HD+, CM10 vs Rooted stock? - Nook HD, HD+ General

I'm playing with CM10 on a 16gb class 10, its dog slow compared to a properly running device (like my GS3 on CM10.1). Before I spend a few hours getting the stock rom rooted, gapps, side loading, etc.. enabled. Is it faster.

oic0 said:
I'm playing with CM10 on a 16gb class 10, its dog slow compared to a properly running device (like my GS3 on CM10.1). Before I spend a few hours getting the stock rom rooted, gapps, side loading, etc.. enabled. Is it faster.
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If you are running on a decent SD, CM10 is not slow. I can't say there is much difference between CM10 running on a good SD and stock. By good SD I mean a SanDisk class 4.
And it does not take a few hours to do those things to stock. Once you burn my CWM card, it is minutes to do all those things.
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leapinlar said:
If you are running on a decent SD, CM10 is not slow. I can't say there is much difference between CM10 running on a good SD and stock. By good SD I mean a SanDisk class 4.
And it does not take a few hours to do those things to stock. Once you burn my CWM card, it is minutes to do all those things.
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Sorry to jack the thread, but what speeds should you be seeing on a sandisk class 4 or any sd for that matter to have "good" speeds, I know random writes are most important, and for some reason I only get about 0.5 mb on my sandisk class 4

tigim101 said:
Sorry to jack the thread, but what speeds should you be seeing on a sandisk class 4 or any sd for that matter to have "good" speeds, I know random writes are most important, and for some reason I only get about 0.5 mb on my sandisk class 4
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Look at this thread. It is all about running Nook Color ROMs on SD and the cards that work best. It has benchmarks for many brands and classes. And is very applicable to the HD series.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12330898
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I would like to benchmark my EMMC with crystal mark but havent figured out how yet :/
As is though, I am using rooted stock 2.0.5 from leapinlar's guide. Its pretty dang fast. A lot faster than was shown in the review videos. Still not up there with my GS3, but about as good as my GS2 was (yes I realize those devices have less pixels to render, but its all I have to compare to). Regardless, its fast enough that I don't ever feel like I'm waiting and it has enough functionality to do basically everything. Thats enough for me to be happy with the device and use it till it falls apart. Too bad theres not some magical way to have this thing run from a small SSD over USB.

Do you need an SD card to be in the nook to run rooted stock? I'm interested in seeing how much faster it is than cm10, you can still access the stock reader right? And can you install paid apps from your Google account?
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tigim101 said:
Do you need an SD card to be in the nook to run rooted stock? I'm interested in seeing how much faster it is than cm10, you can still access the stock reader right? And can you install paid apps from your Google account?
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No need for SD in slot unless you want one. All stock stuff available plus paid apps if you flashed the gapps zip and registered with Google.
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That sounds amazing, can I use the same cwm SD card that I installed cm10 with to root stock?
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tigim101 said:
That sounds amazing, can I use the same cwm SD card that I installed cm10 with to root stock?
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Yes you can. I have the zips hard coded to install my zips to stock. Usually you can't but in this case you can.
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Just a note on doing the rooted stock thing, i was unable to get any of leaps cwm sd card images to boot. Could be my card, could be my reader, etc.. whatever. However the cwm images for installing CM10 did work, so I just wrote one of those images to it, and then replaced all of the files with the files from the image that can write to emmc. Probably something technical to do with alignment but whatever, it worked. Just an option if you have trouble getting it to boot from your card.

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PARANOIDANDROID SD Lagging help

Hey guys i recently installed the PARANOIDANDROID v1.0 for SD haret, as the days went by i loved having the new android on my phone, everything works perfectly the only problem i found was that it was very laggy when opening and closing apps, even small apps such as dialpad, i thought it was that i had bad memory, so i did abit of research and found 1post, hidden in all the millions of posts so i thought id just bring it to light as it worked for me but took me hours of searching so im just being helpful here by posting this, might not work for you but give it a shot anyway.
So if your Paranoidandroid is lagging try....Menu> settings> developer options> Background process limit..and set that...At most 2 processes
Now my phone works so fine, its a whole new experience from when i first installed it, if it doesnt work you can always turn it back
Hope this helped just trying to be helpful to those who are experiencing lagging and aint as up to speed with all this like most people here, please click thanks if it helped
Link to where i got it from and thanks to dimdimdim
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663755&highlight=process&page=11
Only remember it does not get saved after reboot (why?) So have to set again each time
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It's normal for SD roms to stutter or lag especially if you are using an old/low cost class 2,4 or 10 sd card.
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hengsheng120 said:
It's normal for SD roms to stutter or lag especially if you are using an old/low cost class 2,4 or 10 sd card.
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Actually class 2 cards are supposedly the best for SD Android. And when using Paranoidandroid on my class 2 SD card it was fairly good actually.
hengsheng120 said:
It's normal for SD roms to stutter or lag especially if you are using an old/low cost class 2,4 or 10 sd card.
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I use class 4,no problems for me one more thing to do is download Sd speed increase from market and set to 2048 or 3072 this will also help;-)
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New to NC

