In a bit of a dilemma between the GNex and the N4 - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Right now, I have an Xperia X8. I've had this phone for over a year, and it's my first smartphone ever. During this year, I've flashed a lot so I know the basics around that stuff. And that's why I fell in love with Nexus phones. No possibilities of bricking your phone with just simply unlocking your bootloader (which I've done with my X8 once) and stuff like that.
Problem is, I currently live in Macedonia. Here, the new GNex costs 300 euros with a one year warranty. There's still no Nexus 4 here, but my friend's dad is in the US right now, and he may be able to buy one for me, but he'll be back here in about 2 months. And I can get the GNex in less than a week here. I already have the money as well. If he buys the Nexus 4 for me from the US, it'll cost about 300-320 euros. So the price is pretty much the same.
Now here's the problem: I don't know if I should wait for the Nexus 4, or just buy the GNex. I've been really impatient about buying a new phone. My brother bought a GNex a couple of weeks ago, and it's really good, especially for my standards.
The Nexus 4 is basically a performance upgrade, but mostly in heavy gaming. And I'm not really a heavy gamer. I only play small games like Temple Run and stuff like that, and not so frequently. And those run very smoothly in my brother's GNex. Even NFS:MW runs smoothly, and it's a heavy game.
What I don't like about the N4 though, is the fact that it's completely made of glass and there's a big chance I can break it. Plus, if I buy it from the US, the charger won't be compatible here. And I'm afraid that if I use some other one, it may not be good for the phone's battery. But that's just a theory of mine, not sure if it's actually true. And I've read that many people have had to exchange their original shipments because of some hardware factory bugs. And there's no possible way I can exchange mine.
Your input would be greatly appreciated. I really have no idea what to do. I'm leaning more towards the GNex though.
TLDR: Have to wait 2 months for Nexus 4, and less than a week for a new GNex. Same price here. Which one should I buy?

I was in the same situation 2 months ago. My two brothers have the Gnexus and I decided to wait for the N4, i had a friend in the US and asked them to order one. I waited impatiently for 1 month(it actually got delivered 10 days after i placed the order, but i had to wait another 3 weeks for the guy to come back to Jordan).
Anyway watching reviews/comparisons between the Gnex and N4 I thought they are almost identical, i thought the N4 is just a minor upgrade at best. Now whenever i look at the Gnex or hold the two phones in my hand i know for sure I made the right decision. The N4 performs quite better and is snappier in general, the Gnex screen looks pixelated and blurred compared to the N4's. Also it looks better and feels better in the hand, plus the 2GB of RAM is a huge advantage.
Thats my opinion , so I say wait for the N4 and hopefully you wont regret it.
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Having owned both I would wait for the n4. Better screen, better hardware, feels and looks better, and it will receive support from Google a bit longer than the GNex. Just protect that back glass on the n4.
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Nexus 4 is better in every way

I can't understand why you would get a "dated" model, when you can get a new one that's better in every point of view. Nexus 4 is one helluva phone and at least 50% of issues you're reading about here, are a bit over exaggerated imho. Go for it.
EDIT: And don't order it from the US, wait till it arrives to your country, they're just beginning to come back to stock..

Get the Nexus 4! I've had both and it's a safe bet to wait and grab the N4!
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The gnex isn't made completely if glass, the Nexus 4 is.
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the only thing you would need to ask yourself is, do i want to wait ?
also what will you be doing on the phone ?
do you need the quad core/ 2gb ram ? compared to the gnex ?
u want removable battery or no ?
you want IPS screen or AMOLED ?
price obviously isnt a problem
its just your preferences.
overall the nexus 4 is of course better than the gnex.
But the gnex is still an amazin phone

