Pebble Watch + Car Bluetooth? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am thinking about purchasing the Pebble SmartWatch. I am curious to if I will be able to connect the watch to my phone while my phone is connected to my truck's bluetooth radio or Bluetooth headset (one at a time). All the reviews i have seen shows it just playing through headphones or the phone's speaker, not through another bluetooth device. Anyone have any experience w/ the pebble watch? 150.00 is alot without confirming that it works.

jason.hamilton said:
I am thinking about purchasing the Pebble SmartWatch. I am curious to if I will be able to connect the watch to my phone while my phone is connected to my truck's bluetooth radio or Bluetooth headset (one at a time). All the reviews i have seen shows it just playing through headphones or the phone's speaker, not through another bluetooth device. Anyone have any experience w/ the pebble watch? 150.00 is alot without confirming that it works.
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I don't think the phone can maintain more than one bluetooth connection at a time. Though my car stereo can so I guess it is possible and just a software issue. Maybe there's an app out there or maybe a Dev could figure it out. BUT since a car stereo connects as a headset MAYBE it could connect to a second device as a data connection (Watch)?
I don't think it's available for the public yet, only shipping to "backers" at this point. Still says "Pre-Order"

My car doesn't have A2DP so I run 2 simultaneous connections and it works perfectly fine. One connection to the car's phone and another for audio through an A2DP device connected so I can listen to music as well as take calls from the car. The phone hands each off just fine. The N4 is perfectly capable of handling multiple Bluetooth connections at a time.
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setzer715 said:
I don't think the phone can maintain more than one bluetooth connection at a time. Though my car stereo can so I guess it is possible and just a software issue. Maybe there's an app out there or maybe a Dev could figure it out. BUT since a car stereo connects as a headset MAYBE it could connect to a second device as a data connection (Watch)?
I don't think it's available for the public yet, only shipping to "backers" at this point. Still says "Pre-Order"
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Th phone can be connected to two things at once. I have my Parrot Minikit Neo and also the HTC stereo stick connected at the same time. So when a call comes in, the Parrot will pick up the call and then when ended, my HTC Stereo stick will continue to play/stream from my phone.
I'm just running PA 3.1 and no audio add-ons/hacks. Using Poweramp and sometimes N7 player to play from my phone.
And I am a backer as well. I have the Grey one on order, and from my understanding, will be one of the last ones to be shipped because they begun shipping only the black pebbles at this point and is approx 30% done with it's backer rewards. So I'll probably get it in May lol.

kpjimmy said:
Th phone can be connected to two things at once. I have my Parrot Minikit Neo and also the HTC stereo stick connected at the same time. So when a call comes in, the Parrot will pick up the call and then when ended, my HTC Stereo stick will continue to play/stream from my phone.
I'm just running PA 3.1 and no audio add-ons/hacks. Using Poweramp and sometimes N7 player to play from my phone.
And I am a backer as well. I have the Grey one on order, and from my understanding, will be one of the last ones to be shipped because they begun shipping only the black pebbles at this point and is approx 30% done with it's backer rewards. So I'll probably get it in May lol.
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Good to know that the phone can handle multiple connections at once!
I just added one of the watches to the cart to see ship time and it's stating a ship time of April-May. I think as a backer you will get it sooner. I'm not getting one, $150 is quite a bit but my wife cannot use her phone at work. It's tough for me to get a hold of her so I was thinking for her. She's an Apple user though so she may just wait and see what Apple releases this year.

setzer715 said:
Good to know that the phone can handle multiple connections at once!
I just added one of the watches to the cart to see ship time and it's stating a ship time of April-May. I think as a backer you will get it sooner. I'm not getting one, $150 is quite a bit but my wife cannot use her phone at work. It's tough for me to get a hold of her so I was thinking for her. She's an Apple user though so she may just wait and see what Apple releases this year.
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I am a backer and I don't expect to see mine until April. lol
They are putting off color orders and producing more black than anything. Their production isn't where they planned on it being either. I expect that April-May shipment for pre-orders to become June-July.

setzer715 said:
Good to know that the phone can handle multiple connections at once!
I just added one of the watches to the cart to see ship time and it's stating a ship time of April-May. I think as a backer you will get it sooner. I'm not getting one, $150 is quite a bit but my wife cannot use her phone at work. It's tough for me to get a hold of her so I was thinking for her. She's an Apple user though so she may just wait and see what Apple releases this year.
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There's a kickstarter called Embrace+ a notifying bracelet. I don't think it will get funded. It has a lofty goal of $250k and it's about 22k into it with 25 days to go lol. Good idea! But sadly won't get made.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/embraceplus/embrace-1
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diablos991 said:
I am a backer and I don't expect to see mine until April. lol
They are putting off color orders and producing more black than anything. Their production isn't where they planned on it being either. I expect that April-May shipment for pre-orders to become June-July.
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What color did you get?

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There's a kickstarter called Embrace+ a notifying bracelet. I don't think it will get funded. It has a lofty goal of $250k and it's about 22k into it with 25 days to go lol. Good idea! But sadly won't get made.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/embraceplus/embrace-1
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Just remember people, Kickstarter is not a store. These investments potentially have much more risk involved.
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What color did you get?
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Gray.

diablos991 said:
Just remember people, Kickstarter is not a store. These investments potentially have much more risk involved.
Gray.
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Cool! Yes I know it's not a store. I have backed quite a few

For the love of everything that is holy I have been trying to find this solution for so long...
I'm basically looking for an Android compatible version of something like the Kensington LiquidAUX setup. For older cars that don't have built in bluetooth but DO have an auxillary in cable, this solution lets you plug the aux in cable into a bluetooth receiver and also gives you a remote that attaches to your steering wheel that can change music tracks. You can see what I mean from these pictures:
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I have been searching and searching and searching and have never found anything that will accomplish this with an Android phone. I had privately always wondered if a Pebble watch could achieve this.

I got my pebble on Friday and have been playing with it all weekend :laugh:. I do love it! I slapped on a skin protector and matte black. Oh and for those who reads the entire thread, I did initially order the grey one, but the colors especially the grey was going to take longer than the black ones, which were produced in abundance and was the first to be produced. Pebble offered to switch to black, which I did and I decided I wanted matte black skin which look awesome IMO. The glossy face looks off with the band. And I am looking at a few cuff bands to house this sucker!
Back to topic. So far the bt plays well with the phone. I can now control my music tracks using my V-Moda M-100's, and also my bt setup in my truck using an HTC Car Clip, which is plugged into my aux port on my head unit. That is paired up with my N4 for playing my tracks. Now I can use my Pebble to skip through tracks! Love it!! No need to wake the phone to swipe.
Also my parrot minikit neo works as well. No conflicts with any of them so far. I will report back if something happens lol.

