Ubuntu touch RELEASED!! So Epic win? or Epic fail? (Keep it clean) - Ubuntu Touch General

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If your wondering How to install then go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159291
Supported devices are
Galaxy nexus
Nexus 4
Nexus 7
Nexus 10
Wanna port then go here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
Hi guys just wanted to make a thread to find out what people think about Ubuntu for phone so they can share there opinions views what they'd like to see our what they love etc at this moment there isn't that much to go on but it I love how it's looking so far opinions will surely change as time goes on but whenever you're reading this what do u think
Here's the introductory video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cpWHJDLsqTU
Ubuntu touch tablet introductory video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h384z7Ph0gU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Here's it on a galaxy nexus the woman who's presenting it is total fail but still gives a u gist if where its at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUh4-nQVWIQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Another nexus demo but this 1 is way more in-depth and u get to see some more features
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le_q7RAAAnE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Another hands on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO7QbCqFY7Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Another hands on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYg2nGZxpsQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Here are the requirements
This was found on canonicals website under the operators an OEMS section and may not necessarily reflect the specs needed to install the OS on a android phone
First tick represents multi touch second represents desktop convergence
CANONICAL IS LOOKING FOR DEVELOPERS FOR THEIR CORE APPS
--Apps they listed were--
Calendar
Clock/Alarm Weather
Calculator
Email Client
RSS Reader
File Manager
Document Viewer
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Terminal
Account Manager
CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO
Official Ubuntu Devices to hit shelves in October ALREADY! suck on that BlackBerry
www.redmondpie.com/first-ubuntu-phone-os-powered-devices-will-hit-shelves-this-october/
Are u eager to see this on your device or are u waiting?
If Ubuntu were to get support for android apps (I'm sure the devs here would work something out) what would be your stance then?
Do u see this OS having a chance?
Do u think a true open source OS can be profitable?
Do you think Ubuntu can topple 1 of the big boys
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Isn't this what the forum is for?
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Do people who plan on getting a Linux device actively use another form of Linux?
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Abe21599 said:
Do people who plan on getting a Linux device actively use another form of Linux?
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I sure would... Using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. So naturally, an Ubuntu phone would be fitting. But it would be difficult to move away from the apps on my GNex.
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cafe421 said:
I sure would... Using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. So naturally, an Ubuntu phone would be fitting. But it would be difficult to move away from the apps on my GNex.
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This is the exact reason why I don't think I'll be an early adopter if it comes to the LG Nexus 4. I was really looking forward to Ubuntu for Android but since I can't run my Android applications that I've purchased nearly $200 all up I don't think I'll be moving over any time soon.

Abe21599 said:
Do people who plan on getting a Linux device actively use another form of Linux?
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The most people are already using linux.....android is linux....
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liawim said:
The most people are already using linux.....android is linux....
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Y do people keep saying that android isn't Linux its based on Linux Google made fundamental changes its not like u can take a linux PC app and run it on your phone Linux is simply the kernel that the actual OS is based on
Phone Slow? go HERE
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parker09 said:
This is the exact reason why I don't think I'll be an early adopter if it comes to the LG Nexus 4. I was really looking forward to Ubuntu for Android but since I can't run my Android applications that I've purchased nearly $200 all up I don't think I'll be moving over any time soon.
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Exactly. Same boat as u. Besides Ubuntu providing a new UI and some gestures, i think, to me, the novelty of it would eventually wear off anyway and I'd get back on Android.
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Looking forward to seeing it's progress. I'm due an upgrade in April and I hope to find an Android device that has a custom ROM running it so I can play
Of course, I maybe really tempted to put it on my N7, but I'm yet to root it...
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I'm really looking forward to this and will not hesitate for a second to install it!
and the leaving android issue will most likely be solved by dualbooting both

Well with all my appreciation for this OS am adopting a wait and see approach
Phone Slow? go HERE
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When I looked into it I thought I read that it was based on android so you could run android apps. Did I read wrong, can anyone confirm?
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No its not based on android it is going to support android kernels meaning u can install it on a Android device also there both based on Linux as are many OSes
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well i think only time will tell - what ya see now is initial enthusiasm and we may even see a port or two for popular devices soon but that's it . If Google brings in some gesture goodness to android with 5.0/klp or whatever its going to be called then we won't miss ubuntu . But as of now the aim of ubuntu ain't to become a viable alternative to other platforms so
et too brute !

I dont think we can call them "ports" Ubuntu announced direct support for android kernels meaning its already there I wonder if it'll be like installing Ubuntu on a windows machine but either way if any porting is involved it'll be way easier for the devs
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Once it's out, I'll get it! Can't wait, honestly.