The N4 is better in every way for sure, but my concern would the warranty and tech support. The defect rate for the N4 seems high. I had to do an RMA once and the second unit's wallet app doesn't work out of the box. Had to deal with Google support over a period of two weeks. Don't know how well the N4 is supported in your country, but you may want to take that into account.
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moses992 said:
I was in the same situation 2 months ago. My two brothers have the Gnexus and I decided to wait for the N4, i had a friend in the US and asked them to order one. I waited impatiently for 1 month(it actually got delivered 10 days after i placed the order, but i had to wait another 3 weeks for the guy to come back to Jordan).
Anyway watching reviews/comparisons between the Gnex and N4 I thought they are almost identical, i thought the N4 is just a minor upgrade at best. Now whenever i look at the Gnex or hold the two phones in my hand i know for sure I made the right decision. The N4 performs quite better and is snappier in general, the Gnex screen looks pixelated and blurred compared to the N4's. Also it looks better and feels better in the hand, plus the 2GB of RAM is a huge advantage.
Thats my opinion , so I say wait for the N4 and hopefully you wont regret it.
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That's amazing. That post was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot man!
0rigin said:
I can't understand why you would get a "dated" model, when you can get a new one that's better in every point of view. Nexus 4 is one helluva phone and at least 50% of issues you're reading about here, are a bit over exaggerated imho. Go for it.
EDIT: And don't order it from the US, wait till it arrives to your country, they're just beginning to come back to stock..
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I just saw that they brought a Nexus 4 in one of our mobile network providers or whatever you call those, but it's going to cost like 500 euros. Unfortunately I don't have that kind of money...
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The gnex isn't made completely if glass, the Nexus 4 is.
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Yeah I meant the N4, just a typo. Fixed it now.
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The N4 is better in every way for sure, but my concern would the warranty and tech support. The defect rate for the N4 seems high. I had to do an RMA once and the second unit's wallet app doesn't work out of the box. Had to deal with Google support over a period of two weeks. Don't know how well the N4 is supported in your country, but you may want to take that into account.
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Yeah, the warranty is a huge problem. Well, not the actual one year warranty as much as the fear of getting a defected phone and not being able to exchange it due to the phone already being brought back to my country. But, the above posts suggest that I shouldn't worry about that. Why did you have to do an RMA the first time? I don't use Google Wallet so I don't really care about that.

edinchez said:
Yeah, the warranty is a huge problem. Well, not the actual one year warranty as much as the fear of getting a defected phone and not being able to exchange it due to the phone already being brought back to my country. But, the above posts suggest that I shouldn't worry about that. Why did you have to do an RMA the first time? I don't use Google Wallet so I don't really care about that.
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The first phone had a busted ear piece. You can hear constant buzzing no matter you are on a call or not. It also had bad crackling sound (like a blown speaker) while on call. There is a thread about that. Seems to be quite common, at least among early hardware revision.
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HellBunny said:
The first phone had a busted ear piece. You can hear constant buzzing no matter you are on a call or not. It also had bad crackling sound (like a blown speaker) while on call. There is a thread about that. Seems to be quite common, at least among early hardware revision.
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Ah. Well, that's sucks! Anyway, thanks a lot for your reply.

Back when i lived in Australia, i used the service, comgateway.com to get US only items shipped to me(they create a pseudo address for you at their warehouse) . That's how i got my nexus one and galaxy nexus. It only cost 30aud to ship it and it got there in less than a week. I don't know if they ship to Macedonia, but you can sure find out. Save waiting months.

Wait for the Nexus 4
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Sv: In a bit of a dilemma between the GNex and the N4
Definately wait for Nexus 4
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Wait, man. Seriously, there's a night and day difference between the GNEX and N4 when you hold them and use them in your hands.
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Nexus 4 worth the wait (or get S2x?)