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For the love of everything that is holy I have been trying to find this solution for so long...
I'm basically looking for an Android compatible version of something like the Kensington LiquidAUX setup. For older cars that don't have built in bluetooth but DO have an auxillary in cable, this solution lets you plug the aux in cable into a bluetooth receiver and also gives you a remote that attaches to your steering wheel that can change music tracks. You can see what I mean from these pictures:
I have been searching and searching and searching and have never found anything that will accomplish this with an Android phone. I had privately always wondered if a Pebble watch could achieve this.
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Ran across this old thread randomly while reading about the Pebble, I know it's blatant necromancy but I felt compelled to post and mention that Kensington made a standard Android compatible version of that device, same name and everything. Only difference is that instead of having the 20 pin cable sticking out it has a USB port down there that will charge any old phone...
The thing is old as dirt and it's actually discontinued I think so good luck finding it, wasn't even meant for Android per se, I've been using mine for the better part of three years! Worked fine with my last dumb phone (a Sony Ericsson) as well as my last three Android phones. The only occasional issue is that it'll lose power if wiggled but that could just be the fault of my 2007 Civic's janky 12V port (never bothered to try it in another car). The brilliant part about this thing is really that wireless remote, I didn't even use that wheel bracelet it comes with, just Velcro'd it to a slot on my Civic's steering wheel and it damn near looks stock. I've no idea what kinda wireless protocol they use or whether it communicates with the phone or directly with the base, I'm pretty sure it's the latter...
There's lots of Bluetooth devices like this one meant to sit in the dash or discretely below it, some might even be better suited if your aux jack and 12V port aren't immediately adjacent (I've seen smaller devices) or if they're pretty hidden (the mic on the LiquidAux isn't great), but I've NEVER seen one with a wireless remote like this (they often don't even have any kinda music playback controls)... And I've looked around occasionally too cause I've got several friends with semi recent 2009-2011 cars without BT built in for whom this would be an awesome gift (plus I'd kinda like a backup, I'm gonna be stuck with my Civic for a few more years still!).
If anyone knows of an alternative I'm all ears, I guess something like the Pebble (not necessarily a $150 smartwatch) that can control playback while another device handles BT streaming would sorta work but it seems like a workaround... I've no idea why Kensington stopped making this thing, it was kinda ahead of it's time IMO since piping music over BT wasn't anywhere near as common or popular when it came out, Android was barely catching on and iOS BT support lagged dumb phones...
In fact I remember being mildly annoyed that my Sony Ericsson dumb phone fully supported the playback controls on the remote yet iOS on my IPod touch (2nd gen) only allowed play/pause but no track skipping (things like that soured me on iOS, that was the one and only Apple device I owned, tho I'm glad to have tried it out). There's tons of BT-less cars on the road for which this would be a perfect solution. Someone oughta petition Kensington to bring it back or put out a rip off thru Kickstarter... I remember paying like $45 for it during a CompUSA sale (before they first closed, yes it's really that old, pretty sure it preceded the iOS version), beats the heck out of replacing your stereo deck just for BT IMO.

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[INFO] Motorola MotoACTV Root/Rom/Info Thread

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I figured since there is finally a place to post this, I will do so here. There is currently ongoing development for the Motorola MotoACTV smart watch. It began simply as a fitness watch, but has evolved with root, recovery, and roms into the best android watch available.
AND IT CAME OUT IN NOVEMBER OF 2011.
Interesting, yes? Let me get you some details from our current wiki (http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/home, started from the members right here on xda):
Code:
Hardware Specs:
Processor: 600MHz OMAP3 (3630) ARMv7 CPU supporting ARM architecture:
- thumb, vfp, vfpv3, edsp & neon. (overclockable to 1Ghz currently)
256MB of RAM and 8GB of NAND Flash Memory (Or 16 GB)
Wifi 802.11B/G/N
Bluetooth 4.0 (low-power mode)
ANT+ for connectivity to fitness sensors (heart rate, etc.)
FM Tuner (with Radio Data System for station & song identification)
PowerVR GPU
1.6" 220x176 capacitive multitouch LCD display
5 hardware buttons on the side:
- (Start, Music, Volume +, Volume -, Standby/Power)
1 additional capacitive button on the front for 'back button'.
Ambient light sensor
White charging and notification LEDs
Accelerometer
GPS
So now that you're intrigued, let me give you some resources to get you started!
Main XDA Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399692
Root Tool and Image Flasher:
MAKE SURE YOU CHARGE TO 100% BEFORE DOING ANY OF THIS!!!
http://www.cleardroidroms.com/motoactv.php
I MEAN IT!!! CHARGE TO 100% BEFORE DOING ANY FLASHING!!!
Overclocking:
Dproldan's Overclock - Easy windows installer in this post
Roms:
ClearDroid MotoACTV
DPRom for MotoACTV
ReACTV Rom
RunKeeperACTV for MotoACTV
FreeFly ROM
CEnnis91's stock roms/AnyRoot
Custom Watch Faces:
Custom Watch Faces Thread
Bluetooth PAN Tethering Instructions (Internet via Bluetooth from Phone to Watch)
Saeviomage's Tutorial
MotoACTV TCX Exporter:
SuperDave's MotoACTV TCX data exporter thread
Known working apps
Known working apps thread
IF YOU DIDN'T LISTEN AND ARE NOW "LOW BATTERY" AND CANNOT FLASH:
First thing's first. It will probably still charge on the wall charger or a car charger. Try that first. But, if it won't...
(or if you're just an avid flasher,) I'd also recommend you get one of these to help you out of jams: Motorola Factory Cable. The one at that link from Team Black Hat is typically out of stock, but a search of the words "Motorola Factory Fastboot Cable" on eBay can get you one for between $5-8. This cable does not charge your unit and does not come with the MotoACTV.
Any questions? Please post below. And GET YOUR ACTV ON!
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What's the cost?
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Mine brand new when they first came out was $249 for the 8g, but substantially lower now, I'm sure.
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I just bought one as well but it still cost me $240 on amazon.
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eBay is always good.
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Update: just checked, they're going for $50-200 on ebay, lots are on there for sale.
Also, I will be updating the first post of this thread with any info/links that you guys need. We would love for more development of this device, since we've been doing it for months/years now.
Wow this seems great! Youtube and a browser. I recently bought myself the Sony Smart Watch, and I was not too impressed with the battery life time, how is this ones?
I also managed to ruin my SmartWatch, but I'm gonna get it refunded from the store I'll probably get this from eBay! Is there any bugs/problems I should know about from the Motorola watch?
I get mine tomorrow, and my only concern/question is how well this handles Bluetooth tethering. I use FoxFi and PDAnet with phone and tablet and i'm hoping I can use the same with the motoactv.
Jakmalmo said:
Wow this seems great! Youtube and a browser. I recently bought myself the Sony Smart Watch, and I was not too impressed with the battery life time, how is this ones?
I also managed to ruin my SmartWatch, but I'm gonna get it refunded from the store I'll probably get this from eBay! Is there any bugs/problems I should know about from the Motorola watch?
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Not really. Battery life for me is around a week, sometimes more if I turn it off at night. I don't leave bluetooth or wifi on unless I need them though, and keep the brightness around half. I also turned off the shake-to-wake feature, as my watch was turning on when I was just walking around and using up battery life with the screen on lol.
But, for such a tiny battery, a week is pretty good in my opinion. Either way, you can just charge it every night if you're a heavy user. Keep in mind, this isn't like those other "smart watches" that only issue notifications, this is a full blown android device.
Joescan said:
I get mine tomorrow, and my only concern/question is how well this handles Bluetooth tethering. I use FoxFi and PDAnet with phone and tablet and i'm hoping I can use the same with the motoactv.
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I know Nook Tether works on it for bluetooth tethering (internet pass through) I believe, but I'm not sure about the others. I've heard of PDAnet also, it might have been another that worked. I don't tether mine though, so I'm not sure.
The only thing I want different is the watch strap, and an XDA user is actually working on a better one right now. I can't wait!
Not really. Battery life for me is around a week, sometimes more if I turn it off at night. I don't leave bluetooth or wifi on unless I need them though, and keep the brightness around half. I also turned off the shake-to-wake feature, as my watch was turning on when I was just walking around and using up battery life with the screen on lol.
But, for such a tiny battery, a week is pretty good in my opinion. Either way, you can just charge it every night if you're a heavy user. Keep in mind, this isn't like those other "smart watches" that only issue notifications, this is a full blown android device.
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I'm leading an auction on eBay at the moment. The "Buy Now" alternatives is too expensive with shipping to Norway :/
A week battery time sounds good to me I had to charge my SmartWatch every day, and that wasn't a problem.
How's the Firefox browser and YouTube app working on the watch?
Jakmalmo said:
I'm leading an auction on eBay at the moment. The "Buy Now" alternatives is too expensive with shipping to Norway :/
A week battery time sounds good to me I had to charge my SmartWatch every day, and that wasn't a problem.
How's the Firefox browser and YouTube app working on the watch?
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Youtube works great, not sure about Firefox though. I think some people used Boat browser or something and had fine results with it.
Is there a way to keep the display on to use as a watch, without pushing a button? How much space does the OS use? Is Ebay prefer over Amazon for purchase?
ronaldheld said:
Is there a way to keep the display on to use as a watch, without pushing a button? How much space does the OS use? Is Ebay prefer over Amazon for purchase?
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It has shake to wake, where you shake your wrist and the display turns on. The os doesn't use much, maybe 200mb or something. I've got the 8 gig version and have plenty of space, even with roms. However, the space for installing apps is limited for the time being. I'm not sure, but there might be a way to partition the space on the device to get more app space.
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I was unaware of the shake to awaken. I will go for the 8 Gb unit when I get the funds. More reading needs to be done to see which ROM may be the best for me. How hard is it for someone to generate a customized ROM without extensive training?
ronaldheld said:
I was unaware of the shake to awaken. I will go for the 8 Gb unit when I get the funds. More reading needs to be done to see which ROM may be the best for me. How hard is it for someone to generate a customized ROM without extensive training?
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The hardest part is the script lol. Making one work is not easy. I've been working on roms for years now and this is the most finicky device I've ever seen.
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I will have to pass on this activity fir now. Does any ROM support an audible alarm and customized time date screen?
It doesn't have a built in speaker. I'm sure you can get the alarm to show on the screen though?
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That could be a problem I was thinking of using the alarm in the morning and when needed. Off to see one at VZW today.
The store did not have any, demo or for sale.
ronaldheld said:
That could be a problem I was thinking of using the alarm in the morning and when needed. Off to see one at VZW today.
The store did not have any, demo or for sale.
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Cool! Let us know what you think! Of course, the one you see won't be rooted or have a regular android launcher on it yet.
I have decided to buy one, preferably at less than ~$250. I would prefer new versus used since they are discontinued and i am uncertain about warrantee. Maybe i can afford to order one next week. No doubt I will have questions, if rooting does not go smoothly.
ronaldheld said:
I have decided to buy one, preferably at less than ~$250. I would prefer new versus used since they are discontinued and i am uncertain about warrantee. Maybe i can afford to order one next week. No doubt I will have questions, if rooting does not go smoothly.
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Just make sure it's charged to 100% before you start, and use the root tool with a windows machine. It should be easy as pie.

