telephony hardware - Xoom General

Does it exist on tis tab?
how about on
http://www.sierrawireless.com/Newsr...Wireless_4G_LTE_Mobile_Broadband_Network.aspx
which may be the card going in the xoom?
Lastly if the hardware exists on an lte device, should it be possible to make calls work by switching the sim card with a lte phone sim?

I think that if you would like to place phone calls with your Xoom using the cell radio its possible to find a way. Verizon might not be happy with it.
However, Its the hard way to place calls.
Sigh up with a VoIP provider, and use a SIP Client.
I like a provider named Vitelity. You can port your number to them if you would like. They are very inexpensive, and very reliable. (or use Skype, or anyone else.)
Then, use a SIP dialer and a Bluetooth headset on your Xoom. I am doing just that using Verizon 3g and it works great.

I have signed up for skype and have a number, but skype seems to have no interest in real BT support, neither does Google. If I could force Skype to use the mic on a BT< I could likely live with it, but AFAIK that is not possible.

This all be in another forum, however I am using CSIPSimple and it supports my plantronic BT voyager 510, (on Honeycomb)
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/voyager-510&skuId=sku4610016
And, CSIPSimple opens the default Android Dialer (Which is in Honeycomb) to send and receive calls.

Would you mind testing it to be sure?
If so, place a call, leave your pad and walk like 15 feet and see if you are still heard.
Please don't be offended, I have just had WAY to many people say the same thing as you, only to find out A2DP let them hear, and they were using the tab mic without knowing it.

Hmmm.. I will check later tonight. That is a good question.

Thanks young... anyone else use csip too?

The hardware is capable, the problem is with the provisioning. Verizon adds feature codes to block voice and SMS on their tablet data plans.

what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?

Morkai Almandragon said:
what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?
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There is no sim to switch.
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So then? Any tablet outside of the us ( or Verizon) is able
To standard phonecalls?
I'm in the uk and I was planning to buy the 3g version but if I still have to carry a phone to txt or call, i'll choose the WiFi one, save 200 bucks, and tether with my nexus when needed although I'm not very happy with the idea of carrying multiple devices...
Btw , 3g version has been priced in.....600 pounds! What are they playing at? If I finally choose wifionly I'll buy for sure in the US, screw carphone and pcworld..
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I think you are asking a question that no one can answer at the moment.
LTE does use a SIM card, but, NO devices are currently available on Verizon's LTE network yet, so no one knows what happens if you switch LTE SIM cards between devices.
I also think that LTE devices use a VoIP type of voice connection, something different then how voice is done on CDMA. This new type of connection allows data and Voice to operate at the same time. This functionality, this Software dialer stack would need to be included in Honeycomb, which is not a phone Android distribution.

Young dud you test the bluetooth mic with csip?

Yes. I I have found is that I do have two way audio, all on the Bluetooth headset using csip, I walked around my house, leaving the Xoom several rooms away.
While in WiFi, Bluetooth audio was sketchy at best. For most calls, I could not get the headset in engage for the call. While in the call I would press Bluetooth on the dialer, and nothing would happen, or the audio would cut in and out, before engaging, or a few times I would have to press 'Speaker", then Bluetooth, then Speaker again before it would engage. When it would engage in WiFi I did have two way audio.
While in 3G, with WiFi Off, the connection with Bluetooth was perfect every time. No issues. The call call quality overall was a bit less then with WiFi, however Bluetooth worked correctly.
UPDATE: I just had a bad Bluetooth connection issue on 3G. So, it is spotty. It might be because CSip uses the default Android dialer which might be incomplete in some way on Honeycomb.
I should try another SIP app. But Bluetooth does have two way audio when I can get it to connect.

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Any Way to Make the HD2 Work Like UMA?