Hello all,
I recently purchased a color brand new and installed cm 7 stable from cm site. The installation worked well as I installed to mem using an sd card, but I have one major problem...some apps (such as the nook app) have stated that it needs an sd card to install.what happened with the 6-8 gb's of internal storage?
This is not my first time dabbling with cm7, but I am sure I am missing something.
What would be the best settings for a nc rookie?
Also, I am aware cm9 is iffy at this point, but what would be the best rom at the time?
Thanks
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txrocker281 said:
Hello all,
I recently purchased a color brand new and installed cm 7 stable from cm site. The installation worked well as I installed to mem using an sd card, but I have one major problem...some apps (such as the nook app) have stated that it needs an sd card to install.what happened with the 6-8 gb's of internal storage?
This is not my first time dabbling with cm7, but I am sure I am missing something.
What would be the best settings for a nc rookie?
Also, I am aware cm9 is iffy at this point, but what would be the best rom at the time?
Thanks
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Some applications will not run unless there is an 'sdcard' drive available. You can fool those apps into using the available internal media memory by changing a setting in CM7. Go to settings, Cyanogenmod settings, and application. And check 'use internal storage'. That will make the apps think that your internal media memory is 'sdcard'.
However, if you purchased a brand new Nook Color it comes with only 1GB of internal memory usable for media storage. The older nooks have 5GB available. If you want to go back to the old partitioning scheme so you have 5GB available, it is possible. Just search for Dean Gibson's repartitioning thread.
I like CM7.2 but some like the CM7 Mirage rom. CM9 is still too laggy for most people.
leapinlar said:
Some applications will not run unless there is an 'sdcard' drive available. You can fool those apps into using the available internal media memory by changing a setting in CM7. Go to settings, Cyanogenmod settings, and application. And check 'use internal storage'. That will make the apps think that your internal media memory is 'sdcard'.
However, if you purchased a brand new Nook Color it comes with only 1GB of internal memory usable for media storage. The older nooks have 5GB available. If you want to go back to the old partitioning scheme so you have 5GB available, it is possible. Just search for Dean Gibson's repartitioning thread.
I like CM7.2 but some like the CM7 Mirage rom. CM9 is still too laggy for most people.
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Thank you so much for that information. Quite informative.
So whatsl would be the best setup on the nc? I am referring towards oc settings. I have installed the nook color tweaks from the market,but am unsure on what cpu settings to toggle with
Also, any way to get HD (HQ works fine) videos on youtube working? And i can't seem to install flash player trough the play store
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txrocker281 said:
Thank you so much for that information. Quite informative.
So whatsl would be the best setup on the nc? I am referring towards oc settings. I have installed the nook color tweaks from the market,but am unsure on what cpu settings to toggle with
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Most people do not tweak with the tweaks app. They usually just set maximum CPU to 1100 or 1200 with the settings in CM7. Some NC devices do not do well on 1200, but some do. Almost all do well on 1100. But if you want to wring the most out of the CPU, experiment or search the forum for recommended settings for the tweaks app.
leapinlar said:
Most people do not tweak with the tweaks app. They usually just set maximum CPU to 1100 or 1200 with the settings in CM7. Some NC devices do not do well on 1200, but some do. Almost all do well on 1100. But if you want to wring the most out of the CPU, experiment or search the forum for recommended settings for the tweaks app.
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Thanks.
Also, any way to get HD (HQ works fine) videos on youtube working? And i can't seem to install flash player trough the play store
txrocker281 said:
Thanks.
Also, any way to get HD (HQ works fine) videos on youtube working? And i can't seem to install flash player trough the play store
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CM7 does not support HD videos on youtube.
leapinlar said:
CM7 does not support HD videos on youtube.
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Then what would be a good work around then? Because I try to disable HD, but the app crashes.
Thanks for the help so far, this is a nice little tablet.
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Any nonroot options to get play store or amazon app store on 1.4.3?

