My Note 2 stopped working on Friday night and wouldn't turn on. A bit of searching on here and I appear to have got me Sudden Death Syndrome - I thought that was a thing of the past. So, it's going to the service centre later but this weekend I got the chance to try my 10.1 as my only mobile device.
This is something I had given thought to anyway and I thought it would be fine. This wasn't to be the case. I found that wondering around doing normal day-to-day activities was not conducive to having a tablet with me at all times. I don't always carry a bag so a pocketable device is still important.
I gave in and bought a "disposable" £30 phone on Sunday while passing CPW (a Samsung, coincidentally, as the equiv Nokia was £10 more).
It was an interesting way to find out two devices will be required
Thanks for the blog post.
I read it and thoroughly enjoyed it.
It makes me think that you have potential in running a social blogging network, and perhaps be the boss of a profitable blogging enterprise.
Perhaps you can float on an exchange one day and we can all invest in your company.
I'm using GV (which lets me have one outgoing number on all my Telephony-capable devices) and will sometimes just use the phone (usually in Speaker mode) when I need to make a quick call. Works fine. Get a BT headset and you could get away with not having a "real" phone for a while.
try TextPlus
I downloaded it when my phone died. Worked great as a temp phone.
Same here been using gv for a while now and haven't used my phone since.. I'm thinking about getting it turned off permanently since I'm Always around wifi or a hotspot..plus I don't talk on the phone.. Just text and internet 90% of the time
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Forget the bt headset, go the bt stylus for that extra geeky look... I should know, I have one...
Hey guys. Im confused. I use gv number as my regular number. How would I use it on my 10.1? From my understanding of gv, it needs to be routed to another number or your gmail address (which I have obitalk for landline using this feature) Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1? Im using talkatone for that but its glitchy. Thanks.
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Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1?
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I couldn't tell ya- I have an 8000, which has a GSM radio in it and can get/make phone calls (and texts), so when I make an outgoing GV call, it uses the phone built into the Note (and it shows up as my GV number vs. the random number the SIM I use in it has).
I have no idea how Internet calling is done via GV (but I know some people do it).
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Hey guys. Im confused. I use gv number as my regular number. How would I use it on my 10.1? From my understanding of gv, it needs to be routed to another number or your gmail address (which I have obitalk for landline using this feature) Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1? Im using talkatone for that but its glitchy. Thanks.
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The simplest option is groove ip, the progran registers to your gv account. The developer bought a note and worked diligently to address a bug created in the JB update and the program works flawlessly now. Here's a link to the thread where the developer posted a link to the updated app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107867&page=5
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Hey guys. Im confused. I use gv number as my regular number. How would I use it on my 10.1? From my understanding of gv, it needs to be routed to another number or your gmail address (which I have obitalk for landline using this feature) Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1? Im using talkatone for that but its glitchy. Thanks.
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Use google voice app too.. It allows text messaging unlike groove ip...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.googlevoice
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I have google voice account set up to use my cell phone number on my tablet... THen have Grove IP tou use my google voice accounts phone number.. so my cell phone number is not given out but calls are routed thru that number .. Makes call quality better.. Considering getting rid of my home phone and using google voice via grove ip for home phone service..
Anyone know a Good Internet faxing app or site that keeps my stuff MY STUFF and does not spam the fax numbers you send too.. ??
Good luck all
Workaround for UK users
If you are in the UK and are a BT customer with a landline you can use their app BT SmartTalk:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bt.voiceapps.homeaway
I have been using this on my Samsung Galaxy Camera to make calls and it works surprisingly well as long as you are in a WiFi hotspot somewhere. It's limited to outgoing calls only but it's a workaround if your mobile phone dies in some way.
You can use it on more than one device but you can only attach it to your one BT account. It's very easy to setup.
Kind of a strange thread. This is what OP originally said that started the discussion.
"...this weekend I got the chance to try my 10.1 as my only mobile device."
Assuming OP has a N8000 it is a phone. And the dialer is a multiview app so you can use the phone feature while still doing other things on the Note like jotting down notes or referencing a document without toggling between apps. Obviously, due to the Note's size, you're not going to hold it up to your ear. You can use it as a speaker phone or with a BT headset including the HM5100 BT S Pen. Used that way it's as valid as any other device as a phone and S Voice over BT is incredibly helpful. I'll sometimes forward calls and MMS from my phone to my Note so I only have to carry one device. Unlike OP, I tend to take my Note pretty much everywhere and the Book Cover case adds very little size or weight and functions well as a stand or prop for using the on-screen keyboard. I probably could use the Note as dedicated phone but a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet and each have strengths and weaknesses.