I've been trying to search for a solution to this, and haven't found anything yet on this topic. I keep seeing SIP and programs that require you to connect to a VoIP server, but I am not sure if this will accomplish the same goal. Basically I like how the Blackberry UMA technology connects via WiFi from overseas, and lets you make calls back to the US using your regular plan minutes with no long distance charges. Is there any way to do the same thing on the HD2 (US version)? I know the antenna's are not the same technology.
There is also an option for internet calling when you go to Settings Tab>Menu>All Settings>Personal>Phone>Internet. It reads:
Internet Calling
To set the calling network for your next call, select Internet Calling on the Home Screen.
Does this even do anything?
I too would be very interested in something like this as my reception at my home - inside or out - is very weak.
I have tried several different radios as well, but I'm not having any luck.
Ditto.. I could totally use this feature. Does anyone know if you must have hardware that supports it or is it just software that runs on the phone ?
As far as I know both the hardware and software must support UMA in order for it to work. For instance, I could use UMA calling on my Shadow 2009, but could'nt on my Shadow 2007, even though they ran the same build of WinMo. From what I understand UMA has to be built into the WiFi chip in order for it to work.
I have truphone, witch works great, but only for outgoing calls. I need something that works through wifi that I can get incoming calls as well as outgoing. This is the one and only thing that makes me miss my blackberry. If I wasn't merely 9 months into my 2 year contract I could afford the mytouch 4g or the G2 and enjoy uma, but I don't have 500 plus dollars for yet another new phone. Trust me I'd love a new Mytouch 4G but it's at least another year until I can get one. I know this is off topic but does anyone have any hands on knowledge about the signal boosters they sell online? what ones work? cuz I get like 1 bar in my house and it comes and goes but soon as i'm 3 doors up I have 5 bars and 3g. So I definitely need something.
I was searching for just the same thing and came across this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380803
post 23 explains it, so now all thats needed is adaptation, but I'm not a programer.
Here are the files I did download, but I haven't tested them, nor would know how to "make" them work.
Hope someone can make this work, I get 0 service at home, cause I live in a rural area, but work in a metro.
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As far as I know both the hardware and software must support UMA in order for it to work. For instance, I could use UMA calling on my Shadow 2009, but could'nt on my Shadow 2007, even though they ran the same build of WinMo. From what I understand UMA has to be built into the WiFi chip in order for it to work.
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But how does that explain the Wi-fi calling feature that is added through custom rom flashes for the Samsung Vibrant and the Nexus One? Both those devices never had UMA from the beginning but was added through custom flashes later on.
Yeah, Damenloader is right. How come there's a rom that gives the Vibrant and the Nexus UMA wifi calling ? Anybody ? I'd REALLY like to get UMA on my HD2.
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But how does that explain the Wi-fi calling feature that is added through custom rom flashes for the Samsung Vibrant and the Nexus One? Both those devices never had UMA from the beginning but was added through custom flashes later on.
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Yeah, Damenloader is right. How come there's a rom that gives the Vibrant and the Nexus UMA wifi calling ? Anybody ? I'd REALLY like to get UMA on my HD2.
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Are you guys sure you're not confusing Wi-Fi calling for UMA? These are two different technologies. Wi-Fi calling is simply using a messenger program or SIP server to make calls using Wi-Fi. It's free to other Wi-Fi users or charged to account credits for phone numbers (Fringo, Skype, Nimbuzz, Google Voice). SIP servers work the same way (SIP Gate, etc.), you have to have an account with credit to make Wi-Fi calls to phone numbers.
Both of these Wi-Fi calling options require you to purchase calling credit to make calls to telephone numbers.
The idea behind UMA is that you do not have to purchase credit through a third party, but instead you use the minutes on your T-Mobile plan. For example, if you make a Wi-Fi call with a Blackberry (UMA-enabled phone), you would be connected through T-Mobile's servers (not 3rd party, ie: Skype), and they would simply deduct the minutes from your monthly plan. It would work the same with UMA as it would with a regular phone call through wireless service, free t-motbile to t-mobile, nights and weekends, etc.
I have searched this information thoroughly and have only come to conclude that UMA capability has to be built into the phone, via a chip or other. So far I have not seen anything about UMA being accessible through a program install or software mod.
If you simply want Wi-Fi calling it is possible with the HD2, as I have already done it with Skype and SIP Gate. It will be free if the person you are calling also has Skype, Nimbuzz, Fringo, etc. If you don't mind paying 2-10 cents/minute, then you can purchase the credit and make Wi-Fi calls to telephone numbers as well.
Hope this answers your question.
cu2cool, I believe you may have it a little wrong on the part of UMA. Like in the link I posted before, UMA isn't hardware or chip dependent, though phones like Blackberrys have a dedicated chip for the purpose. UMA is software dependent, and most likely radio dependent. My proof is in this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807116 taken from a Nexus1 thread, which phone didn't have UMA support before some crafty guys worked it out. Don't get me wrong I'm no expert on the subject, just from reading around, I'm fairly certain its "possible" and all it should take is a crafty person with the know-how to make it work.
Edit: Just found this (actually had it opened for weeks and forgot I had it) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843433&page=6 a dev page for WIP on UMA-HD2_TMo-Android.
I finally just forked over the cash for a Mytouch 4G, and it was money well spent even if just for the wifi calling alone.
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I think I just saw something that might help. It came out on the 11th of February. http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/windows-mobile-voip-sip-updated/

