Ubuntu or jelly bean for Samsung 7.7 - Galaxy Tab 7.7 General

Ubuntu is releasing its tablet version this week for developers, but its only for nexus devices, let's hope this will be available for our 7.7 also. My only dream id to run both jb and Ubuntu as dual boot on this tab
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I have spare Galaxy Tab 7.7 that I'm not that actively using, but I would like to try an port the Ubuntu touch for it. Any hints how to start? I have been working with software since 90's but I have no idea how to go forward.
So what I have understood is that what Canodical did was to take latest stable CM 3.5.xx kernel and then compiled their Ubuntu software on top of that?

I don´t know anything about porting ubuntu or roms but this page should help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting Well at least if u guys are talking about ubuntu touch...

https://wiki.Ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
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Thx for help. I'm setting now Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my spare laptop (Acer TimelineX 3820TG) with needed build environments.
I have no guarantees that anything what I'm trying will work, but I really hope that I can avoid bricking my gt-6800 and get the cm10.1 kernel to work with the device. After that it should be quite straight forward to get the build up and running in some shape.

Ok, now I have the environment set-up, but there are no kernel confs available. So it seems that I have to either found them somewhere or create a new one and then try to figure it out. It seems that Iocerras kernel is a bit old (3.0.xx series). We'll, as soon as I have something to show, I'll put the information available in the development section on this forum and release the first version of the platform. But currently the image build is on hold because I need to concentrate my daily work.

Will the cm10.1 not work?
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xrayA4T said:
Will the cm10.1 not work?
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There is no build for gt-p6800 available in CM10.1 with kernel sources. I'm still investigating where I might find the needed sources so that I can compile the kernel and start upgrading it towards 3.5.xx release.

Try this if you want the Ubuntu look right now
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mohammad.adib.sidebar.lite
Works great
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Heh, anyway I think I'm getting quite close to on finishing the first ever build for ubuntu-touch for gt-p6800...
I had to create two new repositories because the kernel and device configuration that is available is so messed up. I hope I do not have many legacy kernel problems anymore when I'm making the first build here.
Are there any gt-p6800 dev's around still or has the ship sailed already from this device. I really like it because its premium build quality, but I hate it if there is no one else interested on the device anymore

YEAH, first build done.
If someone has a good idea where to dump the image for others to test, please notify me in this thread or PM me.
Development thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38648150

is it better than ICS?

Morloc2 said:
is it better than ICS?
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I really cannot say. It is a development preview of a fully linux system that has potential (yes), but no software yet. At all... We'll see if it is better than meego, android or tzisen in future

Is there really need in ubuntu on tablets? Any real "+" against Android?))

@ndrey said:
Is there really need in ubuntu on tablets? Any real "+" against Android?))
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Is there a need for Android for phones? (asks Symbian developer)
Is there a need for iOS for phones? (asks Symbian developer)
Is there a need for Meego for phones? (asks Symbian developer)
It depends on what you find necessary or what you like For you there might not be anything, for me I find it interesting and useful.

dun1982 said:
Is there a need for Android for phones? (asks Symbian developer)
Is there a need for iOS for phones? (asks Symbian developer)
Is there a need for Meego for phones? (asks Symbian developer)
It depends on what you find necessary or what you like For you there might not be anything, for me I find it interesting and useful.
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I think you are user of Ubuntu on PC, so could you please tell me in which aspects is it good?)) I had never used Ubuntu)))
P.S. sorry for my english))

I use Ubuntu as my desktop OS at home. Canonical is looking to make your Ubuntu phone your only device. Android is a great mobile platform but is not a desktop platform. Ubuntu has a desktop platform and a tv platform both sitting on top of a common Linux kernel. If Ubuntu phone works as promised you'll have all three platforms in a single unified device depending on what the device is connected to. Standalone it is a phone/phablet/tablet depending on the device. Attach it to a tv and it is a media centre. Dock it to a keyboard, mouse and monitor it becomes a full desktop. Each with their own interface optimised for that use case rather than trying to make one interface that sort of works for all. If Canonical pulls this off it will be a winner.
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I use Ubuntu as my desktop OS at home. Canonical is looking to make your Ubuntu phone your only device. Android is a great mobile platform but is not a desktop platform. Ubuntu has a desktop platform and a tv platform both sitting on top of a common Linux kernel. If Ubuntu phone works as promised you'll have all three platforms in a single unified device depending on what the device is connected to. Standalone it is a phone/phablet/tablet depending on the device. Attach it to a tv and it is a media centre. Dock it to a keyboard, mouse and monitor it becomes a full desktop. Each with their own interface optimised for that use case rather than trying to make one interface that sort of works for all. If Canonical pulls this off it will be a winner.
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Sounds really cool:victory:
Thanks for answer:good:

I vote for Ubuntu because linux is very good So i think it Will work Great for. You
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I would definetely prefer a well running Ubuntu to Android. Meaning phone, data, wifi working. The hardware of my tablet is almost as good as the hardware of my laptop running Ubuntu. 1.4Ghz vs 1.8 Ghz, 1Gb Ram vs 2.5Gb, powervr xyz vs geforce 7400m. One device to rule them all .

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[Q] Run Ubuntu (or any linux distro) on G3?

Hey all!
I'm just curious. I wanna know if it's possible to run Ubuntu (or any other GNU/Linux distribution) on our little G3 (Guess 256M ram is enough).
Greeting
Like clarkkov said, there is not mouch practicality in having it on phones (except for geekasms), though I could see the potential usefulness on tablets, especially in a dual boot state. I find it kinda odd that no manufacturer is venturing into this, I think a dual boot android/ubuntu tablet would sell big time
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It is possible to run a Linux distro on any Android phone. SG3 is already running a Linux kernel, the problem is a specific linux distro needs to be ported, specifically the GUI. The desktop GUI is meant to work on different hardware, so it needs to be tweaked to work on SG3 hardware. Another problem is the installer, it is also engineered for desktop or laptop PCs and installation from DVD or USB, not for mobile platforms and ROM flashing.
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Thanks for the explanation!
clarkkov said:
So, although it's possible and realistic to run Linux desktop distro, it is too much of a hassle, and imagine Gnome or Unity on a tiny 3.2 inch screen - useless!
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Yeah, see your point there. I was thinking that maybe, if we were able to run ubuntu on our G3, we would be able to use Eclipse and code on it (imagine how cool would that be! xD). But now that you point out the size of the screen (I didn't think it through XD).
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And one more fun fact, there is Windows 95 ported to SG3 if you wan't to geek out, look for it in the black markets.
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Dude, before installing Windows on it, I'd prefer to throw it away...
try meego https://meego.com/
pflorin said:
try meego https://meego.com/
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will meego smoothly run on our g3???
clarkkov said:
It is possible to run a Linux distro on any Android phone. SG3 is already running a Linux kernel, the problem is a specific linux distro needs to be ported, specifically the GUI. The desktop GUI is meant to work on different hardware, so it needs to be tweaked to work on SG3 hardware. Another problem is the installer, it is also engineered for desktop or laptop PCs and installation from DVD or USB, not for mobile platforms and ROM flashing.
So, although it's possible and realistic to run Linux desktop distro, it is too much of a hassle, and imagine Gnome or Unity on a tiny 3.2 inch screen - useless!
Android is basically a Linux distro - Linux kernel with Android GUI instead of Gnome/Unity/KDE/XFCE etc. GUIs.
I personally would see this as a step backwards, because Android was specifically engineered to be a phone friendly Linux distro, Google could slap Gnome onto a phone, but it would be ridiculous.
You can install Terminal and Root Explorer from Android market and have fun just like in Ubuntu.
And one more fun fact, there is Windows 95 ported to SG3 if you wan't to geek out, look for it in the black markets.
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were could i find windows 95 ported on g3??
help porting meego on android device..!!
srinivas07 said:
were could i find windows 95 ported on g3??
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did you find an answer? id like to have a windows 95 running on my phone, it would be so nostalgic, back to the 90s all
anyone want WP7? i liked it..
Alex664 said:
anyone want WP7? i liked it..
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what do you mean wp7? i dont think you can port wp7 just like *click! if you mean theme... i personally tried all the good wp7 themes for our phone along with the launcher 7 pro. it doesnt look good because of LDPI. i tried on a MDPI screen, 65 Thousand colours, works great, but on our crappy yet 16 Million colour screens, it just looks s***...
Hillbeast was porting DEBIAN which something like Linux. You could see that.
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Hillbeast was porting DEBIAN which something like Linux. You could see that.
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debian is really different too ubuntu. ubuntu is more ummm... userfriendly? i guess, debian is for networking freaks i dont think i got it wrong
by the way, the new version of ubuntu (cant remember if its 10.4 or 11.4, or something like that) takes up about 450MB just for the OS (gnome powered) and more for apps, obviously. we would have to use a massive swap partition, half a gig or more to be able to boot it... i dont like that idea. i can smell several sd cards burning already from it
Couldn't you use Linux Installer? It worked for me, although having a Debian/Android dualboot would be a lot better http://android.galoula.com/en/LinuxInstall/
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Couldn't you use Linux Installer? It worked for me, although having a Debian/Android dualboot would be a lot better http://android.galoula.com/en/LinuxInstall/
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i still cant imagine why would you want the linux distros to run on this tiny phone? (other than android obviously, lol) i would prefer writing my own launcher and using that daily im actually trying to learn coding for that very same reason
This is quite an old thread...
Cheers
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I believe that Ubuntu wants to create a version for mobile phone
Android evolved from ubuntu.
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Please dont bump this really old thread...
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Canonical releases Ubuntu Phone OS

