[Q] Nexus 4 wifi range / bars issue - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a nexus 4 16 gb rev 11 running 4.2.2. it seems like I have a weak wifi reception both at my workplace and at home.
1. When I'm at work 5 meters away from the router. the values I get from wifi analyzer keep on changing constantly from
-54dbm to 66dbm and the bars go from 2/4 to 4/4... Speedtest had good results (26Mbps down/29Mbps up).
2. I walked around the office, on the same levels of reception other devices (S3,S2,S,HTC desire,Gnex) showed more wifi bars. confusing...
3. When I put the Nexus 4 right next to the router it gets -24dBm. (speedtest 26 down/31 up)
I have 3 more days to replace my device and I dunno how to make sure it's just a software issue or a hardware issue. I dont understand
how come the bars keep changing on the same dBm levels that also change rapidly in different locations (I can stand at the same spot and get -71 and then -52 and get from 1 bar to 3) .

It could be the way you hold it. The antennas for the N4 is in the back panel. The wifi antenna is located at the bottom rear of the phone. A slight change in holding it (moving a finger) can make a difference. Also, some router antennas are directional, which could explain the slower speed when placed next to the router.
Hope this helps >.<

leader288 said:
It could be the way you hold it. The antennas for the N4 is in the back panel. The wifi antenna is located at the bottom rear of the phone. A slight change in holding it (moving a finger) can make a difference. Also, some router antennas are directional, which could explain the slower speed when placed next to the router.
Hope this helps >.<
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I tried just now to put it aside on a table and see if the values change and they still do even without me touching it,
I'm in my room right now and it changes from -90dBm and then -75dBm and then after a few seconds -88,-84,-82 and back to -75,
then again it goes back to -90dBm. In this location I get just one bar or no bars at all but the internet still works even with no bars. Why does this happen? =[

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63.18.55.06SU_6.35.17.03 causing problems

I flashed the radio from here http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Hero_(GSM)#Flashing_Radio
It flashed fine, and on my phone it shows 2 bars HSDPA (I was getting 1 bar before)...when it's next to me. If I pick the phone up, after a few seconds it drops to 0 bars
If I put it back down (no further than 30cm from me), it gets 2 bars again!
Anyone else experienced this problem?
Edit: Okay, if I hold my phone with an L shape (left hand, index finger on to top left corner, thumb on the bottom) it has 2 bars, if I then place my hand behind the phone (not touching it) it drops to 0 bars again. Surely this isn't right?
My reception isnt much improved either... but signal at my house is normally zero anyway.
Paramount to that... the phone booted and now says its the 12th November 1980. Any1 else have this problem?
EDIT: im having the same problem as u looie... on the table i get a reception value of "-109" and as soon as i pick it up, it drops to zero!!!
I just tested it as well, and same here. Drops from two bars to zero when holding the hand behind it. Never did test that on another radio though.
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Just tried something
While it was next to me, I ran Speedtest, and got 1.5mbps down, 800kbps up
I picked it up, ran Speedtest again... 380kbps down, 180kbps up
Put it back down, ran Speedtest again... 1.4mbps down, 500kbps up
I'm also having the same problem, the signal bars are continuously decreasing and increasing in strength at the slightest movement.
I'm thinking of going to an older radio.
hm...same here...but only with cyanogenmod and -forks. sense roms seem more stable with radio for me. even the switch from 2g to 3g and backwards does not force a signal loose und sense roms...hmmm...

WIFI Drops, antenna issue?

i noticed that every few seconds or so the wifi icon would go all black, no bars, and the connection of whatever i was doing such as browsing would be lost.
when i did some searching on xda it seems most people believed that it was to do with their routers but one person said it was the antenna being connected to the case at the top left when in portrait so if your hand was holding it there, that would cause it. i held it elsewhere and no drop out.
if i put my hand back there, it wasnt instantly dropped but after a few seconds it did and when i removed my hand again not instant but the signal came back.
anyone else experiencing this?
i just ordered a case that i wanted anyway, will this maybe help this issue also as my hand wont be directly touching that area?
if I put my hand over the top of the device while in portrait view the signal drops down a bit but I don't lose signal.
I've never actually lost signal while in a covered area. At home at the farthest distance from an AC point, I still have good signal w/65Mbps connection.
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cheers.
there is a definate drop from 3-4 bars down to 1-2 bars within 1 second of putting my hand over that location. if at the same time there is maybe something else downloading on my PC or something similar, that causes that last bit of a problem and the signal drops.
You're holding it wrong!
Lol jk I have the same issue too. This tablet has the worst wifi reception of all times... Of all times.
I'm seeing slight issue at 11.g, would probably be accentuated at a further distance from router.. perhaps an external mod, foil under tape?
What does the black dot on WiFi icon indicate?
I experience this exact issue. My router is at the top of the stairs on the 2nd floor. I can sit on the couch downstairs about 20 feet away and this happens all the time. This may be the type of antennas and or software these companies are using in general. My wife has the same issue with the galaxy tab 7.7.
My iPad however reaches through the whole house including from the basement and never drops below the max 4/4 bars on either a 2.4 or 5 Ghz bands.
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I remember reading that apple had some top notch experts working on antenna designs during issues with iphone reception. The rhing is I can get great speeds with good reception, so it must be antenna proficiency that is the issue.
I have this issue too
I have this issue too but I'm not certain it has anything to do with the the way I hold the tablet.
It's really annoying, and I don't have a clue about what the cause is. Like thevuman said, worst wifi reception of all time, of all time.
Wifi channel?
you could try changing your wifi channel through the routers settings because interference may be the problem.
the below app can tell you the best channels to use though my router tells me to not use channel 13 and 14 because it might be incompatible.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwyLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ
once downloaded tap view>channel rating.
alex xander said:
you could try changing your wifi channel through the routers settings because interference may be the problem.
the below app can tell you the best channels to use though my router tells me to not use channel 13 and 14 because it might be incompatible.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwyLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ
once downloaded tap view>channel rating.
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I used wifi analyzer like you suggested and ended up changing my channel and killing the guest network, and it hasn't dropped again, at least not like it used to. So yeah this looks like a good fix.
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Hardware WiFi defect, very weak signal.

