As many of you may have heard, Nexus 7 overclocking became very successfully. I was wondering about the status on overclocking the frequency on the Nexus 10. Is there a good kernel out there now or in the future?
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As many of you may have heard, Nexus 7 overclocking became very successfully. I was wondering about the status on overclocking the frequency on the Nexus 10. Is there a good kernel out there now or in the future?
Thanks!
add12364
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Did you bother to check the dev sections?
There is at least one kernel out that allows overclocking, mine was very stable at 2.0ghz ...
You should have searched around more. But as of right now, the Nexus 10 can get overclocked to 2.1 ghz without much stability issues. The biggest issue is that it thermal throttles so the performance increase isn't that big compared to what it's supposed to be.
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You should have searched around more. But as of right now, the Nexus 10 can get overclocked to 2.1 ghz without much stability issues. The biggest issue is that it thermal throttles so the performance increase isn't that big compared to what it's supposed to be.
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Not to mention that the Nexus isn't exactly CPU bottlenecked
dalingrin said:
Not to mention that the Nexus isn't exactly CPU bottlenecked
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OH right. Forgot about that.
dalingrin said:
Not to mention that the Nexus isn't exactly CPU bottlenecked
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I don't understand what CPU bottlenecked means... sry...
Also, I did look around for the kernel guys. I'm just not sure can I flash the kernel over the stock rooted romor do I have to flash both kernel and the AOSP rom.
Plus, I just wanted to know some progress because overclocking hasn't been a big topic for Nexus 10.
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CPU bottleneck just means that CPU is the hardware component that's slowing down the device. But in the Nexus 10, CPU is not the bottleneck (CPU is plenty strong). The Nexus 10 doesn't need any CPU overclocking. It needs memory and GPU overclocking.
You can flash the kernel over stock rom.
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I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
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U2Bono269 said:
I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.
Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?
Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.
I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?
Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first
Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.
and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery
Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.
I don't know weather this is a bug in M-Kernel a38, but occasionally it keeps freezing:
CPU: 1.6 GHz - Performance
GPU: 468 MHz - Unknown Governor
Possible, but you should post this in the M-kernel thread, you could get your answer there. Weather is nice here
Derp, spelling.
Well of course it's going to freeze! You've overclocked it to 1.6 GHz. Not all devices are going to be stable at that frequency. You may be able to improve it by tweaking the voltages a bit.
And I would NOT use the performance governor for purposes other than testing, and especially not permanently. On m-kernel, it sets all four cores to max frequency no matter what. That's a great way to have horrible battery life and a hot device, with excessive processor wear. I don't really see why you would even need to use it.
Start by changing governor to touchdemand, and if that doesn't help, try adjusting voltages.
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How do I adjust the voltages?
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How do I adjust the voltages?
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Read the OP of m-kernel and all of your questions will be answered.
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I use trinity kernel and can scale to 1.7ghz and 700mhz GPU.
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I use trinity kernel and can scale to 1.7ghz and 700mhz GPU.
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That observation only provides info about what your individual device is capable of; it provides no information at all about what clock rates another device will begin to fault at.
The fact that the EDP code in the stock kernel downclocks from 1.3 to 1.2 GHz when more than one of the G-cluster cores comes online is evidence that Nvidia observed some small fraction of Tegra30 devices that can barely operate safely with a single core running at 1.3 GHz. Otherwise, what would the point of that EDP code be - to willfully make their devices less competitive against other SoCs?
Running the performance rate governor for anything but short benchmarks is like trying to purposely shorten the operating lifetime of both the mobo and the battery.
I tried M-Kernel last week, and it constantly crashed when it was doing something.
Such as browsing Chrome/Youtube/Gmail.
M-Kernel just doesn't seem stable atm. Not only the crashes but also reboots with M-Kernel.
Before anyone says, I didn't overclock/undervolt anything, so its the kernel in general.
Went back to Faux kernel and not had a single crash.
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I tried M-Kernel last week, and it constantly crashed when it was doing something.
Such as browsing Chrome/Youtube/Gmail.
M-Kernel just doesn't seem stable atm. Not only the crashes but also reboots with M-Kernel.
Before anyone says, I didn't overclock/undervolt anything, so its the kernel in general.
Went back to Faux kernel and not had a single crash.
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The problem was not m-kernel. It's m-kernel in your configuration. I'm in that thread daily and flash every rev including the alphas. Are there are no reports of problems like this. The act of flashing Faux is probably what fixed your problem. Did you flash a ROM/GAPPS? All those apps you reported crashing are Google apps.