Canonical just announced their mobile OS called Ubuntu Mobile
Now, you're probably wondering why I put this in the GNex general.
Let me tell you.
The dev phone at this phase for UM is the one and only, Galaxy Nexus.
As seen here: http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
And in pretty much every picture of it on http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
I made this thread for discussion, speculation and the likes
So, how long do you think until the first build is avalable for us?
UPDATE: Everything we know so far (basic information and release times) are here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/18y9ij/when_this_post_is_3_hours_old_canonical_will/
Official instructions for installation (You need to have a Ubuntu/compatable Linux distribution installed):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
Easiest way to install the preview image:
(Method discovered by eng.stk)
eng.stk said:
For people wondering about install (tried with TWRP):
1. Nandroid backup
2. Factory Reset
3. Grab quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip (MD5: e4c9c5601019ec7ce24f43f317361982) and quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip (MD5: edd3c43909a6e73ac254b2673d40cc53) from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
4. Flash quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip
5. Flash quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip (this one will take a while, grab some coffee :laugh
6. Reboot (screen will go black but after a few seconds Ubuntu is up)
7. Profit :highfive:
This install didn't wiped my sdcard. I just restored my TWRP backup after a short Ubuntu testdrive.
If you are paranoid, just copy your stuf from SDCARD to your PC before flashing.
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How to go back to Android?
It's easy.
You can either restore the Nandroid backup you made earlier (assuming you followed the instructions all the way) or just flash a ROM. It's as easy as that.
Can't friggin wait!
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I don't care as long as it's soon! Both Ubuntu for android and Ubuntu phone OS look awesome. They teased this over a year ago though... So I'm not crossing any fingers.
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Canonical just announced their mobile OS called Ubuntu Mobile
Now, you're probably wondering why I put this in the GNex general.
Let me tell you.
The dev phone at this phase for UM is the one and only, Galaxy Nexus.
As seen here: http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
And in pretty much every picture of it on http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
I made this thread for discussion, speculation and the likes
So, how long do you think until the first build is avalable for us?
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This actually looks better than android to me! CANT WAIT
As already teased and promised, today Canonical is taking the wraps off the mobile version of Ubuntu, which is built around the existing Android kernel and drivers, but doesn't use a Java Virtual Machine and promises to use "the full power of the phone." Supporting both ARM and x86 processors, the Ubuntu phone OS will be compatible enough to let Android phone makers run it on their devices with minimal adaptation.
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source:http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3827922/ubuntu-phone-os-announcement
andes85 said:
I don't care as long as it's soon! Both Ubuntu for android and Ubuntu phone OS look awesome. They teased this over a year ago though... So I'm not crossing any fingers.
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Actually, what they teased (if I remember correctly) is an Android phone, which when docked, puts Ubuntu on an external display.
This is similar, but instead of Android, you have Ubuntu Mobile
Where can I find a flashable image? I must flash it!!!
Can't wait..
Finally an OS without Java virtual machine! Is it true...??
Ubuntu.com/devices they have both Ubuntu os and Ubuntu for android
