Should I get MK808 or MK809 now? - Android Stick & Console RockChip based Computers

I am new to android tv in general, and I am looking to buy my first android usb stick. I am wondering if you guys would recommend the MK808 or MK809?
So far, I read that the MK808 has amazing support - since many developers and programmers have it but it seems to have a few glitches here and there (wifi and bluebooth etc.)
And the MK809 - the latest in the series. All issues on 808 seems to be addressed, but the 809 lack of support and popularity..
Please share your inputs. Thanks

androidtvnoob said:
I am new to android tv in general, and I am looking to buy my first android usb stick. I am wondering if you guys would recommend the MK808 or MK809?
So far, I read that the MK808 has amazing support - since many developers and programmers have it but it seems to have a few glitches here and there (wifi and bluebooth etc.)
And the MK809 - the latest in the series. All issues on 808 seems to be addressed, but the 809 lack of support and popularity..
Please share your inputs. Thanks
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Hi there,
I own the MK809, can't comment on the 808, but the 809 works perfectly.

Hi,
and Hello to everyone.
Also bought the MK809 (T002)
- Runs smoothly without any glitches. Latest official FW installed from mk809.com
If you update the FW dont flash the MK809II Firmware onto the MK809. TV-Dongle runs but some important functions will not work anymore.
Have just tested it to see if i can get Bluetooth support for my MicroBluetooth dongle.
- Antutu 3.0.3 result without tweaking or overclocking: 7983 points
- Controlled by a mini Keyboard Rii mini i8 or the MK802iii remote client app from the PlayStore.
- Runs with my phone charger 5V/1A without problems. But to be on the safe side i also bought an extra 5V/2A power supply for 8bucks.
- Quickly rootable with Zhoudashi tool.
- MX Player shows all FullHD test-vids i tested from blender.org smoothly (Sintel / Tears of Steel)
Resolution 1920/1080/60 using MX players new HW Decoder. Using HW+ i had system freezes causing me to power off the system.
- Cant say anything about digital audio output due to missing equipment. But check the MK809II thread, there is a discussion ongoing.
- Connected devices using a passive usb-hub: 1TB HDD, 16GB Key, RF-Keyboard, USB Gamepad
For sure you can find more custom roms out there for other models, like the MK808.
I also cant say anything about the MK808 but for my needs (as a PC-replacement connected to a big screen ) the MK809 serves perfect.
Cheers

Neptune23 said:
Hi,
and Hello to everyone.
Also bought the MK809 (T002)
- Runs smoothly without any glitches. Latest official FW installed from mk809.com
If you update the FW dont flash the MK809II Firmware onto the MK809. TV-Dongle runs but some important functions will not work anymore.
Have just tested it to see if i can get Bluetooth support for my MicroBluetooth dongle.
- Antutu 3.0.3 result without tweaking or overclocking: 7983 points
- Controlled by a mini Keyboard Rii mini i8 or the MK802iii remote client app from the PlayStore.
- Runs with my phone charger 5V/1A without problems. But to be on the safe side i also bought an extra 5V/2A power supply for 8bucks.
- Quickly rootable with Zhoudashi tool.
- MX Player shows all FullHD test-vids i tested from blender.org smoothly (Sintel / Tears of Steel)
Resolution 1920/1080/60 using MX players new HW Decoder. Using HW+ i had system freezes causing me to power off the system.
- Cant say anything about digital audio output due to missing equipment. But check the MK809II thread, there is a discussion ongoing.
- Connected devices using a passive usb-hub: 1TB HDD, 16GB Key, RF-Keyboard, USB Gamepad
For sure you can find more custom roms out there for other models, like the MK808.
I also cant say anything about the MK808 but for my needs (as a PC-replacement connected to a big screen ) the MK809 serves perfect.
Cheers
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Thanks for the explanation. It seems to me that it really depends on what the user wants to do afterall.
MK809 is flawless for watching/stream movies, while MK808 is more about experimenting with different features / custom rom etc.?
BTW, you got the MK809 right? Not the MK809II or MK809b? (sorry, there are so many different models, that I am confused already)

androidtvnoob said:
Thanks for the explanation. It seems to me that it really depends on what the user wants to do afterall.
MK809 is flawless for watching/stream movies, while MK808 is more about experimenting with different features / custom rom etc.?
BTW, you got the MK809 right? Not the MK809II or MK809b? (sorry, there are so many different models, that I am confused already)
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Yes,
i got the MK809 with 4GB. (Model HTC-T002-V0).
4GB is the only limitation so far. I already started using Apps2SD. Bluetooth would also be a nice option.
I have a 2nd MK809 Dongle here (same model) which has some glitches on the HDMI output. I will use this one to play around with Finless ROM and will try to get my USB-DVB-C running. But i will lose WiFi i think due to missing RTL8188 support.
Will report later.
Cheers

Why does everyone want to load finless ROM on their stick tho? I thought MK809 already comes with android 4.1.1 installed jelly bean or whatever. isnt that good enough? What so especial about finless ROM?