So, I would have gotten the N4, I have been waiting months now and now am kind of going to give up.
I can get a S2x for $280 Canadian all in, new and paid for..
I would love to wait for the n4 to be instock, I would get it after my big trip to asia that I will require a good mobile internet device. I also find i like to have a couple of spare batteries when I go boating for gps or hiking and other things like this where it is nice to have a backup full battery for emergency use.
I am also very hard on phones as I use them for work, i have to whip it out constantly rain or shine, and they get dropped often, so I will be upgrading from a very tough device, 9700 blackberry that has falled on cement at least 50 times or more, also been ran over by a car, dropped in water twice, and used in wet weather constantly.
I just want a fast and cheap device, either phone will cover that, but I wonder what one will be the toughest ?
Yeah I don't know why Google is encouraging the closed system phone (You can't open the battery or anything), that's what I hate about the iPhone.
The Nexus 4 is still a good phone, but if you go hiking or on trips frequently, I wouldn't suggest it as your battery may die when you need it the most.
How ever, it's not hard to carry an old phone with you (A Brickphone), to use when your Nexus 4 dies.
You can find those old crappy phones for like $15 on Craigslist
If you often drop your phone then I'd avoid the Nexus 4 if I were you!
Battery life isn't great either. And the camera sucks imho. And storage is tight. I'm starting to have some regrets about mine now if I'm perfectly honest.
Camera doesn't suck
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Get this phone man.. Unless you expect EVERY feature and function to be absolutely perfect, there isn't a phone in existence without a small flaw or two.
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Girn said:
Camera doesn't suck
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Did some tests yesterday comparing against friends HTC One X, Samsung Galaxy S3 and my old Xperia arc S. My Nexus 4 camera was by far the worst of the bunch, especially indoor shots. Outside in bright conditions it's not bad. I've taken a lot of pictures with mine now and am generally unhappy with the quality. Focus seems to be a real problem (hopefully this can be rectified with a s/w fix) but detail is lacking and images look washed out in comparison with other devices.
The 2011 Xperia arc S camera blows the Nexus 4 one away. I guess I was spoilt with that device.
I waited from nov 13 to 29 for mine and love it.
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blendobass said:
I can get a S2x for $280 Canadian all in, new and paid for..
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You can get those for like $180 with coupons, head over to redflagdeals.
So, this morning I got email saying nexus 4 in stock, i made my order and it says will ship in 1-2 weeks ! Sweet, not I have to return this S2 when it comes in the mail or sell the nexus 4 when I decide what one is better. YES
PS it says Canada only - STOKED - cause I am will speak out 711 (rogers) and so I will be getting LTE out of this on unlimited browsing for $10 a month too ! LOL KOODO and all the other rip off mobile providers and sellers in Canada, including the iphone, I don't even need to jailbreak, unlock or have your logo on my phone
I'm starting to like the Nexus 4's camera.
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I'm starting to like the Nexus 4's camera.
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Also in Canada here, currently stuck on Mobilicity and my i717 cant even see the network for the life of me.
Wanted the N4 but waiting for it to ship out hurts. I think I might go back to my S2X.
Whats this about it being on sale for $280? i saw it at koodo for $250.
You tested speakout for LTE speeds, confirmed?
rec71 said:
If you often drop your phone then I'd avoid the Nexus 4 if I were you!
Battery life isn't great either. And the camera sucks imho. And storage is tight. I'm starting to have some regrets about mine now if I'm perfectly honest.
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Android 4.2 for some reason isnt as battery friendly as 4.1. Battery life gets better with a few cycles and some of the kernels offer great battery life ( matrix kernel).
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When Does Google normally make new Nexus available