Headphones: N4 Compatible

Hello,
Please post headphones that you know of that have remote/playback/volume controls that work with the Nexus 4.
The previous thread got filled with expensive ****, so this thread is intended for regular consumers who want something affordable and compatible with the N4.
LG QuadBeats LE410 which are the ones the Google Play store sell.
One button Beats By Dre Studio works just fine!
i think those that google play sells should be ok
I am currently using a pair of "AURIA Exceed Sports Earphones (2013 version)" which seem to work well with the Nexus 4. Also fairly cheap at around $40 (shipping to the UK was another story though...)
The main reason I went for the headphones was the volume slider which works with the Nexus 4. While probably not quite as efficient as directly controlling the devices volume, however as the N4 doesn't support more than one button on the remote the volume slider does the job. The inline remote also as a mic and single button which works to pause/resume music etc.
The other benefit from my point of view is that the earphones are the older style of in ear ones - ie they rest in the outer part of the ear, rather than having a bit that sticks right into the ear. Personally I find this more comfortable and it also allows me to retain some situational awareness when out walking/jogging. I know some people prefer more noise isolation though!
Jabra Sports are great, but they are towards the pricey side. You can get them from T-Mobile for $78. I use them everyday and they are superb. I never have to take my phone out to change songs or make a call.
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KOSS Porta Pro.
I bought and I'll test.
but I do not have any problem.
Griffin woodtones work awesome .. Also sound great
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Azarin said:
I am currently using a pair of "AURIA Exceed Sports Earphones (2013 version)" which seem to work well with the Nexus 4. Also fairly cheap at around $40 (shipping to the UK was another story though...)
The main reason I went for the headphones was the volume slider which works with the Nexus 4. While probably not quite as efficient as directly controlling the devices volume, however as the N4 doesn't support more than one button on the remote the volume slider does the job. The inline remote also as a mic and single button which works to pause/resume music etc.
The other benefit from my point of view is that the earphones are the older style of in ear ones - ie they rest in the outer part of the ear, rather than having a bit that sticks right into the ear. Personally I find this more comfortable and it also allows me to retain some situational awareness when out walking/jogging. I know some people prefer more noise isolation though!
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I've heard a pair of 'a-Jays' (not sure which one) playback controls work with the N4, when configuring their app. Anyone can confirm?
Any noise cancelling (active or passive) around ear headphones? Does the Sony's headphones work well with Nexus 4? Thanks
Brainwavz R1 is not bad
Gemichi said:
Any noise cancelling (active or passive) around ear headphones? Does the Sony's headphones work well with Nexus 4? Thanks
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The headphones that came with my Sony Clerks Arc do NOT work with N4. Mic is trying to connect continually and awaking Google now search, and sound is awful mono. I bought the lg red edition ones... Worse sound, but they work.
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Any noise cancelling (active or passive) around ear headphones? Does the Sony's headphones work well with Nexus 4? Thanks
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I'd recommend the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 unless you have very large ears. Then go with the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.
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I'd recommend the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 unless you have very large ears. Then go with the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.
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I'm not really sure if my ears are big or not...I had a Bose AE2 before and when I wear it, the top part of my ear is touching the inner top of the headphone.
Gemichi said:
I'm not really sure if my ears are big or not...I had a Bose AE2 before and when I wear it, the top part of my ear is touching the inner top of the headphone.
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The M50's pads are similarly sized, with a slightly different shape. If the fit of the AE2 was uncomfortable, the M50's fit probably would be too.
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The M50's pads are similarly sized, with a slightly different shape. If the fit of the AE2 was uncomfortable, the M50's fit probably would be too.
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Maybe all I need is to adjust the head band. The most I concern about is the noise cancelling. Active noise cancelling always do a better job, but have you tried using it on a bus? and how was it?
Never fails, "any headphones with volume support?" 30 responses and 1 has volume support :rofl:
And as far as I know there aren't any without going bluetooth.
Dear contributors, first post is pretty clear : do you know any earbuds that support volume control + remote and if possible available for a fair price ? Please stop polluting this thread by saying you just bought earbuds and "will report" or that you "don't know" if those earbuds you happen to like are compatible. To be honest most of us don't care since we can't use these informations in any way
Here's my contribution:
Volume control works with these earbuds since it is analogic. They were quite pricey when prime time a few years ago but you can get them for dirt cheap now. Apart from volume control and mic/button, they feature nice things (decent sound, tangle free invisibleshield coated cord, pouch, clever management system ...). I ordered myself a set and got them a few weeks ago. Here's a review with some pics that in my opinion says it all. I found sound quality to be very OK without of course being mindblowing (though clearly comparable to earbuds $20 more expensive i owned). The real highlights here are the clever cable management system and compatible volume control. If you need to know anything else, just ask _ I would totally recommend them for the $27 price tag !
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Deeco7 said:
I've heard a pair of 'a-Jays' (not sure which one) playback controls work with the N4, when configuring their app. Anyone can confirm?
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I have a-jays four (this is the top of the range version). Playback control works as is with google music and every other music app i tried, without requesting any extra app via central button. Sadly no support for volume control though, even with dedicated apps _ volume buttons signals are not compatible with Android. So i wont say they are fully compatible with our phone.
Can someone recommend a earpiece with solid microphone?
I had tried jay one+ but the mic not very good(too soft on the other end).
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Sadly no support for volume control though, even with dedicated apps _ volume buttons signals are not compatible with Android. So i wont say they are fully compatible with our phone.
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Is that a fact? For the years that I've had android phones I never really looked into the issue, I've seen people say there were hardware incompatibilities but if the ability to recognize headphone volume controls is actually absent from the OS that is a bit pathetic. I thought some of the HTC and samsung handsets offer this though, so do they bake it into the OS?
edit - I just checked the S4 and it does support volume control, at least with samsung buds, doesn't answer whether or not android natively supports it but it is at least capable.