androidtvnoob said:
Why does everyone want to load finless ROM on their stick tho? I thought MK809 already comes with android 4.1.1 installed jelly bean or whatever. isnt that good enough? What so especial about finless ROM?
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Finless is just tweaked with some cool features and prerooted.
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thanks for sharing the experience

it helps that the finless rom is rooted because a lot of the best adblocking software available is for rooted models only. it also means you can use titanium backup to drop any of the stock programs you won't ever use either.
it also gives you significantly more space for apps - i have 2gb free now, where I had ( i think ) about 500mb free with the stock rom

Sv: Should I get MK808 or MK809 now?
I have the mk808b Bluetooth model and it works great.
I've read somewhere that it has a different Wifi chip compared to the mk808 and I haven't experienced any problems with poor Wifi. I've got my router in a different room some 8 m away and behind concrete walls and a steel cabinet, still some 70-80% signal.
It came pre rooted so all I had to do when I got it was to add my Gmail account and I was good to go.
No heat issues, it gets no warmer than my phone while watching movies and during normal play it's just a bit over room temperature.
I use a Logitech K400 keyboard with the tiny receiver plugged right into the mk808b 's USB port.
It's been running for 3 days now and no glitches what so ever. Only complaint is that Google Currents is impossible to read, the text is ridiculously small, but that's not the mk808b' s fault
I got the mk808b since I wanted Bluetooth and it was cheaper than the others.
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I think MK809 is best.

As mentioned previously i now flashed the Finless ROM 1.7 onto my 2nd MK809.
I works perfectly, from what i saw until now.
I have the HTC-T002-V0 PCB with RTL8188EUS WIFI. I have no issues. The WIFI runs like before. Fast and stable.
I am using the CPU1272 Kernel which is a little bit overclocked.

Linux
I just bought one of these, and I love it so far!! I was wondering about loading Linux on to this..I know you can load a version of Ubuntu on to arm processors... Will it work for this?

Mamarosoft said:
Hi there,
I own the MK809, can't comment on the 808, but the 809 works perfectly.
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This is good to know, I have been debating on whether or not to purchase the mk808 due to wifi problems. I didn't even know there was an mk809 available.

Does anyone know how to output raw digital audio via the HDMI ?
Haven't found a setting or player yet that can do this.

What's the difference between the mk808 v 809 and 809II?

Check out the thread about the mk812 it looks even better.

csjjpm said:
Check out the thread about the mk812 it looks even better.
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Yea i dunno. I got excited about the dual core Cortex A9 CPU until i read the tech specs and it isn't a Cortex but an Allwinner which is meh. I love how it says 1.6 CPU then the specs say different.
The external antenna and Bluetooth is nice but I'd stay away. The different chip probably means little to no dev support.
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I'm looking an alternative to a living-room PC which I dont have because I'm poor and so I became interested in the Android sticks.
1) Has any1 tested Flash streaming in normal HD ie 720p?
2) Which one has support for linux? the 809II ? or the 809?
Thanks in advance \o\

iRiKi said:
I'm looking an alternative to a living-room PC which I dont have because I'm poor and so I became interested in the Android sticks.
1) Has any1 tested Flash streaming in normal HD ie 720p?
2) Which one has support for linux? the 809II ? or the 809?
Thanks in advance \o\
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Flash runs great on the MK808 which are the same thing as the 809s I believe, just with Bluetooth.
Ubuntu is coming but I don't see much of it. These guys run Android pretty good and I'd stick with it. Android is much better geared at this stuff and the apps look great on a TV.
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Android on a Stick HDMI USB

