Does a custom Rom come with a Kernel?
My specific case :
Nexus 7 32Gb Wifi
Android 4.1.2
Rom : PA 2.54
Kernel : Franco 3.1.10
My plan is to update to PA 2.99Beta6 which is based on Android 4.2.
I'd like to know if I'll also need to flash a new kernel as part of the upgrade process or if the PA 2.99Rom also includes the required kernel.
My guess is that it will be included with the Rom but figured it wouldn't do any harm to ask.
PMSL, how on earth do you think a ROM would actually work otherwise without a kernel.
Sorry but.... #facepalm
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My fear was that a Rom might use or expect the stock kernel, cheers for the answer though.
With that in mind, I wonder why Roms don't tend to ship with custom kernels. Franco's seems to be widely preferred to stock.
Mr_Loon said:
My fear was that a Rom might use or expect the stock kernel, cheers for the answer though.
With that in mind, I wonder why Roms don't tend to ship with custom kernels. Franco's seems to be widely preferred to stock.
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most roms that are actually developed ship with custom kernels(like cm for example). roms that are just compiled from aosp source that have some mods added usually use the default android kernel(or stock roms with added mods). also, many roms ship with other custom kernels included. anyways, many others prefer trinity kernel
Mr_Loon said:
My fear was that a Rom might use or expect the stock kernel, cheers for the answer though.
With that in mind, I wonder why Roms don't tend to ship with custom kernels. Franco's seems to be widely preferred to stock.
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Sorry I may have picked up on your question wrong, but many developers, well in fact most would use custom kernels, some prefer stock, stock kernels are generally very stable but quite limited in what they can do, for example take the pretty amazing Siyah on Galaxy S3 which gives you the ability to dual boot different ROM, s, i had AOSP as my main ROM and a Samsung ROM as my secondary ROM which was great for a while but they novelty wore off for me as I really only used the AOSP ROM, not to mention over clocking , etc, etc, etc.
I use Trinity Seven kernel on the Nexus and i find that the tablet seems to charge faster than with the CM kernel that comes with Liquid Smooth ROM.
Hope that answers some of your questions anyway
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Hi guys...
I have a N7 16Gb from october and I think thare's not a real reason to change the rom on this device...except the tablet ui and the general fun to make it!
Well...
I'm not here to ask you guide etc. but an advice.
What custom rom do you advice? many talk about Paranoidandroid but I try it on an old Galaxy Scl and it was pretty horrible and unstable...but on nexus seems the rom most supportend and with much more feature...
Or I'm attracted by the Dirk AOKP that seem pretty good....
Beside this....it's difficult also the kernel decision...
Franco Kernel? or M3 or Trinity? I'm not interested in overclock...
thanks to all in advance
no one?
No one is answering because there are a ton of these threads asked all the time. There is no best Rom or Kernel. Try searching and see what features you like or what sounds interesting and then just install it and see for yourself.
I personally like the Omega 3 kernel, OC is optional and it has just about every scheduler/governor you could possibly want. Performance and battery life are pretty much on par with the other top kernels. I haven't tried any ROMS mainly because the 2 I flashed ended up boolt-looping. So I am using the stock with some pretty major tweaks. I am a DEV on other sites and once I jump through the hoops to be able to post in developer forums I will be posting my own ROM. OC is for people who don't know how to optimize. *cough*
RealPsygnosis said:
I think thare's not a real reason to change the rom on this device...
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Modaco custom ROM (currently version Jr13) is light, mostly stock, extra features that help me are- prerooted, enhanced power menu, tweaked youtube app for video preload, enhanced quick settings panel, comes with gapps etc.
Modaco cyanogenmod custom ROM (currently version r4) consumes more processing power, based on CM 10.1 so has all its features, prerooted, more enhanced power menu(with screenshot and extended desktop options), tweaked youtube, enhanced quick settings(devoid of vol control), comes with gapps, comes with cyanogenmod file manager etc.
MCR Jr13 and MCMCR r3 are interchangeable with dirty flash so I get to retain all my apps.
M-kernel (currently a33 version) gives me ample undervolting option (lp, cpu, gpu, ram), and I can set minimum brightness with rootdim, so I can extend my battery life.
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Don't know why people make thread to ask others what's best rom, kernel... Answers will be different from users and depends what they prefers, so it'll be difficult to make a choice because every answers won't be the same. What I did when i wanted to choose was reading threads and try by myself to see what I liked. Sorry if my answer will not help you to choose but it's the best i can advise you. Hoping you find what best suits you.
