GPS data not working with LTE activated? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

GPS data retrieval not working when LTE activated?
Noticed this when inside building and requesting GPS location.
Anybody else experiencing this problem?
Note: I also notice the GPS lock icon coming on every 15 minutes, searching for location for up to 2 minutes at a time. App info for this notification: system UI.

Not sure if serious

Daniel Dumile said:
Not sure if serious
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??
Connect to LTE on ur Nexus 4 try it, my brother tried it on his Nexus 4, same issue.
Just to clarify this is "GSM/LTE", not "LTE only".
Rogers network/Canada
I was unable to place calls on "LTE only" (also not sure why)

Daniel Dumile said:
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There's been some discussion in this thread about issues with LTE and GPS.

1) Turn off LTE
2) Leave LTE off
3) Stop obsessing with LTE
Seriously tho, why does everyone have a hardon for LTE?

Taijohnsen said:
1) Turn off LTE
2) Leave LTE off
3) Stop obsessing with LTE
Seriously tho, why does everyone have a hardon for LTE?
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30-70mbps... Ask yourself why? It's literally light speed. I got 60-something Mbps down the other day.

I'm having the same issue. Gps locks on 3g just fine but doesn't seem get locked on 4g.

Yea really wishing somebody could find a fix to this.. There is an underlying reason

THE_KINGDOM said:
Yea really wishing somebody could find a fix to this.. There is an underlying reason
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Its the same reason for why the other things in 4.2.2 don't work with the old radios, the device isn't supposed to have LTE, Google purposely broke things to stop you from using it.

thracemerin said:
Its the same reason for why the other things in 4.2.2 don't work with the old radios, the device isn't supposed to have LTE, Google purposely broke things to stop you from using it.
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Bro sometimes u seem like a big advocate of restrictions.
There is always a fix especially in the developing world of Android, it's just nobody has bothered because many areas don't have LTE or because whoever is using a fix, didn't make it public. Period.
Who gives a **** what the phone is "supposed to have" what it does have is a band-4 LTE chip. PERIOD.
Hardware is hardware.
"Oh hey I have a lambo with 500hp which is governor at 120kmh max speed, because you're not supposed to drive over the speed limit." - I'm sorry but in this case people would remove the governor and drive faster.

THE_KINGDOM said:
Bro sometimes u seem like a big advocate of restrictions.
There is always a fix especially in the developing world of Android, it's just nobody has bothered because many areas don't have LTE or because whoever is using a fix, didn't make it public. Period.
Who gives a **** what the phone is "supposed to have" what it does have is a band-4 LTE chip. PERIOD.
Hardware is hardware.
"Oh hey I have a lambo with 500hp which is governor at 120kmh max speed, because you're not supposed to drive over the speed limit." - I'm sorry but in this case people would remove the governor and drive faster.
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You're right, except that the problems are in closed source modules, if you want to try your hand at hex editing them and fixing the problems, go ahead, otherwise you should use the phone as it was designed or live with the problems that come with using it in a way it wasn't designed.

Related

GPS fix gets some media attention...finally.