Has anyone had a chance to try out these new Android Micro/Mini computers yet?
First impressions?
Would you use as your main media centre now XBMC is Android compatible?
They are the size of a USB stick usually with integrated wifi, USB port and HDMI port as well as a micro SD expansion slot. Looks cool.
http://youtu.be/akp2hYE1dZ0
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-Processor-Media-Center/803232_550274999.html
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-a...r-w-wi-fi-hdmi-usb-micro-usb-black-4gb-141171
It looks nice but a x86 one would be better. I suggest you wait a little. Also I think this should be in android general
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sounds cool
coooool
Answer to the ques
Yh I know what you're taking about , the USB drives are trending nowadays but I hardly can figure out a reason for them with 1.0 Ghz and 512 ddr2 ram which I believe is the maximum specifacion those USB form factor can go. They’re limited to arm instruction set , which means arm software and not x86
so nothing will work instead of android , however I have heard of Ubuntu ARM port.But I believe installing Ubuntu or any other Linux on that USB will be hard to implement
and I think after you install ubuntu you can customize it to make it more like XBMC
They come in much better flavours than those posted above. I like this one:
http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931
It is basically the Galaxy S3 board with extra peripherals, more than enough for a decent low-powered htpc imo. Runs ubuntu pretty well considering there are no open source Mali drivers.......yet
awesome
brutoid said:
They come in much better flavours than those posted above. I like this one:
It is basically the Galaxy S3 board with extra peripherals, more than enough for a decent low-powered htpc imo. Runs ubuntu pretty well considering there are no open source Mali drivers.......yet
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That's awesome, might have to pick one up. Especially with XBMC and VLC for android this would make an incredible media solution.
brutoid said:
They come in much better flavours than those posted above. I like this one:
http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931
It is basically the Galaxy S3 board with extra peripherals, more than enough for a decent low-powered htpc imo. Runs ubuntu pretty well considering there are no open source Mali drivers.......yet
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Still not a bad choice but I want a S4 with Adreno 320
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Any1 bought it ?
Its chinese....
it can blow right on my face
Im just gonna wait a little and see what else comes along, see room for improvement
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I think it looks awesome even compared with the $25 Raspberry Pi's out there. I'd like to get one, but then again I can use my GS2 for just about everything I need and it'll have more power. It'd be good to have one of these little guys in case I went to someone's house for a weekend or on vacation and needed a basic PC to browse internet, etc.
Good find none-the-less.
I've been following these a lot and so far have been pretty disappointed.
There are a few different ones, the best specs-wise being the cStick.
Always Innovating HDMI dongle (only selling to vendors I believe)
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/01...eils-open-source-android-4-0-hdmi-dongle-stb/
Mini X Plus and/or Mk802 (my problem with this company is I was reading on their forums reports of both overheating and 512MB models being sold as 1GB).
https://www.miniand.com/products/Mini Xplus TV Box H24
Apparently the Roku streaming stick requires MHL-enabled televisions.
And the best I've seen the cStick has been delayed time and time again and so far haven't updated their status in months.
http://www.fxitech.com/products/
If anyone knows about any more let me know!
JasonD416 said:
I've been following these a lot and so far have been pretty disappointed.
There are a few different ones, the best specs-wise being the cStick.
Always Innovating HDMI dongle (only selling to vendors I believe)
Mini X Plus and/or Mk802 (my problem with this company is I was reading on their forums reports of both overheating and 512MB models being sold as 1GB).
Apparently the Roku streaming stick requires MHL-enabled televisions.
And the best I've seen the cStick has been delayed time and time again and so far haven't updated their status in months.
If anyone knows about any more let me know!
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I have been looking at cstick as well, but the lack of information makes me consider it a dead project.
I have ordered a Tizzbird N1, which is more focused on being a media player but will have Google Market (with custom firmware) and the possibility to run apps.
Code:
w w w.cnx-software.com/2012/03/08/valueplus-tizzbird-stick-n1-android-ics-hdmiusb-dongle-media-player/
They are claiming that they will start deliver in Sweden the 27th of August (postponed from 8th of August)
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That reminds me of the Raspberry Pi, might have to pick one of these up!
I have had a mk802 for a month or more. Its OK not great. Recently it doesn't want to grab wifi which makes it almost useless. Its laggy and for sale.
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i'm also using the mk802.. had it for about 2 weeks now. didn't do much with it other then install XBMC for android on it. and a few pluging to stream my movies and shows. it gets laggy at times
i'm also using the mk802. und Raspberry Pi
both with xbmc
The Raspberry is for Pro Users the MK802 run without knowledge.
WOW
I think that is really really cool. i could make my desktop and laptop pc an android and get rid of everything windows... hmmmm
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another thing, I have a XBMC on my original xbox, so your saying i could hook it up to that and browse internet thru the TV? i am sure i could do it with the 360 i have as well..
Quite slick. I found this one on Amazon; definitely added to my wishlist to go with a shiny new HDTV for my living room.
I'm also considering to buy one, but don't you think it can very easily overheat?

Best Device there is? fastest best ect?