Make/Rcv Phone Calls Sipdroid including video conferencing

I dont know if you guys already know this but if you are kind of annoyed by switching or waiting around for the firmware to have phone enabled. You can tried this anyway:
1. sign up for google voice if you haven't already, install apk
2. dl sipdroid from the market.
3. create an account and allow it associate with gv.
4. follow this guide
http://ifdefined.com/blog/post/How-...ee-calls-over-the-internet-using-Android.aspx
Note: The guide is only for receiving calls .
when you start the guide you should see GTALK under Trunk, / under inbound, 0 GTalk under outbound. You need this for out going calls.
if ipkalls says you already signed up that means someone already used your ISP ip address.
once you are done you should be able to make and receive calls with 3/4G or wifi...edge is kind of crappy
BTW, you can disable it under settings calls Call Screening and toggle off and confirm...so you dont have to dial 1 anymore just pick up the phone and use you BT headset.
enable 3g in sipdroid settings and now you have a phone
This also works on other tabs as well. I tested it on Galaxy Tab Tmobile(simple mobile), Galaxy Tab Sprint(wifi), Archos 101 (wifi), Zenithink wifi, Haipad wifi, and a Wifi'ed G1 works great.
bluetooth sucks on 3G
jarez said:
bluetooth sucks on 3G
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Actually I use bluetooth and it works just as good on 3g as wifi while driving even. Any problems with call quality are the result of a poor 3g connection, not bluetooth.
Seems like it forks with a2dp
Alternatively, you can use fring once you are done with setup. Go to add ons and add sip info.
You can uninstall gv so you dont have to have so many dailer options
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Seems like it forks with a2dp
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Ah, Im not using an A2DP headset at the moment, but a Voyager Pro, which is working great with every phone Ive used it with.
I've tried doing a video call using sipdroid and the image was on its side. Did they update this?
From the Tab.
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The front facing camera seems bounded to portrait. I do not see any options on display it in landscape. I somehow fat fingered and got the other camera to function
BT head set Nokia BH-503 brain farts it has A2DP.
$14 PoS BT earpiece Nokia BH-104 works.
Kenwood DNX-6160 works as well.
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Bounty for Wifi Calling ??

