Related
Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
joesixpack1969 said:
Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3G on this first version of the Nexus S (assuming they come out with an HSPA version as well like they did for the N1) supports 900, 1700, and 2100 MHz. The onboard hardware does not support 850hz / 1900hz.
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
joesixpack1969 said:
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm pretty sure it was intentional. It would be in Google's best interest to have all bands so that they wouldn't need to release multiple versions like with the N1. They likely have a deal with T-Mo
joesixpack1969 said:
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
5 and 6 band HSPA radios are still quite uncommon. I can only think of one or two devices on the market that use them.
It is just life. Send them feedback and tell them you want an 850/1900 version.
Just wait for the Nexus S to come out on ATT, I seriously doubt Google is going to make the Nexus S strictly Tmobile. Tmobile makes up less than 10% of all cell phones, would be kind of stupid...
Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
That's GSM - you can make calls and get 2G (EDGE) data just fine on AT&T with the Nexus S... but would you want to? =)
joesixpack1969 said:
Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
dimes-jth said:
Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
I'm on ATT
I hate the EDGE speeds but there is nothing else we can do. I currently carry around my Nexus One with this one to use as a hotspot. Google will probably release another version within a couple months as they did with the N1. Hopefully they will cause tethering all the time is awesome to show off but cumbersome all at the same time
I picked up the nexus s yesterday. Love the phone compared to my Captivate on Cognition but EDGE is really hampering the experience.
petep86 said:
That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nokia managed to design a pentaband 3G (5 different 3G bands, 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz) phone, the N8 and it has no problems AFAIK. Samsung probably doesn't have the knowledge or talent to design a pentaband 3G device though.
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.
distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.
RogerPodacter said:
Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Re-read my post, and the post I was responding to again.
I never said that the Nexus S supports 850/900, I was telling a guy who said Samsung didn't know how to make such a phone that he was incorrect because Samsung has already made such a phone (the Vibrant which supports both AWS/1700/1900/2100 on the UMTS side).
Ironic that you're telling me to re-read something when you should have done the same before correcting me.
Peace!
Mactagonist said:
At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I'm well aware of this, but if you're in any major metro area where AT&T has been offering 3G service for a couple of years or more, 1900 is likely available to you. 850 is in far fewer areas, isn't it? It's only a recent addition to San Francisco as I recall.
1900 support in the Nexus S would have made it much more attractive to me, and a viable AT&T alternative for many across much of the country, but I'll concede that 850/1900 would be necessary to address the whole nation.
I see I mis read your post thinking it meant it had 1900.
Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
Did you do factory restore settings.. or just factory reset the whole phone..ooh are you on Android 2.1 or 2.3. Also go to network mode and see if its not on GSM only.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium
jamgirl said:
Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
this doesn't have anything to do with factory resetting the phone or whatever. it is simply hardware.
hope this sheds some light for you.
jamgirl said:
Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reason it worked in the iPhone is that T-Mobile and att use different 3g bands and the hardware in those phones is only setup to work on those bands. Before you buy a phone, unlocked you should find out what bands your local networks use.
saranhai said:
the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just some semantics: "most of the world" uses 2100 band, which makes MT4G compatible with most existing networks in Europe and around the world. Americas (both North and South), on the other hand, happen to use mostly 850 and 1900 bands, uncommon in the rest of the world, which are indeed incompatible with MT4G.
Am still confused.. even some people and parts of the united states people still fall on or can't get pass edge..anyway...
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium
As long as you don't have a compatible-band cellular tower of your carrier in vicinity, you won't get 3G. Not all cellular towers support 3G.
And if your carrier's band(s) aren't compatible, then you never get 3G.
jr_718 said:
Am still confused.. even some people and parts of the united states people still fall on or can't get pass edge..anyway...
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's because they can't get good signal where they live.
Sent from the HTC Glacier Sense 3.0 using XDA premium app
saranhai said:
the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
this doesn't have anything to do with factory resetting the phone or whatever. it is simply hardware.
hope this sheds some light for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks so so much to everyone who took time out to answer my question, i am no more happier than when i asked my question unfortunately but i am so much wiser and now with more knowledge, lol , i know now what i need to do, get rid of the phone and get myself a more compatible phone...unless there is a way to manipulate or change the network factory/hardware settings in the phone???...any ideas?