whats the best android to buy, not bothered about budget as just sold my tablet to get one as i use in my room for downloading films and that, preferably one with 2 usbs so can you mouse and keyboard
whats the best device out at the moment thanks
on the horizonb
Best device is on the horizon.
MK808B is new. I have it - can vote that it is better than UG802. No antenna MOD needed.
UG007 is new.
V8 is new with external Antenna.
Just monitor Geekbuying, Aliexpress and similar sites.
Then 2GB RAM devices coming. Then quad-core devices coming. A15 is probably coming.
bravomail said:
Then 2GB RAM devices coming. Then quad-core devices coming. A15 is probably coming.
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Quad Core devices are already available
i own an mk802III and i'm very happy with it. for what i read rikomagic is the most reliable company providing updates and solving bugs... i just hope that some dev will put some interest into it...
MK808 (Cheap but need some antena mod) or Neo G4 One of the best
Since the OP mentioned 2 USB ports:
This is the only one I've seen with 2 full size USB ports (except of course, Set Top style systems):
http://www.smallart-odm.com/pro.asp?id=2
http://dx.com/p/uhost2-dual-core-an...-wi-fi-bluetooth-1gb-ram-4gb-rom-black-167645
It got a pretty good review over at tabletrepublic.com.
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/uhost2-u2/uhost2-another-review-uk-perspective-3266.html (down at the time of this posting)
Specs look good, except no JB yet.
I've just got the mk809 , no trouble with wifi my router is in another room and I get good signal., device is quick and paired with my Logitech k400 wireless keyboard it make a great combination.
Come with 4.1.1 jelly bean pre installed.
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I did the same search for the last 2 days, I ended up getting the Zealz Gk802, I think its going to be a great device that will develop fast.
Psycho77 said:
I did the same search for the last 2 days, I ended up getting the Zealz Gk802, I think its going to be a great device that will develop fast.
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that's what i have, just want to get JB on it.... didn't have time to play with yet, hopefully this weekend.
I have gk802. Gonna return it. Heat issues, laggy, no custom roms, usb does not work if not connected via ac adapter. Too many issues. I am going to wait fir Archos tv connect or get mk808b.
I have an MK808 and love it. It is super fast and handles games like a champ. I don't have the newer Bluetooth model and its killing me. I bought it for emulators (N64 and PSx) thinking I could use one of many USB-BT adapters I own. But none work.
So I'm stuck using a wired controller or a wireless 360 but I want to get the Sixaxis app setup and working with my PS3 controller.
My goal is to get 2 controllers setup for some Mario Mart 64 action.
The MK808B would fix this but it doesn't seem to be getting any dev love. The original MK808 that I have has several custom roms and development.
I'm thinking of maybe selling my MK808 and waiting. Bluetooth in these little sticks really seem flaky ATM across the board. I have 2 new USB BT sticks coming from china that supposedly work with the CM10 roms. Minus Bluetooth, the MK808 is great.
The GK802 looks good on paper and I almost picked one up but it really is having some issues with stuff. For a quad core... it has issues doing what the MK808 can do.
I might pick up my neighbors LG G2x Tegra 2 phone and just make it a dedicated TV unit.
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Shone1980 said:
I have gk802. Gonna return it. Heat issues, laggy, no custom roms, usb does not work if not connected via ac adapter. Too many issues. I am going to wait fir Archos tv connect or get mk808b.
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Wow, sounds like a great deal of issue.. bummer
Shone1980 said:
I have gk802. Gonna return it. Heat issues, laggy, no custom roms, usb does not work if not connected via ac adapter. Too many issues. I am going to wait fir Archos tv connect or get mk808b.
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We've got some roms over at armtvtech. A little custom with root and play store fix.(I've also got something special in the works heh)
I'm testing the usb fix right now.
We've also got full Ubuntu images.
The GK802/HI802 are a bit new atm. So please keep in mind that many people are just starting to receive them. It takes a little bit for people to get adjusted to a new system in order to make custom images.
I'd say that for the moment when it comes to custom roms the MK808 is king.
I expect the GK802 to take over the throne pretty quickly.
deadhp1 said:
We've got some roms over at armtvtech. A little custom with root and play store fix.(I've also got something special in the works heh)
I'm testing the usb fix right now.
We've also got full Ubuntu images.
The GK802/HI802 are a bit new atm. So please keep in mind that many people are just starting to receive them. It takes a little bit for people to get adjusted to a new system in order to make custom images.
I'd say that for the moment when it comes to custom roms the MK808 is king.
I expect the GK802 to take over the throne pretty quickly.
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Yea I loaded your rooted with play store fix. Thanks for that.
Help choosing
Any word on the mk809 II? I really want to het one of these devices but do not know which to chose. I did see the archos one and i do like the bulky remote for the use of the games. Are there any good game controllers to use with these devices for regular android games and emulators.
Which device is the best, fastest, and stable ?
nefiwashere said:
Any word on the mk809 II? I really want to het one of these devices but do not know which to chose. I did see the archos one and i do like the bulky remote for the use of the games. Are there any good game controllers to use with these devices for regular android games and emulators.
Which device is the best, fastest, and stable ?
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I have several controllers that work. A corded SixAxis and a wireless 360 and a USB PC gamepad.
I heard the Archos is really bad... and in comparison to these Android sticks.... that's bad.
I have an MK808. I recommend the Bluetooth version for more options. Or the GK802. The MK808 plays every game I've thrown at it. I don't know how the GK802 plays but it should.
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player911 said:
I have several controllers that work. A corded SixAxis and a wireless 360 and a USB PC gamepad.
I heard the Archos is really bad... and in comparison to these Android sticks.... that's bad.
I have an MK808. I recommend the Bluetooth version for more options. Or the GK802. The MK808 plays every game I've thrown at it. I don't know how the GK802 plays but it should.
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Ok so any difrance between the mk808b and mk809 II. Ill take a look at the sixaxis controler to see what thats about
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Ok so any difrance between the mk808b and mk809 II. Ill take a look at the sixaxis controler to see what thats about
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There is no logic to their numbering schemes. The MK808 is getting lots of love and the 808b is following suit. Look at the forum traffic and pick.
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I have been following the progress on the development of these devices for a while and am glad to see prices have come down
it would be helpful if someone who knows could compile a table of the various models and specs. Atleast by the naming conventions and when they appeared on the marketplace, the hierarchy from high to low seems to be
MK809II-same as the 809 but has bluetooth?
MK809-?
MK808B-same as the 808 but has bluetooth?
MK808-Dual Core A9?
MK802-being the original A8 1 GHZ Single core version.
tekweezle said:
I have been following the progress on the development of these devices for a while and am glad to see prices have come down
it would be helpful if someone who knows could compile a table of the various models and specs. Atleast by the naming conventions and when they appeared on the marketplace, the hierarchy from high to low seems to be
MK809II-same as the 809 but has bluetooth?
MK809-?
MK808B-same as the 808 but has bluetooth?
MK808-Dual Core A9?
MK802-being the original A8 1 GHZ Single core version.
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+1. I sure look forward to this also. I am already confused with all the different versions and the pros and cons for each.
player911 said:
There is no logic to their numbering schemes. The MK808 is getting lots of love and the 808b is following suit. Look at the forum traffic and pick.
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I see that mk808 is very popular, but it seems to have a lot of glitches, especially with the wifi. thats what really holding me back in general. I am still debating if I should go with the 808 or 809 yikes!