Phone: GT-I9100P
Kernel: Dorimanx
ROM: 4.2.1 Vanilla RootBox
Tablet: Nexus 7
Kernel: M-Kernel
ROM: 4.2.1 AOKP PUB
MOD: JusTunBean
Xenon
Im usin Xenon HD its a 4.2 rom (aokp base) and it's very customizable for your likes. You should give it a try.:cyclops:
If you are doing any ROM other than stock, I suggest AOKP for sure. It has a ton of mods for your ui and allows a lot of customizing. Make sure you get 4.1.2 milestone version and get your gapps as well or you won't have necessary files. Hope this helps look in the aokp official thread for download
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thanks to all...
all advices are really usefull to understand the mod world...
I was intent to install an AOKP rom, but I don't really understand the difference...
I would like to try the the paranoid but i think is AOSP...
for AOKP I don't know what rom to try...I see the Dirty AOKP but I'm not sure....
There's also one called smooth ROM check it out, you should search YouTube to see if you like it. personally I'm back to the to the 4.1.2 stock rom because on aokp it wasn't allowing me to install some APK's from the play store that i really wanted. it said they werent compatible with my device when I knew they were compatible with n7.. I wish there was a way around that but nobody on here would tell me if there was or not when i posted a thread asking... anyways hope you find what you are looking for and I do suggest checking YouTube first for custom Roms for nexus 7 before flashing over hella different ones it would take less time, peace and good luck!
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no one?
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I'm running Rootbox right now. Smooth with tablet mode
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Hi all.
I have a stock, rooted Nexus 7. I have flashed plenty of ROMs on my Droid phone...
Am I correct in assuming that I can flash a different kernel, say to underclock/over clock my CPU/GPU without having to flash a new, nodded ROM like CM10? I am interested in some tweaking, but I am running CM7 on my phone-- so stock JB seems just fine to me!
Any advice would be much appreciated!
Of course! Many people choose to stay on stock with a custom kernel.
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Custom Kernel Reviews
Thought you might like a link to this custom kernel review to speed you along:
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
I prefer ParanoidAndroid 3.0 & Motley kernel personally.
--dchriste
Thank you korockinout13 and dchriste90!
I really appreciate your input and guidance.
hi all. just wondering what roms are stable and dds. im not new to flashing just new to the sg4. once rooting and flashing rom what functions might i lose that i should be aware of? just looking for a reason to froot and flash lol. thanks
Everyone has a different opinion, I prefer TW roms, I have used aosp roms for years, but rom of choice now is TW roms, Omega 7 is a complete error free rom.
Running CM10.1 Nightly builds. Been running very very well for almost two weeks now. Just today's build 7/5 seems possibly broken. Other than that very stable.
I previously ran Goldeneye. My favorite stock based ROM. Used it will CM10.1 was ironing out bugs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349520 - CLOSED
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346804 - CLOSED
as seen above, these types of threads tend to get shut down.
research and try. thats the best way to determine the best rom for YOU
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Goldeneye 3.0 is great, i prefer touchjizz, is why
just the stock rooted ROM with Nottach's exposed mod.
What beerdroid said. But I'm running bean stalk with the marla kernel. But don't flash that on your device.
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Im using the Google Edition ROM posted in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341376
I never use probably 95% of all the extra stuff Samsung puts on the GS4, and I love the clean pure operation of the GE ROM. Once you go pure android, it's really hard to ever go back. It is really amazing how much smoother and lag free the GE rom is.
But if you do prefer a TW rom, I would recommend Goldeneye, which is based on the latest Euro release.
Mint Jelly, TW based
So searching comes up with >1 year old threads and not really answering my question.
I got a used N4 recently for my daughter, and I want it to be as fast and stable as possible. I unlocked, then ADB flashed the currrent Google image and then rooted, made it ART runtime and applied the Z2 Bionic lib zip, applied current Franco kernel. Then I was halted in terms of is that the fastest?
Is that best combination which exists right now?
Is CM11 better?
I didn't really form a concluson of the Z2 Dalvik lib vs ART.
From what I know, this patch is currently faster than ART itself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120
Since ART is 'experimental' right now of course it lacks of improvements, but I am sure if Android L is released this October this wouldnt be the case anymore.
Also some Custom Roms like Cyanogenmod has its own optimized bionic libs, sometimes better than the stock ones or any patches. I highly recommend you to try this out, because than you dont have to search and compare no more.
In terms of kernel, I would not recommend you to use franco's kernel on a Custom Rom. Make sure to use any other kernel. This is just my personal experiences with franco's kernel and someone might call me too dumb to use this kernel, but why do I have so much trouble with franco and every other kernel runs fine like matr1x, ak or semaphore? Judge for yourself
CCody said:
From what I know, this patch is currently faster than ART itself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120
Since ART is 'experimental' right now of course it lacks of improvements, but I am sure if Android L is released this October this wouldnt be the case anymore.