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Fil-A said:
Where can I find a flashable image? I must flash it!!!
Can't wait..
Finally an OS without Java virtual machine! Is it true...
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And it's almost built for our Nexus. No keys, only gestures
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Just e-mailed them and asked when we'll be able to get it on our device.
Fingers crossed they reply
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3828266/ubuntu-phone-os-hands-on
The verge already have a hands on - nearing the end they mention that the Dev's said an image for the Galaxy nexus will be available in the next couple of weeks!!
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/#continued
engadget hands on
Fil-A said:
Where can I find a flashable image? I must flash it!!!
Can't wait..
Finally an OS without Java virtual machine! Is it true...??
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Yes it does not use java virtual machine
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...on-of-its-os-just-for-your-pocket-superphone/
The "next couple of weeks" according to their press release. This is really sick- instead of running ubuntu on top of android it takes android out of the equation altogether. Plus it runs with current existing Android kernels and drivers. I'm super stoked- Can't wait to get my hands on it either!
Lesicnik1 said:
Canonical just announced their mobile OS called Ubuntu Mobile
Now, you're probably wondering why I put this in the GNex general.
Let me tell you.
The dev phone at this phase for UM is the one and only, Galaxy Nexus.
As seen here: http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
And in pretty much every picture of it on http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
I made this thread for discussion, speculation and the likes
So, how long do you think until the first build is avalable for us?
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Installing Ubuntu on your phone is very easy, you can do this from cwm...
I will keep you guys updated once we release the img files!
Cimi86 said:
Installing Ubuntu on your phone is very easy, you can do this from cwm...
I will keep you guys updated once we release the img files!
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Do you work for canonical?
Glad to see the market moving towards unifying our devices. My only hesitancy is that I use Google Voice for SMS and calls, though no VOIP. I'd need support for that and I'd have to see if Ubuntu One can rival Google Music (or if Google Music will find its way over). Since Voice and Music have both found their way over to iOS in various forms, I'm hopeful and excited. Ubuntu already has good integration with most Google services and it's all Linux so I'm optimistic for support.
That looks so beautiful! I'm not very knowledgeable with this project so I have a question, will it be able to possibly run android applications native or is going to be huge different overhaul of an OS.
edit: NVM, it would appear as if not after reading through their site a bit... But do feel free to tell me.
Febby said:
That looks so beautiful! I'm not very knowledgeable with this project so I have a question, will it be able to possibly run android applications native or is going to be huge different overhaul of an OS.
edit: NVM, it would appear as if not after reading through their site a bit... But do feel free to tell me.
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Yea unfortunately you will not be able to run android apps, it will have it's own specific market place. They have already put up some tips on developing for mobile so Im sure some people have already gotten a head start on it :fingers-crossed: using html 5 or native apps..
Really can not wait for this, I keep checking the website and thread for updates..would be awesome to see a release this week as a surprise. :good:
I would love to try this when it is available.. totally awesome
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Brainstorming.