Best $50 Google TV Stick

Here are my arguments for why the MK808B with best stick and I'll throw in some cons. I'm comparing this to the best single core tv stick the Uhost U1A. If you read any MK802 forums, you'll read that the most stable ROM is the Uhost U1A factory one.
1. 1608Mhz Dual-core
2. 1Gb fast RAM
3. 8Gb ROM
4. microSD
5. OTG with cable
6. Full USB
7. dual power up mini USB ports (OTG also powers up stick)
8. stable of TV USB power, my Uhost crashed on TV power.
9. strong wifi (2nd floor 30+ feet away)
10. Bluetooth for only $5 over the MK808 should free up USB port
Here I posted some good ideas on what you can use bluetooth for, but I'm looking for some other ideas. I have BT keyboard, mouse, headphones and headset (mic). I like the idea of rigging BT headset and using app like Robin, Iris, or utter to control the MK808B.
XBMC has a few beta versions that work pretty good, but Netflix, and Youtube run fine thanks to the TRUE 1608Mhz dual core CPU. Most early model dual cores were limited to 1 to 1.2 Ghz. I use ES File Explorer and MX Player to play videos from my shared network drives. I used Plex on my Uhost U1A so I'm sure MK808B won't have any problems running 720p. My wireless network isn't optimized for 1080 my biggest TV is 52" and that's where 1080 starts to differentiate from 720 visually.
I've flashed my MK808B 5 times and I'm pretty confident it's easy to recover from a bad flash. Well I had a "no boot" flash and just flashed a different ROM without a hitch. I actually used 2 different Flashing RKTools and both methods to get into Flash Mode. Easy stuff, give them all a try.
What I don't like: CONS
1. mini HDMI, I would have preferred micro like most cellphones use.
2. hiding toolbar causes problems, youtube, home screen, just better to leave it open and wait for better autohide option.
3. no overclocking, I enjoy tweaking for performance.
4. 1080 not implemented from factory
5. MK808 got 4.2.2 before MK808B
So my top 3 are Bluetooth, stable system, fast dualcore all under $50.
I posted lots of benchmarks on my blog including my modified Finless 1.7 install guide
tabletuser.blogspot.com
Please reply with what stick, around $50, matches or betters the MK808B and why.
I have a Mk808 and I agree. Wish I waited for other B model but it does what I need for now.
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I read that CyanogenMod 10 has support for bluetooth dongles, but I can't a reliable thread showing it works for the MK808. What ROM do you favor for you 808?
I currently have the MK808 also. Only reason I stayed away from the MK808B is because development isn't as strong as for the MK808. But, I'm looking to purchase another stick (I've got another dumb TV that I need to smarten up). I use my MK808 in my workout room now and would love to be able to listen to movies, podcasts, music with my Jaybirds. Right now I have to blast the TV to hear it over the treadmill. There is a quad core stick coming out next month that I'm going to see how good it performs out the box, but it is $100 vs. $50.
The Finless ROMs are the best out there for the MK808s. I think the latest beta has some support for MK808B.
MK808B firmware 4.1.1 by Finless vs 4.2.2 benchmarked
Posted benchmark comparison of 4.1.1 vs 4.2.2 on my blog
http://tabletuser.blogspot.com/ LINK
4.2.2 is up to 40% slower on all benchmarks, but it should include updated features. I'm sticking with Finless 1.7 on my MK808B, but will try custom ROMs for 4.2.2 since flashing firmware is so easy.
I know this is a late response, but I have a question...
Is UHost still the front-runner?
On Amazon, there are offerings from Cozyswan,Tronsmart, and "MK808B" (my favorite).
I see many ads on website, is ths true that MK908 is the updated MK808?
I see the specification on the web, it is with rk3188 quad core cup, 2gb ram, 8gb rom, seems has been upgrade to android 4.2.2 OS.
aliexpress.com/item/MK808B-updated-Version-MK908-RK3188-Quad-Core-Android-4-1-Mini-PC-TV-Box-2G-8G/885274920.html
I have a question about power over OTG on the the 808/b. What happens if you plug in both to power sources? I have read the sticks can be unstable if they use a power supply that can't handle the peak loads, and that high quality 2a chargers are preferred. Would it make a difference to use both ports for power from more common chargers?
I have not had any problems using a 1a charger (I threw away the terrible quality "2a" one it came with), but I haven't really pushed my stick either.
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Here are my arguments for why the MK808B with best stick and I'll throw in some cons.Here I posted some good ideas on what you can use bluetooth for, but I'm looking for some other ideas. I have BT keyboard, mouse, headphones and headset (mic). I like the idea of rigging BT headset and using app like Robin, Iris, or utter to control the MK808B.
Please reply with what stick, around $50, matches or betters the MK808B and why.
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I'm reading with interest that you can use the headset/mic with BT connections.
So far I'm only able to listen to audio through the headphones but cannot select sound input via the mic for some reason.
Can you explain how you managed to do this - I bought an MK808B specifically to use a Bluetooth headset with Mic and it appears that it's a complete an utter waste of time for that purpose?
I've tried Utter Beta and it's utter crap for me so far - I just get looping audio commands from the female voice. Regulat utter seems to do nothing at all so far..
Many of your other suggestions are not compatible with the MK808B for some reason too..?
Help! :crying:

opinions on MK888 / T-R42 Rockchip based Android TV boxes

Hi,
I'm interested in getting one of these newer quadcore Android TV boxes for media center. Mostly for use as XBMC and Netflix watching. This model looks good, but I can't get a straight answer from the web about whether it supports XBMC well enough for smooth video playback (avi's, mkv's, xvids...nothing big, about 5GB files).
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HKPo...RAM-8G-ROM-Android-4-2-2-Quad/1064048320.html
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/T-R4...a-with-IR-Remote-Controller-Black-317424.html
I've heard that some people are using external players with XBMC because there's no support for hardware acceleration with these rockchip devices.
How is Netflix for these?
Thanks for any info.
coachclass said:
Hi,
I'm interested in getting one of these newer quadcore Android TV boxes for media center. Mostly for use as XBMC and Netflix watching. This model looks good, but I can't get a straight answer from the web about whether it supports XBMC well enough for smooth video playback (avi's, mkv's, xvids...nothing big, about 5GB files).
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HKPo...RAM-8G-ROM-Android-4-2-2-Quad/1064048320.html
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/T-R4...a-with-IR-Remote-Controller-Black-317424.html
I've heard that some people are using external players with XBMC because there's no support for hardware acceleration with these rockchip devices.
How is Netflix for these?
Thanks for any info.
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Any updates if this works now?
Can't answer for the KR-42 boxes, but on my X7, the video works fine in xbmc (with an advancedsettings.xml) Hardware acceleration is built into all xbmc android after Sept 1 (actually earlier don't know the exact date)... but you still need xbmc to enforce it.. look on freaktab.com for more on specific mini pcs if you are interested.. the price is right for what you get, if you ask me.
coachclass said:
Hi,
I've heard that some people are using external players with XBMC because there's no support for hardware acceleration with these rockchip devices.
How is Netflix for these?
Thanks for any info.
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Netflix and 1080/720p are playing fine on T-R42. XBMC v13 gotham version 6 beta is working great with few bugs since it's a beta and it's hardware decoding, no external player required.:good:
fingers crossed for good luck
I ordered a T-R42 for $87 USD from Amazon and hope it's all good without annoying flaws. Geekbuying supports it on their blog, and Freaktab forums show a custom rom by "wasser". I'll update this thread once I get it. Cheers.
*EDIT* wasser custom rom newer thread here, his/her 1.2.4 release is there so far. Also found out that some devices now may have and in the future will have a low-end RK3188-T chip running at 1.4Ghz or slower. Here is a "black list" I found on freaktab forums, and it's forum thread here.
*EDIT* I received my T-R42 from Amazon, two days ago. The stock rom works fine with Ethernet, Wifi, Bluetooth playing videos, XBMC ( latest monthly or nightly from http://mirrors.xbmc.org ), MX Player and simple games. There was no root, so I had to install Moborobo phone tools to make adb work for rooting and followed a guide on Geekbuying blog. Wifi signal is good, just as strong and stable as a modern smartphone. (be sure to configure your wifi router to a channel between 1 and 11). I wanted to add some tweaks, so I got a "wasser" custom rom from freaktab. Some usb webcams work such as Creative VF0610 (tested myself) and Logitech C170 (not tested, but Geekbuying reports it works), but you need a good powered usb hub. Those webcams are maybe $10 USD on ebay or amazon. Wasser rom 1.2.4 did not work well. You're device may be better off. So I then tried 1.2.3, and I'm glad the this 1.2.3 rom works nicely with my T-R42. This rom appears to have a 720p kernel so 1920x1080 output is really 1280x672 (status/navigation bar at bottom takes 48 px). My circuit board is B351_V1.0 in this photo http://i.imgur.com/DavJg4P.jpg. I have read in freaktab forums there are at least three identifiable versions of the circuit board in the T-R42 device. One is V1.0, another V2.0 and the other V3.5. Howver, circuit boards with completely different markings or serial numbers are sometimes in these CS918/CS968/T-R42 box devices. Whatever board you may get in your box, I'm sure some someboy in freaktab forums can help or has already solved an issue. I recommend this device, only if like "tv boxes".
kadooosh said:
Any updates if this works now? (hardware acceleration)
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yes. H/W acceleration using GPU does work. Check this XBMC thread for support. and download a monthly or nightly XBMC build from http://mirrors.xbmc.org (be sure to choose the right cpu architecture, "arm"). The latest monthly snapshot should work well http://mirrors.xbmc.org/snapshots/android/arm/
*EDIT* I will return my t-r42 to Amazon soon. I prefer a portable battery powered device with HDMI such as JXD gaming tablets http://www.jxd.hk yay! ^_^
My JXD s7800B gaming tablet works nicely with different games. Here's a demo of Dead Trigger 1 (youtube).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc9oDNduzN4