2006 Chevy Malibu Nexus 7 Install

So this is something that I would really like to do but have put it off for a few reasons.
I decided that a Nexus 7 car install is the best option for having Android in the car. At first I considered buying an App Radio 3 and using AR Unchained to just mirror my phone on the head unit. But after learning that Pioneer's AR3 head units are less then stellar I decided to abandon that option. Besides, who wants to connect their phone to their stereo everytime they get in the car?
Next I considered buying one of those Chinese made head units with Android 4.2 but for some reason they don't seem to make any that fit my car. Not to mention that after seeing some pretty decent reviews of them on this forum I still feel leery about buying one.
So that leaves me with the only option of installing a tablet in my car.
Right now everything in my car is completely stock. I figured the best way to connect the tablet to my car's speakers is through the replacement of the factory stereo through an aftermarket one, possibly the Pioneer DEH-80PRS which I'm currently considering.
This poses a few problems, the current stereo is a double din so I have the space to work with. However I would have relocate the aftermarket stereo somewhere else. Either behind the tablet like some others have done or in the glove box, something I really don't want to do.
But by doing this I would lose access to the physical volume control on the head unit, I'm trying to figure a way around this but I haven't come to any reasonable conclusions as of yet. I do have steering wheel controls so this is an option, however it doesn't really help much when you have a passenger that want's to control the volume.
Next is the sound quality, I was really hoping that I could plug the Nexus 7 in the head unit through the USB port and have audio transfer that way like with an iPod. But from what I've researched online it seems that this is not possible? Atleast not without a custom ROM anyways, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Next issue is power, I've heard alot of problems keeping the tablet charged in the car. Is there a way to keep it charged even while using it?
If I opt for a DAC that plugs into the Nexus 7 either through USB or the headphone jack, how will I keep the DAC powered?
Thanks
Wow, not one reply...
I've thought this over and over with the plethora of android devices that hang around my house. The best way I think, is to buy a midrange amp with 4chans and run a splitter from the 1/8inch jack.
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Keep in mind that physically installing the tablet in the car without an option for removal will most likely expose it to extreme heat and cold which is highly detrimental to the battery health!
Throwing out bad batteries is terribly damaging to then environment in the case you would like to get a new device also.
Please consider having a stand/deck/clamp that allows you to remove it when you leave the car with you; as this will prolong the life of the battery and keep toxic garbage out of landfills!
shadowmyst87 said:
So this is something that I would really like to do but have put it off for a few reasons.
I decided that a Nexus 7 car install is the best option for having Android in the car. At first I considered buying an App Radio 3 and using AR Unchained to just mirror my phone on the head unit. But after learning that Pioneer's AR3 head units are less then stellar I decided to abandon that option. Besides, who wants to connect their phone to their stereo everytime they get in the car?
Next I considered buying one of those Chinese made head units with Android 4.2 but for some reason they don't seem to make any that fit my car. Not to mention that after seeing some pretty decent reviews of them on this forum I still feel leery about buying one.
So that leaves me with the only option of installing a tablet in my car.
Right now everything in my car is completely stock. I figured the best way to connect the tablet to my car's speakers is through the replacement of the factory stereo through an aftermarket one, possibly the Pioneer DEH-80PRS which I'm currently considering.
This poses a few problems, the current stereo is a double din so I have the space to work with. However I would have relocate the aftermarket stereo somewhere else. Either behind the tablet like some others have done or in the glove box, something I really don't want to do.
But by doing this I would lose access to the physical volume control on the head unit, I'm trying to figure a way around this but I haven't come to any reasonable conclusions as of yet. I do have steering wheel controls so this is an option, however it doesn't really help much when you have a passenger that want's to control the volume.
Next is the sound quality, I was really hoping that I could plug the Nexus 7 in the head unit through the USB port and have audio transfer that way like with an iPod. But from what I've researched online it seems that this is not possible? Atleast not without a custom ROM anyways, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Next issue is power, I've heard alot of problems keeping the tablet charged in the car. Is there a way to keep it charged even while using it?
If I opt for a DAC that plugs into the Nexus 7 either through USB or the headphone jack, how will I keep the DAC powered?
Thanks
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Which version Nexus 7? 2012 or 2013, TIMUR's Rom seems to be the one everyone is using for a fixed install. I am in process of doing a fixed installation for a 2012 Nexus 7 in my weekend fun car, I am using Timurs Rom, I have a Direct HD Tuner and an app a guy on Rootzwiki made for it, I am using a Behringer UCA202 USB DAC to handle the audio.
I too have the Volume control challenge and I don't have the steering wheel controls, the other piece is with the HDTuner, the audio bypasses the Nexus for the tuner so I needed some sort of adjustment. I am still working it out, but many opt for the Clarion EQS746, and I have seen several other brands that seem to be the same..
I am curious how you plan to handle all the integrated info on your radio (Trip, Oil Life, etc) I know that is a stopping poitn for me on my 2007 Malibu MAXX SS, not sure how I duplicate that info and I think if I took the radio out completely I would have other issues
-=Jeff=- said:
Which version Nexus 7? 2012 or 2013, TIMUR's Rom seems to be the one everyone is using for a fixed install. I am in process of doing a fixed installation for a 2012 Nexus 7 in my weekend fun car, I am using Timurs Rom, I have a Direct HD Tuner and an app a guy on Rootzwiki made for it, I am using a Behringer UCA202 USB DAC to handle the audio.
I too have the Volume control challenge and I don't have the steering wheel controls, the other piece is with the HDTuner, the audio bypasses the Nexus for the tuner so I needed some sort of adjustment. I am still working it out, but many opt for the Clarion EQS746, and I have seen several other brands that seem to be the same..
I am curious how you plan to handle all the integrated info on your radio (Trip, Oil Life, etc) I know that is a stopping poitn for me on my 2007 Malibu MAXX SS, not sure how I duplicate that info and I think if I took the radio out completely I would have other issues
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I'm planning on buying the 2013 version. Timur's rom isn't available for the 2nd gen Nexus 7 yet.
I'm not worried about losing the driver information center in the Malibu. If I really wanted to keep it I could buy a metra double din dash kit that includes the driver information center module but I don't feel like spending $240.
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mediumsteak said:
Keep in mind that physically installing the tablet in the car without an option for removal will most likely expose it to extreme heat and cold which is highly detrimental to the battery health!
Throwing out bad batteries is terribly damaging to then environment in the case you would like to get a new device also.
Please consider having a stand/deck/clamp that allows you to remove it when you leave the car with you; as this will prolong the life of the battery and keep toxic garbage out of landfills!
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I don't really live in an area that has wild temperature swings. My car's windows are already tinted and I use a shade on the front windshield so I'm not too worried about it.
I'm more worried about thievery, making it removable especially in a 2006 Malibu would require some sort of modification to the bezel.
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shadowmyst87 said:
I'm planning on buying the 2013 version. Timur's rom isn't available for the 2nd gen Nexus 7 yet.
I'm not worried about losing the driver information center in the Malibu. If I really wanted to keep it I could buy a metra double din dash kit that includes the driver information center module but I don't feel like spending $240.
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I'm doing a removable install in my 2012 impreza.
2013 LTE model
Timurs fi kernel + services (awesome and worth the 43.00, free in may iirc)
Uca202 usb dac
Amp will be alpine ktp445u (fosgate pbr 300x4 would be awesome too but I already have the alpine)
Joycon exr for steering wheel controls.
No need for aftermarket deck, unless you want fm (I haven't listened to fm in 10+ years)
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flyboy1100 said:
I'm doing a removable install in my 2012 impreza.