I am ready for a new phone... but can still wait for a couple new months.... Want to get the Nexus 4 --- stuck on SGS2 and G2X.
I know the Google I/O is in May, so trying to figure out, wait till May - to see what happens, and then buy a new phone in May (if a new one comes in at that time).. or does the new Nexus not really become available till late in the year for purchase.. about Oct/Nov.
If its that long, I would rather by the N4 right now.
Any Ideas from you guys?
mumbojumbo01 said:
I am ready for a new phone... but can still wait for a couple new months.... Want to get the Nexus 4 --- stuck on SGS2 and G2X.
I know the Google I/O is in May, so trying to figure out, wait till May - to see what happens, and then buy a new phone in May (if a new one comes in at that time).. or does the new Nexus not really become available till late in the year for purchase.. about Oct/Nov.
If its that long, I would rather by the N4 right now.
Any Ideas from you guys?
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AFAIK, Google never released a Nexus smartphone at I/O. Nexus phones are usually released around Oct/Nov. Nexus 4 was released last Nov. I wouldn't expect another Nexus phone in May. There might however be a Motorola phone during I/O, but I don't think it'll be a Nexus device.
You can expect a successor for Nexus 7 as it was released last I/O.
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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qazibasit said:
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Nexus devices are intended to be reference devices to showcase the latest versions of Android in their stock, unfettered form. They're for developers. Nexus devices (outside of the Nexus One) have never been top of the line in terms of hardware. They don't need to be. Nexus isn't marketed as a premium brand, nor does it have the premium brand price tag that comes along with it. My God, they're selling the Nexus 4 for $299 8GB and $349 16GB off contract. What do you expect for that price?
qazibasit said:
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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I fail to see where the Nexus 4 hardware is "junky."
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mumbojumbo01 said:
I am ready for a new phone... but can still wait for a couple new months.... Want to get the Nexus 4 --- stuck on SGS2 and G2X.
I know the Google I/O is in May, so trying to figure out, wait till May - to see what happens, and then buy a new phone in May (if a new one comes in at that time).. or does the new Nexus not really become available till late in the year for purchase.. about Oct/Nov.
If its that long, I would rather by the N4 right now.
Any Ideas from you guys?
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You won't see a new Nexus phone before fall. So if you want a Nexus, pull the trigger on an N4. It's a great phone, the price is right, and you're basically guaranteed Android version updates through at least the middle of next year.
qazibasit said:
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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Subjective opinion is subjective.
As for ETA of Nexus 5, I too doubt Google will announce it at Google I/O. Although it has been done before (HTC Dream), recent trend shows Google I/O focuses more on tablets. But you never know, just be patient.
We will see, last year Google launched two tablets. Rumours are that Motorola X will be launched on Google I/O. I hope they will, but if you need a phone now, N4 is still very good choice.
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Like said by most, look more for the fall for a true Nexus device. This might talk about KLP but not new hardware on the phone, maybe preview an update to the tablet though.
qazibasit said:
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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There is a thanks button but is there a "ignore this person who has no clue" button?
Junky hardware? The most recent marketed ARM architecture in a quad core phone with a decent GPU, spangly glass back, HD screen and all for nearly the subsidized price of every other phone on the planet (the SGS3 is like $600 without carrier subsidy).
This phone is easily the bargain of the century, which is probably why Google was caught off-guard when they launched it. The previous Nexii were only bought by nerds, now I know a dozen people who used other Android phones or iPhones that jumped to unrooted Nexus 4s just because of the cost savings.
Thank you guys... as I stated, I can easily put of a couple of months, its mainly the G2X that is killing me and want to replace that....but if its till fall, then I might as well bite the bullet and get this one.. instead of waiting till later on.
does anyone think the Motorola phone will be thru google also.. or would that be thru carriers? because I am DONE with carriers.. want it straight from the source.
Right now its sounding like its not going to be a Nexus, so no guaranteeing that its going to be on the cutting edge of Android. Also, it might be available unlocked but I suspect it wont be unlocked for $300/350. Probably more like the $600 everything else goes for unlocked.
Even if it was only $400 Id rather have the Nexus 4. Every rumor seems to be stuck on the Tegra chip, I have had two devices with Tegra chips and both were massive disappointments. Qualcomm seems to be really good at beating Nvidia in the mobile space without breaking a sweat.
Ditch the carriers now, its amazing how satisfying it can be. Not only is your bill cheaper but you always know in the back of your mind that if they ever angered you that you could tell them to shove it at any time.
Yeah .. I am ready to ditch the carriers... just need to have my number ported over to GVoice so that I can keep my number....unless there is another method?
How does keeping your number work with prepaid?
And Yeah I am going to go ahead and get the Nexus then, since fall is too far away to deal with G2x --- cant believe its another LG I am going to go to after that fiasco
You can port it to pre-paid as well, they are still under the rules set by the portability act. Being said you might as well just port it to GVoice and use that. Then you could change carriers and sims at will without worrying about the number.
One thing to note, voicemail is a bit wonky with pre-paid because only AT&T right now supports conditional forwarding, so if someone got a hold of the actual phone number you will get an old fashioned voicemail instead of GVoice. Otherwise it works well (I call out using the app). Calling the Google Voice number though gets you the transcribed voicemails.
I am with straight talk and can flip back and forth at will between AT&T or T-Mobile sims month to month based on where I am. I just cant flip numbers back and forth, so that is why the Google Voice number is key.
As far as the phone itself is concerned. I read the reivews (short and long term) for the Optimus the Nexus was made from and everyone, virtually unanimously, said it was an incredible phone let down by ****ty software. Well, making it a Nexus and putting vanilla android solved that. Add that stupidly low price and its a done deal.
Just ordered it from the Play store... I guess they are shipping within about 2 weeks or so.. should get it by April.. hopefully.
mumbojumbo01 said:
Just ordered it from the Play store... I guess they are shipping within about 2 weeks or so.. should get it by April.. hopefully.
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What? I ordered mine I think 2 weeks ago when starting my day in the office and got it waiting for me the next day after work. Well the yellow delivery car was still parking in front of our flat while my wife happened to receive the delivery. This happened to me almost twice, when I ordered the first Nexus 4 a month ago for my cousin in Romania, they needed one more day...
Cheers, Lucian
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El Daddy said:
I fail to see where the Nexus 4 hardware is "junky."
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qazibasit said:
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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What? With one of the best mobile processors available (the best at launch), 2GB ram and a very good 720p HD display; the N4 is faar from being 'junky'.
Get your facts right.
I agree to users who say that n4 offers this much in this price tag. If ur a price centered person then why not go for cheap huwavei phones they have even more to offer in half the price of n4.
Nexus should be a premium device sith futuristic hardware. A average hardware, means that samsung or other oem are giving u more futuristic device that can get more updates on a single version than nexus.
Price should not be a justification.
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I agree to users who say that n4 offers this much in this price tag. If ur a price centered person then why not go for cheap huwavei phones they have even more to offer in half the price of n4.
Nexus should be a premium device sith futuristic hardware. A average hardware, means that samsung or other oem are giving u more futuristic device that can get more updates on a single version than nexus.
Price should not be a justification.
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Huwavei??? I won't even consider buying something with that stupid name!!! Just because of the name....
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qazibasit said:
I agree to users who say that n4 offers this much in this price tag. If ur a price centered person then why not go for cheap huwavei phones they have even more to offer in half the price of n4.
Nexus should be a premium device sith futuristic hardware. A average hardware, means that samsung or other oem are giving u more futuristic device that can get more updates on a single version than nexus.
Price should not be a justification.
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That makes no sense...when the n4 came out it came with the best processor on the market and 2 GB of ram...those $200 crap huwavei come with single core 1ghz processors and 512mb of ram and a ****ty screen...so how exactly are they better when they use specs from 2 years ago?
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Is the N4 worth buying at this time?