What android stick / box should i get now? Jan 2014

Ok so im completely new to this and would love to get an Android stick or box for the living room 50 inch TV to stream mainly netflix.
Theres just so many choices!
Im just looking for a good reliable smooth HD playback on Netflix and also playing HD from external HDD would be needed.
Budget is around $80 £60 70Euro
Ive noticed a CX919 that seems good but is there a better, newer stick just released?
Thanks for your advice.
Why you don't choose TVBox instead of Stick, you'll have much more options and better performance.
I can advice you to CS968 / CR11s (Both same), the price about of 65 euro.
Internal camera is not awesome but enough for skype with good light ambiance.
Ofcourse there are other models but I recommend you to choose a RK3188 based device with 2 gigs of ram.
Atleast, CS968 has a few firmware sources.
EQUANCY said:
Why you don't choose TVBox instead of Stick, you'll have much more options and better performance.
I can advice you to CS968 / CR11s (Both same), the price about of 65 euro.
Internal camera is not awesome but enough for skype with good light ambiance.
Ofcourse there are other models but I recommend you to choose a RK3188 based device with 2 gigs of ram.
Atleast, CS968 has a few firmware sources.
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Thanks for the advice. yeah maybe a box would be better as it doesnt need to be portable.
Are they a ll the same once they are RK3188 based or should i go for a particular brand?
christrance said:
Thanks for the advice. yeah maybe a box would be better as it doesnt need to be portable.
Are they a ll the same once they are RK3188 based or should i go for a particular brand?
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Hi,
No, not at all, even same chipset based devices might be slight different than each other, it depends on pcb called REFERENCE BOARD, which released mostly by manufacturer or company self.
Aftermarket manufacturers generally uses that referenceboard for their devices.
And the brands and models:
Actually, there are not many particular brands, only a few may be more.
But as far as I know only Minix provides regularly(!) firmwares and sources for their devices, but they are much expensiver than CS968 like devices.
Of course you can find a firmware for other devices, for CS968 there is Cloudnet and sometimes other sources.
However,
You should go for reviews first, then forums to ask personal experiences to users (examples: here, arm-tvtech and freaktab) then you can make a comparision.
But there is no one choice and not one answer, its up to you to take the risk because there is allways risk.
I hope this answer helps.
Have a nice day with your beloved ones.
EQUANCY said:
Hi,
No, not at all, even same chipset based devices might be slight different than each other, it depends on pcb called REFERENCE BOARD, which released mostly by manufacturer or company self.
Aftermarket manufacturers generally uses that referenceboard for their devices.
And the brands and models:
Actually, there are not many particular brands, only a few may be more.
But as far as I know only Minix provides regularly(!) firmwares and sources for their devices, but they are much expensiver than CS968 like devices.
Of course you can find a firmware for other devices, for CS968 there is Cloudnet and sometimes other sources.
However,
You should go for reviews first, then forums to ask personal experiences to users (examples: here, arm-tvtech and freaktab) then you can make a comparision.
But there is no one choice and not one answer, its up to you to take the risk because there is allways risk.
I hope this answer helps.
Have a nice day with your beloved ones.
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This one looks good. Should i go for it? Seems to do everything i want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUu8VXjzQFg
christrance said:
This one looks good. Should i go for it? Seems to do everything i want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUu8VXjzQFg
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I have it, and for me it is best tvbox at the market rightnow, performance is similar or even better than Tegra3 devices.
I can play a few games with my ps3 controller (aftermarket one) wirelessly, even emulator games, 40 mbps video from network drive is very well and also has native 1080p support.
Itsn't an ultimate device but meets basic (means not simple) principles of a Multimedia center.
I also modded a firmware for this one (2 mpx version).
But...
I can not say to you to go for anything, because everyone has different expectations and view, its your choice.
Success :good:
Minix neo x7
christrance said:
Ok so im completely new to this and would love to get an Android stick or box for the living room 50 inch TV to stream mainly netflix.
Theres just so many choices!
Im just looking for a good reliable smooth HD playback on Netflix and also playing HD from external HDD would be needed.
Budget is around $80 £60 70Euro
Ive noticed a CX919 that seems good but is there a better, newer stick just released?
Thanks for your advice.
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addictz809 said:
Minix neo x7
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If you intent on using the mini PC for video chat, Minix Neo X7 doesn't work properly at the moment. Hangouts doesn't work at all for video. Skype works some times. Lot of people have complained on Minix forum, but they always say that it is a Skype issue.
There are some android boxes now with miracast and I think you can link t.r phone to it? Has anyone here tested one of those?
christrance said:
Ok so im completely new to this and would love to get an Android stick or box for the living room 50 inch TV to stream mainly netflix.
Theres just so many choices!
Im just looking for a good reliable smooth HD playback on Netflix and also playing HD from external HDD would be needed.
Budget is around $80 £60 70Euro
Ive noticed a CX919 that seems good but is there a better, newer stick just released?
Thanks for your advice.
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If all youre looking to do is use Netflix, just get a chromecast 35.00 google play store