Also some Custom Roms like Cyanogenmod has its own optimized bionic libs, sometimes better than the stock ones or any patches. I highly recommend you to try this out, because than you dont have to search and compare no more.
In terms of kernel, I would not recommend you to use franco's kernel on a Custom Rom. Make sure to use any other kernel. This is just my personal experiences with franco's kernel and someone might call me too dumb to use this kernel, but why do I have so much trouble with franco and every other kernel runs fine like matr1x, ak or semaphore? Judge for yourself
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Right so I saw the claim that sticking with Dalvic and using the optimised Dalvik lib is faster but I gave up keeping track of it as too much "feels" and "benchmarks aren't representative" conclusion.
Noting to avoid Franco with custom ROMs. The custom one I did was CM and Franco warns to not use it!
nigelhealy said:
So searching comes up with >1 year old threads and not really answering my question.
I got a used N4 recently for my daughter, and I want it to be as fast and stable as possible. I unlocked, then ADB flashed the currrent Google image and then rooted, made it ART runtime and applied the Z2 Bionic lib zip, applied current Franco kernel. Then I was halted in terms of is that the fastest?
Is that best combination which exists right now?
Is CM11 better?
I didn't really form a concluson of the Z2 Dalvik lib vs ART.
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the fastest.. whatever im using.
but really, these kinds of threads arent allowed on xda since you are asking us to compare roms. oh, ill clue you in a little, cm isnt even close to the fastest. and no, franco kernel isnt the fastest either.
Best ROM/kernel threads are not allowed on XDA
The best bet is to head over to the development sections and try some out for yourself and see which combination suits you best
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Do you guys prefer stock with stock kernel? Or stock with a custom one?
neither, custom rom and custom kernel.
simms22 said:
neither, custom rom and custom kernel.
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This. But if I had to choose... custom kernel on stock
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DebianDog said:
This. But if I had to choose... custom kernel on stock
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Custom, but make sure you read up.. Some are more stable than others. I'm using faux 007 kernel on Terminus rom on my Sprint N6 and I haven't come across one single bug or anything bad at all. Day #2. :thumbup:
flashback7 said:
Custom, but make sure you read up.. Some are more stable than others. I'm using faux 007 kernel on Terminus rom on my Sprint N6 and I haven't come across one single bug or anything bad at all. Day #2. :thumbup:
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there are bugs on terminus, just not any large bug. just a few tiny bugs, that most wont even notice
I run stock ROM, encrypted and rooted, with Franco Kernel.
flashback7 said:
Custom, but make sure you read up.. Some are more stable than others. I'm using faux 007 kernel on Terminus rom on my Sprint N6 and I haven't come across one single bug or anything bad at all. Day #2. [emoji106]
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Yes I have been on four ROMs and three kernels, I believe. I am about to give hydra a spin soon
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Stock Rom Franco Kernel for me.
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Stock + Lean
flashback7 said:
Custom, but make sure you read up.. Some are more stable than others. I'm using faux 007 kernel on Terminus rom on my Sprint N6 and I haven't come across one single bug or anything bad at all. Day #2. [emoji106]
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What radio you using or are you not having the LTE drop out?
Benzo rom + Vindicator kernel make my N6 the device it was meant to be. Hydra kernel is not bad either.
If you've taken the steps needed to flash a custom kernel, why not just nandroid your stock build and try some rom's? I'm assuming you have a custom recovery in place if you'r playing with kernels. You don't like it, restore back to stock in less then 5 minutes. I personally have not had any issues of note on the kernels and rom I mentioned. I did have issues on other combinations, but no harm done.
The functionality additions are light years ahead of what stock offers; custom drop down tiles, privacy settings, customizations, themes, etc.
jackpollard said:
Benzo rom + Vindicator kernel make my N6 the device it was meant to be. Hydra kernel is not bad either.
If you've taken the steps needed to flash a custom kernel, why not just nandroid your stock build and try some rom's? I'm assuming you have a custom recovery in place if you'r playing with kernels. You don't like it, restore back to stock in less then 5 minutes. I personally have not had any issues of note on the kernels and rom I mentioned. I did have issues on other combinations, but no harm done.
The functionality additions are light years ahead of what stock offers; custom drop down tiles, privacy settings, customizations, themes, etc.
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Everything ^^^ he mention.
Stock 47M + Zen9
Zen'd N6
Rooted stock LMY47D, unencrypted, LeanKernel oc/uc 2.4
Pretty much any kernel is going to give better battery life just out of the box before any tweaking. UV by -25 and u already are saving battery. Most kernels fix memory leaks and such too. Then there's the added benefit of extra optional features like OC/UC and wake gestures.