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I recently flashed franco.kernel onto my 16GB Nexus 4 (rooted, PA3+) and I overclocked it, but I was wondering how far I can go. I heard about a possible 2GHZ overclock but I'm not sure what kernel that uses. Any suggestions?
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I recently flashed franco.kernel onto my 16GB Nexus 4 (rooted, PA3+) and I overclocked it, but I was wondering how far I can go. I heard about a possible 2GHZ overclock but I'm not sure what kernel that uses. Any suggestions?
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no one can run 2ghz on their nexus 4
nvm.
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no one can run 2ghz on their nexus 4
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A test kernel someone made awhile back when the nexus first came out it ran fine at 2ghz was a little hot at times but it worked :laugh:
Well, what is the highest that I would be able to overclock my Nexus, anyway? franco goes up to 1.7, I'm wondering whether it's possible to go any higher. And if I could go any higher, what kernel would I have to use? I'm just quite curious.
Faux has one that goes to 1.9 i think
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Faux has one that goes to 1.9 i think
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test it. it doesnt test as a 1.9 kernel no matter how hard you try, its not really 1.9ghz. a 1.9ghz clocked cpu, will test like a 1.9 ghz cpu, not a 1.7ghz cpu. there are other kernels that go to 1.944ghz also, they test like 1.944ghz. but that doesnt matter, most phones will not be able to run at a "real" 1.944ghz.
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test it. it doesnt test as a 1.9 kernel no matter how hard you try, its not really 1.9ghz. a 1.9ghz clocked cpu, will test like a 1.9 ghz cpu, not a 1.7ghz cpu. there are other kernels that go to 1.944ghz also, they test like 1.944ghz. but that doesnt matter, most phones will not be able to run at a "real" 1.944ghz.
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Mine runs at 1.944 just fine, with an undervolt of 150 across the board
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Mine runs at 1.944 just fine, with an undervolt of 150 across the board
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bench it, show me that it benches like 1944mhz. just because it says 1.9ghz, doesnt mean it actually is. that can be faked. 1944mhz will bench like 1944mhz, 1836mhz will bench like 1836mhz, and so on. if it benches like 1.7, 1.6, 1.5ghz, then its not 1.9ghz. sure benchmarks dont show real world use, but they do show what speed you are testing by their results. we know what range each speed should test at. fauxs' 1.9ghz doesnt test where 1.9ghz should test at, and faux has been caught before, on other devices, showing that the device is running at a higher speed when actually isnt.
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bench it, show me that it benches like 1944mhz. just because it says 1.9ghz, doesnt mean it actually is. that can be faked. 1944mhz will bench like 1944mhz, 1836mhz will bench like 1836mhz, and so on. if it benches like 1.7, 1.6, 1.5ghz, then its not 1.9ghz. sure benchmarks dont show real world use, but they do show what speed you are testing by their results. we know what range each speed should test at. fauxs' 1.9ghz doesnt test where 1.9ghz should test at, and faux has been caught before, on other devices, showing that the device is running at a higher speed when actually isnt.
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Its becuase it throttles down when benching, its cause the freq cant stay that high the whole time without risking damaging the board so it throttles down to lower "safer" freq. On real cpu on a computer it has fan speeds to go higher when the temp is to high but that solution is not possible for mobile soc.
franco probably belives that 1.7 is the best possible OC since the throttling wont be that high. I would say that he is right but i prefer the stock speed and never mess with OC on mobile soc. But thats just me
More than often to much OC gives the opposite effect and makes the phone slower because of all the throttling.
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Its becuase it throttles down when benching, its cause the freq cant stay that high the whole time without risking damaging the board so it throttles down to lower "safer" freq. On real cpu on a computer it has fan speeds to go higher when the temp is to high but that solution is not possible for mobile soc.
franco probably belives that 1.7 is the best possible OC since the throttling wont be that high. I would say that he is right but i prefer the stock speed and never mess with OC on mobile soc. But thats just me
More than often to much OC gives the opposite effect and makes the phone slower because of all the throttling.
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Thanks, I see what you mean now.
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IMO Trinity is probably best for overclocking, but even it can only go up to 1836 MHz. Also, there are risks to OC as well--which ranges from overheating to red light of death to your phone spontaneously combusting. Just letting you know
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this thread is meant for everyone thats making a kernel or ROM so you know what features that everyone wants
The things we need
ROOT duh
ALL-F2FS FS support
NTFS FS support
CPU Governors
GPU Governors
GPU overclocking
CPU overclocking
RAM overclocking if we can
Dual boot ROM/Kernels and 64bit Ubuntu
any more ideas?