christrance said:
This one looks good. Should i go for it? Seems to do everything i want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUu8VXjzQFg
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Hi I'm the one who made this video review and I suggest you go for it. This tv box is the best one this moment and with the best price for it's specs.
marcdman4000 said:
If all youre looking to do is use Netflix, just get a chromecast 35.00 google play store
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cant change DNS on a Chromecast to get US netflix. Thats a big no no.
c0nvict said:
Hi I'm the one who made this video review and I suggest you go for it. This tv box is the best one this moment and with the best price for it's specs.
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Oh really thats great. Really appreciate that you took the time to make the video. Really helps a lot.
I think this is the one i will go for.
Thanks a lot.
c0nvict said:
Hi I'm the one who made this video review and I suggest you go for it. This tv box is the best one this moment and with the best price for it's specs.
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Does it play 1080p mkv perfectly?
I'm having issues with another rock quad core w/ mali 400, the framerate is a little low from usual, around 18fps, enough for the eye to notice.
Pinx0 said:
Does it play 1080p mkv perfectly?
I'm having issues with another rock quad core w/ mali 400, the framerate is a little low from usual, around 18fps, enough for the eye to notice.
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Outside xbmc it plays 1080p perfectly using the stock video player, mx player, bs player and many third party players
c0nvict said:
Outside xbmc it plays 1080p perfectly using the stock video player, mx player, bs player and many third party players
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Does this still mean there is no currently available Android TV Box or stick that plays true 1080P flawlessly (and with 24Hz support) from XBMC?
Many boxes claim 1080P but render using a 720P framebuffer.
Cheers - Neil G
talkiet said:
Does this still mean there is no currently available Android TV Box or stick that plays true 1080P flawlessly (and with 24Hz support) from XBMC?
Many boxes claim 1080P but render using a 720P framebuffer.
Cheers - Neil G
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I believe that only tv boxes with amlogic mx chips play 1080p flawlessly via xbmc.
Maybe allwinner a10 can do this too
c0nvict said:
I believe that only tv boxes with amlogic mx chips play 1080p flawlessly via xbmc.
Maybe allwinner a10 can do this too
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The Amlogic MX boxes I have seen still output 720P. I don't know about the Allwinner A10 but would be thrilled if anyone could point to a specific known box that properly does 1080P... I still don't think one exists with Android.
Cheers - N
christrance said:
cant change DNS on a Chromecast to get US netflix. Thats a big no no.
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How to use Netflix outside U.S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435579
I am a Minix Neo X7 owner since august. So far, their support during the last 4 months has done a good job, the device is way more stable and the Freaktab community has put a good research on it. I personally use a custom finless rom with slightly overclocked parameters, and the device is rock solid, however, no matter what RK3188 device you will choose, you are going to face loads of problems. Unless you are not willing to actually help yourself with the community, there is no way your are going to be happy with it, just the fact that it has a Quad-Core CPU and 2GB RAM makes you notice that it doesnt feel like it's a turbo machine, any phone with similar specs rocks in performance, my X7 beats the Note 2 in Antutu, yet some alpha effects from custom launchers lag the soul out of it.
The real problem however is RockChip, their main market is cheap tablets and they are not giving much a damn for the TV section. They havent updated their TV SDK for quite a while, and as i read, whatever source is out there, it is ICS old ported somehow to JB, probably just to convince people like me and you to go for a 4.2 device, or like 4.1 a few months before.
Just recently a KitKat test rom was made public by a manufacturer who uses RK chips, and the kernel still dates back to ICS, 3.0.36. I remember 4.2/4.3 were released with a 3.4 kernel. I personally have no idea what those versions mean, all i know is that outdated code is being used, note sure how i can judge here but somebody else hopefully will explain that to us better.
Few things i have learned at Freaktab and i must point out, the X7 has loads of overclocked options availabile to flash due to the fact that the devs doubt the device itself is underclocked from Minix. Apparently the RAM is 800 mhz, and it is underclocked to 400 by default, based on chip readings. The CPU can handle 1.8 without a problem, but 1.6 is enough, the problem is, its lowest state, Minix leaves it to 300mhz, custom roms gain performance by leaving the minimum freq to 1200, which i found to be a game changer.
There are ways to squeeze the device, and dont feel bad about it cause it has performant guts, i personally think have hit a solid device when i got it, but there are people reporting the X7 just dying.
My Setup is as follows, X7 with a Logitech K400 keyboard that recognizes the touchpad as a mouse, connected to a LED TV, i have routed the sound strictly to the Headphone jack since i prefer Stereo AVRs, excluding the network connectivity, thats about it, you'll enjoy the device like this with no major problems, BUT people who insisit having DD or DTS output through new AV Receivers, you will face some problems "passthroughing" them.
If these devices dont shine until the next 4 months to their full capabilites, i dont see a point investing on one, but right now, they are all the same, all that differs is support and community attention.

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