number is 10USD420004057 in case someone from HTC actually bothers to read this.
I bought my Nexus One the day it was launched, making great efforts to ship it from the US to my country. Then it accumulated a lot of dust under screen and I have decided to let HTC take care of this problem under warranty. I have arranged a phone swap and they sent me a replacement phone. The replacement was basically in "ran by a truck" condition: scratches everywhere, the rear cover would not fit properly ! I have then decided to send the replacement back and send my own phone for repair.
After they finally repaired my phone (about one month later !) they sent it to a wrong address. It was lost. But this is not all ! My previously opened support tickets were changed from my name to another name and there was basically no evidence that I sent my phone to them ! Luckily I had the email notifications from those tickets and also the Google Checkout invoice and I sent them to HTC. Then they said they figured out the problem and they would send a replacement phone over to me. To get to this point, I called every 2-3 days for about a month !
Since then, I keep calling every 2-3 days and also sending emails to them after each call. Every time I call they say "there are no updates". This is happening for over a month !
So my phone is forever lost at HTC and they don't want to send me my phone or another phone back. From the 10 months since I had my Nexus One, it has spent 3 months at HTC before finally being lost.
So I have spent $530 + tax + shipping only to have HTC withold my phone forever.
Right now I am saving money for a Samsung Nexus S but I will still keep calling them every 2-3 days until maybe someone from HTC solves the problem.
This was my nighmare with HTC. My advice to you is DO NOT buy HTC phones ever ! If you ever have a problem with your phone, you're screwed.
PS: when I traveled to the US last year, a friend of mine entered an Apple store with his defective capacitive touchscreen on his first-generation iPhone. They gave him a new iPhone on the spot, in 10 minutes.
Sorry to hear about you're situation mate, sadly things like that can happen. Luckily i've had good experiences, sometimes mentioning legal action can motivate people to send equipment via special delivery
My work gave me a galaxy s which I am loving, shame its got no flash but im looking forward to the nexus s
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I would contact my credit card issuer, personally.
oh man,this is phucked
that's a horrible situation, but it's believable. I've also heard about the replacement service with Apple. How awesome would that be?!?
On a different note, I'm going to laugh if they release a phone with 2.3 on it, before pushing an OTA to the Nexus One. hahaha
Happened to me, and possibly many other users. Their warehouse is so incompetent that it is not even surprising to hear something like this.
The way I got my phone back: talk to the floor supervisor immediately after the phone call is connected. Then threaten him/her that I'm writing to the newspaper/local stations.
After maybe a month or two, you should have someone contacting you. It took me 5 weeks of doing that, every day.
Contact your credit card company and initiate a chargeback for non delivery. Explain the details of the situation and be sure to explain the length of time its been, and the constant promises of rectification; and specificlly that they have never called you back to let you know whats happening.
If they agree the chargeback, then put a list of the events that have happened, and the people you've spoken to and email a copy with a complaint to the CEO of HTC, and whoever used to be responsible at google for the sale of nexus's just for good measure
comments like 'ill never buy a HTC again' arent that effective in complaint letters, use commnets like 'I appreciate in a large organisation errors can occur and are not always spotted, but i am astonished that once it was brought to your attention your company was incapable of dealing with the situation.'. You can also mention writing to the local press, and wether they would like to be quoted on a response.
Humiliation usually works
You never know your chargeback might go through and they might send u a nexus as a good will gesture.
OP- "After they finally repaired my phone (about one month later !) they sent it to a wrong address. It was lost"
That could easily have been the FedEx delivery man's fault instead of HTC. You need to get a FedEx tracking # from HTC and see the address on it to find out if HTC messed up writing the address or if the FedEx driver messed up delivering it.
I used to work at FedEx and knew of a courier that, eventually, got fired because he knew which boxes were iPhones, not deliver them, but say he did in the computer system, and sell them on craigslist.
does this apply for swap replacements? I went with the swap method, where they place a hold on my credit card. i really need the phone asap. What do you guys think, could they screw me up over? say they never received the package when i send it or what not? i would hate to have a wasted 530 on my credit card statement..
i just realized, if you do the swap method, what happens when they receive your phone they decide its not covered under warranty. do they ask for you to mail back their phone or do they say "eff u. u got a new phone, we're gonna keep your old one and charge you that 530 and tax"
i really hope its not the latter. if its out of the warranty, i rather them ask me to send the phone back and get my messed up one back.
im also getting a warranty swap. phones having some trouble reading a sim.
i've been googling and alot of people seem to have some issues with warranty replacement. some say the phones they receive are in worse condition than their old ones. that its has scratches all over the place. this def does not make me feel good. worse cause the cs lady assured me i wont be able to tell the difference between a new phone. lets hope thats true..