2013 LTE model
Timurs fi kernel + services (awesome and worth the 43.00, free in may iirc)
Uca202 usb dac
Amp will be alpine ktp445u (fosgate pbr 300x4 would be awesome too but I already have the alpine)
Joycon exr for steering wheel controls.
No need for aftermarket deck, unless you want fm (I haven't listened to fm in 10+ years)
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I wasn't aware that Timur's rom was available for the 2013 Nexus 7 yet, I thought it wasn't going to be available til May?
The aftermarket head unit makes it's easier to integrate into my car's audio system without having to buy a whole lot of extras. The car has 104k miles, I'm not sure I wan't to do alot of modding to it at this point.
Plus, the head unit would serve it's purpose when I have passengers that wan't to connect their phone/mp3 player to listen to their own music. You can't do that with a tablet, atleast not that I know of...correct me if I'm wrong.
I'd also have bluetooth hands free calling with the head unit, not that I'd ever use it anyways.
shadowmyst87 said:
I wasn't aware that Timur's rom was available for the 2013 Nexus 7 yet, I thought it wasn't going to be available til May?
The aftermarket head unit makes it's easier to integrate into my car's audio system without having to buy a whole lot of extras. The car has 104k miles, I'm not sure I wan't to do alot of modding to it at this point.
Plus, the head unit would serve it's purpose when I have passengers that wan't to connect their phone/mp3 player to listen to their own music. You can't do that with a tablet, atleast not that I know of...correct me if I'm wrong.
I'd also have bluetooth hands free calling with the head unit, not that I'd ever use it anyways.
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I have factory hands free and I only use it occasionally (and I drive a stick!) I may get a parrot kit or similar, but undecided so far. The uca202 has an additional input that could be used for it. You can pick up the dac and amp for about 150 on Amazon and not have to worry about stashing it somewhere.
I can't argue your points about passengers, I usually just music we all like anyway.
Timurs kernel is up and running, there is a thread in general I believe. You have to pay now, 35euros with WiFi Mac (kernel linked to that device only) or 50euros w/o mac.
I was using it on the WiFi version, but returned it because Verizon had the lte on sale last weekend for 49.99! I contacted timur and he changed it up for me from wifi to lte within hours!. Been a few updates so far and he sends out emails with notification and a change log.
I think it was worth the 43.00 I spent for it, allows me to test everything, and get most of my stuff figured out.
I'm just stuck on a mount that would look good, I don't want to hack up my dash, because in 2 years I will probably update to something newer. I bought a cheap snap on case, but it fits too well!
All together I have spent only about 230 including the tablet. (I had the amp installed already)
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flyboy1100 said:
I have factory hands free and I only use it occasionally (and I drive a stick!) I may get a parrot kit or similar, but undecided so far. The uca202 has an additional input that could be used for it. You can pick up the dac and amp for about 150 on Amazon and not have to worry about stashing it somewhere.
I can't argue your points about passengers, I usually just music we all like anyway.
Timurs kernel is up and running, there is a thread in general I believe. You have to pay now, 35euros with WiFi Mac (kernel linked to that device only) or 50euros w/o mac.
I was using it on the WiFi version, but returned it because Verizon had the lte on sale last weekend for 49.99! I contacted timur and he changed it up for me from wifi to lte within hours!. Been a few updates so far and he sends out emails with notification and a change log.
I think it was worth the 43.00 I spent for it, allows me to test everything, and get most of my stuff figured out.
I'm just stuck on a mount that would look good, I don't want to hack up my dash, because in 2 years I will probably update to something newer. I bought a cheap snap on case, but it fits too well!
All together I have spent only about 230 including the tablet. (I had the amp installed already)
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$230? That's all you spent?! Perhaps maybe I'm over thinking this, that $49 you spent for the Nexus 7 LTE, obviously that was a two year contract right?
The reason why I'm thinking of buying just WiFi version is because I have a GSIII with a grandfathered unlimited data plan back from 2010 when Verizon was still offering unlimited data. My idea was to just tether that to the tablet considering that it's unlimited anyways. What solution did you use to keep your tablet powered while in use? It seems like that's the biggest PITA from what I've read.
Would you mind taking some pictures of your install if it's not any trouble?
Thank
This is what my dash looks like to give everyone an idea of what I'm dealing with,
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I'm trying to figure out what I can do to mount the tablet infront of the bezel rather then behind it because it's too much of a hassle to take that bezel off.
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$230? That's all you spent?! Perhaps maybe I'm over thinking this, that $49 you spent for the Nexus 7 LTE, obviously that was a two year contract right?
The reason why I'm thinking of buying just WiFi version is because I have a GSIII with a grandfathered unlimited data plan back from 2010 when Verizon was still offering unlimited data. My idea was to just tether that to the tablet considering that it's unlimited anyways. What solution did you use to keep your tablet powered while in use? It seems like that's the biggest PITA from what I've read.
Would you mind taking some pictures of your install if it's not any trouble?
Thank
This is what my dash looks like to give everyone an idea of what I'm dealing with,
I'm trying to figure out what I can do to mount the tablet infront of the bezel rather then behind it because it's too much of a hassle to take that bezel off.
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I can post pics, it will probably be a few weeks though, I'm waiting on some warranty service behind the climate controls so I don't want to install only to have the dealer screw it up.
67 shipped w/tax for nx7 on contract. (If you have unlimited probably should get wifi only)
42 joycon exr
30 for usb dac
30 in cables
15 for power supply (100w converter)
5 for hard plastic case from China
12.50 for hdpe to build a box behind for storage
43 timurs kernel
10 gnd loop isolator
10 for a amp turn on delay
Plus a few more small things i can't remember.
In comparison I was going to get an appradio3, but that was almost 600 after everything i would have needed, plus the mirroring was flaky even with official adapters for my note 2
Timurs kernel + otg charge cable + power supply = charging nx7 + usb peripherals
I plan to build a box the same size the factory radio, put a spacer between it and the hard plastic case and I will just snap the tablet into it, plug in the cable and go. Timurs kernel lets you hotplug audio devices so no rebooting required.
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Search for subaru nexus 7 install, there is one where they built an acrylic case, mounted a case to it and clipped in nx7. I plan to do the same, only the case will be on the outside so I can easily remove it.
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I guess I am closer to 300 all said and done
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5.1 surround sound setup
I'm doing similar in a 04 f150 .. Instead of my headphone jack I'm using the HDMI audio. Have a HDMI audio extractor, that has digital audio outs , I'm running the fiberoptic audio to a small surround sound decoder, 5.1 surround, the decoder has 6 sets of RCAs I'm running to the amplifiers. I'm using a small Bluetooth keyboard with track pad to control volume and what not.. The hdmi audio extractor has a HDMI out put also so I can add a monitor or a projector for a mobile drive-in experience. Between the tab, the slimport, HDMI audio splitter, surround decoder and keyboard, I have about 320-350 invested. Not bad considering the resolution, the navigation, and everything else you'd spend well over a grand or more with any alpine and not have near the capabilities. And of course I have unlimited data with sprint on my phone so a WiFi hotspot keeps the tablets fed with data
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shadowmyst87,
Do you have a like as to the steps to remove the bezel on your malibu? I have no idea how to remove that piece on my 2007 and the dash looks the same..
Thanks
http://www.sound-repair.com/index.php/chevrolet-malibu-04-07-stereo-removal-instructions/
mackeystingray said:
http://www.sound-repair.com/index.php/chevrolet-malibu-04-07-stereo-removal-instructions/
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Thanks
UCA 202 setup
How do you have your Dac set up. I am powering my tablet from a usb hub and when i plug my dac in i get nothing, no lights nada. But my N7 charges just fine. Can you help out here . Also i am running my dac to an aftermarket head unit
The USB hub will not support the video or the audii
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Not IP67 - European version Unova Ironman 320x320, 1GB/8GB, 4.4 Android