As for VoIP calling, the Note's no different than any other Wi-Fi enabled mobile device and all can be used with a variety of apps for voice calls and MMS. The only difference, as noted above, the Note's form factor makes it less than ideal as a primary communication device.
One advantage of the Note either in 3G form or using VoIP is its battery life compared to a phone that typically has a battery 2/3 smaller. That and the two forward facing speakers make it a great speaker phone. So in the end it all comes down to people's view on carrying something as large as the Note around to use as a communication device. Functionally it’s as good as anything else out there.
just pack a bigger purse and bluetooth .
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Kind of a strange thread. This is what OP originally said that started the discussion.
"...this weekend I got the chance to try my 10.1 as my only mobile device."
Assuming OP has a N8000 it is a phone. And the dialer is a multiview app so you can use the phone feature while still doing other things on the Note like jotting down notes or referencing a document without toggling between apps. Obviously, due to the Note's size, you're not going to hold it up to your ear. You can use it as a speaker phone or with a BT headset including the HM5100 BT S Pen. Used that way it's as valid as any other device as a phone and S Voice over BT is incredibly helpful. I'll sometimes forward calls and MMS from my phone to my Note so I only have to carry one device. Unlike OP, I tend to take my Note pretty much everywhere and the Book Cover case adds very little size or weight and functions well as a stand or prop for using the on-screen keyboard. I probably could use the Note as dedicated phone but a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet and each have strengths and weaknesses.
As for VoIP calling, the Note's no different than any other Wi-Fi enabled mobile device and all can be used with a variety of apps for voice calls and MMS. The only difference, as noted above, the Note's form factor makes it less than ideal as a primary communication device.
One advantage of the Note either in 3G form or using VoIP is its battery life compared to a phone that typically has a battery 2/3 smaller. That and the two forward facing speakers make it a great speaker phone. So in the end it all comes down to people's view on carrying something as large as the Note around to use as a communication device. Functionally it’s as good as anything else out there.
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This is so true.. use a bluetooth device and keep the tablet in my Purse.. is how i use my nexus 7 and could do the same with 10 in just pack a slightly bigger purse ..
That was sort of my point. When the N8000 is my tablet and my phone is in my pocket I don't notice. When I have to, effectively, carry the tablet everywhere not having a pocketable phone it imposes limitations on me that I wasn't aware of. Bluetooth range is well and good - I had my old Jawbone and the car handsfree kits too - but if you are just quickly popping out of the house or you want to just wander off with no baggage, literally, then the 10.1 is just too big.
90% of the time I have both devices within reach but it's that 10% that showed me that my lifestyle (for want of a better word) doesn't quite allow me to use only the 10.1 as my sole mobile device.
I am waiting for the HM-5100 to be an official UK device so the price drops and it will be cute, but my original plan to stop using the phone and use just the tablet got a very sudden reality check (for me - you are all different, of course).
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When I have to ... carry the tablet everywhere ...
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Wait- there's people who don't?! :cyclops:
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Does it exist on tis tab?
how about on
http://www.sierrawireless.com/Newsr...Wireless_4G_LTE_Mobile_Broadband_Network.aspx
which may be the card going in the xoom?
Lastly if the hardware exists on an lte device, should it be possible to make calls work by switching the sim card with a lte phone sim?
I think that if you would like to place phone calls with your Xoom using the cell radio its possible to find a way. Verizon might not be happy with it.
However, Its the hard way to place calls.
Sigh up with a VoIP provider, and use a SIP Client.
I like a provider named Vitelity. You can port your number to them if you would like. They are very inexpensive, and very reliable. (or use Skype, or anyone else.)
Then, use a SIP dialer and a Bluetooth headset on your Xoom. I am doing just that using Verizon 3g and it works great.
I have signed up for skype and have a number, but skype seems to have no interest in real BT support, neither does Google. If I could force Skype to use the mic on a BT< I could likely live with it, but AFAIK that is not possible.
This all be in another forum, however I am using CSIPSimple and it supports my plantronic BT voyager 510, (on Honeycomb)
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/voyager-510&skuId=sku4610016
And, CSIPSimple opens the default Android Dialer (Which is in Honeycomb) to send and receive calls.
Would you mind testing it to be sure?