Nope. Some phones are restricted to certain bands by software (radio build), but unfortunately this restriction seems to be in HW.
jamgirl said:
thanks so so much to everyone who took time out to answer my question, i am no more happier than when i asked my question unfortunately but i am so much wiser and now with more knowledge, lol , i know now what i need to do, get rid of the phone and get myself a more compatible phone...unless there is a way to manipulate or change the network factory/hardware settings in the phone???...any ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With some God like skills you may be able to remove the HW antenna from a T-Mobile phone and replace the one in this phone. While I would not suggest it. I didn't want to tell you there was NO way to do it.
I hope someone in this thread can answer the same kinda question for me, but in a different way. Right now I'm in the United States on Simple Mobile's 40$ 3G Plan, but I noticed on my MyTouch 4G (Running the latest RoyalGinger) that I am connected at 4G speeds, however shouldn't my indicator for Data/internet connector on the phone read off as 3G instead of 4G? When i ran a bandwidth test on my phone from DSL Reports Mobile Speed Test, I got the following from a 100k file.
124 kbit/sec
0.287s latency
6.72s d/l time
Is that how fast 3G usually is? or should I be going faster? Thanks to anyone who can help.
Hey guys. Was just curious if anybody has information on whether the S4 will have the LTE sim card like the HTC one or will it have an embedded LTE card like the note 2? I ask because of my work, I live in NY for one month, and then in the caribbean for one month, and back and forth and back and forth. My current phone is the Photon 4G which has the international sim card slot in it, so its easy with that phone. Any help would be appreciated.
It has a sim card right next to the sd card slot behind the phone. Sim is removable as well, I heard rumors that sprint was going to weld it to the mothboard. But it pops in and out really easy.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app
spawn11587 said:
Hey guys. Was just curious if anybody has information on whether the S4 will have the LTE sim card like the HTC one or will it have an embedded LTE card like the note 2? I ask because of my work, I live in NY for one month, and then in the caribbean for one month, and back and forth and back and forth. My current phone is the Photon 4G which has the international sim card slot in it, so its easy with that phone. Any help would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes it does have a removable SIM. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249385
May I ask which carrier do you use your Photon with in the Caribbean and on which Island? I ask this because the bands the One and S4 support are not exactly the same ones as the Photon does.
myphone12345 said:
Yes it does have a removable SIM. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249385
May I ask which carrier do you use your Photon with in the Caribbean and on which Island? I ask this because the bands the One and S4 support are not exactly the same ones as the Photon does.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey man, thank you for the reply.
I go to medical school on the island of Antigua, and currently have my Sprint/Motorola photon 4G with me and have had it since the beginning. I use the cell phone provider called LIME (or Cable and Wireless- depending on who talks about it, and it is GSM). LIME operates on 850 MHz band primarily and 1800 MHz in certain areas on the island, Will the sprint galaxy S4 work fine here?
There is another provider called DIGICEL which utilizes the 900 MHz band.
I am willing to bet that one of the devs here will find a way to unlock it for use in the states. Just a matter of time.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app
spawn11587 said:
Hey man, thank you for the reply.
...
Will the sprint galaxy S4 work fine here?
...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That depends... Do those providers support 3G (UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA) or are they 2G only?
myphone12345 said:
That depends... Do those providers support 3G (UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA) or are they 2G only?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would say its more of a 2G speed. But they advertise it as 3G
spawn11587 said:
I would say its more of a 2G speed. But they advertise it as 3G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The answer then is, maybe...
For some completely inexplicable reason, it appears that sprint has intentionally disabled the UMTS 850 MHz band on the S4 (and apparently HTC One too) for use worldwide (i.e., not just in the US as they normally do). This band is available in the a photon 4G though. So, if those carriers have deployed UMTS 850 (as many GSM 850 carriers across the world have) then you could very well have a problem, particularly with data speeds. The phone does not have support (disabled or otherwise) for UMTS 900 but neither did the Photon, plus, UMTS 900 tends to be a bit less deployed compared to UMTS 850 anyway. As I said in my the linked thread, I plan on starting a thread on this issue specifically at some point soon.
For 2G GSM the phone is fine though as it is quadband (like the Photon is). We're talking some painfully slow data speeds on 2G however. For 3G GSM, the phone does support UMTS 1900 and 2100.
myphone12345 said:
The answer then is, maybe...