European version Unova Ironman 320x320, 1GB/8GB, 4.4 Android
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Not IP67 as stated by Umeox Mobile. The watch is completely dead.
I've had the 320x320 resolution watch for a few weeks, here are my issues:
1. As a potential sports watch I was taken aback by the bulky size and steel body weight of 121g. I'm not sure if it’s practical for sports, the sheer weight might damage or loosen the strap with time if you run a lot with it.
2. The top button did not have a same clicking feel as the bottom button.
3. I can see the glue around the side camera. see photo.
4. The charging socket is heavy, it does not stick well magnetically while charging, if you move the watch its easily comes apart. You have to hold the charger against the watch if you want to use the watch while charging.
5. Difficult to open the back cover to insert an SD card and its not recommended by Unova.
6. The OS need rooting to get to the deeper settings; most of the settings are hidden/locked.
7. Google Maps keeps crashing with location is turned on ...keeps doing it.
8. The sensors are only useful if there are apps for it.
9. With Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on battery it went from 97% to 70% in one hour, but it was on the first charge.
10. Speaker is below average, not too loud; I would depend on it as an alarm.
*** UPDATES: ***
1. AliExpress seller, $199.80 + low shipping (EU 320x320 models only) please confirm with him first.
simple1i said:
European version Unova Ironman 320x320, 1GB/8GB, 4.4 Android
** European Version only - US version will be available once Unova gets 500 orders **
Unova Ironman 320x320 resolution, 1GB RAM, 8GB ROM, IP67.
Available in grey, orange, yellow, (black available soon, ask Unova when you order)
Available directly from Unova for $200 + shipping, using Paypal. Ask them for the cheapest tracked shipping, to UK they offered me $30 shipping. :good:
Please DM (Direct Message) me for the contact email. I can't post it here. If you order its between you and them, please check your transaction carefully.
Also available on AliExpress for $299 including postage.
Specs...
320x 320 resolution. 1GB RAM, 8GB ROM, IP67.
Dimensions: 55*47*15mm
5.0MP side camera
Android 4.4
Sensors: Proximity/G-Sensor/Gyroscope/Accelerometer 6-axis/E-Compass (optional)
... see the Unova website for full specifications.
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does it have 3.5 mm jack ?
and usb port?
how do you heard music?
does it have fm radio?
hackerse7en said:
does it have 3.5 mm jack ?
and usb port?
how do you heard music?
does it have fm radio?
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I don't have the watch yet, unsure about the FM radio, the rest are all 'no'.
does it have 3.5 mm jack ? no
and usb port? sort of - the charging adaptor is a usb connector to connect to PC
how do you heard music? through the built in speaker or Bluetooth headphone/speaker/etc
does it have fm radio? no
CPGOD said:
does it have 3.5 mm jack ? no
and usb port? sort of - the charging adaptor is a usb connector to connect to PC
how do you heard music? through the built in speaker or Bluetooth headphone/speaker/etc
does it have fm radio? no
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Do you have the 320x320 res' model?
CPGOD said:
does it have 3.5 mm jack ? no
and usb port? sort of - the charging adaptor is a usb connector to connect to PC
how do you heard music? through the built in speaker or Bluetooth headphone/speaker/etc
does it have fm radio? no
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Do you have the 320x320 res model?
Does anyone else have this model?
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Do you have the 320x320 res' model?
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no -160 - but the form factor is the same.
Anyone here who has this watch in use on a daily basis? I am thinking about buying this watch. So any opinions on this product here? I am wondering if you can flash a custom rum such as cyanogenmod on it?
I got this with the idea to use it as a running watch, It arrived on Wednesdays but I had to go away for a few days so only had a few hours to play with it.
I got back this afternoon and have had another few hours with it.
So here are my initial impressions.
First of all it is very big and quite heavy at 120 grams.
The screen is very good and the icons of your applications are quite clear, however with certain apps like endomondo, runkeeper and micoach when you open the app the screen either doesn't show all of the information or squashes it.
Other apps such as Facebook and YouTube etc. all work well.
I am disappointed that there is no SD Card slot because I thought that it was going to have one. After I e-mailed Unova I have been informed that there is an SD card slot but you have to take the back of the watch to reach it. In their words "we don't allow end users to open and install themselves."
I won't be using the watch as a phone and do not have a Micro sim card to test it.
The WiFi and GPS seem to function well with Endomondo and Runkeeper both getting a GPS signal in my apartment quite quickly. I haven't tested it outside yet.
The biggest problem I have is that the watch does not recognize my BT heart rate monitor. I have to use a separate app to find it which is okay but Adidas micoach won't connect and neither will Endomondo the two apps that I would have used.
Runkeeper and Wahoo fitness both do find the heart rate monitor though I haven't yet tried it running.
I haven't done a battery test yet.
Overall I am not entirely unhappy with the watch but neither am I blown away by it.
I paid $250 with shipping to France which compared to any of the Android wear watches makes it quite good value with added functionality and certainly when you compare it to some of the more specific GPS sport watches which can run up to $400+.
I have also been told that it is not very water proof so if you do decide to take the plunge be careful getting it wet.
Too Big!
Thanks Gah73 for your detailed answer. The biggest problem i see, and you said it also, in those china smartwatches (or you should better say smartphones) is the fact, that the thickness of this devices is just too high! I saw a screenshot which compared other smartwatches with the Unova Ironman and the Unova is just huge and doesn't look sexy at all (however, the hardware in it is quite sexy though ). I think i will wait for other devices which could replace a smartphone functionality wise but are not bigger then 12 mm.
@Gah73
It would be really great if you could post some photos of the watch (from the sides, from top, from the active display)!
Having spent a few more days with the watch I have to say it is growing on me.
The thickness doesn't bother me so much but the weight is very noticeable.
I have a Sony Smartwatch 3 coming this week and I will choose between them.
I will take some photos of them together but it won't be until the weekend.
I have a feeling that I will be keeping the ironman due to the limitations of the Sony.
Gah73 said:
Having spent a few more days with the watch I have to say it is growing on me.
The thickness doesn't bother me so much but the weight is very noticeable.
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Thank you for posting your experience. I am thinking about getting this for my wife to use when she runs. She doesn't like having to carry her phone with her.
- Is the speaker loud enough to listen to music when you run? (I suspect not)
- Have you tried pairing it with bluetooth running earphones?
- Is there any chance you could install "C25K Couch to 5K by RunDouble" and see if it is usable? (I realize that is a big request, but that is the app my wife uses and there is no point in me getting the watch if it doesn't work). I really wish there was a way to test apps on a small screen to see if they would work without having to get the device first.
It seems like if xposed works on this watch the DPI could probably be changed so that most apps could be made to work.
Thanks again for posting - it really helps those of us who are looking!
RunDouble
The speaker is surprisingingly loud but probably not loud enough to listen to music whilst running.
I have had no problem connecting BT headphones, I use Jabra sport and also have some Plantronics headphones and a Plantronics headset.
I installed the app and it worked well, I connected headphones and a BT heart rate monitor, they both worked.
An advert took up some of the screen but it was very usable I think.
I had previously changed the font size from large to small because when it was large some apps did not fit the screen very well. With it set to small the apps fit better but writing is harder to read.
Thank you very much for your answer,
i am really looking forward to some detailed photos :good:
Maybe you have some answers for my questions:
Can you switch between some different launchers?
Is it possible to root this device and install custom roms on it?
Can you install normal Google Play Store apps?
I haven't tried any different launchers.
The software is pretty good on the phone already.
There is a specific watch launcher on the play store.
You can install all apps on the phone but they might not size very well.
I couldn't log into Google music as I couldn't select my account.
I don't know of any custom ROMs for it, I read that the adidas running watch is based on Android so that would be good if it could be flashed.
Unova have an app that you can install on your phone and then you receive notifications on your watch. That works quite well.
Okay, thanks for your answers. You are really helping me on choosing the right smartwatch
Can you shoot some photos of the watch from different angles (side, top, bottom etc.)? The images on aliexpress are actually meaningless.
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Gah73 said:
The speaker is surprisingingly loud but probably not loud enough to listen to music whilst running.
I have had no problem connecting BT headphones, I use Jabra sport and also have some Plantronics headphones and a Plantronics headset.
I installed the app and it worked well, I connected headphones and a BT heart rate monitor, they both worked.
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Thanks - this is great information. I went ahead and ordered one - hopefully she'll like it.
Is this the same device with different branding: http://forum.xda-developers.com/omate-truesmart/general/poll-umeox-x202-kk4-4-320x320-ip68-t2882896
I think Unova is a brand name for Umeox.
SW_Tech said:
Okay, thanks for your answers. You are really helping me on choosing the right smartwatch
Can you shoot some photos of the watch from different angles (side, top, bottom etc.)? The images on aliexpress are actually meaningless.
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Here are some photos.
Issues
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Here are some photos.
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For those still deciding, please post number 1 for issues.