HTC Support was great for me!
I sent my nexus one in last thursday to have the power button repaired, they got it the next day and sent me an email that it was being repaired. This Tuesday I checked the repair site and it said it was repaired, I received it the same day, 5 DAYS, Awesome, I thought. Seems they replaced everything except the mother/logic board. My old screen let dust in between screens, had several dings in casing and digitizer was loose. It came back perfect in less than a week, hope you case turns out ok. I have only good things to say about them so far. And all this was at no cost on a phone i bought used.
I had horrible htc experience myself. They also lost my return phone, after 100 phone calls and few weeks later they found it. bunch of idiots over there.
did they apologize and try to make it up to you?
did you do a swap or a repair? i dont understand how a multimillion dollar corporation would be this disorganized..
Just another reason to avoid HTC for the time being. Sorry for your troubles. I hope they send you your N1 back or what you paid for it.
My phone kept rebooting every few seconds so I sent it in. They sent it back and it had the same problem. So I sent it in again. They sent it back a second time with the same problem. I called support again and they asked if I wanted to send it in again to see if they can fix it. I opted for a swap and got a different phone.
Im sorry ur having troubles at htc that does suck but ur glad the next nexus is made by samsung? Not tryin to be a **** but wtf are u smokin? That phone looks like a shiney turd an samsung phones are cheap pieces of ****. Im sorry but samsung doesnt deserve to use the nexus name that belongs to HTC who makes the best phones whether u like them or not.
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My phone kept rebooting every few seconds so I sent it in. They sent it back and it had the same problem. So I sent it in again. They sent it back a second time with the same problem. I called support again and they asked if I wanted to send it in again to see if they can fix it. I opted for a swap and got a different phone.
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This is what I am worried about. I opted to not have a swap sent to me on the off-chance that HTC pulls a "your bootloader is unlocked so we are keeping your 530 bucks" or a sneaky "this is not covered by warranty" trick.
If my phone comes back and still reboots randomly, I am going to call back, opt for a swap and assume that since the first time it was covered by warranty, it should be covered again for the exact same problem (hoping logic is not lost on HTC).
I wish they sent a shipping number when the phone was done. It has been sitting as "repaired" for a couple days now.
I called HTC and told them my phone was randomly rebooting. They sent me an email while on the call with a prepaid fedex label and gave me my ticket number. I mailed it out the next day using the printed prepaid label. I got an email next day that they received my phone. 3 days later I got an email saying the phone was repairs under warranty at no cost and was shipped back. 2 days later the phone was in my hands no issue. Took about 5 days or so but 2 of those were non business days. So I have to say, no arguments about HTC at all here
All is well here...got it today. Relocked bootloader too.
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I just wanted to get this out there because I'm curious how common this is. Having previously owned a Nexus One, HTC support was excellent and replaced the phone twice under warranty, no questions asked. Unfortunately, I've had a hard time dealing with Samsung.
I bought my Nexus S on the day of release in December 2010, and had no major problems with it until May of this year. It's the best phone I've ever owned. In May, the screen started becoming unresponsive so I called Samsung and they said I could ship the phone in for repair and they would pay UPS ground shipping each way. I live near San Francisco, so this would be 5 days each way to Plano, TX where the repair facility is located. No problem, I figured, as long as I get my screen fixed. For the meantime I purchased a new Nexus One on Amazon since I would be without a phone for at least a couple weeks. So I sent in the Nexus S, it took them a week to repair the phone after receiving it, so I was without my Nexus S for three weeks.
So I get the phone back and... bam... screen still doesn't work right. it's nearly completely unusable. Turns out they updated the software, tested it as working, then sent it back. I called Samsung again and after escalating to level three and being on the phone for an hour, they agree to do two day shipping each way and replace the screen components. This is fine with me, as long as the phone gets fixed. I sent the phone in again, and while they two day shipping helped, it was still two weeks that I didn't have my phone.