1-2 months ago my nexus 7 fell from my hand and it has a small dent in its left top edge. Since then (not sure, noticed it first time 2-3 days after that happened) I have noticed that my N7's WiFi signal has been very weak. The router is 15-20 meters away in some other room and I used to get 2/3 bars in my room and it was basically just great, never had problems with WiFi before. But now I get 1 bar mostly, 2 bars rarely, sometimes I get no bars (WiFi still works, as per usual belief there are not 4 levels cause there are 4 bars, there is also a 5th level of WiFi on android with no bars, fully grey WiFi icon in status bar but WiFi still works but very slow and weak) and sometimes it just disconnects and I have to manually reconnect it in settings or wait some minutes for it to get reconnected.
Something weird I have noticed is that I get normal (like it was in old and normal case, 2-3 bars and no drops and choppyness) WiFi signal sometimes when I have held the tablet in portrait but as soon as I rotate it to right, signal jumps right back to weak (1 bar or no bar or disconnects even) and when I rotate it to left it also jumps to weak (1 bar or 2 bars or no bars) but not as weak as when I rotate to right (upside down is also similarly weak as left side).
Earlier I used to think its software problem cause I believed that if WiFi chip has been damaged then WiFi would have stopped working altogether but now I am pretty sure its hardware damage since I have updated through many night lies of cm10.1/10.2 and I have even tried absolute stock 4.2.2/4.3 and wiping many times. I have also tried many kernels.
My device was bought from US from office max by a relative of mine. I live in India and since the bootloader is also unlocked I doubt warranty will work.
I need help to decide what should I do, it wouldn't have been a problem it signal was just a bit weak but speeds slow down and sometimes WiFi disconnects so it is a problem.
Is there something I can do myself? Should I contact Asus support? The thing with Asus support here in my part of country (my city) is that they take long times to process things.
And also I want to know if someone has any idea how much it (the repair, if any) might cost.
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It sounds like you have probably damaged the wifi antenna.
ASUS warranty support doesn't cover customer damage, but non-warranty support ought to be able to repair it. I don't know how much they would charge, but you can ask them.
It's possible someone with more hardware knowledge could tell you how to troubleshoot it yourself, but I don't know how.

[Q] Wi-Fi Antenna - damage

So I may have ****ed my Wi-Fi Antenna or hopefully some sort of software setting.
I tore down my Note 3 to examine the ear-piece cause it stopped working. However after putting everything back together again, I noticed the Wi-Fi range has DRASTICALLY reduced. To the point where if it is more than 2 meters away Wi-Fi will not work. However if I am right next to the router it works swimmingly.
The Wi-Fi reception signals reflect this as well. Used to get okay strength from everywhere within the house (even upto 10m away through bricks etc) and now pretty much range is useless.
Was wondering if anyone else had experience similar problems after tear downs? and if maybe there is a setting that auto resets when you unplug the antenna. I had absolutely no problems when disconnecting it and looking at the headers again, they seem to be okay.... no physical damage noted. Just wanted to get some opinions before i get a new replacement that may not even help.

Essential Phone antenna issues when holding the phone?

I have discovered that if I'm in a location with mediocre signal (but WITH reception), that if I hold the phone, the signal (bars) will often drop to 0, and carrying out a phone conversation is near impossible. But if I put the phone down (put it on speaker), the bars/reception come back and I can carry out the conversation.
The effect is pretty bad, sometimes going from 3 bars to 0.
I'm on Verizon.
Anyone else experiencing this?
quadcrap1 said:
I have discovered that if I'm in a location with mediocre (but WITH reception), that if I hold the phone, the signal (bars) will often drop to 0, and carrying out a phone conversation is near impossible. But if I put the phone down (put it on speaker), the bars/reception come back and I can carry out the conversation.
The effect is pretty bad, sometimes going from 3 bars to 0.
I'm on Verizon.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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I notice this from time to time as well. I dont know if its more sensitive to certain bands or what but I dont see it all the time but I have seen it more than I would like. Thought it was just me and my service.
Yeah i noticed that as well. I leave !my phone alone overnight, I get "green" reception. Once I start using it, the reception gets temperamental and it drops to yellow, sometimes red
quadcrap1 said:
I have discovered that if I'm in a location with mediocre signal (but WITH reception), that if I hold the phone, the signal (bars) will often drop to 0, and carrying out a phone conversation is near impossible. But if I put the phone down (put it on speaker), the bars/reception come back and I can carry out the conversation.
The effect is pretty bad, sometimes going from 3 bars to 0.
I'm on Verizon.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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I have the same issue. It seems more prominent when I grip the top edges of the phone. Lose significant signal on both WiFi and cellular. Reminds me of antenna gate of the iPhone.
Apple -> "Grip Gate"
Ive noticed that the bars go to nothing when im on WIFI with WIFI calling enabled. No matter how good or bad the signal is where i am. Once i kill WIFI, the bars jump right back up. Im assuming this is a power saver feature. I dont remember my V20 doing this, but I do recall my 6P dropping the bars by half

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