If so, place a call, leave your pad and walk like 15 feet and see if you are still heard.
Please don't be offended, I have just had WAY to many people say the same thing as you, only to find out A2DP let them hear, and they were using the tab mic without knowing it.
Hmmm.. I will check later tonight. That is a good question.
Thanks young... anyone else use csip too?
The hardware is capable, the problem is with the provisioning. Verizon adds feature codes to block voice and SMS on their tablet data plans.
what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?
Morkai Almandragon said:
what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?
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There is no sim to switch.
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So then? Any tablet outside of the us ( or Verizon) is able
To standard phonecalls?
I'm in the uk and I was planning to buy the 3g version but if I still have to carry a phone to txt or call, i'll choose the WiFi one, save 200 bucks, and tether with my nexus when needed although I'm not very happy with the idea of carrying multiple devices...
Btw , 3g version has been priced in.....600 pounds! What are they playing at? If I finally choose wifionly I'll buy for sure in the US, screw carphone and pcworld..
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I think you are asking a question that no one can answer at the moment.
LTE does use a SIM card, but, NO devices are currently available on Verizon's LTE network yet, so no one knows what happens if you switch LTE SIM cards between devices.
I also think that LTE devices use a VoIP type of voice connection, something different then how voice is done on CDMA. This new type of connection allows data and Voice to operate at the same time. This functionality, this Software dialer stack would need to be included in Honeycomb, which is not a phone Android distribution.
Young dud you test the bluetooth mic with csip?
Yes. I I have found is that I do have two way audio, all on the Bluetooth headset using csip, I walked around my house, leaving the Xoom several rooms away.
While in WiFi, Bluetooth audio was sketchy at best. For most calls, I could not get the headset in engage for the call. While in the call I would press Bluetooth on the dialer, and nothing would happen, or the audio would cut in and out, before engaging, or a few times I would have to press 'Speaker", then Bluetooth, then Speaker again before it would engage. When it would engage in WiFi I did have two way audio.
While in 3G, with WiFi Off, the connection with Bluetooth was perfect every time. No issues. The call call quality overall was a bit less then with WiFi, however Bluetooth worked correctly.
UPDATE: I just had a bad Bluetooth connection issue on 3G. So, it is spotty. It might be because CSip uses the default Android dialer which might be incomplete in some way on Honeycomb.
I should try another SIP app. But Bluetooth does have two way audio when I can get it to connect.
How can we get this badboy working with wifi calling, im well aware of tmobiles IMS service and how difficult it will be ( nothings impossible with XDA ) to get Tmobiles wifi calling working on this phone .. but im sure that some people like myself really depend on it !! Socal area sucks Id be willing to put 30$ towards the bounty to get this started .. anyone else interested ?
Try putting it in 2g mode for better signal
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Try putting it in 2g mode for better signal
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It doesnt make a difference, and its a known issue in this area that all the carriers suck
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It doesnt make a difference, and its a known issue in this area that all the carriers suck
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I too would be willing to donate to this cause. However, I've been testing with GrooveIP over Wifi, and it works extremely well. Call quality is excellent and you can use it for incoming and outgoing calls without using your plan minutes. I'm using the $5 pro version which integrates with the native dialer, so you makes calls just like you would normally. I know this isn't the same thing as T-Mobile's Wifi calling, but it's a good solution nonetheless.
Best chances of it happening will be when opitmus g with JB is released by T-Mobile. Need system dump with rils, maybe some libs and maybe an apk will be in there. That's what we had to do with the G2 and many older devices when ICS came out. But might be a few months before u see anything. I heard rumors T-Mobile are setting up SIP support but its just rumors
I second the endorsement of GrooVe IP. I don't have my N4 yet (caught in Play Store limbo, like so many others), but in anticipation I've been testing GrooVe IP lightly on my LG G2x and have found it to be very good, with audio quality noticeably better than wifi calling.
sipdroid with a free pbxes account. disable all codecs except speex. excellent.
I really wish google would improve the native sip client...
i'm in for $30 for nexus 4 wifi calling. a lack of wifi calling is only thing holding me back from getting a nexus 4. I have zero tmobile signal inside my house.. (okay, a little at one corner, but not where my home office is.. )
I'd love to get a nexus 4.. but only if it has wifi calling.. even if it is a terrible cm7/gb2.3 hack to get it working.. Obviously, IMS calling would be best.. but as long as it works..