Is this going to be like Ubuntu in that Ubuntu is essentially Debian with packages added, some tweaks, and different themes and whatnot? (Basically, not trying to undermine the work canonical puts into the OS.) I'm thinking this could be android , but tweaked in the same way Debian is tweaked to become Ubuntu. Or could this be straight up Ubuntu with the phone elements added in? Does anyone have any insight on this? I'd like to know more about what this is going to be.
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teh_cANONs said:
Is this going to be like Ubuntu in that Ubuntu is essentially Debian with packages added, some tweaks, and different themes and whatnot? (Basically, not trying to undermine the work canonical puts into the OS.) I'm thinking this could be android , but tweaked in the same way Debian is tweaked to become Ubuntu. Or could this be straight up Ubuntu with the phone elements added in? Does anyone have any insight on this? I'd like to know more about what this is going to be.
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In Free software, the individual software components are always being reused, and this is the correct practice.
Debian is the upstream distribution for Ubuntu, so the basic packages are related to Debian, and might have some small changes in Ubuntu.
However, the full composition is Ubuntu, which includes additional packages that are currently found only in Ubuntu.
It is acceptable and encouraged in Free software to reuse software components. That's the purpose of Free software.
teh_cANONs said:
Is this going to be like Ubuntu in that Ubuntu is essentially Debian with packages added, some tweaks, and different themes and whatnot? (Basically, not trying to undermine the work canonical puts into the OS.) I'm thinking this could be android , but tweaked in the same way Debian is tweaked to become Ubuntu. Or could this be straight up Ubuntu with the phone elements added in? Does anyone have any insight on this? I'd like to know more about what this is going to be.
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It's straight up Ubuntu, well a fork of Ubuntu for mobile resolutions, touch screens, etc. With added support for ARM devices and Android kernels. You can currently install the ARM version as a full OS on Nexus 7 devices, although it's far from polished as a full OS on tablets. The mobile OS is something different again, and should be great if it's done right. I already use Ubuntu 13.04 as my daily desktop environment, dual booting with winblows only for some games. Ubuntu for desktop just gets better and grows on me more each week, and each update. I imagine the phone OS will be similar, take a little learning, but become addicted with use.
I want to move my project ubnhd2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975081
(currently ubuntu 10.10 & HTC HD2 & DesireHD only)
to the new ubuntu version that comes out soon.
I have some Questions:
I there a standard x-org server or do they bake their own bread like android ?
Can i use Modules from a 2.6.x Kernel Source ?
Can they release it closed-source ?
zo1d said:
I want to move my project ubnhd2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975081
(currently ubuntu 10.10 & HTC HD2 & DesireHD only)
to the new ubuntu version that comes out soon.
I have some Questions:
I there a standard x-org server or do they bake their own bread like android ?
Can i use Modules from a 2.6.x Kernel Source ?
Can they release it closed-source ?
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1. don't know if there is a xserver involved or what, we will see when released.
2. hmm why would you want to do that? We dont know if canonical is using its own kernel based on the android kernel or if it will be the exact android kernel in which the device comes preinstalled.. We will see..
3. No.. sofar I am aware of, the core might be GPL'ed code, just like the Linux Kernel.. But we will first know when released, it could be LGPL too.. Thats what Qt is released on..
When it is released you will find the code on launchpad.
I really don't see why they can't use the same kernel that ships with the phones, since the android tree is included in the Linux kernel, and it is obviously open source. I think it would be trivial to redo tons of work that has already been done.
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Ehh they already said that they're going to use the standard android kernel of the phones....
blackout23 said:
Ehh they already said that they're going to use the standard android kernel of the phones....
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Not really.. They said it is compatible with the android kernel.. As of using its drivers which makes it easier for manufactures to support Ubuntu phone if they already build android phones .... They never said they support the exact one that came with the phone, they might have their own based of the nexus source with their own settings and patches which is what I believe ..
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Not really.. They said it is compatible with the android kernel.. As of using its drivers which makes it easier for manufactures to support Ubuntu phone if they already build android phones .... They never said they support the exact one that came with the phone, they might have their own based of the nexus source with their own settings and patches which is what I believe ..
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Would make sense as it would create more dev opportunities for everyone to try their hand at.
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Maybe someone can shed some light on this?

