Hey guys, got my nexus 4 a couple of days ago coming from a galaxy s3, and I notice that I never get h+ like I used to do on my s3,it only gets to H, and the Internet speed of course is slower than it I was on my s3, I'm spending time in the same places I spent before but the speed isn't quite as good, I asume it's because it's only getting Hspa but not hspa+, any idea of why is this happening? Thanks in advance
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What ROM are you on?
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Depending what ROM you're using. Certain ROMs cant distinguish the difference between H and H+ on the status bar. However, you can manually check via Settings -> About Phone for HSPA+.
I'm using the stock rom, not rooted, I checked and it says HSPA:10 never days HSPA+
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The Nexus 4 is a HSDPA+42 device so you should get similar speeds as the S3 or even better with the Nexus 4 (unless you are talking about the LTE variant on a LTE network ). I don't think the S3 in general EVER showed HSPA+ as those stock devices always showed "3G" or "4G" or "4GLTE"
What kinda difference as we talking here anyways? 10Mbps or 1Mbps? Somewhere in between?
When it's saying HSPA:10 that's only HSPA and when it's idling. When you are actively using data it will show HSPA+:15 which is HSPA+ (21Mbps or 42Mbps depending on your carrier).
The s3 was the international, I'm not from the us, and I haven't measured the speed but I feel that it takes longer to load stuff, and it never shows h+ on top, only H :s, maybe it has something to do with the band of the carrier?
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The s3 was the international, I'm not from the us, and I haven't measured the speed but I feel that it takes longer to load stuff, and it never shows h+ on top, only H :s, maybe it has something to do with the band of the carrier?
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Like the guy above said, check manually in about phone>status to see if you're getting H+ (when you're doing something that needs internet). Also try doing a speed test with both phones and see if the results are the same or similar.
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Well I started downloading and app and it said HSPA+:15, but it's weird that it dent say it on top, either way I feel the speed is slower than it was on the s3, I will test it when I get home to see what's going on... But it is DEFINETELY not faster
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Just got my nexus 4 yesterday. Love it. But the phone is jumping wildly between 3g and hspa+ in a service area that my note 2 had no trouble holding a 4g signal. wondering if this is a Sim card issue, or if anyone else is having similar problems?
Yes, that is how its supposed to work. Carrier branded phone just don't show the change in the status bar. It is functioning the exact same way.
Nothing to worry about.
Just a heads up, the N4 doesn't show a H+ logo but just the H.
Dial *#*#4636#*#* and make sure your network says HSPAP
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It's jumping between hspap and umts. Driving me nuts!
It will only switch to HSPAP when needed otherwise it will stay on umts in order to save battery life. No worries this is normal
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It's jumping between hspap and umts. Driving me nuts!
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Your note 2 is doing the exact same thing. All gsm phones do this. It idles on 3g and when data is called it switches to hspa.
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T-Mobile makes the icon for both UMTS and HSPA+ the same icon that's why do you not see it change. Google makes the icons the way the network mode is.
That makes sense! Thanks so much for the help.
Hey all, I know that switching from 3g to HSPA+ on the T-Mobile network Is intentional, but almost all the time between my pushing a button to send data and the device switching to HSPA+ there is usually a 20 to 30 second delay which isn't acceptable. Sometimes it doesn't even switch or when it switches no data is transmitted, which sucks if you are trying to use sip calling (VoIP), it ends up in a dropped call or about a minute of waiting before the call is actually answered. Does anyone have any solution for this or experience the same thing?
(Even now I can't post this because it won't switch... with full signal bars!)
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My nexus 4 sometime does this, with full bar and the network showing HSPA+, it will take a minute or so to load a page. Even when speedtest show over 10Mb. Other time it usually work fine with the 3-5 second delay while it switch to HSPA+. I test my brother tmobile s3 side by side with my and his webpage load faster then my while my network switch from 3g to HSPA+.
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My nexus 4 sometime does this, with full bar and the network showing HSPA+, it will take a minute or so to load a page. Even when speedtest show over 10Mb. Other time it usually work fine with the 3-5 second delay while it switch to HSPA+. I test my brother tmobile s3 side by side with my and his webpage load faster then my while my network switch from 3g to HSPA+.
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I'm guessing none cares enough to answer. Or we're alone in our own world.