I use groove Ip for my wifi calling. I fwd all my calls to my phone anyway since google voice is my main number, when I get home and connect wifi, groove IP takes over and I receive calls on my phone anyway.
I haven't had any issues using this method on the nexus 4.
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I use groove Ip for my wifi calling. I fwd all my calls to my phone anyway since google voice is my main number, when I get home and connect wifi, groove IP takes over and I receive calls on my phone anyway.
I haven't had any issues using this method on the nexus 4.
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Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
It might be possible if the T-Mobile version of the LG Optimus phones with the same hardware have it. Assuming someone can hack it together, and the differences in OS aren't a show stopper.
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Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
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My testing has mostly been by calling my other voicemail line and listening to the recording, so it's only been short segments, but I haven't detected any echoes or dropouts so far.
I've made hour long calls to landline and mobiles with absolutely no drops or issues. In fact the quality is better than what I experienced on vzw. I would say it is on par with my FiOS landline phone. It will of course depend on the quality of your WiFi connection, particularly jitter and latency.
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i'm in for $30 for nexus 4 wifi calling. a lack of wifi calling is only thing holding me back from getting a nexus 4. I have zero tmobile signal inside my house.. (okay, a little at one corner, but not where my home office is.. )
I'd love to get a nexus 4.. but only if it has wifi calling.. even if it is a terrible cm7/gb2.3 hack to get it working.. Obviously, IMS calling would be best.. but as long as it works..
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try giving T-mobile a call, they might give you a cell booster
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Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
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I had echoing when I first used it, but solved it by enabling the basic echo canceller. It send a beep when the call connects then auto magically adjust the device for echoes.
Haven't had a problem since.
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I had echoing when I first used it, but solved it by enabling the basic echo canceller. It send a beep when the call connects then auto magically adjust the device for echoes.
Haven't had a problem since.
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Yes, I forgot to mention that I had enabled the basic echo canceling as well. Seems to work fine in my testing.
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Yes, I forgot to mention that I had enabled the basic echo canceling as well. Seems to work fine in my testing.
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I didn't realize google voice costs $20 to port my number to them. PLus the $5 for GrooVe IP, I'm going to be into this for $25, but at least I should be able to use my phone in my house again.
Has anyone tried Bobsled for this?
u are not alone in this hunt... good news is... 2013 is a good year for voip.
so first off all let me just tell u, ive been hunting for a good FREE VOIP, 4 wayyy to frigging long.
but i have finally got the perfect COMBO of apps that get the job done, and might i add quite well too!
first go set up ur google voice account and get u a free number....
download google voice.... pray ur phone has had service at one point or another....and google acceepts ur phone to allow u to use google voice (google voice is a pain in the ass to get it to register sometimes)...for some reason they want only people with active service to use their service... which makes no sense at all.....but... sometimes those free texting apps that give u 10 FREE minutes calling will do it....
then go download gv+ or mo+ (same friggin thing_ same devoloper) - seems like when one is acting up i can uninstall it and download the other and it will work perfectly for about 2 months then i gota switch back to the other again... its odd...
but i can call anywhere in america for free.... no questions asked... as long as i download voice and install it also. idk
i actually use voice for all my texting and then when i wana call sum1 then i use the mo+ app. and it works flawlessly. no weird numbers, no grainy calls, no echo... its wonderful!
This topic was brought up on Leo Laporte The Tech Guy
http://techguylabs.com/episodes/929/can-tablets-be-used-phones
Have research Samsung tablet manuals and only 3G/4G models but does not say that you can dial.
Note 10.1 3g version you can make and receive phone calls... Apparently the galaxy tab 10.1 series also can but the dialler is hidden and you need to patch the system to get it...
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" - 1st tab - can also make and receive calls, but then it was basically an oversized Galaxy S..
Note 10.1 n8000 can make calls
Make calls on any tablet with groove ip, if u have a Google voice account.
Assuming most people would have their cell phones with them when using their tablets why would anyone want to make a phone call with their tablet?
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Good in a pinch when you don't or the battery dies... Also good so you are carrying 1 device instead of 2.....
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Assuming most people would have their cell phones with them when using their tablets why would anyone want to make a phone call with their tablet?
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Because u can..
I don't keep my phone on me in the house. Usually it's on the table by the front door. I can hear it ring but it almost always goes to voice mail before I can get to it. It would be nice to be able to answer it with my tablet, which I do carry around all the time.