After reading and watching multiple demonstrations of the Ubuntu phone os. I just can't seem to find features that I can't already do on my android. The notifications drawer is pretty neat in that you can pull it down at different places, but other than that, it just seems like a lightly modded android.
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luc.highwalker said:
After reading and watching multiple demonstrations of the Ubuntu phone os. I just can't seem to find features that I can't already do on my android. The notifications drawer is pretty neat in that you can pull it down at different places, but other than that, it just seems like a lightly modded android.
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I think for most users, they may not find value in this yet (until more apps are available and/or cheaper phones come out), but for those familiar with linux it will make a lot of sense.
I have been a linux developer for 3 years now (as a full time job) and I am just imagining all the cool stuff I can do with this device (at home and at work).
For one thing, you will likely be able to develop (native) apps on the phone itself instead of having to have a separate computer to do it. It might even be possible to develop Android apps!
It's basically a PC in your pocket so the apps will not be as limited as Android and iOS apps. There is still software out there that is not available on Android and iOS because those systems are designed for phones and tablets and don't fully support a desktop style interface. The appeal to an Ubuntu phone is that it can function as both, and you can develop software that will be interchangeable as both.
Thanks for your reply.
I'm not a developer (yet) so I can't say much on the subject. But I do know that you can develop apps directly on an Android device. There's even a Linux terminal Window.
I guess I'll just have to wait and see what people can make out of the phone. till then, I'll just stick to my beloved android
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If you love linux, this *could* be a game changer if it's done right. As BukaKing mentioned, the ability to run native apps on the OS is a huge plus, as you would then be able to make the most of the hardware presented rather than utilising a java engine.
Customisation I am assuming will also be a huge factor - Ubuntu Desktop can be so heavily customised, to function exactly how you want it to, so I am *assuming* that Ubuntu for Phones will be similar. So, just because the OS behaves a particular way on those video's circulating, does not necessarily mean that is how it is destined to remain. Once it's out there in the wild, I would even assume people unhappy with the lack of soft buttons may find them re-appear, as gnome/unity has the ability to create custom panels.
The oportunities I think this OS presents to smartphones is amazing, but in the end it comes down to 2 things for me. Will it be completely open source? If yes, then there could be a bunch of forks/derivitives explode around the webs where teams have customised the OS the way they want it. Developing for it would be far easier, so i'd expect if popularity gets high enough, apps will appear from everywhere. And, implimentation - will it be as easy for a non-linux user to pick up and use, as it will be for a linux user? Hopefully, that answer is yes too.
According to Shuttleworth, it will be 100% opensource! I can't wait till the code is released and we can all play with this. Since it will be using an android kernel and drivers I'm hoping it won't be to hard to compile from source for my phone.
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According to Shuttleworth, it will be 100% opensource! I can't wait till the code is released and we can all play with this. Since it will be using an android kernel and drivers I'm hoping it won't be to hard to compile from source for my phone.
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Helllooo! This what i was waiting for....Open source! so that ports can be made for devices that cant be officially supported by ubuntu. For those who keep saying ubuntu cant on GT-$5660 just STFU! No offense but Samsung said ICS or JB cant fully run properly on gio! and look it runs almost perfectly! So a bit of tweaking ubuntu for my device and we can run this!
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Helllooo! This what i was waiting for....Open source! so that ports can be made for devices that cant be officially supported by ubuntu. For those who keep saying ubuntu cant on GT-$5660 just STFU! No offense but Samsung said ICS or JB cant fully run properly on gio! and look it runs almost perfectly! So a bit of tweaking ubuntu for my device and we can run this!