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Fast dormancy is something that T-Mobile uses as a form of network management and also as a "battery saver". This is what your experiencing when your phone switches to UMTS (3G) when the data connection goes dormant.
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I've had the delayed switch intermittently from every phone I've had on T-Mobile. It will come and go.
I chalk it up to a network issue and not a device issue.
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Thanks for your answers guys, I understand it is how T-Mobile has configured their network. My only gripe is that sometimes it takes about a whole minute to switch. Thanks again.
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I have T-Mobile 30$ Prepaid plan with 5gb 4g data and then 3g unlimited plus 100 minutes. I have a download speed and upload speed of 100kb- 200kb. No idea why. I got higher scores on my Nexus One. coverage is perfect in my area. Is it my APN settings? I set it to IPV4/IPV6? Any help:laugh:
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I have T-Mobile 30$ Prepaid plan with 5gb 4g data and then 3g unlimited plus 100 minutes. I have a download speed and upload speed of 100kb- 200kb. No idea why. I got higher scores on my Nexus One. coverage is perfect in my area. Is it my APN settings? I set it to IPV4/IPV6? Any help:laugh:
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i've had this problem. you can check your apn settings here. but when i talked to customer support they pretty much told me if that's the speed it i get then they can't do anything about it. so if anyone else has any more info that'd be cool. :good:
Maybe u getting throttled?
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I love my data speeds on T-Mobile monthly 4G...T-Mobile 3G is slow are you sure you can't get H (4G) in your area. Tmobile's 4G will actually only come on when data is being used. So I suggest browse the web for a little bit and when you see H come on then run a speedtest. But the phone idols at 3G and I didn't have to mess with any APN settings.
Edit: I am on the 70 dollar plan unlimited everything and no throttling.
No that's impossible... I only used 500mb so far...and I have a payment due in three days. I have H all the time. My iPhone 4 gets faster speeds...and that's stuck on 3G
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Any help you guys? It's impossible that's mine is this slow if my nexus is faster
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What speeds were you getting with your Nexus One? And have you tested your WIFI speeds on your N4 are normal as you expect them to be?
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What speeds were you getting with your Nexus One? And have you tested your WIFI speeds on your N4 are normal as you expect them to be?
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Yeah they are. I got like 3-4 mpbs on my Nexus One as well as my iPhone 4. My Nexus 4 gets 200-300KB 3-5 bars H icon. I get my usual 15 mpbs on wifi so it cant be the radio on the phone..
is there a HSPA+ option that we could turn on and off. or is it when there is HSPA+ it automatically connect.
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You can enter *#*#4636#*#* and change to WCDMA to GSM auto. See if that works. I have a nexus 4 and a contract plan with t mobile and I have HORRIBLE speeds. But yet good reception? Here's my screen shot
Look full bars and H
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This is FULL reception. I know its tmobile because I get 12.00 Mbps for about 5min / 4 times a day, if I'm lucky
Have you tried calling tmobile?
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Even after a month i still have these issues. Is this a defect on the Nexus 4? I've had three replacements and it still persists.
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Even after a month i still have these issues. Is this a defect on the Nexus 4? I've had three replacements and it still persists.
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Have you tried a new SIM card?
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Have you tried a new SIM card?
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No but what would that do xD?
Confirming that I'm having the same problem, on at&t. My Nexus 4 gets terrible speeds compared to my 850 Mhz Nexus One and my One S. Same SIM and APN on all of them.
It's also ridiculously slow to switch the data connection on (read: to show H+ in the status bar or start showing the up and down arrows.
HI, the three network in the UK is rolling out 4G this weekend, what rom do I need to flash my nexus 4 with to get it working ???!!....I wan't super fast lol !!!!!!!
I think it's only starting in like 3/4 cities if your lucky enough to live in one of the cities. Also nexus 4 only supports one band on 4g if your also lucky enough for three to be using the supported band.
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HI, the three network in the UK is rolling out 4G this weekend, what rom do I need to flash my nexus 4 with to get it working ???!!....I wan't super fast lol !!!!!!!
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itll work on the n4 only if its band 4 lte, and no other frequency for lte. and its not about flashing a rom, its about flashing a hybrid radi, having the right apn, and changing the phine info to lte/gsm. there are threads that explain how to do it.
Yes I live in London.....but since updating to the latest 4.3 I can no longer select 4g LTE in the service menu. How would I find out if three is using the correct band !????