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My phone (HTC Incredible S 710 E) seems to have reached EOL with HTC post 4.04 ROM release. CM / AOSP development on the phone is very hesitant as most devs have moved on to other devices. I'd like to port canonical ubuntu onto this phone with some help from the canonical community. Anybody willing to provide assistance?
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I'd guess that Ubuntu and Linux desktop application developers would adapt their applications to "scale" down to the Phone UI, then scale up to desktop once docked.
It would give quite a unique seamless experience that cannot be offered elsewhere (Nor android, ios, windows).
And above all, an app market for this would make it possible for linux developers to finally get payed for their hard work.
Who knows, in some distant future - maybe even Adobe will finally launch it's apps on Linux... now that would be the day.

i just love it
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No java code=faster than Android.
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[ANDROID] APQ8x60 Gingerbread Souce code

https://docs.google.com/document/d/...31uj_LrKU8OG0/preview?hl=en_US&pli=1&sle=true
This started me thinking. Qualcomm wants and needs to be able to sell their processors and they are not blind to the fact that Android appears to be the OS of choice on Smart phones and tablets. So I did some looking around and I found out that there actually is one other device using the Qualcomm APQ8060. This device is not a consumer device--it is a special board designed for OEMs who want to use APQ8x60 series processors in their design. This device is called a DragonBoard and believe it or not Qualcomm has complete Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread) source available for this device !!
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In addition, the DragonBoard and Touchpad share many components. The following chipsets/devices appear to be either compatible or identical on both the DragonBoard and Touchpad:
Main processor
Adreno video core
Power management ICs (PM8058, PM8901)
Sound chipset (Wolfson Microelectronics 8000 series)
WiFi and bluetooth chipsets (Both devices have Qualcomm/Atheros chipsets)
USB I/O chipset
This is HUGE news. This means that in theory, the driver support for the devices listed above should work out of the box using this reference build. It also:
Answers the question “Where did the Android build found on the Touchpad come from” ?
Gives us a full source GINGERBREAD reference build as a starting point. This could easily shave MONTHS off the time required to create a stable build.
build.prop from build 1
complete build folder here
Update: I am now working on a new custom kernel for the touchpad called KRYPTONITE. Check out the details HERE and HERE
I have pulled the latest GINGERBREAD source from the Aurora git hub and have built a very preliminary Android image, including:
Application boot-loader
flashed with the command:
fastboot flash aboot emmc_appsboot.mbn
Kernel
flashed with the command:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
System
flashed with the command:
fastboot flash system system.img.ext
Userdata
flashed with the command:
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img.ext
Persist(used for WIFI)
flashed with the command
fastboot flash persist persist.img.ext4
At this point I am simply waiting for my Touchpad to arrive, so I can test this.
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got this in an e-mail check out the link
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...31uj_LrKU8OG0/preview?hl=en_US&pli=1&sle=true
jul644 said:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...31uj_LrKU8OG0/preview?hl=en_US&pli=1&sle=true
got this in an e-mail check out the link
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...31uj_LrKU8OG0/preview?hl=en_US&pli=1&sle=true
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Well done mate We are all behind you, it things like this that makes XDA great
JD
wow... keeping an eye on this~!
thanks~!
So with this image that you built will it work for dual boot. Or in this instance is it one or the other. I know there are a few teams working on dual boot. This seems very promising missing all the apps android has to offer. When do you get your touchpad??
While the Touchpad may be the first consumer device with the APQ8060, that doesn't mean that the APQ8060 isn't very similar to some other devices on the market. All of the Qualcomm 8000 series chips are very similar. Other devices currently on the market that have these chips include the HTC EVO 3D and HTC Sensation. The biggest difference between the chips in the EVO and Sensation are the inclusion of cell phone radios (GSM & CDMA). Most of the rest is identical including the graphics chip and (probably) the sound and WiFi chips.
Some of the developer teams have already succeeded in booting Android on the Touchpad. At this point, the hardest part is going to be getting a kernel that fully functions with Android. Any device that is publicly released with a Linux kernel must be released with publicly available source code. webOS, just like Android, uses a Linux kernel and thus the source code is readily available. It's mostly a matter of making an Android compatible kernel. We should already have working drivers for video, sound, WiFi, and Bluetooth - just a matter of hooking them all up correctly. I think the biggest hurdle now is getting the touchscreen driver hacked together to work with Android.
I've been trying to get a Touchpad into the hands of toastcfh. toastcfh is the CyanogenMod maintainer for the EVO 3D. He already has extensive experience with the Qualcomm 8000 series hardware. Given how far other developers have gotten, I almost consider Android on the Touchpad to be a foregone conclusion - it's only a matter of when, not if. toastcfh should be getting a Touchpad from a donor in another week or 2.