Hello, total newb here after a little advice ??

Ok so have tried to trawl the web, you tube and xda but am still struggling to work out my best options.
Totally android newbie, have one for work, don’t really use it much.
Been testing car launchers on it and like the experience.
The Handsfree BT on my Mercedes Vitos radio is fubar, so considering a Chinese Android HU.
Currently considering a Merc oem style Xtrons (4 core 2gb ram) this one is 7.1 or the xtrons 10.1” Octaore 2gb ram, oddly this one is only 6?
Want to mainly use it for amazon prime music, blue tooth streaming (iPhone 7/Apple Music) satnav, and DVDs/films for the kids via HDMI to rear screens (vans for camping and trips to France etc).
Ideally dont want to have to update it straight away but equally am up for it if it’s a big boost.
But my main question is, are xtrons ok out of the box or is there a better make I should look at, or rather the same unit but from a re seller with better support or software?.
Also given the octacore units are the latest, why are the running 6?, and is that even a problem?
Really need the blue tooth for making calls to work well as that the reason I need to replace. Seen mixed reviews we mics wired up to cause echoes etc?
Like the oem style but the 10.1” screen is appealing as it will work well if I manage to upgrade to the new shape Vito next year.
Other wise I am considering a Sony Apple car play. But I think I’ll be bored with that and it will be limited and have a small screen whilst not being oem.
Thanks android folk
Anyone? ?
No one?,
I do understand it may seem silly to ask some of these questions but we all have to start someplace?.
I have no idea what a PX3/px5, mctd or mtcu is?.
But I’d like to understand, sadly trying to search this forum is a nightmare as it either pops up an advert with a guy walking about I think changing bank?. Or I get an offer of a free iPhone off virgin media (scam) or it simply crashes and reloads.
If I could get a few pointers it would be cool so I can make an informed decision.
My current thinking is that Basically the entire android HU production is from a few firms. And pretty much the head units have a ton of promise but are pretty much thrown together. So I’m keen to understand which models are less likely to be rubbish.
And also that as standard most have poor software, but this I don’t get as every android phone I’ve had off work is simply running android. I’ve never noticed much difference?. Why do people have to update the Rom when it’s already running Android?.
What’s a PX5?, from what the be seen that’s the 8 core job, generally with 2gb of ram and a 32gb rom.
Some of what I’ve found seems to indicate these should be better? And that the Bluetooth calling mic issue is better.
Best deal on that is with xtrons as all the others (with a 10.1” screen are only quad core for the same cash.
But what’s the most reliable and useable?. The PX3 (quad core mtcu?) or the Px5 ?
Why can’t the PX5 run Android 6?
And due to this should I just get the Merc style quad core running android 7.1?. Will that be more reliable and useable.
And again Xtrons seem the best all round proposition as seller.
Is the software on the Xtrons useable for basic use out the box?, ie reasonable audio, useable hands free?, gps and able to run amazon prime music and other apps foR the kids in the back?.
200-300 isn’t a small chunk of cash when you have a family of 6 so I’m keen to understand what’s the safest entry to Android HU’s and then what’s the deal and how can I learn more about booting etc.
Thanks anymone who can spend a few minutes getting me on the right path for it’d be much appreciated.
Cheers.
Lots of questions, but i'll try and sum up:
1. 200-300 that you'll spend is a gamble. I.e. hardware failures/bricks, lack of or no updates to your ROM.
2. Chinese Android HU's aren't refined. They are built/designed with good intentions, however, the software to go with is sucks.
3. The things that you expect i.e. good AM/FM quality, RDS, BT Calling etc, do work, but probably not the same quality as you'd expect (probably from mainstream headunits)
4. There are a few "good" companies that XDA tends to use more than others i.e. Joying, Pumpkin, HotAudio/Seicane/Daistao. When I put "good" in quotations, that means this is relative. These companies come out with software updates, are some what reasonable with end user support.
5. The gamble is, if you get a ****ty unit, and its hardware related, or if you decide to mod it (in most cases you will need to make the most of the HU), and you brick it.. than you have to ship the devices to China.
6. In terms of running the latest android, there really isn't a big advantage to running 7. If you can, get a unit with 6 on it. Updating has limitless possibilities of screwing up.
7. Since you're an android newb.. troubleshooting is going to be a nightmare for you, if you're not satisfied.
Hope this helps.
Cheers, much appreciated.
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Lots of questions, but i'll try and sum up:
1. 200-300 that you'll spend is a gamble. I.e. hardware failures/bricks, lack of or no updates to your ROM.
2. Chinese Android HU's aren't refined. They are built/designed with good intentions, however, the software to go with is sucks.
3. The things that you expect i.e. good AM/FM quality, RDS, BT Calling etc, do work, but probably not the same quality as you'd expect (probably from mainstream headunits)
4. There are a few "good" companies that XDA tends to use more than others i.e. Joying, Pumpkin, HotAudio/Seicane/Daistao. When I put "good" in quotations, that means this is relative. These companies come out with software updates, are some what reasonable with end user support.
5. The gamble is, if you get a ****ty unit, and its hardware related, or if you decide to mod it (in most cases you will need to make the most of the HU), and you brick it.. than you have to ship the devices to China.
6. In terms of running the latest android, there really isn't a big advantage to running 7. If you can, get a unit with 6 on it. Updating has limitless possibilities of screwing up.
7. Since you're an android newb.. troubleshooting is going to be a nightmare for you, if you're not satisfied.
Hope this helps.
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If / when you do get one could you leave some feedback? I'm looking at exactly the same options as you for a Merc B class as I want the stock look. Thanks
So I’m going to focus on units from Joying and Pumpkin.
Next question is why if they all run android is there software issues?, is there additional software needed to integrate with the car interfaces?.
And do I need an octacore unit (is this px5?) or will a quad core with 2gb ram do?.
Is Xtrons considered to be a bad bet if you don’t want to fiddle too much?. I ask because the same price mark with Joying and Pumpkin is for lower spec hardware or older OS.
And given that they are kind of best of the worst are they worth a premium?.
Was planning on the xtrons with either the octacore as the 10.1” screen or the merc style in the quad core as assumed it was the same inside as the more expensive joying or pumpkin but have noted the rear case can differ and on another thread here the manufacturer is noted as different to the Pumpkin units?
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If / when you do get one could you leave some feedback? I'm looking at exactly the same options as you for a Merc B class as I want the stock look. Thanks
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Will do, I think I’m going to go for the oem look and go for an 8 core as you get 32gb ram built in so I can store amazon music and movies on it for the kids and listening.
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Still tempted on the Xtrons as they’ve got pretty good feedback on trust pilot and at the moment they have 15% off bio first order code so can get it under £300 all in inc an OBDII dongle and a wireless reverse camera (£15 off eBay)
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Or found uk firm selling the same (similar) type for the same money looking like it has an Apple type ui and icons and I’ve seen a Seicane reviewed that had the same look. Apparently they are pretty good. I know the reviewer of the video was pleased.
I’ve mailed them to ask about software support etc.
They have 98.5% on eBay and the negative reviews are not on head units though they have lots of positive.
Oh it’s audio tech direct.
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So I’m going to focus on units from Joying and Pumpkin.
Next question is why if they all run android is there software issues?, is there additional software needed to integrate with the car interfaces?.
And do I need an octacore unit (is this px5?) or will a quad core with 2gb ram do?.
Is Xtrons considered to be a bad bet if you don’t want to fiddle too much?. I ask because the same price mark with Joying and Pumpkin is for lower spec hardware or older OS.
And given that they are kind of best of the worst are they worth a premium?.
Was planning on the xtrons with either the octacore as the 10.1” screen or the merc style in the quad core as assumed it was the same inside as the more expensive joying or pumpkin but have noted the rear case can differ and on another thread here the manufacturer is noted as different to the Pumpkin units?