Engadget posted an article today berrating Samsung and Tmo for allowibg the vibrant to ship in non-working form. Check out their editorial.
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http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/08/02/wheres-the-gps-fix-for-the-samsung-vibrant-and-captivate/
Update: We've just received an official statement from Samsung on the matter:
"Samsung Mobile is aware that under certain conditions, the GPS on our U.S. Galaxy S devices may not be meeting performance expectations. We are diligently evaluating the situation and will provide an update as soon as possible."
hopefully media attention will prompt samsung to addressing it as timely as possible
Kind of sad this is what it takes to get them to fix something. I don't think it's been determined whether it's just a software glitch, or something more serious like hardware that requires a revision. Software can be pushed to the phone, where a new chip can't.
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Kind of sad this is what it takes to get them to fix something. I don't think it's been determined whether it's just a software glitch, or something more serious like hardware that requires a revision. Software can be pushed to the phone, where a new chip can't.
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They're already aware. If you think Engadget posting this crap to their mobile site weeks after even THEY experienced their first issue with GPS is what it "takes" for Samsung to acknowledge the problem you're sadly mistaken. This is NO different from what they posted on Twitter
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
The more media coverage, however late, this gets the better. Do you think apple would have moved so quickly on their "fix" were it not for the ridiculous media coverage?
I hope some more mainstream news outlets pick up on this. That might force more than a canned response from samsung.
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blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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the only issue I've had is once I turn on gps then open maps, it freezes maps to the point of a reboot needed. Other than that the gps works great
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heygrl said:
They're already aware. If you think Engadget posting this crap to their mobile site weeks after even THEY experienced their first issue with GPS is what it "takes" for Samsung to acknowledge the problem you're sadly mistaken. This is NO different from what they posted on Twitter
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+1
i'm sure they are working on a fix. but they are working on 2.2, launching the epic, etc. as well. i'm fine waiting for a real fix, not some quickly hacked together patch that isn't properly tested.
or cm6, whichever happens first.
= P
blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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I wasn't at first either, but then it started. Every device has the problem, just not 100% of the time.
It will be fixed very soon, though. This is Samsung's top priority right now.
blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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no. I also didn't have issues with the GPS.
At least, not until I began thinking that I was just missing something and tried one of the "fixes" on my device. Now my GPS reception is noticeably worse than stock.
blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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Try this...disable "use wireless networks" under "location and security"(this will let the phone use JUST the GPS receiver), then download and install Googles "My Tracks" app. Run that app while driving a long distance, and see just how accurate your GPS is.
ultra spikey said:
Try this...disable "use wireless networks" under "location and security"(this will let the phone use JUST the GPS receiver), then download and install Googles "My Tracks" app. Run that app while driving a long distance, and see just how accurate your GPS is.
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Why would I want to disable that, though?
I don't doubt that the issue exists, but I'm not going to go out of my way to experience it. I'm no masochist...
If the phone is using Wireless Networks for a location fix in your car the accuracy would be awful and noticeably off.
heygrl said:
They're already aware. If you think Engadget posting this crap to their mobile site weeks after even THEY experienced their first issue with GPS is what it "takes" for Samsung to acknowledge the problem you're sadly mistaken. This is NO different from what they posted on Twitter
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yes - especially if other media pick up on it, and verizon & sprint catch wind of it and actually test theirs before releasing - that would be the real pressure point on sammy
At least Samsung isn't saying this is our fault or round up a bunch of competitors' phones and say they have the same issues. The fact that they say they're evaluating the situation makes it sound like the fix isn't coming any time soon.
jkcheng122 said:
At least Samsung isn't saying this is our fault or round up a bunch of competitors' phones and say they have the same issues. The fact that they say they're evaluating the situation makes it sound like the fix isn't coming any time soon.
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+1
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Last time samsung had to "look into" something, behold 2 didn't get the upgrade it was promised.
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daddysays said:
Last time samsung had to "look into" something, behold 2 didn't get the upgrade it was promised.
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true, but nearly everyone knew the behold was a pile of crap from the get go.
the galaxy s is launching in over 100 countries, including every major carrier in the US. they are projected to sell over 10 million handsets. samsung lives or dies by this phone, IMO. i can understand frustration from their previous handsets, but if they drop the ball on the galaxy s, they might as well get out of the business all together.