How can we get this badboy working with wifi calling, im well aware of tmobiles IMS service and how difficult it will be ( nothings impossible with XDA ) to get Tmobiles wifi calling working on this phone .. but im sure that some people like myself really depend on it !! Socal area sucks Id be willing to put 30$ towards the bounty to get this started .. anyone else interested ?
Try putting it in 2g mode for better signal
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ac3theone said:
Try putting it in 2g mode for better signal
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It doesnt make a difference, and its a known issue in this area that all the carriers suck
alleyezondisromo said:
It doesnt make a difference, and its a known issue in this area that all the carriers suck
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I too would be willing to donate to this cause. However, I've been testing with GrooveIP over Wifi, and it works extremely well. Call quality is excellent and you can use it for incoming and outgoing calls without using your plan minutes. I'm using the $5 pro version which integrates with the native dialer, so you makes calls just like you would normally. I know this isn't the same thing as T-Mobile's Wifi calling, but it's a good solution nonetheless.
Best chances of it happening will be when opitmus g with JB is released by T-Mobile. Need system dump with rils, maybe some libs and maybe an apk will be in there. That's what we had to do with the G2 and many older devices when ICS came out. But might be a few months before u see anything. I heard rumors T-Mobile are setting up SIP support but its just rumors
I second the endorsement of GrooVe IP. I don't have my N4 yet (caught in Play Store limbo, like so many others), but in anticipation I've been testing GrooVe IP lightly on my LG G2x and have found it to be very good, with audio quality noticeably better than wifi calling.
sipdroid with a free pbxes account. disable all codecs except speex. excellent.
I really wish google would improve the native sip client...
i'm in for $30 for nexus 4 wifi calling. a lack of wifi calling is only thing holding me back from getting a nexus 4. I have zero tmobile signal inside my house.. (okay, a little at one corner, but not where my home office is.. )
I'd love to get a nexus 4.. but only if it has wifi calling.. even if it is a terrible cm7/gb2.3 hack to get it working.. Obviously, IMS calling would be best.. but as long as it works..
I use groove Ip for my wifi calling. I fwd all my calls to my phone anyway since google voice is my main number, when I get home and connect wifi, groove IP takes over and I receive calls on my phone anyway.
I haven't had any issues using this method on the nexus 4.
dellenrules said:
I use groove Ip for my wifi calling. I fwd all my calls to my phone anyway since google voice is my main number, when I get home and connect wifi, groove IP takes over and I receive calls on my phone anyway.
I haven't had any issues using this method on the nexus 4.
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Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
It might be possible if the T-Mobile version of the LG Optimus phones with the same hardware have it. Assuming someone can hack it together, and the differences in OS aren't a show stopper.
donec said:
Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
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My testing has mostly been by calling my other voicemail line and listening to the recording, so it's only been short segments, but I haven't detected any echoes or dropouts so far.
I've made hour long calls to landline and mobiles with absolutely no drops or issues. In fact the quality is better than what I experienced on vzw. I would say it is on par with my FiOS landline phone. It will of course depend on the quality of your WiFi connection, particularly jitter and latency.
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arvonn said:
i'm in for $30 for nexus 4 wifi calling. a lack of wifi calling is only thing holding me back from getting a nexus 4. I have zero tmobile signal inside my house.. (okay, a little at one corner, but not where my home office is.. )
I'd love to get a nexus 4.. but only if it has wifi calling.. even if it is a terrible cm7/gb2.3 hack to get it working.. Obviously, IMS calling would be best.. but as long as it works..
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try giving T-mobile a call, they might give you a cell booster
donec said:
Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
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I had echoing when I first used it, but solved it by enabling the basic echo canceller. It send a beep when the call connects then auto magically adjust the device for echoes.
Haven't had a problem since.
dellenrules said:
I had echoing when I first used it, but solved it by enabling the basic echo canceller. It send a beep when the call connects then auto magically adjust the device for echoes.
Haven't had a problem since.
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Yes, I forgot to mention that I had enabled the basic echo canceling as well. Seems to work fine in my testing.
wmm said:
Yes, I forgot to mention that I had enabled the basic echo canceling as well. Seems to work fine in my testing.
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I didn't realize google voice costs $20 to port my number to them. PLus the $5 for GrooVe IP, I'm going to be into this for $25, but at least I should be able to use my phone in my house again.
Has anyone tried Bobsled for this?
u are not alone in this hunt... good news is... 2013 is a good year for voip.
so first off all let me just tell u, ive been hunting for a good FREE VOIP, 4 wayyy to frigging long.
but i have finally got the perfect COMBO of apps that get the job done, and might i add quite well too!
first go set up ur google voice account and get u a free number....
download google voice.... pray ur phone has had service at one point or another....and google acceepts ur phone to allow u to use google voice (google voice is a pain in the ass to get it to register sometimes)...for some reason they want only people with active service to use their service... which makes no sense at all.....but... sometimes those free texting apps that give u 10 FREE minutes calling will do it....
then go download gv+ or mo+ (same friggin thing_ same devoloper) - seems like when one is acting up i can uninstall it and download the other and it will work perfectly for about 2 months then i gota switch back to the other again... its odd...
but i can call anywhere in america for free.... no questions asked... as long as i download voice and install it also. idk
i actually use voice for all my texting and then when i wana call sum1 then i use the mo+ app. and it works flawlessly. no weird numbers, no grainy calls, no echo... its wonderful!