Hey all, been rocking a Galaxy Note for about six months or so after unloading an iphone. Very pleased with my Note...love the screen size...but have to admit it's large size can be a bit of a hindrance at times. Have been seriously considering switching to a Nexus 4 which is what I originally wanted but was back ordered for too long. Problem is I'm torn on picking up what I believe is a great phone versus waiting another 6 months for the Nexus 5. I know the SG4 and HTC One are coming soon, but I have to admit, I really want stock Android without all the extra features which I find useless. Basically, is the N4 still worth purchasing? Or is it a foolish move this late in the cycle?
Thanks!
Htc One, not a major inovation.
Galaxy S4- they ran out of ideas.
I think the Nexus is still worth it, especially now, when its price went down a bit.
I was actually in a close situation about 2 weeks ago. I was basically up to get a new phone and was looking around for what to get. I wanted the Nexus 4 since launch, but my impressions of AT&T (the only provider in my area that is GSM) weren't good and I wanted to stick with Verizon. After months of waiting, I finally narrowed it down to waiting for the Galaxy S4 and signing a contract with the (again, opinion) superior service provider Verizon or switching to AT&T and staying off-contract with the cheaper phone with comparable specs. There was also the possibility of waiting for the next Nexus to come out (Nexus 5?) when it does.
Well, I decided on the Nexus 4 on AT&T and haven't looked back. I couldn't be happier. As far as Nexus 4 vs Galaxy S4 and HTC One is concerned, I am more than happy with my decision. The hardware is amazing, but the main reasons I'm so happy is the vanilla Android and the community. I love how Google really doesn't care about rooting and modding (it's like 1 or 2 commands in a command window to unlock the bootloader, that's awesome). Then there are forums like this that help you with stuff. Yeah, there are Galaxy S3 sections and they are helpful, but I just feel that the Nexus 4 forums are....I dunno...more friendly? more helpful? I don't know how to put it, but I just like the community better.
Now on the debate of getting a Nexus 4 now or waiting for the next one to come out. I actually liked being 6 months into the release. That way, you avoid back-order issues, and everyone has had time to develop and fix issues with ROMs and whatnot. 6 months in, all you have to do is read a "Nexus 4 101" sticky thread and they have step by step instructions for completely customizing/flashing/etc. it. I will probably continue waiting 6 months after release to buy a new Nexus phone for those two reasons.
Well there's my two cents. Feel free to consider it.
Thanks guys. Appreciate the insights.
Johmama, sounds like we're in very similar situations. After giving up on the N4 and going with the Note a few months ago, I made the switch from Verizon to Straight Talk. While it's not perfect service, it's 1/3 the monthly bill which allows me to forgive the occasional issue. That also is why I'm strictly debating N4 vs. N5 now. The purchase price of the Nexus line makes it very affordable compared to $650+ for the other options. Basically, by the time I unload my Note and accessories, it should be a pretty even swap, so cost isn't an issue. Just wanted to know if the device is still considered a smart buy. Seems like most are more than happy with it, so I think I'll make the jump.
Again, thanks for the help.
I came from the DNA, and was planning on just keeping this till ONE is released, but I'm keeping it. Sure I miss the screen size a bit, but I love this phone and am thinking I'm only gonna be a Nexus guy from now on. Its worth it. Also having good dev support is way cool
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I came from the DNA, and was planning on just keeping this till ONE is released, but I'm keeping it. Sure I miss the screen size a bit, but I love this phone and am thinking I'm only gonna be a Nexus guy from now on. Its worth it. Also having good dev support is way cool
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Same for me! This phone is simply awesome! I have it for 6 weeks now and I really love it! Screen size, resolution, amazing hardware, amazing software, no bloatware,... Nexus is the way to go!
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I just got my phone couple weeks ago cause I got a fabulous day on Craigslist. Full well knowing the HTC One is coming out I could easily sell this for a profit but decided this phone is not $300 less of a phone then the HTC One.
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Get it while its still hot! but be careful when you hold it!