speed fun

hi everyone
this is my bad news
i just got my nexus s
and i still own my galaxy s
now same phone provider(optus australia) same Apn setting this is speed result?
Galaxy S: 4.92 download
1.12 uploading
Nexus S: 2.21 download
1.05 uploading
what also i can see i got H on my Galaxy but only 3g on my Nexux s
well for sure this make the different i believe but why for the same Apn tested in the same place??
now we have to fing the answare
Mr Gee
The answer is that Google don't seem to like the H icon and therefore disables it. The phone still works fine on HSPA, it just doesn't display it.
i can understand
but the different in speed?
gerardo66 said:
i can understand
but the different in speed?
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Have you done multiple tests against multiple servers at different times of the day and averaged the results?
I can truly see a difference of 50% or more from one test to another sometimes, even when ran just a few minutes apart. Network traffic is just funny that way.
The other thing you might want to do to validate your comparisons is get the Antennas app from the Market (it's free) and make sure both phones are actually connecting to the same tower. They should be, but if you're in an overlapping tower area, they might not be due to load balancing by the network.
i will try
so definitely is not H on nexus S?
gerardo66 said:
i will try
so definitely is not H on nexus S?
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You will never see an H indicator on the Nexus S with the current stock firmwares. You'd need to flash a modded ROM or modify your frameworks file yourself to get it.
The phone is definitely capable of H speeds, though.
Same here in Florida. Vibrant gets 5 or 6 mbps down and 1.6 up while NS gets a max of 2 or 3 down and 900 k up
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Thank elkavayo
you confirm my felling
so now what is this problem? how we solve?
elkavayo said:
Same here in Florida. Vibrant gets 5 or 6 mbps down and 1.6 up while NS gets a max of 2 or 3 down and 900 k up
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gerardo66 said:
Thank elkavayo
you confirm my felling
so now what is this problem? how we solve?
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Have you guys called T-Mo customer service and asked them to look into the problem relative to your individual phone?
They'll probably tell you to try a new SIM card (if you're using the one you had on an older device).
The phone is capable of faster speeds than you're seeing. It should get comparable to a Vibrant.
my sim i three week old
i will try to swap with sim from gs and test again
to be continued
I'm going to start throatpunching people who ask this question.
Just because you don't see an "H" in the framework, doesn't mean you're not connecting to the HSDPA.
Start downloading something then type in *#*4636#*#* in the dialer. Look at "Phone Info" and watch the "Network Type." You'll notice a few seconds after it starts downloading, it'll switch from UMTS(3G) to HSDPA(also 3G).
Hi Unremarked
have you try the code your self?
i try and give me wrong code!!
gerardo66 said:
Hi Unremarked
have you try the code your self?
i try and give me wrong code!!
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*#*#4636#*#*
Typed too fast, my fault.
Or you can find the same info in Settings > About > Status
I love my vibrant, so fast so reliable so quick...to me nexus s is a downgrade
I have both the SNS and the SGS
SGS is on Fido
SNS on Wind
both gets a top speed down speed of 2800+ Mbps
and aprox 800+ Mbps up stream
that just gives you an idea that the SNS works properly, it might simply be the capacity load of the cell tower you were connected to
distortedloop said:
Have you guys called T-Mo customer service and asked them to look into the problem relative to your individual phone?
They'll probably tell you to try a new SIM card (if you're using the one you had on an older device).
The phone is capable of faster speeds than you're seeing. It should get comparable to a Vibrant.
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Nothing wrong with the phones or SIM. Has to do with the modem. Flashing different modems on the vibrant have the same effect. Some modems are more aggressive, but use more battery. Nexus One stock gets same download speed as nexus S. I'm sure most NS and Vibrant will perform the same in the same geographical area.
BTW, you don't get the same download speeds everywhere. At home I get 2mbps but at work, about noon, I get close to 6 (with the vibrant) and close to 3 with NS.
In any case, 2mbps is pretty good. I won't go and exchange my phone because of that. I have learned to enjoy my NS as opposed to look for any possible thing that makes it not perfect in the eyes of "my friends"
zc4life said:
I love my vibrant, so fast so reliable so quick...to me nexus s is a downgrade
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cool.. if you love it so much, why are you on the Nexus S forum trying to discourage other people about the phone? Not trying to be rude or anything but posts saying Nexus S is a downgrade compared to X phone is just really annoying.
Heh
zephiK said:
cool.. if you love it so much, why are you on the Nexus S forum trying to discourage other people about the phone? Not trying to be rude or anything but posts saying Nexus S is a downgrade compared to X phone is just really annoying.
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Im not trying to be rude but it is what it is...
AllGamer said:
I have both the SNS and the SGS
SGS is on Fido
SNS on Wind
both gets a top speed down speed of 2800+ Mbps
and aprox 800+ Mbps up stream
that just gives you an idea that the SNS works properly, it might simply be the capacity load of the cell tower you were connected to
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you do mean Kbps right?
2800 Mbps would be 933.33 MBps and that's <b><u>CRAZY</u></b> fast lol

Mixing KB1 Phone.apk and JS3 Phone.apk for Network Operators?