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They all have software issues since they have no "real" world testing, their application is so varied across so many car models, that they really can't get it right. The pumpkins/joying/seicane have some what better support, and since they're the most "popular" units out here.. you'll get much better XDA support too (which, did I mention is probably better than manufacturer support? lol).
They're worth a premium if you want something different, to test and fidget with.. there is a ton more functionality than standard HU's, but that comes at a price of course.
Just a word of advice.. don't trust reviews on random sale websites, they're of course selling something!
Got a positive email off Audio Tech Direct this morning that explained all the questions I had Re the two units I liked. I did some research and of the two merc units I like one was 99.9% Seicane and the other was 99.9% a Erisn.
They noted they will give firmware support where needed on an if it ain’t broke basis. Suits me as I don’t plan on fiddling beyond maybe a new car style launcher.
Doing an extension at the moment so need to convince the wife later of the need for a potentially disappointing £300 radio [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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If / when you do get one could you leave some feedback? I'm looking at exactly the same options as you for a Merc B class as I want the stock look. Thanks
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Got it yesterday. Really nice, few set up issues to iron out as I was tired last night. But for the 2012 Vito it plugged in and worked straight away.
Happy so far with the unit and the UK seller, it’s a good fit, sound is great, works well looks great. Plugged and played no issues even dash display works on radio channels RDS works, the supplied aerial seems better than stock, didn’t come with the Merc boot screen but that’s in settings and was easy to change (pin code 126 I think).
Love the equaliser and speaker adjust app really good and works well, handsfree is fine via the built in mic (my car one is somewhere in the quad lock so guess it’s not used)
Screens is good, not as sharp as my iPhone but it’s not a £700 Apple product. I had hoped it would be more vibrant but this may be as it was in night mode and I can play with settings. Not used to android so will get my head around it.
Torque app looks good but couldn’t connect to dongle.
Had a few issues getting this onto iPhone WiFi but I think this is the iPhone as it the same with iPad too. WiFi seems good. Was a fair way from house and WiFi from house was connected even though the phone wouldn’t and it’s a newish iPhone 7 so + 1 to the head unit.
Can’t figure out how to change the dash widgets, don’t like the car launchers on android play store so want to get this set for me. Would like weather. Didn’t install till 9:30 last night so was tired.
Only problem really with install was I took the glove box lamp out to help fit a flush mount Usb for the rear usbs on the head units did a bang up job. It the back of the lamp hots it so not have a horror hole. Luckily I can’t see it and will glue some black plastic over it and do it Saturday when I got the parking camera. A class needs a separate power lead which is supplied so still plug and play really.
Starting up isn’t super slow or super fast. By the time I was off the drive it was working, Rev Can mutes radio. Anyway and works ( black screen for now as no camera)
These are the issues and I’m awaiting a response. Till now Audio tech direct have been great with support pre order and on delivery via Sainsburys.
Issues
On the buttons the green phone answer key does not light up green at all, the red does.
On the built in sat navs there’s no post code search that I could find. Will only use it when remote and can’t get in google maps and anyway. Or camping.
Also in the supplied Navigation I have the volume set at max but when using it this morning with the radio although the radio level dips the audio on the Nav is too low to be heard.
Strangely the radio is only on 1 but at one it’s the same as half way on a normal radio, may be a default system volume I need to change? on the drive last night you could hear it outside the van on 1.
Also on the GPs occasionally it (very quietly) says gps lost, though a check shows at least 10 channels and good fix. This is on my drive with clear sky above and driving in open environment. Still navs though.
Gps aerial is currently on dash of van with clear sky view and as noted the sat navs still seeing satellite.
Blue tooth won’t see my BT elm327 dongle?. Might be the dongle not used it before.
Tried mirror link and it connected to my iPhone but just made a horrible screaching and displayed a grey screen.
Can’t get the radio to come on without key in, not a problem in itself though the previous unit did, main problem is as soon as the key is inserted to get it to turn on it assumes you are driving so can’t show video or dvd even if the engine is off and ignition not even on. And if you take key out it powers down.
So you can’t watch video.
Made three BT calls one clear two a bit crackling but the wife was in her car in the sticks on her handsfree and the Sony BT crackles on my iPhone ad2p connection so might be her. Last night to her m bike was fine. So happy ish.
Main thing is how well the seller supports the little issues I have.
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Danno1975 said:
Got it yesterday. Really nice, few set up issues to iron out as I was tired last night. But for the 2012 Vito it plugged in and worked straight away.
Happy so far with the unit and the UK seller, it’s a good fit, sound is great, works well looks great. Plugged and played no issues even dash display works on radio channels RDS works, the supplied aerial seems better than stock, didn’t come with the Merc boot screen but that’s in settings and was easy to change (pin code 126 I think).
Love the equaliser and speaker adjust app really good and works well, handsfree is fine via the built in mic (my car one is somewhere in the quad lock so guess it’s not used)
Screens is good, not as sharp as my iPhone but it’s not a £700 Apple product. I had hoped it would be more vibrant but this may be as it was in night mode and I can play with settings. Not used to android so will get my head around it.
Torque app looks good but couldn’t connect to dongle.
Had a few issues getting this onto iPhone WiFi but I think this is the iPhone as it the same with iPad too. WiFi seems good. Was a fair way from house and WiFi from house was connected even though the phone wouldn’t and it’s a newish iPhone 7 so + 1 to the head unit.
Can’t figure out how to change the dash widgets, don’t like the car launchers on android play store so want to get this set for me. Would like weather. Didn’t install till 9:30 last night so was tired.
Only problem really with install was I took the glove box lamp out to help fit a flush mount Usb for the rear usbs on the head units did a bang up job. It the back of the lamp hots it so not have a horror hole. Luckily I can’t see it and will glue some black plastic over it and do it Saturday when I got the parking camera. A class needs a separate power lead which is supplied so still plug and play really.
Starting up isn’t super slow or super fast. By the time I was off the drive it was working, Rev Can mutes radio. Anyway and works ( black screen for now as no camera)
These are the issues and I’m awaiting a response. Till now Audio tech direct have been great with support pre order and on delivery via Sainsburys.
Issues
On the buttons the green phone answer key does not light up green at all, the red does.
On the built in sat navs there’s no post code search that I could find. Will only use it when remote and can’t get in google maps and anyway. Or camping.
Also in the supplied Navigation I have the volume set at max but when using it this morning with the radio although the radio level dips the audio on the Nav is too low to be heard.
Strangely the radio is only on 1 but at one it’s the same as half way on a normal radio, may be a default system volume I need to change? on the drive last night you could hear it outside the van on 1.
Also on the GPs occasionally it (very quietly) says gps lost, though a check shows at least 10 channels and good fix. This is on my drive with clear sky above and driving in open environment. Still navs though.
Gps aerial is currently on dash of van with clear sky view and as noted the sat navs still seeing satellite.
Blue tooth won’t see my BT elm327 dongle?. Might be the dongle not used it before.
Tried mirror link and it connected to my iPhone but just made a horrible screaching and displayed a grey screen.
Can’t get the radio to come on without key in, not a problem in itself though the previous unit did, main problem is as soon as the key is inserted to get it to turn on it assumes you are driving so can’t show video or dvd even if the engine is off and ignition not even on. And if you take key out it powers down.
So you can’t watch video.
Made three BT calls one clear two a bit crackling but the wife was in her car in the sticks on her handsfree and the Sony BT crackles on my iPhone ad2p connection so might be her. Last night to her m bike was fine. So happy ish.
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