My girlfriends daughter is six years old, and a family member gave her a nook color. It has 1.4.3 on it. My girlfriend doesn't want me to change the interface on it or root it. Is there anyway to keep the stock software and load play store or amazon app store without rooting? If not do any of the sd card root options make zero changes to the nooks internal system files?
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sfetaz said:
My girlfriends daughter is six years old, and a family member gave her a nook color. It has 1.4.3 on it. My girlfriend doesn't want me to change the interface on it or root it. Is there anyway to keep the stock software and load play store or amazon app store without rooting? If not do any of the sd card root options make zero changes to the nooks internal system files?
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Read leapinlar's post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941858 and learn how to install android on a micro SD card to be inserted in the Nook Color. Use a SANDISK 8gb micro SD card (class 4 works well and is cheap) ONLY. They really do work the best for this.
With the card in it's android. Take it out and the stock Nook Color will boot.
Read and follow the instructions carefully it's not hard but it is a bit tricky the first time.
Good luck!
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sooo, let me get this straight about the nook color...

i did the sd card theory with my nook color. i did 10.0, 10.2, 7.2. they all work great, wifi works, touch works, etc... but am i supposed to actually install it to the internal storage and wipe/format the nook itself or just run it off the sd card? if i am supposed to install it to the internal storage and wipe my nook then how do i do it?
thanks in advance...
wmikes said:
i did the sd card theory with my nook color. i did 10.0, 10.2, 7.2. they all work great, wifi works, touch works, etc... but am i supposed to actually install it to the internal storage and wipe/format the nook itself or just run it off the sd card? if i am supposed to install it to the internal storage and wipe my nook then how do i do it?
thanks in advance...
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That solely depends on what you *want* to do. You have the *option* of installing it to internal storage (emmc), but you do not *have* to do it that way. You can have a dual boot system with stock internally and CM on sdcard. Of course, you can also do the reverse.
Check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25354258#post25354258
For more info.
wmikes said:
i did the sd card theory with my nook color. i did 10.0, 10.2, 7.2. they all work great, wifi works, touch works, etc... but am i supposed to actually install it to the internal storage and wipe/format the nook itself or just run it off the sd card? if i am supposed to install it to the internal storage and wipe my nook then how do i do it?
thanks in advance...
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I don't know what you mean by "supposed to". There is no "supposed to". It is your choice. Run it on SD like you said you did or choose to put it on internal memory. It works either way.
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leapinlar said:
I don't know what you mean by "supposed to". There is no "supposed to". It is your choice. Run it on SD like you said you did or choose to put it on internal memory. It works either way.
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Does it run faster on the internal memory? Not that I am expecting a speed demon.
miatapaul said:
Does it run faster on the internal memory? Not that I am expecting a speed demon.
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Only if you have a bad SD. If you have a good SD you will notice no real improvement going to internal.
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leapinlar said:
Only if you have a bad SD. If you have a good SD you will notice no real improvement going to internal.
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I am stopping off at Radio Shack (strangely one of the cheapest local sources and generally have real SanDisk) on my way home. Not sure if my Kingston one is giving me issues.
I got a sandisk and now it is working much better.
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miatapaul said:
Does it run faster on the internal memory? Not that I am expecting a speed demon.
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As others have said, there's no speed difference and the choice is yours. I chose to move from SD to EMMC (internal) because I wanted to free up the SD for extra storage capability, so moving the operating system to the internal was my reason..
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As others have said, there's no speed difference and the choice is yours. I chose to move from SD to EMMC (internal) because I wanted to free up the SD for extra storage capability, so moving the operating system to the internal was my reason..
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Since I mainly use the SD card to store large books and encyclopedias, I have a class 4 SD. There was definitely a noticeable speed movement moving to boot from SD to EMMC.
Then again, most new SD cards are class 10.

[Q] With bootable SD, Nook Color is SLOW

I finally got a bootable SD created for my Nook Color, but it is as slow as all get out when I try to use it in Android now.
I'm running Cyanogenmod 10.1.3.2.
Any suggestions? Would an older version of CM be any faster?
Thanks.
TheImpalaKid said:
I finally got a bootable SD created for my Nook Color, but it is as slow as all get out when I try to use it in Android now.
I'm running Cyanogenmod 10.1.3.2.
Any suggestions? Would an older version of CM be any faster?
Thanks.
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What brand and class of SD are you using? SanDisk class 4 are the best. Others are problematic. And yes, CM7 is faster.
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leapinlar said:
What brand and class of SD are you using? SanDisk class 4 are the best. Others are problematic. And yes, CM7 is faster.
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Yep, I made sure I got a SanDisk class 4 SD. 8 gig.
leapinlar said:
What brand and class of SD are you using? SanDisk class 4 are the best. Others are problematic. And yes, CM7 is faster.
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I'm curious, why is a class 4 SD better than a class 10?
nellanayrb said:
I'm curious, why is a class 4 SD better than a class 10?
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I know it is counterintuitive but faster is not better for running a ROM on SD. That is because the ROM needs a fast small file I/O capability to operate smoothly. And the actual best class for that are the class 4 cards, not the class 10 or U1 cards. There is an old thread in the Nook Color forum that explains this. It benchmarks many brands and classes and the Sandisk class 4 comes out best.
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
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