As some of you know, all Captivate ROMs are Flawed by AT&T, but have Audience chip.
If not my passion to use all the features of the device i have, i would go to JS3, or some other ROM.
But I need a feature to Select 2G, 2G/3G, 3G modes in Settings -> Wireless and Network -> Mobile Networks -> Network Operators.
Can anyone teach me how to mix APKs or can do this for me?
I am already looking to differences in de-compiled APKs, but i see i might, and will, make errors.
Also i feel like i have a bad knowledge about Signing process of APKs....
Anyone to help?
Good luck with that. Really not sure how that works or if it works at all. But you can use this program to sign your apks's with. Hope that helps.
Klyentel said:
Good luck with that. Really not sure how that works or if it works at all. But you can use this program to sign your apks's with. Hope that helps.
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You don't sign system apps. Ever.
Any high level developers willing to help? I am not familiar with dalvik byte code as well as Java... I am a PHP programmer
MikeyMike01 said:
You don't sign system apps. Ever.
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I never suggested to do so, I said APK's in general, besides system apps can be installed as user apps.
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Anyone ever tried to edit phone.apk smali's for normal network selection screen?
Mix them. See what you get. Don't forget to include PhoneUtil.apk as well. If it doesn't work then you ll most probably need framework change and audio libs replaced too. But if the audio libs are not compatible with the rest of the system then... theres not much you can do. Why don't you just wait till the audience driver is implemented in i9000 kernels/roms?
Why don't wanna wait? Cos it requires not only porting a kernel, but also modding Phone*.apk and libs too to i9000 rom
Yuna said:
Why don't wanna wait? Cos it requires not only porting a kernel, but also modding Phone*.apk and libs too to i9000 rom
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That's why I mentioned kernels and roms
I know I can't do it. But i know a lot of people want this thingy
Yuna said:
I know I can't do it. But i know a lot of people want this thingy
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A lot of us are anxiously awaiting for this but I'm not sure how much effort is actually being made for it. If I were a DEV it would probably be number one for me now as IMO this will be a huge accomplishment. I know icezar definitely has the smarts to do it. But people not is the USA that has never experianced the chip's call quality do not know what they are missing.
But people not is the USA that has never experianced the chip's call quality do not know what they are missing.
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Hmm, you mean this feature working only on AT&T? LoL
Yuna said:
Hmm, you mean this feature working only on AT&T? LoL
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No, the fact that it is only available on the AT&T version of the captivate.
Hm... Okay, but why people HERE using the captivate don't wanna port those features to i9000 roms?
First, in order to get the audience chip to work you must use the KB1 modem.
First and foremost, that kills HSUPA, which in my opinion helps data to the point of screw the audience chip.
But, to continue, if you use a KB1 Modem / kernel with an i9000 ROM, the audience chip is enabled by default, and will function you just cannot turn it off. Since the software for i9000 is unaware of this feature the kernel never turns it off, thus the modem uses it and you get the benefit, but with NO HSUPA.
So I suppose the bottom line is that if you want that audience chip, you may as well stick with stock or simply use cognition. Cog is the best of both worlds imo, as far as "fixed from ATT stock broken" and added features.
For me, I dismissed the audience chip long ago in favor of HSUPA..
but with NO HSUPA.
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i don't care - i have no support for it here, only hsdpa - that' does not matters to me, and not argument.
if i want faster internet, i go to home/work where i have 100mbps connection for just 12$
is unaware of this feature the kernel never turns it off
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hmm, never heard of this PoV. heard about reboots after call completed etc.
People are still wasting time on this crap? Take the faster internet (read: a real, noticeable improvement) and don't look back.
It's not crap. I'm with ya Yuna
I897, Tapatalk-
I have spoken.
Anyone knows KB1 based kernels WITH not voodoo conversion? e.g speedmod like - i prefer manual
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if you use a KB1 Modem / kernel with an i9000 ROM, the audience chip is enabled by default, and will function you just cannot turn it off. Since the software for i9000 is unaware of this feature the kernel never turns it off, thus the modem uses it and you get the benefit,
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Yuna said:
hmm, never heard of this PoV. heard about reboots after call completed etc.
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Confirm. I tried KB1 modem and overstock1.3 (captivate KB1 based) on Andromeda3/Darky9.5 and received reboots and noise in call without voice.

New Evo GPS Drivers

Has anyone tried using the new EVO GPS Drivers? I'm curious is this will help us out at all. Its supposed to work with all AOSP roms I'm pretty sure. I just flshed it and will try it out later.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14534313&postcount=2478
I think the better question is does the EVO and the Shift have the same GPS chip. Remember for the most part they're different phones.
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I actually flashed them on to my shift without knowing and they worked great. Got 9/9 satellites in GPS status in less than 30 seconds, but now my GPS is acting wonky, really hard to get a lock and lucky if I get 1 satellite. It would be really nice if we could get a developer to port those drivers to speedy.
what tells you that that driver is better than the one the shift already have?
evo and the shift are the same in name only.
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finalhit said:
what tells you that that driver is better than the one the shift already have?
evo and the shift are the same in name only.
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Just read the threads. People are enjoying a vast improvement in GPS performance with those drivers. I PMed Galandy to see if he can help with Speedy.
VICODAN said:
Just read the threads. People are enjoying a vast improvement in GPS performance with those drivers. I PMed Galandy to see if he can help with Speedy.
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But it appears that your gps is acting up now right? So maybe the phone the drivers are made for gets improved GPS not so much every phone because like ronoverdrive said the only thing the evo and shift have in common is name, internals are totally different
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I've never had issues with my GPS.
IT would be nice if there would be an update for the shift GPS drivers, mine always shows me like a block away from my actual location its frustrating as hell. Its the only drawback I have had switching from a Transform to the Shift.
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IT would be nice if there would be an update for the shift GPS drivers, mine always shows me like a block away from my actual location its frustrating as hell. Its the only drawback I have had switching from a Transform to the Shift.
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Turn off "use wifi networks" in location settings.
strapped365 said:
But it appears that your gps is acting up now right? So maybe the phone the drivers are made for gets improved GPS not so much every phone because like ronoverdrive said the only thing the evo and shift have in common is name, internals are totally different
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It seems to be somewhat working better now, but I have to be outdoors. I'm still experimenting with it. I think Sprint might have had issues in my area the past few days.
VICODAN said:
It seems to be somewhat working better now, but I have to be outdoors. I'm still experimenting with it. I think Sprint might have had issues in my area the past few days.
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I didnt think GPS was network dependant? But who am i to say so, Are you sure the other phones drivers are not causing problems
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strapped365 said:
I didnt think GPS was network dependant? But who am i to say so, Are you sure the other phones drivers are not causing problems
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Yeah I'm sure. Because the other drivers flash something.supersonic.so and the rom wouldn't use that on shift it would use the speedy.so library.
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Yeah I'm sure. Because the other drivers flash something.supersonic.so and the rom wouldn't use that on shift it would use the speedy.so library.
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well supersonic is the evo and speedy is the shift...i just sold my rooted evo that was not activated and my gps was flawless so thats what brings me to the conclusion that GPS is not network dependant
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I didnt think GPS was network dependant? But who am i to say so, Are you sure the other phones drivers are not causing problems
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Our GPS like many Android phones are not pure GPS units and are actually Assisted GPS (AGPS). Rough location is first acquired from the network tower's or WiFi address's geo-location while the GPS attempts to get a satellite lock for a more refined location lock. This network dependence is why you can almost always get a fast lock on your phone and not on dedicated GPS units.
Well i had not openen maps or anything since my last flash and with no network on and no wifi on my gps still found me within 3 meters
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Turn off "use wifi networks" in location settings.
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Ok so I have to ask. Why do you say "turn off the setting for use WiFi Networks" ? I'm not saying your wrong I just want to here your logic. Because, any time Google Maps or Navigation has any issues locking on a location. The recommended thing to do is Turn On WiFi . Here's some interesting reading for you:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=81873
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20009223-265.html
http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/43553-google-maps-use-wifi-gps.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless
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Ok so I have to ask. Why do you say "turn off the setting for use WiFi Networks" ? I'm not saying your wrong I just want to here your logic. Because, any time Google Maps or Navigation has any issues locking on a location. The recommended thing to do is Turn On WiFi . Here's some interesting reading for you:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=81873
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20009223-265.html
http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/43553-google-maps-use-wifi-gps.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless
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Because it turns off the Network Assist and forces your phone to get a true GPS lock instead of just timing out. Network Assist is needed for when you can't get a location lock or to speed up the process. As far as Google Maps is concerned a rough location is better then no location when a narrow location GPS lock is taking a long time to acquire.
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Our GPS like many Android phones are not pure GPS units and are actually Assisted GPS (AGPS). Rough location is first acquired from the network tower's or WiFi address's geo-location while the GPS attempts to get a satellite lock for a more refined location lock. This network dependence is why you can almost always get a fast lock on your phone and not on dedicated GPS units.
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Very true, and I'd like to keep wifi assist off if possible but it seems that it just doesn't work that way. I think that might have been the problem I was experiencing was due to having wifi off.
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Very true, and I'd like to keep wifi assist off if possible but it seems that it just doesn't work that way. I think that might have been the problem I was experiencing was due to having wifi off.
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The thing is I was able to get a GPS lock indoors in my house with 9/9 satellites. Don't remember if Wifi assist was on or off. But I'm trying it in the office right now with wifi assist on and can't get 1 satellite with wifi assist on.
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The thing is I was able to get a GPS lock indoors in my house with 9/9 satellites. Don't remember if Wifi assist was on or off. But I'm trying it in the office right now with wifi assist on and can't get 1 satellite with wifi assist on.
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Which should bring us back to the main point...usuing GPS drivers meant for another phone might not be the best idea ever
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T-mobile is now giving free wifi router

Today I called t-mobile customer care for a few questions and before I got off the phone the rep asked me if I wanted a free router that gives great wifi calling, it use to cost $50 to get it but now is free. The only thigh you must know it's that if you decide to leave t-mobile you better return it or they will hit you with a nice bill.
Yeah that has been out for almost a 9 months.. Worth it
BAD ASS NOTE 4
Yea i got one yesterday havent set it up yet lol
Got it awhile back, it's a great router
Anyone know what model Asus it compares with? I have an RT-AC66U. If nothing else I figure T-Mos might make a nice extender.
Grims said:
Anyone know what model Asus it compares with? I have an RT-AC66U. If nothing else I figure T-Mos might make a nice extender.
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I haven't received it yet to tell you
Grims said:
Anyone know what model Asus it compares with? I have an RT-AC66U. If nothing else I figure T-Mos might make a nice extender.
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It ac68. The step up
BAD ASS NOTE 4
Grims said:
Anyone know what model Asus it compares with? I have an RT-AC66U. If nothing else I figure T-Mos might make a nice extender.
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It's actually the exact same hardware as the RT-AC68U. In fact I'm running builds of Merlin's custom RT-AC68U firmware on mine (I got mine soon after they became available before Tmo sent out an OTA that locked the bootloader).
Prior to getting my "cellspot", I actually had the exact same router that you do now The RT-AC66U is definitely a solid router, but I've found the 68U to be a fairly significant upgrade. I'd say that there's really no reason not to "rent" one for a refundable deposit. I was initially planning on keeping it for $100, but now I'm thinking that by the time I feel the need for a new router there will likely be better / newer models available for not too much more than that. Anyway, I get better and more consistent wifi performance with the 68 vs. the 66, it has more memory and more features (ex. QoS, which the 66U can't handle due to it packing less RAM), and if you decide to downgrade the bootloader to run custom firmware such as Merlin's (MAD soldering skills required!), then you can even overclock it!
So, yes, this is quite an excellent router. When Tmo started offering them gratis-ish it was some of the best hardware on the market. It's no longer top tier, but IME it's significantly better than the preceding Asus model. My only (minor) concern with getting one now is that I don't know how configurable the settings are with TMo's locked down config... still, for a refundable $25, I'd say it's worth at least checking one out; especially for people who don't have an AC router (every speed test I run from my N4 or tablet maxes out my 50 / 10 cable service... seriously, never seen a wifi speed test slower than like 47 Mbit down).
Oh btw, I'd almost definitely use the Cellspot as your main router. I initially planned on using my AC66U as a bridge or repeater or something, but as I live in an apt. and don't need a huge amount of space covered, my research into those kinds of applications generally made me feel that setting something like that up would "hurt" my LAN rather than help it. I did just find a good use for it though... I recently got a NAS with dual lan ports, so since my old router is just sitting around I'm going to configure it as a switch so that I can use port trunking. I don't want to discourage you from researching everything that could use an extra router for. A good site / forum for general home networking info with sort of an emphasis on Asus hardware (you'll also find the above mentioned Merlin there) is smallnetbuilder.com. Good luck all! I'm pretty familiar with many "cellspot" related things, so if anyone has any other questions I'd be happy to help or at least point you in the right direction :good:
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It's actually the exact same hardware as the RT-AC68U. In fact I'm running builds of Merlin's custom RT-AC68U firmware on mine (I got mine soon after they became available before Tmo sent out an OTA that locked the bootloader).
Prior to getting my "cellspot", I actually had the exact same router that you do now The RT-AC66U is definitely a solid router, but I've found the 68U to be a fairly significant upgrade. I'd say that there's really no reason not to "rent" one for a refundable deposit. I was initially planning on keeping it for $100, but now I'm thinking that by the time I feel the need for a new router there will likely be better / newer models available for not too much more than that. Anyway, I get better and more consistent wifi performance with the 68 vs. the 66, it has more memory and more features (ex. QoS, which the 66U can't handle due to it packing less RAM), and if you decide to downgrade the bootloader to run custom firmware such as Merlin's (MAD soldering skills required!), then you can even overclock it!
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Wow, thanks for all the info. That is a good deal then. It's too bad to hear about the bootloader getting locked. The RT-AC66U actually has QoS, but it turns off hardware acceleration. I tried to use it once and it all but killed my internet access. Kind of odd, I remember using QoS on my ancient linksys router 10 years ago running DDWRT.
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Wow, thanks for all the info. That is a good deal then. It's too bad to hear about the bootloader getting locked. The RT-AC66U actually has QoS, but it turns off hardware acceleration. I tried to use it once and it all but killed my internet access. Kind of odd, I remember using QoS on my ancient linksys router 10 years ago running DDWRT.
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Ah, my bad on the QoS... I leave QoS off, but that's one thing about the Cellspot: I'm pretty sure that it's enabled by default to prioritize VOIP and I don't think it's modifiable (the whole purpose being to "encourage'' wifi calling and all). I'm not sure if it does so to the degree that it'll slow down a download on a PC if you get a call... I suppose the biggest variable there is the speed of your connection. Actually by far, the most comprehensive source of info on it is actually a Slickdeals thread. It's insanely long, but the OP was edited into an extremely informative wiki! It is possible to downgrade the bootloader to flash alternative firmware, and doing so will actually cause it to identify itself on your network as an RT-68ACU rather than a TM-AC1900 and is explained by a guy named Engineer in that thread. It requires a pretty risky hardware mod involving some extremely precise soldering, but if you've got the skills I'd definitely recommend it. I'd like to actually do it myself sometime but need to work more on my soldering precision (semi OT but related to phones in a sense, I've gotten into buying relatively cheap headphones and modding them head-fi style to greatly improve the sq - classic ex. KSC75 )
Anyway, here's the thread with pretty much everything you'd want to know and more re: the cellspot https://slickdeals.net/f/7193262-t-...c-router-by-asus-free-for-postpaid-25-deposit
I have the T-Mobile router running on AP Mode since I use pfSense as my main router. I have been experiencing laggy internet on my Note 4. Not sure if it is related to QoS. I do hope T-Mobile releases a firmware update as their router is behind in updates compared to RT-AC68U.
Anyone else seeing this lag issue with TM-AC1900 router?
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I'm pretty sure that it's enabled by default to prioritize VOIP and I don't think it's modifiable [/url]
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The QoS feature is separate from the T-Mobile modifications. The tm1900ac still has the option to enable or disable QoS. Enabling this feature does turn off hardware acceleration though, just like an ac68u.
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The QoS feature is separate from the T-Mobile modifications. The tm1900ac still has the option to enable or disable QoS. Enabling this feature does turn off hardware acceleration though, just like an ac68u.
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Is this feature under AP mode as well?
Yup I've had the router for about 2 months and it's nice!!! It's only $99 if u buy it outright!
SPreston2001 said:
Yup I've had the router for about 2 months and it's nice!!! It's only $99 if u buy it outright!
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I just receive it today it's great
You can also opt to get the free signal Booster instead, if you don't have WiFi
dotson817 said:
You can also opt to get the free signal Booster instead, if you don't have WiFi
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So it's not a singnal booster? Just wifi calling?
joe1blue said:
So it's not a singnal booster? Just wifi calling?
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The cell booster does lte. U need lte in area for it to boost. The WiFi router does WiFi and WiFi calling boost but not cell signal
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BACARDILIMON said:
The cell booster does lte. U need lte in area for it to boost. The WiFi router does WiFi and WiFi calling boost but not cell signal
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So besides being a pricy router it doesn't do anything better than my old netgear that also allows me to do wifi calling?
joe1blue said:
So besides being a pricy router it doesn't do anything better than my old netgear that also allows me to do wifi calling?
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It depends on how technical your gonna get with it.. Setting it up stock blows any netgear or lnksys router right out of the water.
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