With google voice #, you can use the note 10.1 with grooveip or talkatone as esincho etated. I use talkatone personally, send txt etc. Makes it great when phone is in other room or out of reach. Also sometimes my phone does drop signal so very convenient for that.
The Tab 7.7 3G can also make calls. Size is much more portable, too.
Model is P6800.
Over here in Australia where wifi access points (public and/or free) are VERY rare.... Its all ggod that you can use your wifi to make and receive calls but a bit embarrassing when you're out on a lonely road with no wifi and you find you need a phone. At this point I'm gonna say that a wifi call enabled tablet is as useless as tits on a boar pig....
As such I don't call any wifi only tab, phone capable because when you need it most, rest assured there will be no wifi available....
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Hello... I'm new here. I bought the new n8020 LTE (France). I saw that we can make calls with this tablet but my operator SFR have blocked this function. I know i can use SFR Libertalk or CsipSimple app but i really want to make this tablet as a phone. Any suggestion? I'm already rooted and have already test a lot of firmwares. thx
Hello all. Im pretty excited about my nexus 7 lte so i figured i would help grow this currently small section on it. Having verizon and knowing how people have complained about not being able to activate their tablet on it, I came up with a pretty good way to swap your sim card into it without missing phone calls. I made a youtube video about it but I will also explain it briefly here.
you tube (dot) com (forwardslash) watch?v=GFkIR1elWug
Here are the apps you need on your phone:
Google voice
simple call forwarding (optional but the included widget makes life so much easier)
The apps needed for your tablet:
GrooveIP (or talkatone, I have both but prefer grooveIP) {Check Autostart in the App settings}
RFRSH- Refresh for Android (optional, but the autostart makes the dialer your first screen if you want to make a call)
(Root and bootloader unlocking NOT needed on either)
Basically, you set up google voice on your phone with a number.
then you set up simple call forwarding by selecting your carrier and the google voice number.
add the included widget to your homescreen and click on it to toggle it on.
the widget will place a brief call resulting in all mobile calls being forwarded to your google voice number.
An icon will show in the top left corner reminding you that call forwarding is on. You can power off your phone.
Remove microsim from phone and place into sim tray of nexus 7 using included sim tray key.
Power on tablet.
Set up grooveIP to use your googlevoice number to make calls. Try calling your house to verify it is working. It will also handle
text messages but they are only from your google voice number. {Use Verizon Messages app on your tablet to send sms.}
(Using the latest cyanogenmod builds on your phone include voice+ which allows you to text through any app with your google voice number.
This is a good incentive to ditch your text messaging plan and use google voice for all your texting anyway.)
Launch refresh for android. In the launcher tab, add grooveIP to the list so it autostarts at every boot up.
Reboot your tablet to verify it worked. It might take a few seconds but it should automatically load grooveip. This ensures you
never miss a call since call forwarding is on and you never forget to load the app since it autostarts.
To deactivate when youre done with your tablet-
Power off tablet. remove microsim and place in phone.
Power on phone. Once booted up, click on simple call forwarding widget to toggle of call forwarding.
It will place a brief call to turn off call forwading. Once it is off, you are back to normal!
I hope this has helped a few people. It works great so far. Let me know if you have a better way to do it. I am still working on the SMS part of it.:laugh:
~sigh~ dude really?
There's so much wrong with this post that its impressive.
1-No you do not need to use RFRSH to make GrooveIP auto-start, you just have to set GrooveIP to autostart in its settings
2-What does activating a SIM in a phone have to do with anything?
3-Using a Verizon phone SIM card means you're using a "phone" plan as opposed to a data only plan. This will cost a lot more money and is forbidden by the Verizon terms of use in the contract you signed when you got your phone plan. Gotta love wasting moneys!
4-None of this Google Voice-related information is new and none of it is specific to the Nexus 7 in any capacity.
5-This is a DEVELOPER forum and, as it explains at the top of the forum, not a place for you to be posting this sort of thing, especially when this is literally your first XDA post, and in the first paragraph of said post you ask people to go check out your YouTube page.
Maybe go troll for traffic somewhere else?
Well, I think he is just very proud that he got it working.
But...there is a simpler way.
Verizon provides free call forwarding at this web page:
https://wbillpay.verizonwireless.com/vzw/secure/services/CallForward.action
You can forward only if no answer, or forward immediately.
I use forward if no answer, and my tapatalk app starts ringing on the 4th or 5th ring.