SIM card from my phone + SMS + GV + Groove = Win

So I trimmed the full size SIM card from my GS2 to work in the camera, added Go SMS Pro, Google Voice and Groove IP.
- my phone data plan is now being used in the camera (no 2nd plan needed)
- SMS to my ATT phone # come in fine and I can respond fine; no one knows I am not using a "phone"
- I use my Google Voice phone # in Groove IP to make phone calls over the data network; sounds fine in car on BT, on BT headset and even sounds fine holding the camera like a phone; people are surprised to see a different phone #, but it works great
- I forwarded my ATT phone # to GV so when people call my ATT # I get the calls on the camera
- I can check my ATT voice mail and GV voice mail from the camera no problem
I haven't tried a wired headset just because I don't know where it is since I never use it.
I would use the normal phone apk and my ATT number on the camera if someone ever gets it to work, but I can do everything without it.
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The reasons for me to do this is:
- I don't want to carry two devices if I don't have to
- I don't want two plans
- I want to take better pictures than I can without the bigger sensor and optical zoom
knoxbrder said:
So I trimmed the full size SIM card from my GS2 to work in the camera, added Go SMS Pro, Google Voice and Groove IP.
- my phone data plan is now being used in the camera (no 2nd plan needed)
- SMS to my ATT phone # come in fine and I can respond fine; no one knows I am not using a "phone"
- I use my Google Voice phone # in Groove IP to make phone calls over the data network; sounds fine in car on BT, on BT headset and even sounds fine holding the camera like a phone; people are surprised to see a different phone #, but it works great
- I forwarded my ATT phone # to GV so when people call my ATT # I get the calls on the camera
- I can check my ATT voice mail and GV voice mail from the camera no problem
I haven't tried a wired headset just because I don't know where it is since I never use it.
I would use the normal phone apk and my ATT number on the camera if someone ever gets it to work, but I can do everything without it.
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The reasons for me to do this is:
- I don't want to carry two devices if I don't have to
- I don't want two plans
- I want to take better pictures than I can without the bigger sensor and optical zoom
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I guess it's not that easy...
First the radio firmware won't support phone calls, you'd need to find another one. Then it seems that the Camera only comes with a 3G only radio chip as GPRS doesn't work (didn't try myself though). It can be doubted that there is a phone capaility on the hardware side at all.
How did you trim the sim card? It would be nice to just put my VZW sim in the camera so I don't have to pay for the second plan.
Thanks!
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How did you trim the sim card? It would be nice to just put my VZW sim in the camera so I don't have to pay for the second plan.
Thanks!
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All the solutions above are not working in asia ,
the USERS from asia (china,taiwan do not use 4G) ,so we still need a hardware Solution (2g gsm chip)!
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All the solutions above are not working in asia ,
the USERS from asia (china,taiwan do not use 4G) ,so we still need a hardware Solution (2g gsm chip)!
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Not true. it support 3G and indeed i'm doing exactly what OP did. with singapore data sim that have unlimited free sms.
and wechat can activate thru same phone number. that go for voice call..

Make phone calls with 4G dongle?

Hi there,
I'm a new owner of a Joying HU and figuring out how it all works.
Pretty happy with it so far.
So here's my question:
I ordered a 4G dongle to have a permanent data reception and was wondering, if it would be possible to do in- and outcoming calls with it directly so I could do withou a bluetooth paired phone at all.
Has anybody tried that or ist this just not possible?
Thanks
Thomas
I'm planning a similar setup, but it looks like there are no 4G dongles with voice support. If you need 4G, the only options right now seem to be some LTE routers which support VoLTE or CSFB and can act as a SIP server (e.g. Huawei E5186). However, all I've found are somewhat expensive and rather bulky.
The situation looks a lot better for 3G though. Asterisk's chan_dongle module supports voice calls with a bunch of Huawei 3G dongles. So my current plan is to use one of these, run asterisk as a local SIP server, and use an Android SIP client for calls. That way, I don't have to find or write a specialty dialer that supports 3G dongles.
if you are on T-Mobile they have the DIGITS app that will allow you to do that. Someone at one time got Tablet Talk to work, but I never could
I use Google Voice app. Makes all the calls through data as VOIP. as an added bonus, they give you a number so you don't need to use your personal phone for business

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