This new Nexus 7 gets better after using it for a while

I'm loving this new model, but yesterday I wasn't so sure, had a bit of scrolling lag, didn't seem particularly quick, its as if you have to let the device work for a while so it irons out its own little wrinkles, today this tablet has been super smooth, fast and responsive, last night I had a bit of buyers remorse, tonight I'm thinking this thing amazing, highly highly recommend to anyone thinking about it, and if your wondering if its enough of an upgrade from the 1st Nexus then yes... I couldn't go back at all, Google have tool a major step forward with this device, I'm really excites to see what the N10 will be like
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I have noticed the same thing. Today this tablet really started to fly.
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DualSportDad said:
I have noticed the same thing. Today this tablet really started to fly.
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I've had a BNIB 32gb sitting in my room since friday. My coworker messaged me before lunch, and we went to the local best buy to go take a look...I ended up buying one on impulse.
Trying to see if buyer's remorse will kick in before the return period, I'm sure it'll be much harder to give up if I actually touch it again...
wtf is a BNIB? lol
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keijikage said:
I've had a BNIB 32gb sitting in my room since friday. My coworker messaged me before lunch, and we went to the local best buy to go take a look...I ended up buying one on impulse.
Trying to see if buyer's remorse will kick in before the return period, I'm sure it'll be much harder to give up if I actually touch it again...
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Personally I don't think its worth the upgrade over the original. But if you have the extra $300 to burn it's a nice tablet. If poetic had their revolution case out I might hang on to mine but I find myself using my old 7 more than the new cause of the case and kickstand.
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jayochs said:
wtf is a BNIB? lol
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BNIB(Brand new in box) not sure if you were kidding lol
keijikage said:
I've had a BNIB 32gb sitting in my room since friday. My coworker messaged me before lunch, and we went to the local best buy to go take a look...I ended up buying one on impulse.
Trying to see if buyer's remorse will kick in before the return period, I'm sure it'll be much harder to give up if I actually touch it again...
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Well you sell your old one and offset the cost of the new one. ~$100 is worth the upgraded hardware to me.
I'm waiting for a case to come out and find the new one kinda slippery because it is so thin and the rubber is on all sides.
My concern is while the OG N7 is still kicking today, come October it might not fair so well.
I'm a device whore and just love tinkering so I factor that into the difference in cost too.
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eep2378 said:
BNIB(Brand new in box) not sure if you were kidding lol
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hahaha nope, i've never heard that before..wow lol
player911 said:
Well you sell your old one and offset the cost of the new one. ~$100 is worth the upgraded hardware to me.
I'm waiting for a case to come out and find the new one kinda slippery because it is so thin and the rubber is on all sides.
My concern is while the OG N7 is still kicking today, come October it might not fair so well.
I'm a device whore and just love tinkering so I factor that into the difference in cost too.
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The thing is, (not that i'm rolling in money here), is that the OG N7 still has more utility than the $100 or so I would get for it. I could dedicate it as a tablet for the kitchen, "public" livingroom tablet, etc etc.
That being said, all I do is watch videos on mine, or maybe browse the internet. All that extra speed won't do me a whole lot of good, but damn did the new N7 feel good in the store.
For me it was a no-brainer upgrade. My 16 GB launch model had long since run out of space (had a 32 GB USB stick along to carry my PS1 games. Sold it on Amazon last week for $130. The $140 difference to upgrade size, screen, speakers, speed, and storage was well worth the cost.
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see anandtech mini review:
google has implemented fsTRIM in 4.3. This will manage "garbage collection" during idle cycles and keep the eMMC from becoming slow, and in perhaps may be the reason it seems faster day two.
The caches take some time to settle down. That's the first lesson I learnt when doing cache wipes. So prolly after a bit of use and time, caches have built up and you're running good.