Verizon also provides a free texting app which can be used on PC or tablets.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&hl=en
Once it is setup you can even power off your phone and still send and receive texts from PC or tablet.
So, I don't need to make a uTube video of it.
And yes, this probably belongs in the General forum.
HowardZ said:
Well, I think he is just very proud that he got it working.
But...there is a simpler way.
Verizon provides free call forwarding at this web page:
https://wbillpay.verizonwireless.com/vzw/secure/services/CallForward.action
You can forward only if no answer, or forward immediately.
I use forward if no answer, and my tapatalk app starts ringing on the 4th or 5th ring.
Verizon also provides a free texting app which can be used on PC or tablets.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&hl=en
Once it is setup you can even power off your phone and still send and receive texts from PC or tablet.
So, I don't need to make a uTube video of it.
And yes, this probably belongs in the General forum.
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correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't verizon charge like $0.10 per minute per forwarded call regardless whether it's nights and weekend or the minutes or you have in your plan?
diablofreak said:
correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't verizon charge like $0.10 per minute per forwarded call regardless whether it's nights and weekend or the minutes or you have in your plan?
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http://support.verizonwireless.com/support/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html
Call Forwarding is automatically included with new activations, and there are no subscription fees for the service. However, airtime charges apply to all forwarded calls according to your calling plan, even when forwarding to a landline.
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I do not think there is any method of forwarding calls from Verizon without it using your plan's minutes. So it is best to tell people your google voice telephone number, and use tapatalk/grooveIP on both phone and tablet.
Regards
P. S. Call forwarding during nights and weekends
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/794117
http://www.howardforums.com/printthread.php?t=172532&styleid=46
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~sigh~ dude really?
There's so much wrong with this post that its impressive.
1-No you do not need to use RFRSH to make GrooveIP auto-start, you just have to set GrooveIP to autostart in its settings
2-What does activating a SIM in a phone have to do with anything?
3-Using a Verizon phone SIM card means you're using a "phone" plan as opposed to a data only plan. This will cost a lot more money and is forbidden by the Verizon terms of use in the contract you signed when you got your phone plan. Gotta love wasting moneys!
4-None of this Google Voice-related information is new and none of it is specific to the Nexus 7 in any capacity.
5-This is a DEVELOPER forum and, as it explains at the top of the forum, not a place for you to be posting this sort of thing, especially when this is literally your first XDA post, and in the first paragraph of said post you ask people to go check out your YouTube page.
Maybe go troll for traffic somewhere else?
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~sigh~ You probably felt the same way I felt after reading your post- surprised and annoyed.
I'm glad you are impressed. It was my first post, after all.
1- You are correct. I bought GrooveIP a long time ago and the version either did not have the autostart option or I missed it. Either way, you did provide this shred of beneficial information in your post. For that I thanK YOU.
2- Verizon will NOT allow you to activate the Nexus 7 LTE on their network even though it works fine. I'd post a youtube link with more information, but you might mistake it for trolling so I'll just tell you to GOOGLE it.
3- If you want to whine about the terms of Verizon's contract then do it somewhere else because you're preaching to deaf ears. This is a forum for people to use rooting and roms and tethering and plenty of other things Verizon doesn't want us to do yet here we are exploring options and learning new things. Those of us grandfathered on the unlimited data plan are not wasting money- this is who benefits from this. I guess you weren't that lucky. Don't worry, its ok.
4- I never said nor implied the Goole Voice information is new. When you think of it, just about everything on the web is recycled. This IS specific to the Nexus 7 LTE. Try to find another tablet that works on Verizon's LTE network that they WILL NOT let you activate. There are no others. This is a solution to help people who bought the tablet for Verizon and can't use it.
5- I did not see what you are mentioning at the top of the forum but I did find the forum rules. Here is Rule 2.3 for YOU
"2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing which does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is not acceptable. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner." If a moderator could kindly move this thread to the General section, I'd appreciate it.
I never asked anyone to check out my youtube video. I mentioned that I made a video. People can check it out for clarification if they want to.
I wrote my intentions in the beginning- "i would help grow this currently small section". This is not trolling.
I used to belong to a different forum for a few years until I got fed up when it became a bloodbath of the veterans picking on the newbies. See Rule 2.3 again, dude.
(HowardZ, you have been thanked.)
Linked your link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFkIR1elWug
Good stuff. Thanks for the information. I've always wanted to dabble with GrooveIP and my Google Voice number. I have a good setup now, but it would be cool to play around to see if I could benefit from any of it.