For some completely inexplicable reason, it appears that sprint has intentionally disabled the UMTS 850 MHz band on the S4 (and apparently HTC One too) for use worldwide (i.e., not just in the US as they normally do). This band is available in the a photon 4G though. So, if those carriers have deployed UMTS 850 (as many GSM 850 carriers across the world have) then you could very well have a problem, particularly with data speeds. The phone does not have support (disabled or otherwise) for UMTS 900 but neither did the Photon, plus, UMTS 900 tends to be a bit less deployed compared to UMTS 850 anyway. As I said in my the linked thread, I plan on starting a thread on this issue specifically at some point soon.
For 2G GSM the phone is fine though as it is quadband (like the Photon is). We're talking some painfully slow data speeds on 2G however. For 3G GSM, the phone does support UMTS 1900 and 2100.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there anyway for me to determine with my photon what frequency the data is coming in on?
spawn11587 said:
Is there anyway for me to determine with my photon what frequency the data is coming in on?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that's a problem because I believe Sprint disabled the field test menu (##778#) on the Photon. Also, I don't think the Android SDK provides that info to apps so you couldn't install the an app that will tell you that. You could install one of the many mobile network monitor apps on the play store which I would think at least would tell you if you are on GSM or UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA. If you are on UMTS on the Photon there then I'd say there's a good chance you're on 850. That is what LIME's "4G" service in the Bahamas runs on for example.
Anyhoo,let us know what you find out.
EDIT: I think the commonly used ookla "Speed Test" app will also tell you if you are on GSM or UMTS under location:network if you click on one of the test results in history. That migh be you best way of telling. You still won't be able to tell which frequency you're on unfortunately.
Called Lime...and the best they had for me was that they operate on GSM 850/1800/1900 MHz and GPRS data. Not sure if that helps. but I couldnt get any of the programs to function to show if the photon is GSM or UTMS
So I searched a bit for information and found that
LIME - GPRS,GSM - 2G:850 MHz.
According to here http://m2msupport.net/m2msupport/lime-antigua-and-barbuda-m2m-modules-certification-sim-data-plans/
So I am assuming that the S4 will work just like the photon, or am I wrong?
spawn11587 said:
Called Lime...and the best they had for me was that they operate on GSM 850/1800/1900 MHz and GPRS data. Not sure if that helps. but I couldnt get any of the programs to function to show if the photon is GSM or UTMS
So I searched a bit for information and found that
LIME - GPRS,GSM - 2G:850 MHz.
According to here http://m2msupport.net/m2msupport/lime-antigua-and-barbuda-m2m-modules-certification-sim-data-plans/
So I am assuming that the S4 will work just like the photon, or am I wrong?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried running Ookla speed test on their network with the Photon? It should tell you what network they are using in the results history if you click on the result of the test as per my previous message.
If they are truly just plain GSM 2G like what the above indicates then the S4 should be fine.
myphone12345 said:
Have you tried running Ookla speed test on their network with the Photon? It should tell you what network they are using in the results history if you click on the result of the test as per my previous message.
If they are truly just plain GSM 2G like what the above indicates then the S4 should be fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry I forgot to mention that. Tried Speed Test / Ookla and all it says in the results history is EDGE, nothing else.
spawn11587 said:
Sorry I forgot to mention that. Tried Speed Test / Ookla and all it says in the results history is EDGE, nothing else.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it says EDGE then you will be just fine with the S4.
---------- Post added at 02:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:49 PM ----------
Oh, and I forgot to mention also, you will probably also need to get it unlocked. Unlike the photon, I don't think th S4 comes unlocked out of the box.
I think the info in this thread is inaccurate. The sprint s4 clearly supports 900 and I called and asked a sprint rep if it has a removeable sim and she said yes.
myphone12345 said:
If it says EDGE then you will be just fine with the S4.
---------- Post added at 02:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:49 PM ----------
Oh, and I forgot to mention also, you will probably also need to get it unlocked. Unlike the photon, I don't think th S4 comes unlocked out of the box.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you greatly myphone12345. For it to be unlocked what has to be done? I read in another thread that I have to call sprint and they will do that for me. Ive been with sprint now for 10 years, so i doubt they would make me wait 90 days.