I get the phone back, and of course, the screen STILL didn't work right. It was so bad I couldn't even type out a text. So I call Samsung again, escalate to level three, and pressure to get the phone switched out. The support rep agrees, and says he has to put in an appeal to get the phone switched out. He said he'd call me back within the next few hours with the result of the appeal, which he did, and my request was approved. So I send the phone in again, two day shipping, and it takes about 5 days to be processed and for a refurbished phone to be sent back to me. Unfortunately, then sent it back ground, so it was 5 business days before I got the refurbished phone.
Once I got the refurbished phone, it did have a few nicks and dings, but it worked perfectly, just as my previous Nexus S had prior to May. The funny thing was the refurb was sent to me already running Cyanogen, which leads me to believe they don't QC their refurb phones very thoroughly, but it was okay since everything seemed to be working as it should. But then a couple days later I tried to use the headphone jack and it didn't work at all. It was completely dead. Go. F'in. Figure.
So I called Samsung again, the level one rep agreed to send the phone in for repair, but he couldn't do anything faster than ground shipping and I didn't feel like wasting more time on the phone. The repair facility received the phone yesterday, so we'll see how it goes. I assume a headphone jack will be easier to repair than the screen was.
I guess what irks me the most was I paid $570 (after taxes) to buy the phone outright, and here I really haven't had it since June when I first started to send it in for repair. I've had to waste my time and their time for a problem that should have been fixed on the first occurrence. Thank god I bought a new Nexus One for the meantime. I would also like to mention Best Buy was no help during any of this either. When the problem first started, they kept saying all they could do was work with Samsung to send it in to the repair center, except I would have to pay half of the shipping. That's just crazy to me, but not surprising.
One last thing I can say is everyone I have talked to at Samsung has been friendly. Level 1 and 2 are obviously offshore, while three are within the United States, but it didn't matter, all were equally friendly and seemed to do their best to help me. They just don't seem to have the power to do much other than send a shipping label for repair.
Sorry about the long rant, but I am obviously a bit frustrated by the whole situation. Fingers crossed when I get the phone back in 10 or so days (my estimate) it will be fixed and functioning properly.
I live in Brazil and here the Samsung support are even worse. But what can i do if they have the best phones?
I hope you get your phone back and fixed without any other delay.
Thx for sharing.
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yes samsung support is horrible i dealt with them very often, and they will not replace / fix the phone for you if it was already fixed once
I live in america and we don't deal with samsung. if my phone breaks (which is has twice) we go to the Sprint store and both times my phone was exchanged in store. No problems here.
p-slim said:
I live in america and we don't deal with samsung. if my phone breaks (which is has twice) we go to the Sprint store and both times my phone was exchanged in store. No problems here.
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I live in the United States too, but when you buy your phone in full, you don't get supported by a carrier. I would have thought Best Buy would assume the role of carrier in this situation, but that wasn't the case.
desertflyer said:
I live in America too, but when you buy your phone in full, you don't get supported by a carrier. I would have thought Best Buy would assume the role of carrier in this situation, but that wasn't the case.
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That means you must have tmobile. If it's a sprint phone you can take it to the sprint service center
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T-Mobile actually has excellent customer support, but they do not sell the Nexus S. Regardless, I just use T-Mobile's network. Simple Mobile is my service provider.
I live in India, My phone had a motherboard issue and they had to replace it. They told it would take 7 days. But i was without my phone for three weeks. If i had paid money for the new motherboard instead of claiming warranty i would have got it in 3 days.
Samsung service sucks.
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I live in the United States too, but when you buy your phone in full, you don't get supported by a carrier. I would have thought Best Buy would assume the role of carrier in this situation, but that wasn't the case.
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Sprint will repair a phone for free if you have insurance or for 35 dollars if you don't. Doesn't matter if its on or off contract. Screw dealing with the manufacturer.
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In the uk you should be covered under warranty for at least the first year and it is the place of purchase that has to deal with your returns, dont you have this support in the US?
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In the uk you should be covered under warranty for at least the first year and it is the place of purchase that has to deal with your returns, dont you have this support in the US?
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It depends on the state, but most don't have rules on warranties. Samsung offers 1 year parts + labor, but Best Buy (who sold me the phone) only have a 30 day policy. So basically I have to live with Samsung's support.
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thecoogster said:
In the uk you should be covered under warranty for at least the first year and it is the place of purchase that has to deal with your returns, dont you have this support in the US?
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This. I would never go through what you're going through if I can avoid it. Seven bucks a month is so worth it.
Sprint has been kick ass in this regard too. I once brought in my EVO to a repair center to get a hot spot screen replaced and they did it no questions. Another time I went in and asked for a replacement battery door and they just gave me one with no issues. I love Sprint man.
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Samsung have "finished" repairing my phone as of today. Here is what they updated the support ticket with:
Original Problem:
TECHNICAL INQUIRY - AUDIO/SPEAKER/SOUND/VIBRATION - DEVICE SOUNDS INAUDIBLE
Problem found:
RINGERTONE INAUDIBLE/NO ADJUST
Solution:
S/W UPDATED - REPLACED COMPONENT
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Keep in mind the problem was a non-working 3.5mm jack. Needless to say, I have zero confidence the problem is fixed.
desertflyer said:
Samsung have "finished" repairing my phone as of today. Here is what they updated the support ticket with:
Keep in mind the problem was a non-working 3.5mm jack. Needless to say, I have zero confidence the problem is fixed.
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Wow. That sucks.
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I got my Nexus S back Monday and it's fixed! I'm running MIUI on it now. Now that everything is working, I'm remembering why I love this phone. Thanks for letting me vent.
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Has anyone bought a Nexus 10 from a place other than the Play store and had to RMA their device? I am curious as how Samsung's service is in terms of getting a replacement unit out to you. Getting a replacement unit from Google is pretty simple but is it as easy to get one from Samsung? Do they attempt to fix the device (for example, if you had light bleeding) or do they send you out a new unit?
Bad service.
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Has anyone bought a Nexus 10 from a place other than the Play store and had to RMA their device? I am curious as how Samsung's service is in terms of getting a replacement unit out to you. Getting a replacement unit from Google is pretty simple but is it as easy to get one from Samsung? Do they attempt to fix the device (for example, if you had light bleeding) or do they send you out a new unit?
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I bought mine from walmart and thought my battery was bad. I called samsung and it was painful to say the least. They transferred me 5 times. Once they sent me to google cause they said they didn't handle nexus products. Google sent me back to them I picked the wifi only option and they told me again it was a google product I told him I just got transferred back by google. He sent me to the manager who again tried to tell me they didn't deal with nexus products. So I told them my problem and told them I felt the battery was bad. He finally just said okay I'll put in a ticket for you to send it to Texas (I believe he said, wasn't really listening as I felt I should have just got a new one). He said the process would take somewhere from 2-3 weeks. I said forget I'll just deal with the bad battery until I can buy one and replace it myself.
The shipping process with Samsung is much the same except that it takes multiple transfers on the phone to find someone that has a screen that can do an RMA ticket on the device. My problem is that in doing the work they don't really make sure they solved the problem you had. I had my screen replaced and they put a worse screen in with four corners of large light bleed and they even managed to scratch up the back of my device. I was upset to say the least and had to ship it back for them to fix their shoddy workmanship. On top of that... I sent mine back on the 16th and it didn't get opened until 2 days after arrival. As of a week ago it has been sitting on hold waiting for parts. So its been in Samsung's hands now for 2 weeks and no word on when they will get whatever parts they need in stock or ship it back. When you ship they pre pay a 2 day air ups label and send it back 2 day air as well. Hope to get it back reasonably soon as the device has been out of use now for over a month. First trip took about two weeks total. Second trip who knows.
BTW, I did buy mine from play but was tired of worse RMA replacements. Everything was perfect on mine other than a little dimming along the camera edge of the screen and a dead pixel.
Sent from my often RMA'd Nexus 4, So that I can use the one I'm using now when I get the 6th and hopefully final one.
Ok, my story with Z3 Compact ended not even started.
Yes, I got lucky and my screen cracked on itself without any force.
And it looked well as sony accepted the phone in US service center even though it was bought in UK.
That's where fun part stops.
First joke is a turn around time. 14 business day for a simple repair. that is at least 3 weeks! Who can wait phone that long?
That means I have to buy a new one and send sony to ebay when and if I got it repaired.
My guess is that people would buy anything else than xperia they just got broken.
What a stupid way to loose customers. Apple store would replace phone in store or take little time to resolve issue for example.
So after 16 business days I called just to hear that part is on back-order with NO ETA!
Also I was told that its not US phone so I should not even expect it to be ready soon.
Nice Sony! Good way to treat your loyal customers.
Seems like my first and last xperia phone unfortunately....
So if you still deciding ... Look at the other phones, that are more rigid or at least have a proper warranty service for 2014.
SonyXperia US has much to catch up.
Sucks man. My screen hasn't cracked yet but if it does this will definitely be my last Sony product.
I hope it won't. I am ok with stuff breaking as soon as you have a good service to get out of the situation.
Sony did not make that easy. The worst part is that there are no more good compact phones around except of iphone and galaxy alpha. which are worse than z3c in many ways.
Sucks that you're phone-less for so long, although Sony is fixing it despite being bought in the UK, which is more than they're doing for some people. Maybe the fact that it's a UK model is why they're not treating the repair with more urgency.
Other than Apple, which other phone manufacturer will instantly replace an unlocked phone as part of the warranty? Normally this is handled through carriers or (if you're lucky) the authorized retailer, but even they usually don't offer the same instant service as Apple. It's why Apple stuff costs so much. Well, that and the fact that iSheep will blindly pay for anything Apple :laugh:
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Sucks that you're phone-less for so long, although Sony is fixing it despite being bought in the UK, which is more than they're doing for some people. Maybe the fact that it's a UK model is why they're not treating the repair with more urgency.
Other than Apple, which other phone manufacturer will instantly replace an unlocked phone as part of the warranty? Normally this is handled through carriers or (if you're lucky) the authorized retailer, but even they usually don't offer the same instant service as Apple. It's why Apple stuff costs so much. Well, that and the fact that iSheep will blindly pay for anything Apple :laugh:
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For samsung, sony and all other manufacturers even if you pay premium price like note 4 for $700 and xperia Z3 $650 you get ****ty service. You wont get instant replacements what so ever.. No proper estimated ship dates, No proper customer support, No Earbuds bundled is what we pay for and seems you enjoy it more
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Ok, my story with Z3 Compact ended not even started.
Yes, I got lucky and my screen cracked on itself without any force.
And it looked well as sony accepted the phone in US service center even though it was bought in UK.
That's where fun part stops.
First joke is a turn around time. 14 business day for a simple repair. that is at least 3 weeks! Who can wait phone that long?
That means I have to buy a new one and send sony to ebay when and if I got it repaired.
My guess is that people would buy anything else than xperia they just got broken.
What a stupid way to loose customers. Apple store would replace phone in store or take little time to resolve issue for example.
So after 16 business days I called just to hear that part is on back-order with NO ETA!
Also I was told that its not US phone so I should not even expect it to be ready soon.
Nice Sony! Good way to treat your loyal customers.
Seems like my first and last xperia phone unfortunately....
So if you still deciding ... Look at the other phones, that are more rigid or at least have a proper warranty service for 2014.
SonyXperia US has much to catch up.
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feel your pain, going through the same thing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/handtec-returns-t2919883
was really glad sony USA would do warranty repair for my phone.. although 14 business day turnaround time seemed like a lot (3 full weeks regularly), but ok. they never emailed me to say they received it - no emails for anything in fact. i had to chat with them to confirm they had received it. and then they returned it to me in about a week - shipped it out in under a week, actually. although i wouldn't have known it had i not seen the 2nd delivery attempt notice on my door. had they emailed me, i would've been looking out for it and had it a few days sooner.
all that's fine, it's their stipulated process and timing, i just could have used some communication throughout. but then comes the icing on the cake. they removed the SIM tray from the phone and sent it back to me without it. so my phone is useless as a phone for a week now, and i'm still waiting to get a replacement or hear anything about it. they've stopped responding to my daily follow-up emails.. the latest response i got had an order number of some kind but no idea where i can put it to check status (it's no retail order number or anything). no tracking. just a blurb that it may take 14 business days to send out a SIM tray to me. and here i thought when i called they'd be like "oh sh*t, we'll get one right out to you asap". but i had to go through this RMA process a second time in order for them to send this to me. i've now owned the phone for 6 weeks, and only 3 of those have i been able to use it. first experience with sony not going so well.
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feel your pain, going through the same thing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/handtec-returns-t2919883
was really glad sony USA would do warranty repair for my phone.. although 14 business day turnaround time seemed like a lot (3 full weeks regularly), but ok. they never emailed me to say they received it - no emails for anything in fact. i had to chat with them to confirm they had received it. and then they returned it to me in about a week - shipped it out in under a week, actually. although i wouldn't have known it had i not seen the 2nd delivery attempt notice on my door. had they emailed me, i would've been looking out for it and had it a few days sooner.
all that's fine, it's their stipulated process and timing, i just could have used some communication throughout. but then comes the icing on the cake. they removed the SIM tray from the phone and sent it back to me without it. so my phone is useless as a phone for a week now, and i'm still waiting to get a replacement or hear anything about it. they've stopped responding to my daily follow-up emails.. the latest response i got had an order number of some kind but no idea where i can put it to check status (it's no retail order number or anything). no tracking. just a blurb that it may take 14 business days to send out a SIM tray to me. and here i thought when i called they'd be like "oh sh*t, we'll get one right out to you asap". but i had to go through this RMA process a second time in order for them to send this to me. i've now owned the phone for 6 weeks, and only 3 of those have i been able to use it. first experience with sony not going so well.
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Haha and they wonder why their sales are falling..
i bought their protection plan for $50.. 2 years covered and they will send me a loaner asap when i send my phone in for repair.
radiohead14 said:
i bought their protection plan for $50.. 2 years covered and they will send me a loaner asap when i send my phone in for repair.
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where did you get that for $50? online it says 79?
sravanz said:
where did you get that for $50? online it says 79?
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employee discount :good:
Where can I get the plan for at least 79? Can I get in in USA for phone I got from Clove?
I'm willing to pay for the plan as soon as it has accidental damage coverage. This is better than going with 3rd party warranty coverage.
Fond here http://store.sony.com/gsi/webstore/...le-Phones-Protection-PLUS-Standalone-Warranty
It says $59.99 + tax I assume.
Will check tomorrow if I can get it for the phone that already went to the service.
Really had no idea that sony has these extra plans for phones.
From my previous experience I had AHD warranty for 3yrs for my laptop from Sony Japan and they easily fixed all issues with shipment around the week even when there was a disaster going in Japan few years back. Japan service worked like a clock. They would also fix issues that I did not report. Just to replace components with fresh ones.
U guys are complaining because it took a week to get a phone not warranted in the usa to be fixed for free.... Try samsung or any unlocked, non apple phone and youll beg to go back to sony.
Oh and apple makes you pay for out of warranty repairs anyway. Like cracked screens.
The biggest joke is the screen cracked by itself. What's this Sony?
i had the back glass crack by itself here in the uk, sony repaired the device for free under warranty.1 week turn around time.
Just as a heads up, most decent credit cards give you an additional year of warrenty (on items costing up to $500) on purchases made with the card. This includes SonyRewards, which also provides 90 days accidental damage protection on purchases up to $500.
When I had a Samsung S4 Active I sent it twice for warranty repair. 2 weeks was normal turn around. Quit complaining.
Just to cool down the drama I see a UPS notification today that my phone is coming home.
I still think that 3 weeks is too much for screen repair. It takes less than a hour to replace it.
It would be ok if I have to wait 3 weeks for TV or Vacuum cleaner but its hard to survive without daily driver as a phone.
Good that I have dozens phones at home to use as a replacement, most people don't. I'm just saying that this is the way for Sony to loose customers.
For most it is better to go to Apple Store, PAY and get it fixed asap than look for a replacement phone, PAY for shipment and wait ... IMHO
Where Sony could improve even with current approach is bring more transparency and feedback. They have not notified me about receiving the phone nor about the backorder delays.
The simplest check my RMA status page would help a lot. I guess it is much more expensive to have staff answering phone calls and chat about RMA status. And all they can say - in progress or yes/no received.