Pretty sure you can get a build built from Qualcomm's source here. http://www.villainrom.co.uk/Touchpad/rom/
That's a Rom, not source code. In the long run you want source code so that you can update it and make it better.
Dees_Troy said:
That's a Rom, not source code. In the long run you want source code so that you can update it and make it better.
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Hence why I said it was a build built from source...
Nburnes said:
Hence why I said it was a build built from source...
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Ok, maybe I'm being unusually thick, but do you meant that you built this from source?
which android you refer to ? aurora got few android
jul644 said:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...31uj_LrKU8OG0/preview?hl=en_US&pli=1&sle=true
got this in an e-mail check out the link
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...31uj_LrKU8OG0/preview?hl=en_US&pli=1&sle=true
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lane32x said:
Ok, maybe I'm being unusually thick, but do you meant that you built this from source?
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Nope. </10char>
lane32x said:
Ok, maybe I'm being unusually thick, but do you meant that you built this from source?
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I built that from source in order to test 2.3.5 out. Obviously nothing works on it, including touchscreen...
Dees_Troy said:
I've been trying to get a Touchpad into the hands of toastcfh. toastcfh is the CyanogenMod maintainer for the EVO 3D. He already has extensive experience with the Qualcomm 8000 series hardware. Given how far other developers have gotten, I almost consider Android on the Touchpad to be a foregone conclusion - it's only a matter of when, not if. toastcfh should be getting a Touchpad from a donor in another week or 2.
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A donor as in someone to send him one to dev on and then he'll send it back after he works his magic? I'd love to have the first TP with Android on it! I got my 32gb TouchPad on Saturday. Contact me, as I'd be more than willing to send it to toast now and speed up the process for everyone by that week or two.
rugedraw said:
A donor as in someone to send him one to dev on and then he'll send it back after he works his magic? I'd love to have the first TP with Android on it! I got my 32gb TouchPad on Saturday. Contact me, as I'd be more than willing to send it to toast now and speed up the process for everyone by that week or two.
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Rootzwiki.com bought Toastcfh an touchpad a few days ago., fyi.
(don't go shipping off your tablet for no reason, lol..)
mazook98 said:
Rootzwiki.com bought Toastcfh an touchpad a few days ago., fyi.
(don't go shipping off your tablet for no reason, lol..)
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Oh, yea? As a keeper? It's good to be toast, huh? lol Good news! Well, I sent Dees_Troy a PM in case he didn't come back to this thread. If he already has one in his hands, then he'll let me know.
rugedraw said:
Oh, yea? As a keeper? It's good to be toast, huh? lol Good news! Well, I sent Dees_Troy a PM in case he didn't come back to this thread. If he already has one in his hands, then he'll let me know.
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He'll surely have it tomorrow, if he doesn't already.
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I wish XDA was the site responsible for getting him one, but props to them for thinking of it first.
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He'll surely have it tomorrow, if he doesn't already.
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I wish XDA was the site responsible for getting him one, but props to them for thinking of it first.
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XDA don't do **** Its the XDA public that put up their hard earned cash for such matters
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[Q] Microsoft Confirms Lockdown of ARM Devices Running Windows 8

If M$ windows thinks its ok to lock there Boot Loaders, I think we need to petition or start voicing our opinions now. . . regardless the fact is, once we buy any product we have our right too do whatever we want too do, root, modify, upgrade or downgrade, I think the problem with M$ is that they aren't embracing the Future, they are fighting it, an thats why they keep getting lapped by company's like apple an google. Believe me M$, still doesn't get the bigger picture, an i dont know if they ever will if we dont start speaking up now. They are basing there beliefs on an outdated O.S of business. . .
I Think they can learn a thing or two from company's like google and apple
Simply stated DONT BE EVIL . .
Tell me what you think, how u feel and what we should do as a community.
This is my response too reading this portal post article, Good info JERDOG
Microsoft Confirms Lockdown of ARM Devices Running Windows 8
JERDOG'S post http://goo.gl/rq4yw
Ah the bootloader, people have actually been talking about this for sometime. Although Microsoft are demanding ufei or what ever it is which will make it difficult for you to change operating systems, they have stated that it will not be used to force out other manufacturers. Im not sure I believe them in general, however as its a hardware related issue its actually in the hands of the hardware manufacturers. Microsoft don't make laptops/tablets. As far as I understand it although ufei will be required for windows 8 to run, a signed key is all that's required for other operating systems to run. Also its said that ufei contravenes EU law and so I would wait and see what happens.
The simple advice would be not to buy a device that is incapable of the functions you require. Dont buy a car to fly to the moon in. If you want to run Linux don't buy a laptop incapable of doing it.