IamAnnoyed said:
I think the info in this thread is inaccurate. The sprint s4 clearly supports 900 and I called and asked a sprint rep if it has a removeable sim and she said yes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GSM 900 (GSM 2G) yes, but not UMTS 900 (GSM 3G, sometimes called "4G" by companies like T-Mobile USA). UMTS-1900 and 2100 are the only international 3G bands supported by the Sprint variant. That is contrary to most US devices that contain international support (including the Motorola Photon 4G), which usually tend to support at least a third 3G band, usually UMTS-850. It's the disabling of UMTS-850 on the S4 (leaving it with only two "high" 3G bands) that's the problem. UMTS-850 is widely deployed across the Americas, plus several other places around the world.
spawn11587 said:
Thank you greatly myphone12345. For it to be unlocked what has to be done? I read in another thread that I have to call sprint and they will do that for me. Ive been with sprint now for 10 years, so i doubt they would make me wait 90 days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you need to call Sprint. This inconsistency with the 90 days is strange. Seems like different CSRs apply the rule to how long you've owned the phone and some to how long your account has been open in good standing. In any case, even if they make you wait, you can always just keep using the Photon overseas and S4 in the 'States until they unlock the S4.
Anyway, Good luck with your studies! Can't think of a sweeter place to do it in.
Hello, guys.
Who looking to unlock own Samsung S4 Sprint - please send to me PM. I have one way which shall to be checked. I'm still don't havemy own Sprint's S4 on hands to check if this way will works
There seems to be some confusion about this phone working on T-Mobile 4g
YES THE PHONE WORKS!! however if you want 4g you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area and yes LTE works as well.
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
I would like to confirm that the Unlocked 32GB HTC One works perfectly in Phoenix, AZ as well. We're another 1900MHz refarm, and I've spotted LTE in some areas as well. Don't be afraid to grab this from HTC rather than dealing with T-Mobile's shinanigans and bloatware.
I'm in the boston area, which is also refarmed. pretty much same experience as op. all the set up was automatic.
the only thing different is indoors, sitting at my desk which is 3 feet from the window, my phone switches between E, 3g, and H every few minutes like it cant get a stable connection.
havent gone outdoors yet.
Speedtest during H connection was: 104ms ping, 5.13Mbps down, 2.07Mbps up
this is comparable to my g2 speedtests
msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...
MinimalistChris said:
Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP
I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim
Houston Area
The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.
Hello there LTE! It's beautiful to see you on my screen. I can now confirm LTE in Houston
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
coolpkduck said:
The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure it won't be long before we have a radio flash for tmobile from the devs
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
mr2kqql said:
Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.
naan-consensual said:
good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Finally got tethering working by using FoxFi and I get around 10mpbs, the stock one that comes with the phone doesnt quite work for tmobile.
New to the htc one but what is the tmo radio required for? Since it already works unlocked?
If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?
msmith1991 said:
If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The ATT/dev ones are 850/1900/2100MHz UMTS; band 4 (AWS) is the only UMTS band that uses 1700MHz at all.
I wouldn't count on getting AWS enabled on the dev version. It is very likely that the allowed bands are configured in hardware as has generally been the case on MDM9x15 devices.
Joshnor713 said:
Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The unlocked version is strictly worse from a 3G standpoint but might have a couple of extra LTE frequencies (not 100% sure on that one, tmo version definitely is bands 4/17 only). AFAIK the only other place AWS is at all likely to matter is Canada, but assuming tmo will unlock your One there is no frequency advantage to getting the unlocked version from HTC--I think it's $5 cheaper.
If you travel internationally then that's a huge advantage.. but I'm sure tmobile will unlock your phone, if you ask. I purchased the unlocked version because I didn't wanna deal with my uncle (account holder) nor tmobile. Plus there wasnt any information about tmobiles release at the time, I so I hopped on the unlocked version.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
I have the HTC 64GB Developer Edition here in Jacksonville Florida but I only get EDGE on T-Mobile Network I dont know what frequency they are using here in Jacksonville, they could be on 1700Mhz My brothers T-Mobile Galaxy S3 says UMTS-3 and he is getting 4G Speeds.
msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah you guys can actually use this to check if your area has the refarmed 1900 Mhz
http://www.airportal.de/
howardho said:
I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
Sent from my HTC One XL
Same Here I come from AT&T and I dont like them, I bought this phone to use it with T-Mobile, but I really had it with this HTC One 64GB Developer Edition, HTC should of included AWS 1700mhz on this phone for being such a premium phone with a high price... I'm having the same issue with T-Mobiles Refarm @ 1900mhz keeps dropping from H to EDGE, and I just spoke to my Buddy that works for T-Mobile and there LTE will be on AWS 1700MHZ... I'm shipping this phone back to HTC, I was thinking of buying T-Mobiles HTC One Branded phone that includes the AWS 1700mhz Band, but I don't like the fact that its only a 32GB. I'm going to miss this phone. Ohh well S4 is around the corner maybe I could give Sammy a shot.