The other way to improve is to start using quality glass and make more durable back for the phones
Meanwhile I started considering LG G2 or Nexus5 as a possible alternative. They are pretty old but still excellent phones. Also fragile though but less.
I feel your pain. I dropped my z3 compact here in the uk and cracked my screen. I sent it off to Sony mobile repair company in the uk and they said that it would take 14 days to come back. They quoted me £97.30 for the repair which is ok I guess, I mean i did drop it. After about a week thee website said that they had diagnosed the phone and it needed a new screen (genius) but that part was out of stock. What kind of repair service doesn't have replacement screens in stock, nice one Sony, how is this your official repairer?
I then found out that I had phone insurance through my work and for £50 I could get a new phone. So I decided to contact the repairer to cancel my repair and get my broken phone back. Despite ringing the repairer numerous times they wouldn't send it back even though every time I spoke to them they said it was in the process of being done. After 10 days I decided to contact Sony customer support and to be fair to them they got it sorted and had my phone back 4 days later. So i get a new z3 compact from my insurance company, and guess what the new phone's battery is ****ed. It drains like 25% every three hours and cant make it through a single day. So I'm back onto Sony and they say it needs to go off for repair. Yep, brilliant so i can wait another 10 days for you to tell me you don't have any parts in stock. So frustrating.
Blimey mate that's rough
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https://lifehacker.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-google-pixel-clas-1822843434
Looks like we might be entitled to a bit of money. The article says we don't have to do anything and will be contacted via mail. I'm not sure how "they" know all of our addresses though. It would be nice if there was a list to join for emailed updates and information. Please leave a comment if you have any further knowledge!
Article TLDR:
WHO?
"According to the filing, the case covers 'all individuals in the United States who purchased a Google Pixel or Pixel XL smartphone, other than for resale, between October 4, 2016 and the present.'" with the exception of "people directly connected to Google or the trial. That includes anyone working at Google, a Google subsidiary, or Google-affiliated company. It also rules out any judges assigned to the case, along with their immediate family."
WHEN?
"For now, there’s not much you need to do. Just by buying a Pixel phone you’re included in the class action lawsuit. Once a trial is approved you’ll probably receive a notice in the mail telling you how to actively join the case. It will also explain how to file a claim once the lawsuit is settled— assuming there’s some money to be had."
WHY?
Google’s Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones suffer from what the company called a “hairline crack in the solder connection on the audio codec.” In some cases, this made it extremely difficult to use the microphone, making phone calls and voice commands impossible.
The company says only 1% of Pixel phones included the defect, but the lawsuit notes that within just a few weeks of the device’s launch people were already reporting issues with the microphone. Instead of offering refunds, Google replaced some defective smartphones with new units that had the exact same issue. Even worse, the company never stopped selling the Pixel and Pixel XL despite mounting evidence that something was wrong.
I feel like I got ripped off by Google, and I'm not buying another, Lots of issues with this phone, and if you take a photo near the sun you get BIG round sun flairs.
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I feel like I got ripped off by Google, and I'm not buying another, Lots of issues with this phone, and if you take a photo near the sun you get BIG round sun flairs.
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That's also every phone and camera that isnt a dedicated camera that costs more than $1000. Do you feel ripped off with a dedicated camera that does this too? And I wouldnt say there were too many problems...some, sure, but enough to deter from buying another Google phone?
The price is more of a deterrent to buying another phone if you ask me.
Yeah I 2nd what @godfish said I bought an EOS Rebel and the damn thing won't make phone calls to save my life. I mean what the hell. But as far as my pixel XL goes, ever since I rooted and unlocked the bootloader and flashed a new rom everyday I seem to have apks crashing, substratum themes that don't mesh well with some apps. Loss of root from twrp. Its all Google's fault. So I was thinking of getting the pixel XL 2. How's it's camera? Does it work under water ?
I don't really get why there's got to be a class action lawsuit their exchange policy is awesome and easy to deal with. Had a problem with mine and it only took about a two-minute phone call before they sent me another one. People are always trying to get a dollar. I won't be joining the class action deal.
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I don't really get why there's got to be a class action lawsuit their exchange policy is awesome and easy to deal with. Had a problem with mine and it only took about a two-minute phone call before they sent me another one. People are always trying to get a dollar. I won't be joining the class action deal.