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Yes I live in London.....but since updating to the latest 4.3 I can no longer select 4g LTE in the service menu. How would I find out if three is using the correct band !????
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for 4.3 the option is in the phone menu, . and you need to ask them what band they are using.
Yes but if I select LTE it just goes back to CDMA ....!? Goes anyone know the three 4G APN details !? What band goes it need to be to work !??? Sorry for all the questions lol
What frequency can the Nexis 4 pick up on Hybrid Radio?
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What frequency can the Nexis 4 pick up on Hybrid Radio?
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band 4 for lte only. the hybrid radio lets you use lte if band 4 is available.
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band 4 for lte only. the hybrid radio lets you use lte if band 4 is available.
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Do you know the frequency ? 1800mhz ?
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Yes but if I select LTE it just goes back to CDMA ....!? Goes anyone know the three 4G APN details !? What band goes it need to be to work !??? Sorry for all the questions lol
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it goes back because you need to use either the .27 hybrid radio or the .33 hybrid radio. google disabled lte for 4.3, and you cant enable lte in the settings unless you are using one of the hybrid radios.
After a quick search its 800mhz band is that ok !??
So it won't pick up Three mobiles 4G
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After a quick search its 800mhz band is that ok !??
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again.. band 4 for lte only.
Anyway it doesn't really matter the 4G chip in our phones doesn't work 100% apparently causes huge battery drain etc
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Anyway it doesn't really matter the 4G chip in our phones doesn't work 100% apparently causes huge battery drain etc
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nice rationalization, but not true. the chip works great, everything works. and since switching over to lte permanently, ive been seeing 6-7 hours screen on time regularly. imagine this, when you download things it takes time for it to finish downloading, especially large files. the slower data speed, the longer it takes. the longer it takes, the more battery is wasted. on lte, i average about 30mbps download speed, so downloads finish in seconds. so less battery is wasted. i download 2gb games from the play store in about 13-18 minutes. the newer lte chips are much better on battety than the old days, better than hspa+, hspa, 3g, and 2g.
How can that be possible ? The LTE chip in the nexus 4 has no antenna or amplifier :/ hmm I'm baffled
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How can that be possible ? The LTE chip in the nexus 4 has no antenna or amplifier :/ hmm I'm baffled
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doesnt need it? whatever it is, you dont hear complaints from lte users here in the states(mostly tmobile) about data signal or data speed for sure. and about battery.
Looks like I'm gonna have to get a nexus 5 then !!! Dam !!!
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Anyway it doesn't really matter the 4G chip in our phones doesn't work 100% apparently causes huge battery drain etc
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Battery life is the same with LTE enabled. My N4 has it enabled my wife hasn't let me to it to her's yet and our battery life is the same, but my data is much faster than her's. I get LTE signal with my N4 in the same places as I do with my Galaxy Tab 2. So I would say it works perfectly fine. Yes I am on T-mobile in case anyone was wondering.
3 UK is going to use LTE band 3 and 20 only, so the nexus 4 will not support it (unless Google is going to release a Nexus 4 LTe version, which is pointless because you should get the Nexus 5 anyway.)
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How can that be possible ? The LTE chip in the nexus 4 has no antenna or amplifier :/ hmm I'm baffled
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Many people are using LTE on their Nexus 4 including me, it only work with LTE band 4.
Simple question. Sometimes my phone says 4G and it seems at that time the data speeds are slow and sometimes it says 4G LTE and the speeds are normal. So my question is what are the differences? The reason why I ask is because I don't move around and the signal keeps changing between the two both with full signals.
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I believe when it says 4g it is referring to hspa, which is technically 4g but not as fast as LTE. It all depends which kind of carrier your ROM is for. On the international ROM '4g' refers to LTE and on my Fido GS4 it just says LTE. I might not have clearly answered your question but I hope I shed some light to it. Try doing speed tests to gauge which one is which.
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Simple question. Sometimes my phone says 4G and it seems at that time the data speeds are slow and sometimes it says 4G LTE and the speeds are normal. So my question is what are the differences? The reason why I ask is because I don't move around and the signal keeps changing between the two both with full signals.
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Lte is faster as you already know. 4g is att way disquising hspa+. Which is like 3g. I think you live in an area with weak lte coverage is why its switching back and forth.
Ah that explains it. I did not know 4G meant 3g on att but it makes sense now. I just think I need a new sim card.
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