Ok, the thread has been moved to the proper section. I also updated the Youtube video to explain how to autostart GrooveIP in its settings tab and to use Verizon Messages app to send sms on your tablet.
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Ok, the thread has been moved to the proper section. I also updated the Youtube video to explain how to autostart GrooveIP in its settings tab and to use Verizon Messages app to send sms on your tablet.
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I have been finding that whether I use GrooveIP (paid version) or Talkatone (free version), that sometimes the tablet does not receive incoming calls, and the calls instead go to Google Voice voice-mail.
I have moved the microSIM card back to my phone, because I do not want to miss calls.
Reliability is more important.
So, currently I keep the SIM in my Samsung Galaxy S4 running Cyanogenmod with WiFi teather turned ON all the time. Then on my tablet (stock rooted) I use the "WIFI Prioritizer" free app so that the tablet will only auto connect to the S4 Wifi hotspot as the last resort - the last choice among all other WiFi hotspots stored in the phone. So I carry the S4 in a holster on my hip and will only use it for phone calls. For texts I use the Verizon messaging app on the tablet, and of course email and anything for the internet looks much better on the tablet.
I'd prefer to do everything on the Nexus 7 LTE and leave the phone powered off. But any VOIP solution must answer all phone calls - it needs to be rock solid reliable.
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I have been finding that whether I use GrooveIP (paid version) or Talkatone (free version), that sometimes the tablet does not receive incoming calls, and the calls instead go to Google Voice voice-mail.
I have moved the microSIM card back to my phone, because I do not want to miss calls.
Reliability is more important.
So, currently I keep the SIM in my Samsung Galaxy S4 running Cyanogenmod with WiFi teather turned ON all the time. Then on my tablet (stock rooted) I use the "WIFI Prioritizer" free app so that the tablet will only auto connect to the S4 Wifi hotspot as the last resort - the last choice among all other WiFi hotspots stored in the phone. So I carry the S4 in a holster on my hip and will only use it for phone calls. For texts I use the Verizon messaging app on the tablet, and of course email and anything for the internet looks much better on the tablet.
I'd prefer to do everything on the Nexus 7 LTE and leave the phone powered off. But any VOIP solution must answer all phone calls - it needs to be rock solid reliable.
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How is your battery after leaving wifi tether on all the time? Does tasker have a profile to use it only at certain times? i guess it must be a lot better than mine- the galaxy nexus i just replaced ran out of juice too quickly for that to be an option. With my new moto x, that may be an option i will try, especially since they use different size sim cards- need adapter.
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How is your battery after leaving wifi tether on all the time? Does tasker have a profile to use it only at certain times? i guess it must be a lot better than mine- the galaxy nexus i just replaced ran out of juice too quickly for that to be an option. With my new moto x, that may be an option i will try, especially since they use different size sim cards- need adapter.
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Short answer: 5% to 10% per hour battery consumption on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (verizon) using the latest Cyanogenmod 10.2
The phone consumed 18% battery for the last 3 hours 7 minutes. However the entire time I have been in a WiFi area, so the N7LTE is not WiFi connected to the phone. The phone's WiFi hotspot is ON, but I suspect its LTE radio will use more battery power if it actually has data to transmit on behalf of the tablet.
I do not use Tasker.
It is nice that the N7LTE tablet and my Samsung Galaxy S4 (verizon) use the same size SIM card.
However, you should consider the following:
1. The vast majority of the time I am in a WiFi area. This means the N7LTE tablet is not WiFi connected to the phone. This is assured by using the free "WiFi Prioritizer" app. Minimizing use of the phone's Wifi hotspot assures lower plan data usage (I do not have unlimited data).
2. The phone is only touched for phone calls, so at some point I think it goes to deep sleep which reduces battery usage. Or perhaps Wifi Hotspot being on will not allow it to go to sleep?
3. Texts are handled by the free Verizon Messaging app running on the tablet - because all apps look and operate nicer on a tablet.
4. Phone is only used for actual voice cell phone calls.
There are other alternatives I can use, but they will modestly increase the monthly costs. For example I can move the phone's verizon microSIM card back into the N7LTE and:
1. Pay Skype $5 per month for a SKYPE phone number and $3 per month for unlimited calling to USA real phone numbers. Skype has a reputation of working very well - unlike google voice. This is back to carrying around only the N7LTE tablet, but paying for Skype because Google Voice is not reliable for me. OR,
2. Activate one of my old verizon dumb-phones for $10 per month and use that for actual phone calls. In this scenario the tablet gets its DATA via the verizon microSIM card inside it via LTE. A dumb phone is much smaller and lighter than a smart phone, and the battery charge lasts much much longer.