I can understand peoples frustration with Microsoft but I fail to see when they became your *****. I thought Ipods were stupid at first as you couldn't play mp3's, so guess what, I didn't buy one.
You the consumer don't have to buy what they offer you. The other thing your forgetting is that the Hackers will sort it anyway, or have you never heared of "rooting" or mod chips etc. Any security where a key has to be passed from user to security centre can and will be hacked.
agreed, i can see people getting around this in the future, because when someone says NO there's always another one saying YES!, expect hackers to do their part.
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I Think they can learn a thing or two from company's like google and apple
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Last I checked the iPad is very locked down and everyone says they are new and hip. But if Microsoft locks a similar device down its looked at as an outdated business practice. I'd like stuff to be as open as possible, but Microsoft is essentially doing the same thing Apple has done with iOS devices since the beginning.
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Last I checked the iPad is very locked down and everyone says they are new and hip. But if Microsoft locks a similar device down its looked at as an outdated business practice. I'd like stuff to be as open as possible, but Microsoft is essentially doing the same thing Apple has done with iOS devices since the beginning.
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Just cause people say or think they are hip doesn't mean they are, last time I checked. . .
An Samsung mocked them best in there commercials ツ Just cause apple locks there ios means that they are right or m$ should fellow suit. . . And I believe modifiers will unlock, whatever google, m$ or apple, throws at them , an them trying too lock there O.S, makes modifiers want too do it more, don't forget apple now has to acknowledged unlocked pawned iPhones, Congress got involved an I think they should maybe do the same with m$, we live in times when we remix, an personalize everything just because we can. . . an just because they say we cant. . .
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As it was said many years ago and still exists now stronger than ever
"If Man Made it, Man Can Unmake It"
It was only because of the mobile devices that Apple took market share, their desktops and laptops were good but just not up to par with what we were able to build with amd and intel chipsets for MS Windows operating systems. Now Apple has pulled a considerable amount of the computer market with mobile devices and stronger desktops and laptops.
Microsoft wants to gain the marketshare back with One O/S for all platforms. Hoping to up their mobile device marketshare to even it up with Apple. Its a far stretch but they want to keep themselves covered when it comes time that Apple tried to really put on over on them to keep the market.
ARM is proprietary now but will slowly become universal and open, just give it time and keep up the good fight!
hmmm.. well if ARM does stay locked down, do you think Intel's newer low-power x86 chips will be efficient enough to be comparable to ARM chips in tablets battery-life wise?
TeaMsTaZ said:
Just cause people say or think they are hip doesn't mean they are, last time I checked. . .
An Samsung mocked them best in there commercials ツ Just cause apple locks there ios means that they are right or m$ should fellow suit. . . And I believe modifiers will unlock, whatever google, m$ or apple, throws at them , an them trying too lock there O.S, makes modifiers want too do it more, don't forget apple now has to acknowledged unlocked pawned iPhones, Congress got involved an I think they should maybe do the same with m$, we live in times when we remix, an personalize everything just because we can. . . an just because they say we cant. . .
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I completely agree, just pointing out a double standard that seems to be out there. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows ARM gets hacked to allow dual booting to an ARM Linux distro (Android, Ubuntu, etc). On Windows Mobile there was the HaRET software hack, but it required booting into WM first.
On Windows 8 I wonder if something like Wubi could be compiled for ARM and then modified to get past secure boot. I wouldn't be surprised, its amazing what the community can do with open source stuff.
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I completely agree, just pointing out a double standard that seems to be out there. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows ARM gets hacked to allow dual booting to an ARM Linux distro (Android, Ubuntu, etc). On Windows Mobile there was the HaRET software hack, but it required booting into WM first.
On Windows 8 I wonder if something like Wubi could be compiled for ARM and then modified to get past secure boot. I wouldn't be surprised, its amazing what the community can do with open source stuff.
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Yeah there is double standard, my girl has an iPhone 4s, but lets keep that between us lol
But I really think its what you prefer, some like camaros some mustangs....
The developers on this site are great . . . Without them, I would be stuck using webos on my touchpad an windows 6.5 on my HD2 ( using SD American Android build )
You prolly right, tablets might come with win8. But maybe hackers can modify it so u can load android like a program hopefully. . .
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I'm on the fence with this one. I think their logic behind it has more to do with security than anything. Locking the bootloader doesn't stop device manufacturers from just making the same device that runs another operating system (Android) nor does having an unlocked phone that someone could put android on keep Microsoft from getting their license fee since the device ships with their OS.
Obviously it's not going to help make the jobs of everyone here easier, but it's not going to prevent them from getting other OSes on the device. What I could see happening in the modding community would be the opposite effect. Find an Android tablet that has an unlocked bootloader, and bring over the Rom from a Windows 8 tablet that has the same hardware.

Ubuntu Phone OS

So I've Been a Big fan of Ubuntu for a while and I was thrilled to see that they will be releasing a phone OS sometime hopefully soon. Since I have the laptop dock I have always wanted to try to put full ubuntu on it. However that never fully worked on and had to be done on a blur based rom. I love the new JB rom I have on my phone as It performs well. But at the end of the video 21:00 Mark Shuttleworth, the Founder of Ubuntu stated that Ubuntu Phone runs on ARM based chips and Android Kenerals and Drivers.
I'm just wondering Who else would love to see this run and be compatible on the atrix AND the dock. If we still have a decent amount of developers I'm sure this is more than possible.
Heres the Link for the video:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
Just putting the idea out there, but if there are any developers capable of this I'd be more than happy to support.
phone spesification is enough for run and if canonical is behind this i think its possible
I was about to post this as a new thread but when I saw this thread I decided to post it in here.
Happy New Year!
According to the video below Ubuntu for Phones will be compatible with any Android designed-hardware. If I understood it correctly, Atrix last chance is with Ubuntu for Phones for sure.
http://www.androidcentral.com/canonical-announces-its-ubuntu-smartphone-os
I have already said that once before that one reason the OEMs lock the bootloader of their phones is to prevent other platforms to be installed to shorten the life of the devices.
Millions of capable Android devices have already been abandoned due to lack of software support which I blame Google directly to allow the implementation of Wild Wild West on Android platform. The only loser in Android world is and will always be the consumers. Ubuntu for Phones will be the left jab that Google didn't see coming. I personally looking forward to see what Ubuntu for Phones can bring this year.
Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014
Seems BBC covered the story
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868
and in the article says that it will be released for the samsung galaxy nexus. porting from that to the Atrix may be hard, but it should be like CyanogenMod a little. So thats a little boost to say the least.
I also emailed canonical and showed interest in helping with the project especially with the lapdock capabilities, so ill let you guys know what I get back from them, and If its any useful Ill be sure to forward it to every developer possible.
Yes and simply
Yes it's possible for our Atrix, jus read that :
"Easier hardware enablement
We have teams based in Taipei, Shanghai, London, Beijing and Boston to engage with your engineering and factory operations – and their sole focus is to deliver a crisp Ubuntu experience on your device.
Ubuntu has already been adapted to run on chipsets using the ARM and Intel x86 architectures relevant for mobile devices, with the core system based around a typical Android Board Support Package (BSP). So chipset vendors and hardware manufacturers do not need to invest in or maintain new hardware support packages for Ubuntu on smartphones. In short, if you already make handsets that run Android, the work needed to adopt Ubuntu will be trivial."
So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information
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So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information
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Yep, we have Ubuntu drivers but we're not sure we will be able to use them. But indeed the project of having Ubuntu running as main OS on the Atrix is realistic as we have all the material (HW and SW) required for this, if our devs know how to use them, but I think a whole team would be required for a project this big. It's not just a port of Cyanogen, it's not about taking a kernel and some drivers and snap them with a more recent UI and newer apps. We only got a kernel and an X server, it's far enough but the thing is that this X server was published to run on dev platforms. But also know it can be used on an Atrix, but how to integrate it with a whole new platform ? It will require time mostly. I think. And devs. But we don't have many devs so we only have hope. But maybe the devs on XDA will look more at the Atrix and Webtop.
CSharpHeaven said:
Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014
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Actually it's supposed to be available late 2013 - according to lifehacker....
http://lifehacker.com/5972559/the-ubuntu-mobile-os-introduced-today-coming-to-phones-in-2014
The Ubuntu Phones that ship with the OS will most likely be available in 2013 in the UK, and will clear american shores in Hopefully late 2013, but most likely will arrive around early 2014.
The OS itself will most likely clear for deployment sometime soon for the samsung galaxy nexus, as for a universal build I'm not sure If/when that will be available, so most likely we will have to see if one can be constructed for the atrix.
As far as the lack of developers, I fell that any and all developers that are still in possession of an operational atrix will want to test this, especially on a phone that isnt their daily driver and has capabilities of bringing back a strong webtop front.
absolutely possible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
i like the ubuntu webtop, its run smooth and fast :good:
I think the atrix should be able to run it. just not mine unless the new bootloader gets figured out
Well I really think that Ubuntu can run on the Atrix, because they share the same idea, which is killed by Google: The webtop.
We just plug the phone into a dock, connect it to a monitor and that's it. Besides, the original webtop is just a big browser without many supported applications.
Several webtop-mods have shown that it is possible to run a full Debian or Ubuntu Linux on the phone.
And having one OS for mutliple devices is the stratagy that Microsoft now tries with Windows 8 on Tablets. But other than Windows, Ubuntu really got the chance to do it right.
Possible to run, but...
Well, I'm sure, it won't be a real problem to run the Ubuntu phone OS on Atrix 4g, IMHO, I'm really suprised, they used Atrix 2 and his adventages in testing. It's but I'm sure, HW would not work on 100%. Everyone knows, what is a problem with HWA drivers fot ICS+ even on android. Fingerprint drivers will be problem too... the best roms are (at least in my opinion) GB ones. This is the "tax" we pay for extraordinary HW in Atrix 4G.
Another problem in optimalization is the date of release (futher in future...who knows, how many devs will stay..)
This OS already has its own section on xda and it hasn't even been released yet lol anyways u can share your thoughts on Ubuntu for phone here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082789
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Thank you very much for your interest towards Ubuntu on smartphones. We have received an incredible response and have been overwhelmed with the general positive feedback! Responses both from the general public and the industry have been far greater that we expected.
In order to make Ubuntu a truly fantastic smartphone experience we will be initially working with manufacturers who will build Ubuntu into their hardware. We anticipate market availability of Ubuntu on smartphones towards the end of 2013.
To reach this goal, and offer a great experience for future consumers, our first priority will be to respond to industry inquiries from manufacturers/OEMs, silicon partners, developers and mobile operators. If you are a potential industry partner, we’d like to learn more about you. Please register your interest through our web form: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/contact-us
If you are a mobile apps developer, and want to learn how you can help bring Ubuntu to the phone, you can also find more information on:
http://developer.ubuntu.com/gomobile
We are all excited about Ubuntu for phones, but it will take some time to get into the marketplace. If you leave us your email and country details, we will let you know when there is further news:
https://forms.canonical.com/manhattan/
Once again, thank you for your interest in Ubuntu!
Yours sincerely,
The Ubuntu for smartphones team at Canonical
Pretty much everything you could have read up on :/
Greetings to all on this New Year!!!(Almost late!)
Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!
While it's possible from a technical standpoint, I just don't see the developer interest which is a shame really, since the device's only weakness is the lack of updates.
Dav0 said:
Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!
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This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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Hai_Duong said:
This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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You'd probably have to have /home on the internal sdcard to use /osh for installing Ubuntu.
Funny that this is the third thread in the last few days talking about using stand-alone Ubuntu on the device.
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samcripp said:
No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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I mean like webtop in atrix just docking u phone and start Ubuntu version 12.04 and not 9.04 jaunty . And a small question: why does nobody can make it work? there are big changes to make it work I think. Dual boot is without a proof not working for me
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Questions and Answers for Firefox OS

Ask all questions here and answer these questions here. I will add them to second post. Don't ask the same question twice!
Please read read read before posting. Odds are your question has already been asked.
DO NOT ASK IF YOU CAN PORT, USE, ETC. TO 'X' DEVICE. ASK THIS IN YOUR DEVICES FORUM!
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[Q] does this work on my device/phone?
[A] don't ask here ask in your devices question and answer or general section. (If your phone does not have a section ask in Android question and answer section)
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Kobalt.Kitsune said:
So far the *official* devices are:
Usage: ./config.sh (device name)
Valid devices to configure are:
- galaxy-s2
- galaxy-nexus
- nexus-s
- nexus-s-4g
- otoro
- unagi
- pandaboard
- emulator
- emulator-x8
Source: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US...Firefox_OS/Preparing_for_your_first_B2G_build
Kobalt Kitsune is also working on a unofficial port for the galaxy tab gt-p7510.
Gioyik, is also working on a number of ports. You can have a look at his github for more info: https://github.com/Droid2Fox/b2g-manifest
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[Q] can you dual boot this with android?
[A] I have not seen it done yet, but it is possible in the near future.
Gioyik said:
[Q] Will Firefox OS have all the Google apps such as Gmail, chrome etc.?
[A] It will has Webapps made by Developers and contributors, FirefoxOS is not going to work with the apks of Android. FirefoxOS works natively for web browsing with Firefox, you can't run Chrome on FirefoxOS. Yes, FirefoxOS will have Gmail, Talk, etc..
[Q] That's what I've read online anyways... Won't this cause for high data use?
[A] The Webapps uses appcache that permits works and run the Webapps without a internet connection. Don't worry about it
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[Q] is there a way to test this on a virtual environment (a virtual box) or on my PC?
[A]
YaPeL said:
Yes, you will need firefox (the web browser) and then look in the complement store for "firefox OS" is just 80mb or so, and it works faster than the android simulator
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Firefox for Evo3D
ArianaGrande said:
Mine! For the questions and answers
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Is it possible to Port Firefox O/S for Evo 3D GSM?
Already u don't waste time lol
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Will Firefox IS have all the Google apps such as Gmail, chrome etc.?
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From the sound of it, this os is completely web based. From apps to the ui. That's what I've read online anyways... Won't this cause for high data use? People with AT&T or Verizon who have limited data plans are gonna need more data just to browse through the phone...
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ArianaGrande said:
Will Firefox IS have all the Google apps such as Gmail, chrome etc.?
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Phone: Samsung Galaxy s2 T989 Hercules
Rom: Jedi Jelly 4
Kernel: Insecure Kernel
Radio: LB7 Blaze
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I am going to try and make an app, if anyone wants help this beautiful talented celebrity in making it just message me!
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I doubt that highly there's no way in hell this is going to pick up hell Mozilla even said that its not there intention to pickup so as for that Google is not going to place faith in a platform that doesn't place faith in itself
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Q: Does this work on my device/phone?
A: Yes there are phones with a Port of FirefoxOS(Unofficial) and preinstalled(Geeksphone), I am working in the Port of FirefoxOS, see my work: gioyik.com/Droid2Fox
Q: Can you dual boot this with android?
A: Well, the Galaxy S2 can boots with a dual boot, or devices need a lot of work and testing to has this ready. But we can has a reference of work on what with the S2.
Q: Is it possible to Port Firefox O/S for Evo 3D GSM?
A: If it runs ICS and you know C to fix the problem with libraries while the compilation works, probably yes.
Q: Will Firefox OS have all the Google apps such as Gmail, chrome etc.?
A: It will has Webapps made by Developers and contributors, FirefoxOS is not going to work with the apks of Android. FirefoxOS works natively for web browsing with Firefox, you can't run Chrome on FirefoxOS. Yes, FirefoxOS will have Gmail, Talk, etc..
Q: That's what I've read online anyways... Won't this cause for high data use?
A: The Webapps uses appcache that permits works and run the Webapps without a internet connection. Don't worry about it
Gioyik said:
Q: Can you dual boot this with android?
A: Well, the Galaxy S2 can boots with a dual boot, or devices need a lot of work and testing to has this ready. But we can has a reference of work on what with the s2
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I can haz cheeseburger?
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Will Firefox OS come as the default OS for any smart phone in the next month or two or is this an on going project that will take a while to implement?
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Since my version of the Samsung Galaxy S2 won't be supported for a while (if ever). Will there be a way to test the OS in a virtual environment on my PC so I can get to know it better?
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Does firefox os continue build for nexus s?
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simplyposting said:
Does firefox os continue build for nexus s?
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This is from another thread. Also it was quoted earlier. Hope this answers your question.
So far the *official* devices are:
Usage: ./config.sh (device name)
Valid devices to configure are:
- galaxy-s2
- galaxy-nexus
- nexus-s
- nexus-s-4g
- otoro
- unagi
- pandaboard
- emulator
- emulator-x8
Source: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US...Firefox_OS/Preparing_for_your_first_B2G_build
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...I have a rooted nexus s and would like to try Firefox os......if I do not like it, how can I return to android?
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It's there a build for the VZW GNex?
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jaed.43725 said:
It's there a build for the VZW GNex?
Sent from awesomeness?
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Not yet but don't worry this will be ported to anything and everything due to the low requirements to run it
PHONE SLOW CLICK ME?
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Anyone know of any updates or anything new
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Cl3Kener said:
Will there be a way to test the OS in a virtual environment on my PC so I can get to know it better?
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Yes, you will need firefox (the web browser) and then look in the complement store for "firefox OS" is just 80mb or so, and it works faster than the android simulator
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Is there any other web browser's other than Firefox and dolphin..they don't seem to work very well on my phone??
Thanks
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I am still wondering, what spesific spesifications an android device IS compatible with firefox os?
I mean can a low end android phone with 600mhz proc witg no gpu compatible?
megalomanicbastard said:
I am still wondering, what spesific spesifications an android device IS compatible with firefox os?
I mean can a low end android phone with 600mhz proc witg no gpu compatible?
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Google search is compatible with Firefox OS specifications

System Requirements for Ubuntu for Phones.

Was wondering if Ubuntu for Phone will work on my device or not so just startd to dig out more...
Found out it wont work, but then also check out the system Requirements and see if it works on yours....
Found this some where...
Canonical announced a couple of days ago a new operating system that would be available for smartphones, but they haven't really pointed out what devices will be able to run it.
If Canonical wants Ubuntu for smartphones to be widely adopted, they will have to make it clear which devices can run it.
The demonstrations were made with a Galaxy Nexus, which is an older phone. This gives us hope that the new OS will be able to run on most of the middle and high-end phones in production today.
Canonical announced that the new Ubuntu OS would be available in two kinds of phones, one at the entry level and the other one called “High-end superphone."
The hardware requirements are quite acceptable. The Entry level Ubuntu smartphone needs to have at least a 1Ghz Cortex A9 (single core as the bare minimum), 512MB or 1GB memory, a 4-8GB eMMC + SD for storage, and Multi-touch capability.
The high-end Ubuntu "superphone" is a little more demanding and will need at least Quad-core A9 or Intel Atom processors, minimum 1GB for memory, minimum 32GB eMMC + SD for storage, and Multi-touch.
The difference between the two models will consist in what Canonical calls “Desktop convergence.” With the help of a dock and a monitor, the high-end Ubuntu "superphone" can be turned into a thin client for Ubuntu.
“We’re shaping the future of personal computing. Ubuntu is proven on the desktop, and uniquely positioned to be at the heart of the next wave of consumer electronics, combining a beautiful hand-held touch interface with a full PC experience when docked,“ stated Mark Shuttleworth, founder of Ubuntu and VP Products at Canonical.
The new Ubuntu OS for smartphones seem to be exactly what the mobile market needs right now, and that is a new experience. Whether it will be successful or not depends on the companies that will want to adopt the OS and sell it with their devices.
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Awesome, even my crappy phone will be able to run it.
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Then Ubuntu doesn't work on air tab m91
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They shold make it work on dual core ones to. Since there still are many dualcore users out there. And ubuntu works on wery crappy puters... and others made older versions that works om cells.
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Those specs u quoted were found under the operators and OEMs section of canonicals website and may not reflect the requirements for installation on a android phone also the specs were already quoted
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083346
And here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082789
No need to make a whole tread for this
Hm my 3vo is overcloked to 2.1Gh 32Gb of sdcard and multiboot tish will run as hell.
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Probably my Galaxy S1 Plus has no chance for ubuntu...
mastigos said:
Probably my Galaxy S1 Plus has no chance for ubuntu...
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Hummingbird is A8 so there's a chance it won't work.
Hoping they get it up for epic 4g touch
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can i install this on my acro s ?
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What is your opinion on the likelihood they will support the Nexus 4? I know they are launching with initial support for the Galaxy Nexus, so I would think the Nexus 4 may be the 2nd.
good info, thank you very much.
manan.dope said:
Was wondering if Ubuntu for Phone will work on my device or not so just startd to dig out more...
Found out it wont work, but then also check out the system Requirements and see if it works on yours....
Found this some where...
and also Check out this.,...
Ubuntu for Phones
Press thanks if this helped you...
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sir plz list out the phone device that will be support Ubuntu software ????
sry for my bad english
this is just a request
rahulk23 said:
sir plz list out the phone device that will be support Ubuntu software ????
sry for my bad english
this is just a request
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I cannot list all the phones...
You check the system requirements in the link provided
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The main reason why I bought Nexus 4 was to run Ubuntu ....but becoming aware that the Nexus 4 will not run as a Superphone
...that really sucks ...sold the Nexus 4 ....Gonna put the money back in for the GS4 when its out
How do you mean the Nexus 4 will not run as a "Superphone"?
MeMoM&aVirusTI said:
The main reason why I bought Nexus 4 was to run Ubuntu ....but becoming aware that the Nexus 4 will not run as a Superphone
...that really sucks ...sold the Nexus 4 ....Gonna put the money back in for the GS4 when its out
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WTH are you talking about?
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You dudes can't read the requirements ....quad core /min 32gb storage ...sorry but Nexus 4 is not going to be an Ubuntu Superphone out of the box
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Sorry dudes ...I am subscribed to 4 threads regarding Ubuntu ...dont pay attention to the Nexus 4 stuff :silly:
Lmao this thing is not clear those specs were found under the operators and OEMs section of canonicals website and may have absolutely nothing to do with the actual specs required for running ubuntu hence my earlier objection to the creation of a thread that states something that may or may not be the specs without specifying so when there are already to two threads created that do
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I wish its like how you say my friend ..really !
...but the requirements follow exactly this 360 % turn the mobile industry has suddenly taken
Samsung has totally set the standard with the new Octa CPU / YOUM & increased Storage ....Samsung / YOUM series devices will follow the Ubuntu qualifications out of the box .....the storage limit is not going to change dude ....its simple math ..there is not enough space to store everything ....it needs to be 32 GB
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The forum should follow the Ubuntu model/concept ...Ubuntu Phone OS & Ubuntu Superphone Device
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The only OEM at the moment that still has EXT Storage is Samsung
LG.. Motorola ..Google ..Nokia ..cut it out !......does HTC still have ext storage ? ...or is it HTC does & Nokia doesn't ..I am confused ...lol
Its rediculous !

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