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This Tablet Im looking at costs the same and has twice the features. Granted the processor isnt quite as strong. But wouldnt this have been a nice alternative to what I bought I think after christmas once I can save some money I might pick one of these babies up its called theKobo Vox. If anyone does pick one up as an alternative, Let me know how it runs I would like to know wether or not its worth it. I would post the link but It wont let me because I dont have that ability yet. Im working though trust me.
It has a slower processor, but it has an sd card slot. What are these other features that the Fire lacks?
Was just looking at specs and think I would rather stay with the kindle fire
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This Tablet Im looking at costs the same and has twice the features. Granted the processor isnt quite as strong. But wouldnt this have been a nice alternative to what I bought I think after christmas once I can save some money I might pick one of these babies up its called theKobo Vox. If anyone does pick one up as an alternative, Let me know how it runs I would like to know wether or not its worth it. I would post the link but It wont let me because I dont have that ability yet. Im working though trust me.
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How is the kobo vox better than the nook color (which at least has a small developer community)?
Don't get me wrong, I would like to see kobo/borders succeed (ie I was at some point interested in buying one of their eInk readers), but the kobo vox (like the eInk device I was interested in) was too little too late.
12 months ago the Kobo Vox might have had a chance ... now though?
Nook Tablet cant even get kexec because they have a locked and signed bootloader. Meaning no chance for custom kernels or a way to load a custom kernel on top of the standard one. The Kobo Vox has volume buttons. which is nice. easier recovery navigation/button combos
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It has a slower processor, but it has an sd card slot. What are these other features that the Fire lacks?
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It also has a camera and It seems to have volume buttons also physical navigation menu.
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Nook Tablet cant even get kexec because they have a locked and signed bootloader. Meaning no chance for custom kernels or a way to load a custom kernel on top of the standard one. The Kobo Vox has volume buttons. which is nice. easier recovery navigation/button combos
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How is the kobo vox better than the nook color (which at least has a small developer community)?
Don't get me wrong, I would like to see kobo/borders succeed (ie I was at some point interested in buying one of their eInk readers), but the kobo vox (like the eInk device I was interested in) was too little too late.
12 months ago the Kobo Vox might have had a chance ... now though?
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The VOX already has hardware features that the kindle and nook are both lacking. Also, it is running almost clean android so its a familiar interface we all know. Granted if this tablet survives (which I hope it does) The next logical step would be huge updates to the processor and ram in the device. while the nook and kindle both would have minor adjustments to the processor and ram and adding features that should have been included in the initial release. I do love my Kindle don't get me wrong I feel like the community here can do some great things with it but its just lacking some major features and Amazon came on a little apple-esque with it. It felt like if there was no root it was almost entirely proprietary.
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It also has a camera and It seems to have volume buttons also physical navigation menu.
The VOX already has hardware features that the kindle and nook are both lacking. Also, it is running almost clean android so its a familiar interface we all know. Granted if this tablet survives (which I hope it does) The next logical step would be huge updates to the processor and ram in the device. while the nook and kindle both would have minor adjustments to the processor and ram and adding features that should have been included in the initial release. I do love my Kindle don't get me wrong I feel like the community here can do some great things with it but its just lacking some major features and Amazon came on a little apple-esque with it. It felt like if there was no root it was almost entirely proprietary.
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Reading comprehension = zero.
It is essentially the SAME HARDWARE as the Nook COLOR!!!!!! But without a dev community.
Too little, too late.
I think the biggest advantage the Fire has over this device (and many others) is the sheer number of them on the market.
Many of the (real, lol) developers I know are getting orders for applications directed at the Fire. With the amount of market segmentation for android devices, finding a 'target' is a big deal for people.
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Reading comprehension = zero.
It is essentially the SAME HARDWARE as the Nook COLOR!!!!!! But without a dev community.
Too little, too late.
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Only way to get a nook color outside the US is importing it afaik
This is the same price (against the price charged by an importer) and you can just buy it on the high street (UK).
unrandomsam said:
Only way to get a nook color outside the US is importing it afaik
This is the same price (against the price charged by an importer) and you can just buy it on the high street (UK).
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Which still proves my point: same price, same hardware but no dev community.
And the OP seems to be from Canada ... where he can get the Nook Color for $150 or less (depending on the available deals).
Hi Devs,
I've just rooted my friends Kindle Fire and successfully installed the Android market. She forwarded an article from the internet that stated that someone had successfully ported the Nook Color Rom onto a Kindle Fire.
Is it possible? And if so where I can find the Modded Rom.
Thanks in advance for enlightenment.
Proud Gtab owner!
Link the article, I'm curious.
Check here for all development for the Kindle Fire, regardless.
And as a final note, why would you want to do this? Just get the Nook Color...
Lies. Only rom so far is a very alpha Cyanogenmod 7.
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Link the article, I'm curious.
Check here for all development for the Kindle Fire, regardless.
And as a final note, why would you want to do this? Just get the Nook Color...
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The owner wanted the mod.
Thanks.
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Link the article, I'm curious.
Check here for all development for the Kindle Fire, regardless.
And as a final note, why would you want to do this? Just get the Nook Color...
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Here is the URL to the article on porting Nook to Fire. Would love to hear any views on this topic.
http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/kindle-fire-hacked-to-access-android-market-20111117/
2 weeks ago at DC Public, their IT folks managed to change a Nook Color into a Kindle Fire and are working to change a Kindle into a Nook ...
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Here is the URL to the article on porting Nook to Fire. Would love to hear any views on this topic.
http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/kindle-fire-hacked-to-access-android-market-20111117/
2 weeks ago at DC Public, their IT folks managed to change a Nook Color into a Kindle Fire and are working to change a Kindle into a Nook ...
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Where in this article is there any mention of porting the Nook to the Fire? This is an old article that only relates to getting google market and other google apps running on it.
Considering that the main benefits to having a Nook over a Fire relate to hardware (more internal storage, slightly better display, etc), this seems like an odd request that's not worth the trouble, essentially moving from one walled garden to another.
Rad3,
First, thanks for confirming that I'm crazy for telling my co-worker that the idea is not of much benefit. Second, I think she just wants to take a cheap tablet and run it like a more expensive one. And Finally, I just cut and pasted the e-mail verbatum with her comment included.
I didn't see anywhere in the artical where it stated that the conversion was possible either but her statement which I included was what sparked my request for information.
Thanks again. If the question comes up again I can offer to flash CM7 but that's it.
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Rad3,
First, thanks for confirming that I'm crazy for telling my co-worker that the idea is not of much benefit. Second, I think she just wants to take a cheap tablet and run it like a more expensive one. And Finally, I just cut and pasted the e-mail verbatum with her comment included.
I didn't see anywhere in the artical where it stated that the conversion was possible either but her statement which I included was what sparked my request for information.
Thanks again. If the question comes up again I can offer to flash CM7 but that's it.
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Understand - though again the differences between the 'cheap' tablet and the 'more expensive' one lie in either hardware or the inability to subsidize as much, making the Nook more expensive. Once you get past hardware, I'd trend to think that you get more with the Kindle Fire.
Oh well...
I am interested in the Kindle Fire and wanted to know what you guys feel about it. I want a tablet but dont want to break the bank and I also want to be able to put ICS on it. Is the Kindle Fire a good choice?
I was also wondering if you guys would recommend the KF over a windows tablet? I wanted to see what you guys think. Thanks in advance!
Let's put it this way... you'd have to GIVE me a Windows tablet in order for me to have one because I'd never spend money for it.
M$ may have good apps (Office suite), but I'm still not convinced that they have a good OS, something about reinventing the wheel. Give me a unix-flavored OS any day over Windows.
I'm obviously biased.
I dont mind biased answers lol! Doyou have a KF?
Yes, sorry, should have mentioned that I guess.
I purchased it around the new year and put ICS on it about a month ago and I'm not looking back. Yes there are still some issues (HW accel - related), but I don't have a need for that currently, so it's not bothering me.
I can't comment on the windows tablets, but the KF is a great device that is getting a lot of 3rd party development support behind it. It doesn't have loads of memory or storage capacity, but it's done everything I'd want it to do and then some. If you want an ICS tablet, is there really any competition at the $200 price point?
Isn't asus memo coming out soon for 250$
Just buy a kindle and then sell it when memo comes
Thank you for the replies! I ordered a KF last night on amazon.
I think you will like it. I have both a KF and a windows tablet (HP).
So I am wanting to purchase my first tablet. I so far am very impressed with the dev society for the KF. I haven't done alot of digging but the Roms look very impressive. Also haveing cwm and that other recovery is great. One big thing, after rooting can you do anything with the KF that you can with most other tablets? Does it do Flash? I assume that once you get google play on there that you can put on all of your bought apps and such. I am pretty excited but want to get a good tablet for the whole family. Thanks so much.
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Dude u should wait for the nexus tablet or the Asus memo those are both 200 and 250 and have more to offer than the kindle. Either way u can't go wrong I love my kindle fire
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Yes after rooting u could do whatever, so far flash is supported on stock, cm7 and 2.3 roms , and soon to be stable with cm9 and 4.0 roms. Google play is working perfectly too but some gameloft games don't work
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You can't go wrong with a kindle fire. First and foremost it's an E-reader then a tablet in my opinion (which is not meant to take anything away from the device) . The Kindle reading app blows any other reading app out of the water. Add that onto all the hard work the devs have put in and you have a huge array of different add ons and directions you can go with your Fire. Plus amazon customer support I have found to be awesome. I had a problem with my unit charging, i called them on a saturday and I had my new kindle on monday. I'm guessing we might see a reduction in cost in the next few months as amazon is likely to announce their new line of e-reader/tablet.
Since each individual case is not the same. It is important to weigh the pros and cons yourself. If you are willing to ignore the cons then it's an easy choice.
Pros: Android (read: customizability), price, customer support, Amazon catalogue, XDA community support (a huge consideration for me), etc.
Cons: KF has no mic or camera or memory card slot and has only 512mb RAM.
So if you don't care about the cons or can live without them then, at this price point, it is a no-brainer.
Personally, I whole-heartedly recommend it!
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If you want a cheap tablet that you can make not so cheap, then yes. But you'll have to do a little work, and it's not for the faint at heart.
If you want a good tablet straight out of the box, you'd be better off going with something else. Stock Kindle Fire OS is buggy and kind of annoying. And it's nearly impossible to customize.
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I agree with all the other posters above me.
The KF is VERY easily rooted, which opens up both great opportunities for modding and an unfortunate can of worms for idiots who jump in headfirst without understanding what they're doing.
At this point if you were interested I'd just buy it used. That and read up on the rooting process, what a bootloader/recovery is, AND HOW TO CONTROL THEM VIA ADB/FASTBOOT. You can see the # of "bricked" threads, which are purely from the lack of understanding the above.
I agree with all those who have already posted, I would just caution you that if your looking for a tablet that you can root and then flash and jump into a stable custom rom the Kindle Fire isn't there yet, it's almost there but not completely. Hashcode just pushed out his new 3.0 kernel and it is almost perfect but has some issues. If you're looking for a tablet that your willing to work with and possibly reflash daily then go for the Kindle Fire, it's a great tablet to learn with since it's being heavily developed right now, however if you want more stability i'd wait for the google tab or go with an older tablet.
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... and then flash and jump into a stable custom rom the Kindle Fire isn't there yet ...
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I, as everybody else, am also eagerly waiting for ICS - but saying there are no stable ROMs is incorrect. I'm running CM7 since ages with zero issues on two KFs.
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At this point if you were interested I'd just buy it used.
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forget used, get a refurb from Amazon for $170.
Kindle Fire was my first tablet and I love it!
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Kindle Fire was my first tablet and I love it!
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Yup, and it's way more fun since ditching the Amazon software for ICS ROMs.
Get it! Cheap, and will only get cheaper! Plus, the hacktivity on xda is enormous!
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Picked mine up when they had the refurbs on sale for $139. Love it to death. Very easy to root and install Roms with thanks to XDA.
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I like the Fire so much I just bought another one for a family member. About to flash ICS and hopefully never go back to stock.
Thankyou to everyone who posted. I do see the kindle fire as a good solid option and I love the dev community you guys have built here. I really think you guys have somthing special going on here. However I think I may be tempted by the Nook Tablet. After you root it and repartition the Hard Drive. You have way more space than the kf. The Nook also has an SD slot. The display is a little better as well. IT also has a gig of memory vs the KF 512. So I think ima go with it. I tell ya this though I sure would have enjoyed the society here. You guys seem to be top notch. THANKS FOR YALLS HELP
Hope y'all have a good one.
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If youplan on rooting go with the fire if not get the galaxy's tab. I on my kf right now by the way and it has built in flash that works great!
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Oh and I enjoy the dev work also thanks devs hey what ever happened to Geo httoz speaking of developers we are anoyamos we are piton what the heck is that and anoumos is slept worng great now I cant spell well cool anoumos crap I think ill just leave it there to!
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Oh and I enjoy the dev work also thanks devs hey what ever happened to Geo httoz speaking of developers we are anoyamos we are piton what the heck is that and anoumos is slept worng great now I cant spell well cool anoumos crap I think ill just leave it there to!
Nook Color better, IMO, than Kindle Fire.
I'd recommend the Nook Color over the Kindle Fire. The main difference, aside from the fact that it's a bit cheaper, is that it has an SDcard slot that not only provides up to 32GB of extra space, but allows you to boot from ROMs on the card without altering the Nook itself. This also makes it a lot harder to brick, or easier to unbrick, than the Fire. You can, of course, put ROMs on the internal memory, just as you can with the Fire. Look at the Nook Color forum on this site for more info.
The Nook Tablet is another matter. I don't know much about it, but I understand that B&N has made it a lot harder to hack than the Nook Color, You can check the forum for the Nook Tablet here on xda to see how much success devs have had so far with overcoming its protections.
nook color.is.nothing in front of kindle.fire.and nook tablet is same like kindle.fire but with sd card slot and cheap build quality i have used both and kindle is like solid metal and nook tablet is like cheap plastic
now kernel 3.0 is supporting otg and u can connect usb drives and hard drives with it
so go for kindle fire u will not regret
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I love the KF (granted, it's my first tablet experience), I bought one new and another for my son off of Craigslist. Flashed them both and haven't looked back.
As some know today the kindle Fire HDX has been revealed.
Amazon thing is that it has super powerful hardware.
At 2.2 GHz
2 GB of RAM
Front and Back Cameras
This will certainly will be Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD killer.
I made this thread up for discussions. What do you guys think of this new tablet and do you think you will buy it, because the price is just Amazing!! May even be better than the Nexus 7 FHD.....
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As some know today the kindle Fire HDX has been revealed.
Amazon thing is that it has super powerful hardware.
At 2.2 GHz
2 GB of RAM
Front and Back Cameras
This will certainly will be Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD killer.
I made this thread up for discussions. What do you guys think of this new tablet and do you think you will buy it, because the price is just Amazing!! May even be better than the Nexus 7 FHD.....
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It is very likely that Amazon has learned from their mistakes, and the next generation of KFs won't be as "easy" to crack. The Original KF forums are still just as active as they were before the 2nd gen devices came out, so I don't think there will be any shortage of development for either any time soon.
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It is very likely that Amazon has learned from their mistakes, and the next generation of KFs won't be as "easy" to crack. The Original KF forums are still just as active as they were before the 2nd gen devices came out, so I don't think there will be any shortage of development for either any time soon.
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Yeah, but probably Amazon might be open development now. Most OEMs are now having Unlockable BLs. Hopefully, this is the same case for amazon. But that might not be a good strategy if they want to make money through the HDX. But let's accept it, things like the Amazon Appstore suck.
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Even though now I am using Nexus 7 2013 32gb model but when amazon announce new kindle fire HDX, I feel I will take this one.
When cyanogenmod arrived in this HDX,it will be perfect
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Yeah, but probably Amazon might be open development now. Most OEMs are now having Unlockable BLs. Hopefully, this is the same case for amazon. But that might not be a good strategy if they want to make money through the HDX. But let's accept it, things like the Amazon Appstore suck.
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I have my doubts that they are open to development mainly because of the article posted in the HD 7” general forums, it said amazon was roughly breaking even on their kindle sales with appstore purchases and such. I hate to be pessimistic, but one can hope, personally I am hoping, think I'm going to see what I can find out about that processor.
Edit: hmmm well I looked it up online here, I don't see any mentions of security implementations, and as usual amazon seems to have slightly underclocked the processor, probably to give more battery lifetime or something. I find it interesting how this processor has the WiFi and Bluetooth and even the lte stuff all in one chip, and there is more than one model of the chip, they make models without lte, some with CDMA, and some with no support, so I'm guessing we might be seeing slightly different models across the devices for the lte versions. If this stuff is common, please excuse my ignorance, I'm more familiar with a PC processor than a phone processor. Interesting that this processor says it handles USB 3.0... Anyone find an article with some kinda security function that this processor might have? I couldn't find any on a basic Google search.
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stunts513 said:
I have my doubts that they are open to development mainly because of the article posted in the HD 7” general forums, it said amazon was roughly breaking even on their kindle sales with appstore purchases and such. I hate to be pessimistic, but one can hope, personally I am hoping, think I'm going to see what I can find out about that processor.
Edit: hmmm well I looked it up online here, I don't see any mentions of security implementations, and as usual amazon seems to have slightly underclocked the processor, probably to give more battery lifetime or something. I find it interesting how this processor has the WiFi and Bluetooth and even the lte stuff all in one chip, and there is more than one model of the chip, they make models without late, some with CDMA, and some with no support, so I'm guessing we might be seeing slightly different models across the devices for the lte versions. If this stuff is common, please excuse my ignorance, I'm more familiar with a PC processor than a phone processor. Interesting that this processor says it handles USB 3.0... Anyone find an article with some kinda security function that this processor might have? I couldn't find any on a basic Google search.
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Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
Ishan Sardar said:
Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
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No one is sure, until the device is released. There is Software Spec Sheet line around somewhere but until now, we got wait. We probably will be able to take root and android but that may take some time.
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I will buy this device for sure, my actual Kindle Fire is getting old and Amazon has put a really nice price in the HDX 7. After all tech need to be updated once a year approximately
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Can somebody pls tell if they can port the new Fire OS 3.0 to the kindle fire HD 2nd Gen?? The 3rd gen kindle fire HD has been released...... and also what would happen if I just flash the new firmware on the 2nd gen??
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Can somebody pls tell if they can port the new Fire OS 3.0 to the kindle fire HD 2nd Gen?? The 3rd gen kindle fire HD has been released...... and also what would happen if I just flash the new firmware on the 2nd gen??
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STOP.... DONT FLASH ANYTHING NO ONE IS FOR SURE IT WILL WORK. PROBABLY A HDX ROM WONT WORK ON A KF2 SONCE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE THE KF2 WONT HANDLE SO MUCH.
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STOP.... DONT FLASH ANYTHING NO ONE IS FOR SURE IT WILL WORK. PROBABLY A HDX ROM WONT WORK ON A KF2 SONCE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE THE KF2 WONT HANDLE SO MUCH.
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LOL...Calm down, I am not doing it!! Just asking!!
BTW I was talking about the new HD version with Fire OS 3.0, not the HDX version.....
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LOL...Calm down, I am not doing it!! Just asking!!
BTW I was talking about the new HD version with Fire OS 3.0, not the HDX version.....
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You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
Lol, no DONT flash, it will brick it due to Hardware issues.
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You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
Lol, no DONT flash, it will brick it due to Hardware issues.
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LOL.... XD
Nope, I am not flashing anything, but why shoudn't the devs try to port Fire OS 3.0?? I hope they can do it...... It is not much difference in the hardware too.
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LOL.... XD
Nope, I am not flashing anything, but why shoudn't the devs try to port Fire OS 3.0?? I hope they can do it...... It is not much difference in the hardware too.
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Probably, but it's a too difficult, and really the KF doesn't have the hardware you need for Fire OS. Its like trying to say a 1998 PC(No Upgrades) will be able to run Windows 8. Devs could port of but its too much work and not really worth it.
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Probably, but it's a too difficult, and really the KF doesn't have the hardware you need for Fire OS. Its like trying to say a 1998 PC(No Upgrades) will be able to run Windows 8. Devs could port of but its too much work and not really worth it.
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Hmmmm...... I know how hard it is. And yeah a waste of time too!! i would rather see CM on the HDX..... that would be awesome!!
It already has
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@androvista Yeah, The last post was from October, we are now in December things have changed....
@androvista Yeah, The last post was from October, we are now in December things have changed....