Is there a way to wifi text from a rooted Verizon phone and keep your normal phone number?
there was another member asking this question in another thread that was long and i cant remember where it was located but the short answer is no. there are options like Google Voice and other messaging apps that will easily work with Wifi only reception but not the phone app. i know Tmob offers this function but Verizon does not yet.
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there was another member asking this question in another thread that was long and i cant remember where it was located but the short answer is no. there are options like Google Voice and other messaging apps that will easily work with Wifi only reception but not the phone app. i know Tmob offers this function but Verizon does not yet.
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Thats kind of what i thought. The reception on the note 3 is no where near as good as my droid razr. My business is in a fairly weak cell area and i normally can't get a text to send from my normal indoor spot with my note. People can be sitting right next me with their other brand phones and send and receive text any time they want.
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Thats kind of what i thought. The reception on the note 3 is no where near as good as my droid razr. My business is in a fairly weak cell area and i normally can't get a text to send from my normal indoor spot with my note. People can be sitting right next me with their other brand phones and send and receive text any time they want.
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i have had the complete line of DROID phones from Motorola since the first DROID for Verizon and stopping with the Ultra and agree they have and have always had the best radio's for reception but i have not found any issues with my N3 that didnt match my Moto phones.
I also find GV texting to be great and allows me to receive and respond from my phone, tablet, and laptop which leaves more options than phone reception.
good luck
I wish!!!!! I really wish! I had a problem with my Verizon account one time where I lost all 3G access - and it wasn't my phone's fault. But funny enough, I could receive SMS but I couldn't receive MMS - regardless of connection to WiFi or not. After a week of talking to Verizon tiered support, I finally got to the highest support (some guy in the USA) who I was able to talk to. MMS goes through 3g and there's no changing how that works no matter what you do. I had always thought MMS went through WiFi.
Anyway, turns out someone had accidentally turned off 3g access on my account (iPhone 4s at the time). Soon as this guy figured it out, he flipped a switch and I started getting 3g again, lol.
Either way, I'm a big fan of iMessage, WhatsApp (was a big fan), Hangouts, and Telegram means of communication. They're 5x faster, usually more reliable, and cost $0 to use - and yes, they work on WiFi. Hard to get everyone I know to use one means though... so I end up doing a fair bit of texting even today.
I think the Verizon messaging app actually works on Wifi. I can be in a dead zone and still receive sms and mms with wifi connected.
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I think the Verizon messaging app actually works on Wifi. I can be in a dead zone and still receive sms and mms with wifi connected.
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The Verizon messaging app sends SMS/MMS? I thought it was a Google Hangout type thing. Cool
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Is there a way to wifi text from a rooted Verizon phone and keep your normal phone number?
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I use the GV Phone app when traveling outside of the US. You need a Google Voice number if you want to call real phones and not just app-to-app (like Groove IP or many other chat-based apps). Talkatone is another app which integrates with Google Voice, but I haven't had any luck with it.
Voice calling with GV Phone works pretty well if you keep one thing in mind...WiFi quality matters. Low WiFi signal or a congested network will increase latency and jitter to the point that calls will drop/fragment/stutter. Conversely, with a good quality WiFi signal you can talk for free from anywhere!
I cant post a link...check Google Play for GV Phone.
I use the Google voice app for texting and calls. I gave my Google voice number to everyone and as far as they know, it is my only number now.
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I use the Google voice app for texting and calls. I gave my Google voice number to everyone and as far as they know, it is my only number now.
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I did this too, and still do for the most part --- just really sucks that I can't get MMS with Google Voice. If I could get MMS with Google Voice - I'd be giving this number out to everyone - including Family. But I'm seeing rumors of Google Voice saying something about finally offering MMS at the start of next year.
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I did this too, and still do for the most part --- just really sucks that I can't get MMS with Google Voice. If I could get MMS with Google Voice - I'd be giving this number out to everyone - including Family. But I'm seeing rumors of Google Voice saying something about finally offering MMS at the start of next year.
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I'm curious to see if they ever fully integrate voice and hangouts. I wonder if the voice app will keep voicemail/phone calls and hangouts takes over SMS/mms or if they are going to cram it all into one app.
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