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:banghead: :banghead: No.. It won't work on the S5660... Ubuntu phone is not android... Have you ever wrote a program? Compiled software? The binary is compiled using the arm hard float v7 instructions, you will need to recompile the kernel, the OS and every damn app.. the native apps are made with C++ not java ... You may be able to get a running build on a arm v6 like the S5660 but you can't install 3rd party apps from the store or proprietary apps unless the developer thought about that and supports it .. Likely not, they will be natively for arm v7 hf only...
If canonical would have chosen soft float instead of hard float then it would have worked, but it will be freaking slow and laggy..
Getting JB on that device is something else, it and android apps are running of a virtual machine .. That is the good thing about managed code and virtual machines and the reason sun Microsystems invented java in the first place ...
QML and c++ is not running off a virtual machine.. Its 100% native ...
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I'm wondering if native C++ Apps will not only be more efficient than Java on Android but if Ubuntu can take more advantage of multi-core systems than Android does. At least I have heared that Android isn't that optimized for multi-core phones.
jscurtu said:
:banghead: :banghead: No.. It won't work on the S5660... Ubuntu phone is not android... Have you ever wrote a program? Compiled software? The binary is compiled using the arm hard float v7 instructions, you will need to recompile the kernel, the OS and every damn app..
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Why does it have to be him that has to do that, some one else could do it and provide an image.
the native apps are made with C++ not java ...
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Yeah, who ever heard of making native apps in java!
The Ubuntu Phone OS equivalent to java will be HTML5.
You may be able to get a running build on a arm v6 like the S5660 but you can't install 3rd party apps from the store or proprietary apps unless the developer thought about that and supports it .. Likely not, they will be natively for arm v7 hf only...
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You go from saying "No.. it won't work" to saying "You may be able to get a running build", nice!
And what proprietary apps are there right now? The only apps that I have seen are either HTML5 or the one native app (the gallery app) that Canonical made which will be open source and can be rebuilt for any device.
Also this same problem exists for Android native app (android has a lot of them), the developers have to build binaries for the different Android devices. So you can port Android to an x86 device but you will not be able to run a lot of games unless they include binaries that support it. Games built with Unity 3D are native apps, games built on Adobe Flash/Air are native apps. Native apps *can be* more efficient in performance, memory and battery than Java apps. Also C++ in the case of mobile devices is more cross platform than Java, since it can be used on both iOS and Android, and the libraries in Android Java are not available on other platforms with Java.
QML itself is not technically native, it depends on how it is used. QML is a mix of objects/widgets and javascript (similar to HTML5), but native C++ code can access QML objects/widgets through Qt.
But that said, if Canonical doesn't officially support a device I would steer clear of updates. I just spent the weekend trying to update my HP Envy from Ubuntu 10.10 to 12.10 and I had a ton of problems, and while it works now, my USB is disabled for some reason (even though internal USB devices work). This isn't the first time this has happened to me with Ubuntu updates.
I wouldn't worry about it for the Galaxy Nexus since it is an officially supported device, but for devices that are ported too by some one else, I would avoid updates coming from Canonical.
Valve is testing Steam games for Ubuntu so we could be playing some real games on our phones soon.
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Valve is testing Steam games for Ubuntu so we could be playing some real games on our phones soon.
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ARM != x86 .....
blackout23 said:
ARM != x86 .....
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What about those x86 based phones?
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What about those x86 based phones?
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The smartphone GPU drivers and chips probably don't support OpenGL 3.0 like Steam games require.
Smartphones never had full blown OpenGL only OpenGLES (Embedded System).
Desktop PCs are still waaay more powerful than any smartphone. Any cheap Celeron CPU for 40 bucks will obliterate your Intel Atom powered smartphone.