MultiBoot! Kexec?
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MultiBoot! Kexec?
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I have that one listed
Under voltage's battery's current 6700mah to say 6200 for extended battery life!
Under volatage CPU/GPU
Aroma?
Sweep2wake
Sweep2sleep
This is alot to ask, but good luck!
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Under voltage's battery's current 6700mah to say 6200 for extended battery life!
Under volatage CPU/GPU
Aroma?
Sweep2wake
Sweep2sleep
This is alot to ask, but good luck!
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Haha well ty
I don't even like s2w and s2s lol
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Haha well ty
I don't even like s2w and s2s lol
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Tuff luck! Its what others like :good:
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Most important one.. Stability. Needs to be stable, and have a few minor tweaks, it all depends on how the stock kernel is though.. HTC Stock kernels tend to be pretty sweet anyway and just need a few features added IMO.
Have been told that the CPU is way under clocked @2.3,GHz and could handle 3.00ghz easy! Note that this is a rumour, but if true wow!
Really looking forward to it now!
Um everything you listed is stuff that is the norm for custom kernels. Wonder if well see Franco or faux or flar here...im still really on the fence.
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Um everything you listed is stuff that is the norm for custom kernels. Wonder if well see Franco or faux or flar here...im still really on the fence.
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Im sure some of the big boys will come
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Im sure some of the big boys will come
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At the price probably only if the device is donated. I'm sure the size is off putting for them.
USB-OTG and USB-Audio support would be stellar (if not included as standard)
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I would love to see the GPU and CPU overclocking as well as over/under volt for both for maximum tuning capability. The other things I would like to see though are RAM and bus overclocking access since with so many GPU cores if we get to overclocking we may need some more in those areas too so we can take full advantage of the higher core MHz
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I would love to see the GPU and CPU overclocking as well as over/under volt for both for maximum tuning capability. The other things I would like to see though are RAM and bus overclocking access since with so many GPU cores if we get to overclocking we may need some more in those areas too so we can take full advantage of the higher core MHz
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Yep your so right
Will the LTE version have more or less ROM/kernel support?
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Will the LTE version have more or less ROM/kernel support?
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Hmm
i would think it wont be as much as the wifi only version
Lets hope the kernel is the same but with just some extra drivers
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Um everything you listed is stuff that is the norm for custom kernels. Wonder if well see Franco or faux or flar here...im still really on the fence.
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I'm 99.9% sure we will see a lot of big boys!! See what they can do with the k1
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I'm 99.9% sure we will see a lot of big boys!! See what they can do with the k1
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But i do have my doubts
because what happened to the shield tablet
is there a cm 12.1/13 kernel that would let me overclock the GPU and RAM bus as well and not just the CPU ? been skimming through the forum to no avail, currently on teamsek cm 13, it's great but i can't overclock the GPU and bus using it's supplied kernel, i'm even willing to downgrade to cm 12.1 if such a kernel exists for cm 12.1
Never heard about oc the ram in a phone.
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Never heard about oc the ram in a phone.
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how about the gpu ?
You can try to oc gpu using synapse or similar apps but people say there won't be any difference by oc'ing gpu.
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You can try to oc gpu using synapse or similar apps but people say there won't be any difference by oc'ing gpu.
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but then the kernel has to support gpu oc, other wise synapse won't work, i would just like to push the frequencies on the gpu to snap dragon 801 level
no more inputs ?
Maan, you are still trying to OC the GPU?? I answered you 2 times already. IT IS OF NO USE! GPU OC will even slow things down due to heating up like hell! RAM connection is the bottleneck in our case, so it won't help at all, except your goal is the kill the phone to buy a new one very quickly...
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Maan, you are still trying to OC the GPU?? I answered you 2 times already. IT IS OF NO USE! GPU OC will even slow things down due to heating up like hell! RAM connection is the bottleneck in our case, so it won't help at all, except your goal is the kill the phone to buy a new one very quickly...
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you know that ram bandwidth is not that far off from the 801 models ...
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you know that ram bandwidth is not that far off from the 801 models ...
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Feel free to continue searching for it and then be disappointed. I warned you ^^
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Feel free to continue searching for it and then be disappointed. I warned you ^^
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ok thank you for the input, goodluck