Nexus 4 or Nexus 5

sooo i am stuck right now and can use some help.
i currently have an iphone 5 (dont know what i was thinking) and a nexus 4 with a broken lcd/digitizer.
i am also on tmo usa with jump. i came up on some money and am thinking about fixing my nexus 4 cause i am really bored with my iphone already. i said i have jump so i will be eligible for a phone upgrade in february which i am also thinking about just waiting it out and upgrading to the nexus 5. please help me, what should i do?
pinkgabe said:
sooo i am stuck right now and can use some help.
i currently have an iphone 5 (dont know what i was thinking) and a nexus 4 with a broken lcd/digitizer.
i am also on tmo usa with jump. i came up on some money and am thinking about fixing my nexus 4 cause i am really bored with my iphone already. i said i have jump so i will be eligible for a phone upgrade in february which i am also thinking about just waiting it out and upgrading to the nexus 5. please help me, what should i do?
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If your concerns are not about the battery life, n5 is the best choiche imho!
billand said:
If your concerns are not about the battery life, n5 is the best choiche imho!
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I'm used to charging my phone any chance lol
But thanks i guess I'll just wait it out until February.
get the nexus5.you'll love it
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just ask yourself:
what looks better in terms of cosmetic to you?
is the performance upgrade really needed for you?
is 16gb enough?
for me: i choosed n4 because n5 is ugly(for me),the 800 soc is not needed as i dont play too much games(actualy i dont play any high intensive game) and 16gb is enough.and i saved 350 bucks.
if your certain the digitizer is broken and nothing else and you can get the screen really cheap, 1/3rd of a new n4 then do it, otherwise buy the n5 if your in doubt, you dont want to be spending money on a old phone as you wont get that money back, personally i would sell the n4 and get the n5 since the nexus range is ment to be affordable, if you can handle ios for 2 months, plus kitkat should be improved by then
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if your certain the digitizer is broken and nothing else and you can get the screen really cheap, 1/3rd of a new n4 then do it, otherwise buy the n5 if your in doubt, you dont want to be spending money on a old phone as you wont get that money back, personally i would sell the n4 and get the n5 since the nexus range is ment to be affordable, if you can handle ios for 2 months, plus kitkat should be improved by then
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yeah its just my digitizer thats broken. i haven't really priced them but i was looking at a unit that costed $170 for a new battery, lcd, and digitizer. i figure if i make the switch to the nexus 5 from the iphone. ill make a $41 down payment + $17 (102+41=143) a month for as long as i keep it, which i dont plan on doing for more than 6 months cause android phones get outdated in the blink of an eye. ill also get the benefit of getting the sd800, but i don't really game that much... i know lte was spotty with my n4 eariler in the year and i dont think i can go back to hspa+ speeds after being on lte with iphone. so i think i am just going to wait it out. :good:
Go for nexus 5
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They are both good choices. If I was going to get one coming from an iphone, I'd probably go with the N5. I have a N4, and it doesn't seem like a step up enough to drop the money for the upgrade.
pinkgabe said:
sooo i am stuck right now and can use some help.
i currently have an iphone 5 (dont know what i was thinking) and a nexus 4 with a broken lcd/digitizer.
i am also on tmo usa with jump. i came up on some money and am thinking about fixing my nexus 4 cause i am really bored with my iphone already. i said i have jump so i will be eligible for a phone upgrade in february which i am also thinking about just waiting it out and upgrading to the nexus 5. please help me, what should i do?
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Go for the latest phone which is nexus 5
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N4 has a lot more compromises then the n5. Still a decent phone but I would pick up a moto g instead which sips power and a nicer screen for cheap or n5.
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