[request] Ubuntu Touch for Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 GT-5100/Gt-5110

Ubuntu Touch has been ported the Note 2 and Note 10.1 (2013 version) with nearly identical internals. Ubuntu Touch is also based on CM 10 and requires a CM 10 port, the Note 8.0 already has a CM 10 port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457346 I see no reason why an Ubuntu Touch for the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 would not be possible.
I agree with you...
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I might try my hand at this after I've sorted my university stuff - its been a while since I've done any ROM stuff
Thanks in advance if you're willing to try to port it, I'm really looking forward to this
Kernel and other stuff are the same, so theoretically you could use my sources (kernel, hardware, etc) with the n5110 device repo, and maybe it would work.
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Quoting OP of the Ubuntu Port thread for Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168999
And is it possible to make it dual boot between Ubuntu Touch and Android?
PS. Please port Ubuntu Touch for GT-N5110
So is this project starting or has it begun?
Or how is the process going?
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I might start it this week, but theres a few things im not sure on
If bricked, how would I unbrick it? I'm experienced with HTC's and somewhat with Nexus, but not samsung at all
Would there even be any demand? I mean it won't support the S-Pen and all, and development is relatively slow as it is
My guess is yoou would just use Odin to reflash your device. And I know personally this is something I would back and be willing to test should you need someone.
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My guess is yoou would just use Odin to reflash your device. And I know personally this is something I would back and be willing to test should you need someone.
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wow to have a fully capable linux operating system working on our note 8 would be great!! but are there any apps like onenote from microsoft available for linux yet???
So I guess this is just a lost hope huh?
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Any news about this port? Now I try the news nightly cm10.2 and work fine.
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wow to have a fully capable linux operating system working on our note 8 would be great!! but are there any apps like onenote from microsoft available for linux yet???
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From what I know, Ubuntu Touch is just cyanogenmod with an Ubuntu UI. It is no more a full linux OS than Android, and in fact, both run on the Linux kernel and Ubuntu is basically a modified version of Android. I really don't understand why people are having wet dreams over the prospect of running Ubuntu Touch on their tablets. You're getting nothing in return except a different look and design of the OS and probably no access to Google Play. Oh, and all the bugs associated with CyanogenMod, and none of the functionality that is unique to the Note 8. I am all for giving people options, but Ubuntu Touch seems like the most unnecessary development to hit Android devices to date.
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From what I know, Ubuntu Touch is just cyanogenmod with an Ubuntu UI. It is no more a full linux OS than Android, and in fact, both run on the Linux kernel and Ubuntu is basically a modified version of Android. I really don't understand why people are having wet dreams over the prospect of running Ubuntu Touch on their tablets. You're getting nothing in return except a different look and design of the OS and probably no access to Google Play. Oh, and all the bugs associated with CyanogenMod, and none of the functionality that is unique to the Note 8. I am all for giving people options, but Ubuntu Touch seems like the most unnecessary development to hit Android devices to date.
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I may be wrong bjt im oretty sure that you actually have full access to the ubuntu software center for apps and such.
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I may be wrong bjt im oretty sure that you actually have full access to the ubuntu software center for apps and such.
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I would say you're wrong only because Ubuntu and Ubuntu touch are designed for different architectures (x86 vs ARM). This is no different than windows 8 vs windows RT in that you can't share apps between the 2 systems. Point is, if an application such as OpenOffice is not reengineered to run on ARM, it's not going to run on Ubuntu Touch. Ubuntu Touch is built on top of Android, and while it may have access to the ubuntu software center, it's still not going to have the apps to make it worthwhile unless it also can access google play. And I doubt that it will. But if I am wrong, please correct me.
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I would say you're wrong only because Ubuntu and Ubuntu touch are designed for different architectures (x86 vs ARM). This is no different than windows 8 vs windows RT in that you can't share apps between the 2 systems. Point is, if an application such as OpenOffice is not reengineered to run on ARM, it's not going to run on Ubuntu Touch. Ubuntu Touch is built on top of Android, and while it may have access to the ubuntu software center, it's still not going to have the apps to make it worthwhile unless it also can access google play. And I doubt that it will. But if I am wrong, please correct me.
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In a sense yes, but just like any new operating system, the app market will start out slow and as more interest grows, people are going to develop more and more apps for the market.
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In a sense yes, but just like any new operating system, the app market will start out slow and as more interest grows, people are going to develop more and more apps for the market.
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You are assuming that interest is actually going to grow, and I can probably think of more new systems that are failing or have failed, than succeeded. And again, Ubuntu Touch is a port of Android with a questionable future. It brings nothing new in terms of the actual operating system to the table, and if a current dev who is making programs for Linux is not making similar programs for Android now, what would make them start coding for Ubuntu Touch? Likewise, why would a current Android dev start porting their apps to Ubuntu when they have a massive user base on iOS and Android? Look at BB and Windows Phone, which are actually very good, polished systems and not half-ass ports, and see how small their app ecosystems are.
But ask yourself this question: are you going to give up Android 4.2.2 on your Note for a half-ass port of Ubuntu Touch (pretty much all ports of CM are half-ass), lose the functionality of the S-Pen, and lose access to Google Play along with all of apps that make Android something more than just a device to browse the web? Because that's pretty much what you will end up with as it stands now. I will not discount the possibility that Ubuntu Touch will carve itself a niche market somewhere, but even if you can sideload Android apks, it is far more effort than most people will be willing to put up with.
I know this is an OLD thread, but I want to correct the people saying the x86/ARM difference means that software won't run on Ubuntu Touch. This is completely false. Ubuntu maintains repositories for all manners of architectures, including ARM. ALL OSS applications with full source will run under ARM (you can even do this on a Chromebook, which is amazingly nice.) as long as they have no proprietary binaries. This means that if you can download the source code, it can be compiled to work on ARM, and even done on the fly with apt.

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