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Since the Galaxy Note uses Wacom technology, will you be able to use other Wacom pens with it?
Yes!!! I already own a Galaxy Note and also an HP EliteBook 2740p Tablet PC.
I tried to switch the pens and they worked seamlessy.
Ciao.
mostrillo said:
Yes!!! I already own a Galaxy Note and also an HP EliteBook 2740p Tablet PC.
I tried to switch the pens and they worked seamlessy.
Ciao.
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Wow, you may have just sold me on the Galaxy Note! Grazie!
PS: How are you enjoying inking on the Note?
Just to confirm what Mostrillo reports, here's a video of someone using another Wacom pen, including the eraser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKeb3j2K4WM
Definetlly I like one of this.can order online?
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Just to confirm what Mostrillo reports, here's a video of someone using another Wacom pen, including the eraser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKeb3j2K4WM
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Wow! Eraser too?! Loving it
eBay and amazon have it from 43-50$ brand new or used for 34$ on amazon.
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Does it work with the wacom intous pens?
copualt3 said:
eBay and amazon have it from 43-50$ brand new or used for 34$ on amazon.
Sent from my note
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Thanks I plan to check now
Really looking forward to trying the Note out using my Fujitsu Siemens Tablet PC Pen.
If that works I shall definitely look into purchasing further pens.
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Does it work with the wacom intous pens?
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Good question. Buy me a Galaxy Note and I'll try it with my Intuos 4 pen and let you know.
ill be finding out this week but, there is a samsung extra pen they provide for a better writing experience. Although i notived on the youtube video that that person's 'wacom' pen did write better .
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Really looking forward to trying the Note out using my Fujitsu Siemens Tablet PC Pen.
If that works I shall definitely look into purchasing further pens.
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Just used the pen of my fujitsu siemens lifebook T-Series -> works like a charm!
eraser function is also working!
thanks for the topic!!
could someone please test repligo reader to see if the stylus responds to pressure sensitivity for the free hand drawing tool. what are people's thoughts or will developers have to completely redesign software for pressure sensitivity when annotating word files etc??
hanspe said:
Just used the pen of my fujitsu siemens lifebook T-Series -> works like a charm!
eraser function is also working!
thanks for the topic!!
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BRILLIANT..... That's the exact same Tablet PC I have (the T4210).
I've also got a small collection of different nibs for that pen. One is quite 'grippy' and gives a nice amount of resistance on the screen.
fudge2011toffeebar said:
could someone please test repligo reader to see if the stylus responds to pressure sensitivity for the free hand drawing tool. what are people's thoughts or will developers have to completely redesign software for pressure sensitivity when annotating word files etc??
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I tried... an possibly found a bug!
not only that it does not support pressure - it does not support drawing freehand with the pen at all!
You can draw freehand with the pen, but it does not stay on the screen. your drawing will disappear. if you draw with your finger it will stay.
line, rectangle, arrow - all is working with the pen... but freehand with the pen does not work.
someone can confirm?
I brought my intuos 4 pen to the Samsung store to test on the Note.
Didn't work
The note uses wacom bamboo technology doesn't it? Maybe worth trying those. I have an very old cheap wacom tablet, will give it a play later.
checked, no go.
Hi Guys
has anyone tried the pen for Fujitsu LifeBook T1000 series with the Galaxy Note
part number CP378220-01
does it work ?
The alternative stylus thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339268
Am used to using stylus on my smartphone (courtesy Samsung Galaxy Note ). If I buy a decent quality stylus, would it work on Nexus 4 as efficiently as , for example, S-Pen on Galaxy Note?
Nothing but an S-pen will work like an S-pen; no pressure sensitivity, no proximity detection. Other styli are just proxy fingers.
formicae said:
Nothing but an S-pen will work like an S-pen; no pressure sensitivity, no proximity detection. Other styli are just proxy fingers.
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Bad news. Thanks for the response though.
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So SPen works with nexus 4 or any other phone just like with note/note2?
guest_2011 said:
So SPen works with nexus 4 or any other phone just like with note/note2?
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nope it won't even work
grained said:
nope it won't even work
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i figured. or else every phone would be a Note
couldn't this ability of the galaxy note be ported into the Nexus 4 like on a rom to make it be able to accept all of the features of the S-pen?
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couldn't this ability of the galaxy note be ported into the Nexus 4 like on a rom to make it be able to accept all of the features of the S-pen?
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The S-Pen is a hardware feature. The Note has a second digitizer that detects the S-Pen touches.
I don't yet have a Nexus 4 but I have been researching this a lot and from the information I have found it appears as though the most accurate answer will be an Adonit Jot capacitive pen. I have one and while it is not perfect it does allow the most precision of where you place the tip of the pen. Due to the fact it uses a clear plastic disk that you can see through, instead of a fat finger or fat stylus. Also for taking handwritten notes on a phone I have realized that unlike a tablet you do not need to worry about palm rejection. As you can easily rest your hand on the fingers of the hand holding the phone and not touch the screen while writing.
I've noticed something curious. My internal S-Pen is very precise, even when writing at an angle to the tablet. However, my other WACOM pen (originally for a Fujitsu tablet) has a significant offset, registering several mm below the tip, unless I hold it at exactly 90 degrees.
A little research suggests the latter is a known issue with the digitizer detecting the WACOM pen at an angle. But I'm curious why it doesn't detect the internal S-Pen the same way. I'm also curious if the Samsung brand pens (or any other WACOM pens) have less of an offset when writing at an angle.
I believe the 8pi is your best alternative. Though I've heard reports that there is also a very slight offset. The supplied SPen gives the most accurate precise experience available.
FaeMinx said:
I believe the 8pi is your best alternative. Though I've heard reports that there is also a very slight offset. The supplied SPen gives the most accurate precise experience available.
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This is correct. Any third party pens will not be properly designed to the same specifications of the Note 8, I also made a purchase similar to yours.
Thanks to you both. I wonder why this is. Something about the location of the sensor in the pen? It's a little frustrating the Note 8 isn't fully compatible with 3rd party WACOM pens like other tablets.
I've noticed a slight ofset with the Samsung S-pen that has th eraser as well, so it's not just the Wacom pens. Although I dont know what the difference is between the Wacom pens and the S-pen, they all seem like the same pen to me.
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I've noticed a slight ofset with the Samsung S-pen that has th eraser as well, so it's not just the Wacom pens. Although I dont know what the difference is between the Wacom pens and the S-pen, they all seem like the same pen to me.
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Interesting... can you estimate how great the offset is? The offset I observed with my Fujitsu pen was easily 2-3 mm. I would aim for the middle of the line and it would register in the bottom third.
Another pen related issue that is frustrating me. I purchased the s pen holder and it came with an s pen. When I use it in the holder there is an offset, not much but it truly bothers me. If I take the s pen out of the holder there is no offset, this is the same when using on my not 2 as well. My wife has the same set up and same issue. Is the holder throwing off the sensor? They weren't cheap and I purchased them directly from Samsung, really didn't expect an issue and don't even use the holder anymore due to the offset. Total shame, is much more comfortable to use.
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Interesting... can you estimate how great the offset is? The offset I observed with my Fujitsu pen was easily 2-3 mm. I would aim for the middle of the line and it would register in the bottom third.
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I think the offset is about the same with all the pens as compared to the device stylus. I suppose the stylus were specifically callibrated for the 8.0 while the various pens have not been specifically callibrated at all.
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I think the offset is about the same with all the pens as compared to the device stylus.
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To clarify, you're saying the offset you're seeing with the Samsung branded S-Pen 8pi is approximately 2-3mm? I'm trying to decide if it's worth buying, so I appreciate your being as specific as possible.
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I suppose the stylus were specifically callibrated for the 8.0 while the various pens have not been specifically callibrated at all.
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Sure, but why such a dramatic difference? Ordinarily, you can use any WACOM pen with any WACOM tablet without such a dramatic offset.
Not sure if it helps your case, but underneath the spen button (if you pry it open with a pin) there are 2 potentiometers (variable resistors) or for common folks adjustment screws, that I assume are meant for calibration.
Perhaps someone with a spare/alt pen can give that a try and report their findings. one of the screws is for adjusting pressure sensitivity and the other is for offset.
My wacom intuos 4 pen also have a adjustment screw underneath it, unfortunately that pen is of no use with this device as not compatible.
My old wacom graphaire tablet pen also does not work with my intuos4 or galaxy note.
another thing to note : Magnets do affect the note 8 digitizer a bit. I noticed that with my aftermarket flip book cover (that had tiny magnets in back) was affecting right most region and either strokes wont register, or register at an offset and at times would get wavvy (likely following to magnetic field pattern of those magnets). I removed those magnets with a blade.
It is a possiblility that samsung calibrated the spen and digitizer on note 8 to compensate for magnetic field due to some internal parts and thus throwing all other compatible pens off the grid. (very unlikely but not impossible).
I tested some pens
Hi,
I tested some pens with my 3G Note 8.0
Wacom CS-3002W bamboo stylus feel
This one works very well, is well built and has no offset (there are two versions of this pens, the one with blue packaging is for Samsung Galaxy Note)
Samsung ET-S110EBEGSTD
Has offset and is a little heavy at the wrong side
Samsung ET-S200EBEGSTD
No offset, very light and not really quality built
Hope this helps you
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Hi,
I tested some pens with my 3G Note 8.0
Wacom CS-3002W bamboo stylus feel
This one works very well, is well built and has no offset (there are two versions of this pens, the one with blue packaging is for Samsung Galaxy Note)
Samsung ET-S110EBEGSTD
Has offset and is a little heavy at the wrong side
Samsung ET-S200EBEGSTD
No offset, very light and not really quality built
Hope this helps you
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I purchased the Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel White and it has a really large offset. I shortened the tip as much as I could, but it still has a large offset. (I must write with more of an angle than most). I also purchased the 8p pen and found a slight offset. I use Lecture Notes so I can compensate, but the Wacom Bamboo Feel I have needs 3 times the offset that I use for the 8p.
If the above reference is to another Wacom Pen or if someone finds a full size pen that works as well as the built in pen, please post a link to it. The built in pen feels like writing with a toothpick!
Edit: looking at my offset settings, shortening the tip helped more than I remembered. My 8p offset was 5 pixels, my Wacom offset used to be about 3 times as much but is now -5, -5, -8, -3, in the different directions in landscape and portrait modes. Maybe I'm just more lucky than most, or write at more of an angle.
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Link
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If the above reference is to another Wacom Pen or if someone finds a full size pen that works as well as the built in pen, please post a link to it.
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Here is the link, the blue packaging edition is for Samsung Note devices
wacom .eu /index2.asp?pid=9221&spid=5&lang=en
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Here is the link, the blue packaging edition is for Samsung Note devices
wacom .eu /index2.asp?pid=9221&spid=5&lang=en
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Hm, that looks like the same pen I have which definitely is off using Lecture Notes, but I haven't tested yet in S Notes (I left it at work). What app are you using it in? Do you tend to slant the pen when you write, or do you hold it pretty much 90 degrees to the surface? If the difference turns out to be in the app and not in the pen I might just have to learn how to use S Notes!
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Another pen related issue that is frustrating me. I purchased the s pen holder and it came with an s pen. When I use it in the holder there is an offset, not much but it truly bothers me. If I take the s pen out of the holder there is no offset, this is the same when using on my not 2 as well. My wife has the same set up and same issue. Is the holder throwing off the sensor? They weren't cheap and I purchased them directly from Samsung, really didn't expect an issue and don't even use the holder anymore due to the offset. Total shame, is much more comfortable to use.
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This one is for note 1. The spen inside is same as note 1's. If you hold it for 90 degree, there is not much offset. If you tilt it for normal writing, the offset may bother.
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What app are you using it in?
Do you tend to slant the pen when you write, or do you hold it pretty much 90 degrees to the surface?
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All apps are working fine: snote, lecture notes, simple mind, sketchbook, photoshop touch.
Here some picture of hovering above lecture notes app:
side view
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top view (about 45°)
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All apps are working fine: snote, lecture notes, simple mind, sketchbook, photoshop touch.
Here some picture of hovering above lecture notes app:
side view
img856.imageshack.us/img856/2599/52wl.jpg
img191.imageshack.us/img191/2777/xgzi.jpg
top view (about 45°)
img59.imageshack.us/img59/2396/0cvs.jpg (this one isn't really from top, since you wouldn't see the blue circle anymore, there is no offset)
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Thanks. I turned off the hover feature so I can't tell if mine is the same. (It gets in the way when taking notes fast, I find it too distracting). But I just did a little test in SNote as well as in Lecture Notes, and the offset I see is present in both, though it is very small. My test draws a rectangle and then tries to draw a straight line from each corner to see how close the pen actually writes to where it touches. Then I write "hello" in script twice, erase the first "l", and add it back in another color. I can do this perfectly with the built in pen. The 8pi is so close, I'm unsure if it's off at all, or if it's just my writing isn't perfect. But the Wacom pen definitely does not connect with the existing line. Now that I've shortened the tip, it's only a tiny bit off, but is enough to bother me. (Of course now I have to test it with another unshortened Wacom tip to be sure it's not because I shortened it! All the nibs are at home so this will have to wait.)
So (almost) final verdict from me: The S Pen (8pi) is overall the most comfortable to use (for me).
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I pulled the trigger on the ET-S200EBEG (8pi). It's smaller than I expected, and as promised, has a slight offset (1mm or less) that makes it not quite as precise as the internal S-pen. Still, it's a big improvement over my other WACOM stylus and very usable for note taking. Overall, I'm pleased.
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This one is for note 1. The spen inside is same as note 1's. If you hold it for 90 degree, there is not much offset. If you tilt it for normal writing, the offset may bother.
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Hi
l also bought a s-pen holder but it wouldn't work on Note 8 but work on Note 2. Is the certain thing ' need to do?
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Found a Bamboo-Note compatibility list that seems updated on a regular basis by Wacom:
http://bamboostylus.wacom.com/compatibility/
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Hello so today i realized that a digitizer pen from a lenovo thinkpad yoga 12 actually works exactly as an spen on our note device.
You may wonder why is this important well the lenovo thinkpad pen is just a regular digitizer pen. So im guessing that ANY digitizer pen will work with our device. In case anyone is looking for a bigger or heavier pen. Try searching digitizer pen...
Here is a video. Sorry for the quality i filmed it on the thinkpad and i accidentally covered the mic but it just shows that it has the same functions as samsung spen
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f6alxjb1571ja5m/WIN_20150919_231518.MP4?dl=0
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i've tried my N3 S-Pen when I first got my N5. it doesn't work as well. it seems more sensitive to the N5 S-Pen and is more precise - I can draw more finer lines.
how's your thinkpad pen with it?
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So im guessing that ANY digitizer pen will work with our device. In case anyone is looking for a bigger or heavier pen. Try searching digitizer pen...
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It's not a guess, it's true. Samsung licenses Wacom technology for the Note-series. But there's a big but. People who've used Wacom branded stylus' with the Note have had offset issues. Something's different with the Note 5's digitizer and/or stylus too. The two full-size Samsung S Pens I have aren't nearly as sensitive on the Note 5 as they are on my Note 12 and were on my Note 4. They're no where near as sensitive as the included stylus either. In theory any active stylus should work on the Note(s) but in practice that's not the case. So if you're experimenting buy from some place with a liberal return policy.
Wacom stylus & digitizers over LCD screens are a lot older than the Galaxy Note series.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacom_(company)
My note 3 s pen seemed identical in using to draw on the note 5 screen...
Used my Surface Pro 3 Pen on the N5 as well as the other way around with the same experience on both devices.
I do agree that is not as sensitive. I had to put a slight force in order to work sometimes.
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This isn't a new discovery, expecially if you have been with the note line since the OG Note.
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It's not a guess, it's true. Samsung licenses Wacom technology for the Note-series. But there's a big but. People who've used Wacom branded stylus' with the Note have had offset issues. Something's different with the Note 5's digitizer and/or stylus too. The two full-size Samsung S Pens I have aren't nearly as sensitive on the Note 5 as they are on my Note 12 and were on my Note 4. They're no where near as sensitive as the included stylus either. In theory any active stylus should work on the Note(s) but in practice that's not the case. So if you're experimenting buy from some place with a liberal return policy.
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Samsung owns Wacom.
No, Samsung has some 20% share in wacom
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Hi,
from images and videos about this device on web I have noticed that included stylus does not have any buttons, which is a bit disappointing for me as I am used to use stylus with as least 1 button (preferably 2 thou). Since the Yoga Book has wacom digitizer, could I use a stylus from my Intuos tablet? Or some other stylus with buttons?
Thanks
I was able to use the stylus of my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the button worked as well
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I was able to use the stylus of my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the button worked as well
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Thanks for the info.
Not the thing I was hoping. I have Galaxy Note as well and those small styluses are just not for me.
Search for Bamboo Wacom stylus. I've got one that works with both my Galaxy Note 8 and the Yoga Book. I believe any Wacom stylus should work with the Yoga Book.
yes i think so, the technic is from wacom
i test one from my old windows convertible on the lenovo also the eraser works and the button
Hello,
i have test the stylus from my Windows "Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 260", it didn´t work
Hey,
thanks all for the comments. The stylus from Samsung Note series indeed works (Galaxy Note 10 2014 in my case) and quite well actually. Just for funsies I have ordered few cheap "replacement" styluses from china, will let you guys know how it turns out.
I have also tried stylus from my Intuos tablet which unfortunately did not worked at all - the bamboo stylus seams to be the way for Wacom styluses.
Talsi said:
Hi,
from images and videos about this device on web I have noticed that included stylus does not have any buttons, which is a bit disappointing for me as I am used to use stylus with as least 1 button (preferably 2 thou). Since the Yoga Book has wacom digitizer, could I use a stylus from my Intuos tablet? Or some other stylus with buttons?
Thanks
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I have had the Yoga Book for 3 days and loving it. I have found that the pen from the Thinkpad Tablet 10 works fine, its much smaller and has a button. The button didn't appear to do much in my first quick test. However, if that pen works maybe the Samsung pens do too.
How about the galaxy note pen version which has also a headset function (S pen). Will it work?
Has anyone tried the Surface Stylus with one key and an eraser on top? I think that would be great if it's working with our yoga book!
I received this S Pen clone yesterday: http://www.ebay.de/itm/131721242167
It works, but triggers to early, so I have many ghost lines on my notes. It's not very usable. Maybe an original product will work better - but I'm not sure.
i tried cube i7 stylus(skylake)'s pen today. it works without pressure sensor so... meaningless. however backside button works as eraser. side button doesn't works. i owned android yogabook.
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Hey, Just for funsies I have ordered few cheap "replacement" styluses from china, will let you guys know how it turns out.
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Hey,
me again. So the styluses from china just arrived - it took way longed than usually does thou . So I bought these two: http://www.dx.com/p/capacitive-scre...samsung-note-3-black-2pcs-412089#.WHOxTy_Qckk
To my surprise they work quite well including the button! Only on pad thou, you can not use them with screen (same as original note stylus). Also, the tip has a bit more resistance than original note stylus when pressed, which I like very much. There are like only 2 levels of pressure sensitivity so it is not for artists but for notes it just fine.
I picked up a Wacom Bamboo Smart Stylus and it works. But... there are some weird distorted spots where the point doesn't quite track right. There are about 5 scattered about the screen some of them are about 2 inches in from the edge of the screen. While it works, the distortions were enough to bring me back to the buttonless (ugh!) OEM stylus.
The original Surface Pro (gen 1) stylus works perfectly with the Android version of the Yoga Book.
You can get one here:
OEM Microsoft Surface Pro / Surface Pro 2 Bluetooth Wireless Stylus Pen
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Microso...tooth-Wireless-Stylus-Pen-Black-/142288561742
Where's the benefit of using a different Stylus?
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Where's the benefit of using a different Stylus?
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My main reason is to have a backup. I've read that the tip of the Yoga Book stylus insert is prone to breaking off when switching to an ink tip.
I would love to get a alternative Stylus with Gel or a little bit something softer. But thats not so important.
I'm a little bit worried, that there are no Stylus Tips (plastic) for the Real Pen are available. You get normally one with Pens from Microsoft
or Samsung. So I have to buy then a new Stylus?
Which Stylus is definitly and without any restrictions working?
Worst case, use a drained ball point tip. Should work fine. How fast do these Wacom tips tend to wear down?
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I was able to use the stylus of my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the button worked as well
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Hi, interested in what the s-pen button does functionally bring, both under windows and under android.
Thanks