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My wife had 4 pixels before we demanded a different phone (a galaxy s7) from Verizon. Insane.
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My wife had 4 pixels before we demanded a different phone (a galaxy s7) from Verizon. Insane.
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Yes that's no good. I had the first gen pixels big and small, they had no issues, maybe I got lucky. Then I got the pixel xl2, it had touch screen issue and they replaced it.
My PXL is all good. Did get a P2 and P2XL and both were fault: P2 had speaker issues and the P2XL had the worst blueshift imaginable. Returned both for full refund including all shipping costs,no hassles and no questions.
Not sure this is worth a class-action lawsuit, but then again, I'm not in America. Good luck if you get something (as long as that doesn't then affect the rest of us... Y'know, higher prices, for example)
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I don't really get why there's got to be a class action lawsuit their exchange policy is awesome and easy to deal with. Had a problem with mine and it only took about a two-minute phone call before they sent me another one.
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I refused to RMA because what I get back would not be bootloader unlockable. I've basically been clearing my cache in TWRP every day since November because of the random reboot issue. Many have exchanged phones multiple times and still receive a refurbished device that does the same thing. Without an unlocked bootloader and TWRP, I'd be suffering the same fate as many who just have to watch their phone reboot repeatedly until it dies.
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Yeah I 2nd what @godfish said I bought an EOS Rebel and the damn thing won't make phone calls to save my life. I mean what the hell. But as far as my pixel XL goes, ever since I rooted and unlocked the bootloader and flashed a new rom everyday I seem to have apks crashing, substratum themes that don't mesh well with some apps. Loss of root from twrp. Its all Google's fault. So I was thinking of getting the pixel XL 2. How's it's camera? Does it work under water ?
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I snorted out loud. I almost spit water all over my bed.
If you read Google's own discussion groups, this is a huge problem and there is clearly a manufacturing defect with the motherboard. This problem only affects the XL, it seems.
I was running stock and mine died suddenly at the ripe old age of 16 months. I was lucky compared to many others!
I expect a $100 off brand phone to last longer than 16 months, but I don't expect an off brand company to do anything for me when it dies. Spending nearly $900 on what's marketed as the best piece of premium hardware is different though, but Google could only refer me to an aftermarket shop that wants to charge me $350 for a new motherboard... There's no way to just but the replacement part.
Ignoring the fact that I feel like the right thing for Google to do is extend coverage for manufacturing defects like this, wouldn't the $350 repair simply be replacing my old defective hardware with new defective hardware? If Google won't admit to a problem, it's pretty much impossible for them to assure us that the problem has been addressed and that we should have faith in the replacement parts.
I've never filed a warranty claim in my life and can't stand it when people RMA their devices at the 12 month mark just to get a newer phone or to fix a screen that got cracked when they threw the phone into the wall.
Some of you can laugh if you want, but it will become very much not funny in a few more weeks/months when your device inevitably dies from the same issue.
Unfortunately, you are not the only customer.
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I don't really get why there's got to be a class action lawsuit their exchange policy is awesome and easy to deal with. Had a problem with mine and it only took about a two-minute phone call before they sent me another one. People are always trying to get a dollar. I won't be joining the class action deal.
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I just wrapped up a six month battle to replace a Nexus 6P that had device protection. I was offered a replacement during that famous "2 minute phone call" (6 month after purchase). When I saw I needed to authorize about a GRAND for the replacement I offered to send the phone and wait it out while using my Nexus 5X. I was told quite quickly (despite being told I would have the defective phone replaced with a Pixel XL) "WE WILL SEND YOU WHAT YOU SEND US." me: but you guys just told me you are aware it has a battery issue: " WE WILL SEND YOU WHAT YOU SEND US". 6 months later -and involving the Better Business Bureau: 2 days after emailing BBB -I had the Pixel XL. After asking them for 6 months to honor original solution.
I know a good product when I see one; or at least I respect innovation.
I use their phones for the tower/switch software/set-up.
But, I highly advise to use their system; while not purchasing through them.
If it's in there best interest to resolve the situation quickly and effectively; they will.
If your idea of fair is not inline with them; you are bounced infinitely between dept. Until the BBB jumps in.
Y'all been warned.
Hopefully, they are working on this.
THX. no hard feelings. honestly my 100% experience...
oh well