954wrecker said:
Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
Sent from my HTC One XL
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw LTE yesterday in my notification bar, and that was the first time I saw it in 2 weeks. I always have 4G, but I believe that's HSPA+. Anyone have anything similar, and how they would fix it?
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda app-developers app
QuickSkope said:
I saw LTE yesterday in my notification bar, and that was the first time I saw it in 2 weeks. I always have 4G, but I believe that's HSPA+. Anyone have anything similar, and how they would fix it?
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe there are issues with LTE in your area? If you didn't change anything on the phone I would reboot it just to be sure but it's probably a coverage issue.
I'm gonna talk to Rogers today, cause I should have LTE around my area.
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda app-developers app
HSPA+ is H+, not 4G. Test your connection speed if you're unsure, anything over 10mbps (especially for upload) is most likely LTE. I get around 24-36mbps up here in Canada.
Edit: Ah, that might be different for each carrier then. I definitely get H+ when I am on HSPA+.
8mb/s. On download, I don't believe those are LTE speeds, and if they are they're pass poor.
Also, never seen H+ on my GS4, so I think 4G is HSPA+.
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda app-developers app
The "4G" indicator is HSPA+.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
On the AT&T version, when on LTE, there is a small print "LTE" under the 4G symbol. The term 4G has been abused so much, God knows what it means on any given device.
I`ve got the rogers one and it says LTE when theres LTE and 4G when there isn`t.
Check your apns and make sure its ltemobile.apn set up ?
kylecore said:
I`ve got the rogers one and it says LTE when theres LTE and 4G when there isn`t.
Check your apns and make sure its ltemobile.apn set up ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where are you located? And ya, I have my Rogers LTE and my tethering APN as well.
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda app-developers app
QuickSkope said:
Where are you located? And ya, I have my Rogers LTE and my tethering APN as well.
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm in Chatham Ontario.
Between Windsor and London
I think it might be a radio issue with the stock ROM. It was the same on the S2 Skyrocket, some radios worked better than others. The Radio I had on my S2 when I switched over to the S4 showed LTE in my area constantly. Previous radios on that phone were hit and miss...some a lot better than others. I guess we will have to wait until the BootLoader is unlocked (for AT&T S4s) and other basebands (radios) are released until we can test and see which one works better in each area.
My S4 has a pretty good connection now, but it too shows 4G where it use to show LTE. Like I said, some radios do better than others when handling LTE connections.
So apparently the representative lied to me and said that I would have LTE, but my region doesn't support it. That's awesome : /. Thought it doesn't explain why I had it for a brief period. Maybe it came from a tower with LTE. Weird.
Well, This things going back unless a representative can give me a decent deal : /
QuickSkope said:
So apparently the representative lied to me and said that I would have LTE, but my region doesn't support it. That's awesome : /. Thought it doesn't explain why I had it for a brief period. Maybe it came from a tower with LTE. Weird.
Well, This things going back unless a representative can give me a decent deal : /
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you positive that your area doesn't have LTE? Just because the phone is capable of having LTE doesn't mean you are guaranteed an LTE signal. You have to be within the LTE broadcast area and, your phone's modem (radio) has to pick up that LTE signal. Like I said before, the phones radio has a lot to do with it. Some just handle LTE connection (and all connections) better than others. Radios are flashable, but the bootloader has to be unlocked, with custom recovery installed and different versions of the radio have to be available before Devs can make them flashable. Some will do better than others. It's just a matter of trying them when they are available.
scott14719 said:
Are you positive that your area doesn't have LTE? Just because the phone is capable of having LTE doesn't mean you are guaranteed an LTE signal. You have to be within the LTE broadcast area and, your phone's modem (radio) has to pick up that LTE signal. Like I said before, the phones radio has a lot to do with it. Some just handle LTE connection (and all connections) better than others. Radios are flashable, but the bootloader has to be unlocked, with custom recovery installed and different versions of the radio have to be available before Devs can make them flashable. Some will do better than others. It's just a matter of trying them when they are available.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I live in Nanaimo BC, Checking the Rogers Map, it states that LTE is "Coming Soon". Which is ambituitous to say the least.
Please read forum rules before posting
Questions and help issues go in Q&A
Thread moved
Thank you for your cooperation
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator