A question for artist - Galaxy Note 10.1 General

I read the thread about the apps for artist and even bought layer paint because of good review. I have also tried some free apps mentioned for drawing and the smoothest seems to be TV paint (for sketches). I cant afford to buy all the other apps right now to try it. So my question is, is there any app that is meant for drawings but as smooth as TV paint with palm rejection, pressure sensitivity and layers function? I know we can draw on TV paint but it seems too complicated. Anyone found a nice app with smoothness for sketching?
Also question to people who have updated Jelly bean. How is the Photoshop touch? Please can you mention the difference compared to ICS.

I have Autodesk Sketchbook pro for tablets, and it's the best app out there IMO. I've seen other reviews saying the same. It's quite cheap too.
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sraix001 said:
I read the thread about the apps for artist and even bought layer paint because of good review. I have also tried some free apps mentioned for drawing and the smoothest seems to be TV paint (for sketches). I cant afford to buy all the other apps right now to try it. So my question is, is there any app that is meant for drawings but as smooth as TV paint with palm rejection, pressure sensitivity and layers function? I know we can draw on TV paint but it seems too complicated. Anyone found a nice app with smoothness for sketching?
Also question to people who have updated Jelly bean. How is the Photoshop touch? Please can you mention the difference compared to ICS.
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TV Paint looks complicated, because its not actually a paint tool, its a full animation studio. I had a play with it the other day... impressive, but complicated!
I will learn it anyway though, there is also a help manual on the TV website.
As far as free apps goes... theres a free version of sketchbook pro, but I'm not sure what features it has locked because it is free. Theres a free version of Infinite Paint (Note) as well, which is a version specifically designed for the galaxy Note.

Markhypnosis said:
I have Autodesk Sketchbook pro for tablets, and it's the best app out there IMO. I've seen other reviews saying the same. It's quite cheap too.
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In my experience, it doesnt palm reject. Im always zooming around or lines are just flying away from my point. I've gotten into the habit of working on LectureNotes but theyre all line drawings, ill try coloring soon and will report back.

I heard the same thing that sketchbook pro doesn't have palm rejection. I rest my palms alot and it's a must have for me. I can afford to buy few apps and test it but not all that was mentioned in the other thread. But damn TV paint is so smooth. Wish they could release an artist version.

I use sketchbook pro and don't seem to have trouble with my palm now, trick is to enable hovering pen icon in settings annd when you paint make sure the hovering icon is showing before putting your palm down and as long as you have that icon showing it you won't leave marks with your palm although it may zoom in and out sometimes but that's better than marks or lines
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Samsungnooby said:
I use sketchbook pro and don't seem to have trouble with my palm now, trick is to enable hovering pen icon in settings annd when you paint make sure the hovering icon is showing before putting your palm down and as long as you have that icon showing it you won't leave marks with your palm although it may zoom in and out sometimes but that's better than marks or lines
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Thanks for the tip. I keep turning my tablet around just to get the best angle to draw without touching the screen. Although an SPen only mode would be much more useful.

I believe there already is a Pen-only Mode in the notification menu

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I believe there already is a Pen-only Mode in the notification menu
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Can you clarify? Are you referring to the pop-up notification when removing the s-pen from its holder?

Sorry for not specify that this feature is found on the thinkpad tablet, I don't know if the note has one though. Anyway it is under Display setting

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Art & Drawing Apps

Guys,
Have any of you come across a 'decent' Art & Drawing application?
I know there are quite a few but I'm looking for one that has realistic brushes/palette and tools.
It 'must' have an ability to use 'smear' where I can smear many colours or do a graduated colour spread.
Another nice to have would be 'pressure sensitivity' ~ whereby applying various forms of pressure gives off varying brush thickness.
Thanks in advance.
Beards
Bother..... Just realized I've posted this in the wrong section. Should have gone in the Themes and Apps section....
Staff, please relocate, my apologies.
Beards
I've been looking for one to, but they all seem to be just very basic finger paint programs.
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I've been looking for one to, but they all seem to be just very basic finger paint programs.
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That's the trouble which I have found as well.
Besides my profession I have a passion with photography and drawing.
I would handsomely pay quite a lot of there were an Art package available that you could use properly for sketch and watercolour.
Again, if anyone has any ideas please do let us know.
Not found anything that is pressure sensitive, not sure if that's even possible. I found a simple sketch app that simulates the effect based on the speed of your finger.
There might be a opportunity here for someone. I used to write art packages, but now that I work in computer graphics, I'm not sure I have the same enthusiasm for doing it in my spare time.
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Not found anything that is pressure sensitive, not sure if that's even possible. I found a simple sketch app that simulates the effect based on the speed of your finger.
There might be a opportunity here for someone. I used to write art packages, but now that I work in computer graphics, I'm not sure I have the same enthusiasm for doing it in my spare time.
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Pressure sensitivity is possible Mark, well on Windows Mobile that is...
There's a title named DynaInk which supports pressure sensitivity and has very basic smudging effect built in.
What was the name of the title you found and did it support 'smudge/smear'?
With all the titles available one would like to believe there must be an App available that can mimic an artists drawing/painting board.
It was Sketcher, it doesnt support the features you're looking for Mike, but with the Sketchy brush selected did allow you to get several colours on top of one another in an air-brush type fashion.
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It was Sketcher, it doesnt support the features you're looking for Mike, but with the Sketchy brush selected did allow you to get several colours on top of one another in an air-brush type fashion.
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Thanks Mark found it..... I like the idea but you are right, it's not my cup of tea.
Did find one of interest ~ Magic Doodle Lite
It only has the single brush in the Lite version but it does allow you to graduate your colour if you use a specific brush fill pattern.
The Pro version has 35 real artist brushes (not 8 as the Market mentions), prismacolour, acrylic, hue & saturation, pencil colour, van gogh oil, rembrandt watercolour, skin tone, cool colours, weak saturation, grey saturation, 3 greys sacle, victorian, nocturne.
More drawing & painting tools.
Eyedropper to select colours fro your paintings.
Extra zooming from 50% to 1000%
Colour bucket to quickly fill closed forms and shapes.
Smudge tool.
Symmetrical drawing tool.
Premium also has search for painting ideas.
65 modern style patterns for more inspirations.
24 colourful ethnic art models for training.
Pro version costs E1.39 (USD 1.96)
Have not installed or tried, but Picsay might be worth tying.
I have not tried this
So not sure if this is what you looking for
DoodleDroid
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-littlesunsoftware-doodledroid-tDq.aspx
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Have not installed or tried, but Picsay might be worth tying.
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Picsay is more a Photo Editor than a dedicated drawing program.
There's little to no art tools.
ironman666 said:
I have not tried this
So not sure if this is what you looking for
DoodleDroid
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-littlesunsoftware-doodledroid-tDq.aspx
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DoodleDroid again works with Photo's.
Basically I need to work from a blank canvass just as you would if putting chalk, pastel, paint, etc on paper.
Thanks guys.
Not what I am seeking but I do appreciate the feedback.
So has anyone found anything better yet? I haven't had much luck in finding anything good.
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So has anyone found anything better yet? I haven't had much luck in finding anything good.
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The nearest I have found is Magic Doodle.
The Lite version only has the single brush whereas the full has quite a lot more.
I've given myself to looking until the end of July. If I can't find anything further to my needs then I'll pay for the full version.

My 2 cents on Gingerbread on the Atrix

I've just updated my Atrix to Gingerbread and all almost all my complaints about the Atrix are now gone! There are some things that do not please me though.
Here is a quick sum up of my experience so far:
Positive
- Lag between homescreens after you wake up the phone. Before Gingerbread I've tried ALL the major launchers and there was lag with ALL of them. With Gingerbread the lag is gone! Zeam Launcher is a beauty to use.
- The agenda/calendar app is close to perfection now. Really really excellent.
- The Gallery is very good.
- The dock and the look are very cool.
Could use improvement
- The music player really needs to allow you to organize your music by folder.
Step backwards.
- The Gingerbread keyboard is great but I really cannot understand why they took a step backwards and removed a great feature. With froyo once you clicked for some seconds on a letter you would get a pop up rectangle with all options regarding this letter (the same letter with accents, etc). The rectangle would stay there until you've selected your choice. But with Gingerbread you have to keep pressing the letter and then slide your finger to the option you want to select in the rectangle. This sucks! The keyboard would be just perfect if it weren't for this.
Still the same
- I thought that Motorola would finally allow you to decide for your self how many homescreens you need instead of still forcing you to have the number of homescreens that think it's right.
hmm, so far for me...
advantages of gingerbread
more free ram on bootup
games run slightly smoother (im assuming better drivers)
disadvantages
menus now have white background with black text. on an lcd screen, this can increase battery consumption notably compared to the previous white text on black background.
icons seem too large for my liking
doesnt feel as smooth as froyo in some areas
when typing with froyo, if you pressed once on an area in the text but missed your target, you could press and hold and a mini magnifying glass would pop up to help you place your text marker more easily. with gingerbread, this is replaced by just a little marker. just a minor annoyance imo.
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hmm, so far for me...
advantages of gingerbread
more free ram on bootup
games run slightly smoother (im assuming better drivers)
disadvantages
menus now have white background with black text. on an lcd screen, this can increase battery consumption notably compared to the previous white text on black background.
icons seem too large for my liking
doesnt feel as smooth as froyo in some areas
when typing with froyo, if you pressed once on an area in the text but missed your target, you could press and hold and a mini magnifying glass would pop up to help you place your text marker more easily. with gingerbread, this is replaced by just a little marker. just a minor annoyance imo.
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We have white sub pixels, so doesn't that help battery consumption? That's just what I've read thoughout the forum. This is qHD, not just a regular HTC LCD
The keyboard thing is really what's beyond my comprehension. Why would they take a step backwards?! Why? I even checked the settings to see if there was a way to change this but apparently there isn't. This may not be a big deal to english speakers but for languages like portuguese that have toons of accents it was a super useful asset. I hope Motorola fixes this.
You can download different keyboards, right?
Maybe one of them has the features you want.
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You can download different keyboards, right?
Maybe one of them has the features you want.
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Yes, I know, but it's just a shame that Motorola had such a great keyboard and had to go and change it for the worst.
Souai said:
hmm, so far for me...
advantages of gingerbread
more free ram on bootup
games run slightly smoother (im assuming better drivers)
disadvantages
menus now have white background with black text. on an lcd screen, this can increase battery consumption notably compared to the previous white text on black background.
icons seem too large for my liking
doesnt feel as smooth as froyo in some areas
when typing with froyo, if you pressed once on an area in the text but missed your target, you could press and hold and a mini magnifying glass would pop up to help you place your text marker more easily. with gingerbread, this is replaced by just a little marker. just a minor annoyance imo.
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This is an lcd screen so the color has no effect on power usage at all. Only on amoled screens does black color drain less power than white. So the new color makes no difference.
i read a while ago a thread on allaboutmaemo or allaboutmeego that they tested the battery life difference between samsung galaxy s (lcd vs amoled) and they found that white backgrounds did increase battery consumption. although its not as bad of an increase when compared to amoled.
A white background will use slightly more power than a black background as all of the sub-pixels in the screen need a continuous charge to stay in the "on" position. However, I seriously doubt that the affect on power consumption would be anything other than negligible unless you are in the menus 24/7.
I do prefer a black background with white text though.
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when typing with froyo, if you pressed once on an area in the text but missed your target, you could press and hold and a mini magnifying glass would pop up to help you place your text marker more easily. with gingerbread, this is replaced by just a little marker. just a minor annoyance imo.
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This sounds really bad! No magnifying glass anymore? That is an important feature to precisely place the cursor when you want to edit.
My problem after upgrading to the is connecting to my car's bluetooth (bluelogic). Once I turn the toggle on won't automatically connect anymore. I have to go to settings and connect it, it's says paired but not connected. Anybody knows how to fix this?
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jonstatt said:
This sounds really bad! No magnifying glass anymore? That is an important feature to precisely place the cursor when you want to edit.
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Hopefully it at least uses the SGS blue marker, which IMO was way better than the magnifying glass anyway...
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My problem after upgrading to the is connecting to my car's bluetooth (bluelogic). Once I turn the toggle on won't automatically connect anymore. I have to go to settings and connect it, it's says paired but not connected. Anybody knows how to fix this?
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Just delete/remove it and re-pair it. Should work fine then.
ccrows said:
Hopefully it at least uses the SGS blue marker, which IMO was way better than the magnifying glass anyway...
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it does, i dont think its that bad compared to the magnifying glass. just doesnt look as kool..
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A white background will use slightly more power than a black background as all of the sub-pixels in the screen need a continuous charge to stay in the "on" position. However, I seriously doubt that the affect on power consumption would be anything other than negligible unless you are in the menus 24/7.
I do prefer a black background with white text though.
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White background battery draining is more about Amoled screen phones...
GM1 said:
Just delete/remove it and re-pair it. Should work fine then.
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Did it twice and still doesn't work .
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Homescreen scrolling is still slow. I love the new look but I keep going back to launcherpro. Seriously, why can they just make it smooth like launcherpro?
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Upgrade was successful on first attempt. After 5-minutes use... app icons appear to be larger - have not checked if there is a setting for that. I thought I heard that we would be able to get more icons per screen so maybe there is a setting. Contacts application appears to work differently and contact details are not as compact as previously. Weather Channel app took some time to load but I see it is up now. I like the new look of the alert bar. Anyway that's after only 5-minutes of playing around.
I got the same problem as you. Can't seem to find a fix for this.
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Anyone know how to get back the ability of linking contacts to facebook profiles manually? Its no longer an option anymore :-\

Calibrating the S-Pen

Hi guys. I'd like to know if there is any way to calibrate the S-Pen, somethink like in the old Windows Mobile days with that little cross which you had to tap to calibrate your screen to the stylus. It's off by a few pixels on my note, which makes it annoying.
+1 .......
My GN too is off by a few pixel and is kinda annoying specially for some precision drawing.
It's supposed to be off, that's why you set it for left and right handed so you can see what your doing.
All you need to do is get used to it.
yeah that how they design . like set the right hand then it will off a bit on the left . if setting using left hand then it will off to the right side a bit. but its only on s memo ? seem to be spot on in browsing web.
I just did a little discovery. When I touch the screen either with one finger of my other hand or with part of the hand which holds the pen TOGETHER with S Pen, the accuracy is much better then by touching the screen solely by S Pen. Tested with default stylus and some OEM Lifebook tablet PC stylus. Both behave better when I rest my palm on screen while drawing/writting.
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I just did a little discovery. When I touch the screen either with one finger of my other hand or with part of the hand which holds the pen TOGETHER with S Pen, the accuracy is much better then by touching the screen solely by S Pen. Tested with default stylus and some OEM Lifebook tablet PC stylus. Both behave better when I rest my palm on screen while drawing/writting.
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Are you sure you aren't just holding the pen at a slightly different angle when doing that? The way you hold the pen makes quite a big difference to the accuracy in my experience.
I think that the precision of the pen is perfect.
I think it's wrong yours handle
not using the pen perpendicular ...
try to held the s-pen as a real pen (inclined) and you'll find it very precise.
you must use it as you use one pen with a sheet of paper
I don't think you write with the pen perpendicular the book...
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Are you sure you aren't just holding the pen at a slightly different angle when doing that? The way you hold the pen makes quite a big difference to the accuracy in my experience.
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The angle definitely impacts the precision. As written above the usual 'paper and pen' holding is the best and also the upward pen button orientation helps. But somehow I get even more precise results when touching the screen.
I just get a my replacement of galaxy note from the shop due to the screeen problem in my last phone.
I am quite frustrated because I found that my s pen really needs calibration. My last galaxy note, although the screen had problem, it didn't have any calibration problem that the s pen is so accurate. So unhappy
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It's supposed to be off, that's why you set it for left and right handed so you can see what your doing.
All you need to do is get used to it.
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It should get used to me, not the other way round.
I'm left-handed, and many left handers have different ways of holding pens due to smudge-avoidance habits. Setting the phone to "left handed" may suit some lefties, but not me.
What's so difficult about allowing personal calibration, Samsung?
I've found my pen is inaccurate too, unless you're holding it and using it like a pen and not a stylus... If that makes sense?
If you use it like a traditional stylus on resistive touch screen and expect the point of the stylus to be exactly where it hits the screen regardless of pen angle then it'll always appear to be very inaccurate. But if you treat it more like a normal pen and hold it at a normal handwriting angle and except the mark to appear where the tip of the pencil would be in that position its just fine.
Change your mindset: This is a standard pencil, not a stylus. Once you treat it like a normal pencil/pen and use it like you normally do handwriting instead of as a stylus poking at the screen you'll find its very good.
mine also a bit off its upper then the actual touch point.
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mine also a bit off its upper then the actual touch point.
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Mine too. I really think this was a deliberate move by Samsung. More like a pencil/pen than a stylus.
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Mine too. I really think this was a deliberate move by Samsung. More like a pencil/pen than a stylus.
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This. It's supposed to be this way, to make writing more natural. Not a flaw, but I do wish there was an option to disable it. Maybe a mod in the future will enable us to.
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It should get used to me, not the other way round.
I'm left-handed, and many left handers have different ways of holding pens due to smudge-avoidance habits. Setting the phone to "left handed" may suit some lefties, but not me.
What's so difficult about allowing personal calibration, Samsung?
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Fully agreed - we should be able to calibrate it. and it should definitely get used to us and not the other way around!!!!
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kebong said:
This. It's supposed to be this way, to make writing more natural. Not a flaw, but I do wish there was an option to disable it. Maybe a mod in the future will enable us to.
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It seems like a flaw to me. When I use it towards the center of the screen it seems OK, as I get closer to the edges it drifts off center. It certainly looks like a calibration bug to me.
same issue, need to hold it like a pen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19491160
Check out this thread
I posted a rather long thing about the accuracy issue.
Basically, there's a set offset based on left/right handedness, which will change depending on the orientation of the screen. If the angle at which you write moves outside of what Samsung deems "normal" then it becomes horribly inaccurate.
Everyone is trying to stick up for and justify this pen problem...if this is the case, how come other drawing programs on the note aren't nearly as bad?

Jagged Writing

The quality of pen input on my Note 10.1 seems very poor compared to Lenovo's Thinkpad android tablet. Here are some screenshots from Quill and Papyrus for comparison:
https://plus.google.com/photos/118035123044388609537/albums/5778924744771043441
These screenshots are zoomed in about 5x from the size at which the text was written to make the difference obvious.
Has anyone else observed this? Could I just have a defective unit? The final picture in the album shows the result of using the S-Pen from my Galaxy Note 10.1 on a Tablet PC running Windows (Thinkpad X61 tablet - also a Wacom digitizer), so I don't think there's anything wrong with the pen.
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The quality of pen input on my Note 10.1 seems very poor compared to Lenovo's Thinkpad android tablet. Here are some screenshots from Quill and Papyrus for comparison:
https://plus.google.com/photos/118035123044388609537/albums/5778924744771043441
Has anyone else observed this? Could I just have a defective unit? The final picture in the album shows the result of using the S-Pen from my Galaxy Note 10.1 on a Tablet PC running Windows (Thinkpad X61 tablet - also a Wacom digitizer), so I don't think there's anything wrong with the pen.
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I've seen that happen very occasionally in Lecture Notes... It's not as pronounced as yours, but it's the same thing.
Would be interested to see how many others are seeing the same thing.
That has never happened to me so far.
I have never used Lecture notes, so I cant comment on that, but pen - input has been working great for me in S Note.
This is not good news. I use Lecture Notes - it is my go-to app for notes. I'm getting mine tomorrow so I'll be testing and will report back.
The effect seems less noticeable in LectureNotes and S-Note under normal use because the minimum stroke width is relatively wide and, since both these save strokes as bitmaps instead of vector graphics, zooming in blurs everything. However, if I zoom out to 30% in LectureNotes, write, then zoom in, I see the same jaggedness.
Lecture Notes allows the user to set the pencil to any width, color or softness, softness adding an antialiasing effect.
If you set your pencils correctly there should be no jaggeness at all. Screen text on my Note looks fantastic in Lecture Notes, I actually prefer the realistic looking print to the S Note app. I mean, zoom in close on an image of actual pen or pencil on paper. The edges are not smooth at all.
I mean it's a note taking app. Why would you care that one looks slightly better than another at 5x magnification?
** I just looked at your images. Yeah you are doing the pencils wrong. Why would you want to write in super fine point anyway?
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FWIW I tried writing in a few apps (S Note, Writepad, and Papyrus) and I don't get any jagged lines. Will upload a screenshot later when I get a chance. This scared me for a second.
Edit: Here's a page of text from Papyrus: http://minus.com/lFGDz8vQlZUv3
As you can see, no jaggies like in your picture. Have you made sure that all battery saving options are off? That could cause some lag in the input capture.
Actually, if I zoom in the PDF you posted, I can see the same jaggedness, so the problem isn't my device. I guess I'm just too fussy
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These screenshots are zoomed in about 5x from the size at which the text was written to make the difference obvious.
Has anyone else observed this? Could I just have a defective unit? The final picture in the album shows the result of using the S-Pen from my Galaxy Note 10.1 on a Tablet PC running Windows (Thinkpad X61 tablet - also a Wacom digitizer), so I don't think there's anything wrong with the pen.
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Hi PBSurf, you have mentioned using the S pen on Windows Tablet PC wacom digitizer. Can you confirm if the reverse is true? That is to say, does your X61 pen work on the GNote. Coz that would be great! Especially with the felt tipped pens provided by Lenovo. Cheers!
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Hi PBSurf, you have mentioned using the S pen on Windows Tablet PC wacom digitizer. Can you confirm if the reverse is true? That is to say, does your X61 pen work on the GNote. Coz that would be great! Especially with the felt tipped pens provided by Lenovo. Cheers!
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I can confirm it works on our notes as I have the same tablet, the added benefit is that you can use the eraser function of the x61t too.
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I can confirm it works on our notes as I have the same tablet, the added benefit is that you can use the eraser function of the x61t too.
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Sweet! Now.. The long wait till the GNote arrives here in Australia
kartikatre said:
Hi PBSurf, you have mentioned using the S pen on Windows Tablet PC wacom digitizer. Can you confirm if the reverse is true? That is to say, does your X61 pen work on the GNote. Coz that would be great! Especially with the felt tipped pens provided by Lenovo. Cheers!
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Yes, my X61T pen works on the Note 10.1. The eraser works in my application: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.styluslabs.write and probably some others (haven't checked). Unfortunately, the pen button does not work since Samsung reserves it for system-wide gestures (like double tap to bring up S-Note).
Samsung also offers an optional pen with an eraser for the Note.
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop...100200500150_BNY6142P.shtml&order_id=!ORDERID!
http://www.gearzap.com/official-samsung-s-pen-with-eraser-for-galaxy-note-10-1.html
I've got jaggies in Papyrus, and I imagine it's similar in Quill.
I think it has something to do with the vectorization of my strokes. If you zoom in and draw some curves, it's smooth until you take your pen off the surface, and then it goes jagged as the line is converted to points. I also think the pressure sensitivity is too high, so a bunch of fine lines at the end of letters appear when I don't actually want them.
I *think* the jaggedness is not a hardware issue... though the difference with the TPT and Note 10.1 is a little disconcerting. Maybe the TPT has a lower resolution digitizer so things are artificially straighter since there's a larger margin of error?
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I've got jaggies in Papyrus, and I imagine it's similar in Quill.
I think it has something to do with the vectorization of my strokes. If you zoom in and draw some curves, it's smooth until you take your pen off the surface, and then it goes jagged as the line is converted to points. I also think the pressure sensitivity is too high, so a bunch of fine lines at the end of letters appear when I don't actually want them.
I *think* the jaggedness is not a hardware issue... though the difference with the TPT and Note 10.1 is a little disconcerting. Maybe the TPT has a lower resolution digitizer so things are artificially straighter since there's a larger margin of error?
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Interesting ... you could see what happens in my writing application (see my previous post), since it does not smooth or otherwise alter the pen input, so nothing will change when the pen is lifted.
Since the s-pen (like any wacom pen) actually uses a pressure sensor between the tip and the pen body to determine when it's touching the screen, I did the following experiment: I put a piece of scotch tape over the tip of the s-pen tightly so that the tip was depressed and held in place. The pen of course then writes whenever it is in proximity to screen. In this experiment, I saw no jaggedness! I'm not sure what the implication of this is - maybe the problem is that the tip is too loose relative to the body. As I was packing up my Note 10.1 to return it, I noticed there were a bunch of replacement tips included, some of different types. Maybe trying a different type of tip might make a difference?
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Interesting ... you could see what happens in my writing application (see my previous post), since it does not smooth or otherwise alter the pen input, so nothing will change when the pen is lifted.
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Ooh, I missed the link to your app! I like it! Took me a while to figure out all the options but it seems like a really nice S-note alternative. I also like that it doesn't seem to have pressure sensitivity, or at least not as extreme as Papyrus. It makes my writing look nicer overall. Here's a test: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4504287/test.html
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Since the s-pen (like any wacom pen) actually uses a pressure sensor between the tip and the pen body to determine when it's touching the screen, I did the following experiment: I put a piece of scotch tape over the tip of the s-pen tightly so that the tip was depressed and held in place. The pen of course then writes whenever it is in proximity to screen. In this experiment, I saw no jaggedness! I'm not sure what the implication of this is - maybe the problem is that the tip is too loose relative to the body. As I was packing up my Note 10.1 to return it, I noticed there were a bunch of replacement tips included, some of different types. Maybe trying a different type of tip might make a difference?
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I think the pen is just over-sensitive. When I write quickly with big long strokes, there's no jaggedness at all. When I reach the end of the stroke and thus slow down, it starts to jitter. Are you returning it because of this problem? That's sad
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Ooh, I missed the link to your app! I like it! Took me a while to figure out all the options but it seems like a really nice S-note alternative. I also like that it doesn't seem to have pressure sensitivity, or at least not as extreme as Papyrus. It makes my writing look nicer overall. Here's a test: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4504287/test.html
I think the pen is just over-sensitive. When I write quickly with big long strokes, there's no jaggedness at all. When I reach the end of the stroke and thus slow down, it starts to jitter. Are you returning it because of this problem? That's sad
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My main reasons for returning the Note 10.1 were the jagged writing, the inability to use the pen button in applications (since it's reserved for system-wide gestures) and TouchWiz (this was my first encounter with TouchWiz). I'll stick with my Thinkpad Android tablet for now, but I'm really looking forward to the Microsoft Surface Pro.
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My main reasons for returning the Note 10.1 were the jagged writing, the inability to use the pen button in applications (since it's reserved for system-wide gestures) and TouchWiz (this was my first encounter with TouchWiz). I'll stick with my Thinkpad Android tablet for now, but I'm really looking forward to the Microsoft Surface Pro.
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Really? You went back to the TPT? Pen button support will come, and the jagged writing will likely get fixed... Not to mention we're actually getting JB soon...
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Really? You went back to the TPT? Pen button support will come, and the jagged writing will likely get fixed... Not to mention we're actually getting JB soon...
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Jagged writing? Maybe if you use the ink pen on its thinnest setting. Other than that the antialiasing on the pen is outstanding. The pen writing on my Note is butter smooth.
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don't have that problem
and now i always use the pen on the original note 5.3,it works great,too

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I guess that was the focus point of whole episode? How much do you guys think that it will be useful?
Personally I liked the box thing most. This is the true color of multitasking.
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Do you mean the pop up toolbar window (half circle) that is initiated by the S-Pen. If so it is a cool feature and I watched that 18 minute video and found the features to actually be very useful.
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Do you mean the pop up toolbar window (half circle) that is initiated by the S-Pen. If so it is a cool feature and I watched that 18 minute video and found the features to actually be very useful.
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Yeah I was talking about all that features.
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for me the box and the new multiwindow features will be very useful
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I guess that was the focus point of whole episode? How much do you guys think that it will be useful?
Personally I liked the box thing most. This is the true color of multitasking.
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although I like the box thing, it seemed a bit long winded. The standard has always been to drag a rubber band diagonally. Wouldn't that would be faster to draw?
The circle thing also seems like a good idea, but I couldn't work out how it decided what to clip as it saved more than what was inside the circle, but not the whole page. Maybe it will become more apparent with use.

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