GPS fix gets some media attention...finally. - Vibrant General

Engadget posted an article today berrating Samsung and Tmo for allowibg the vibrant to ship in non-working form. Check out their editorial.
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http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/08/02/wheres-the-gps-fix-for-the-samsung-vibrant-and-captivate/

Update: We've just received an official statement from Samsung on the matter:
"Samsung Mobile is aware that under certain conditions, the GPS on our U.S. Galaxy S devices may not be meeting performance expectations. We are diligently evaluating the situation and will provide an update as soon as possible."

hopefully media attention will prompt samsung to addressing it as timely as possible

Kind of sad this is what it takes to get them to fix something. I don't think it's been determined whether it's just a software glitch, or something more serious like hardware that requires a revision. Software can be pushed to the phone, where a new chip can't.

thunderstruck! said:
Kind of sad this is what it takes to get them to fix something. I don't think it's been determined whether it's just a software glitch, or something more serious like hardware that requires a revision. Software can be pushed to the phone, where a new chip can't.
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They're already aware. If you think Engadget posting this crap to their mobile site weeks after even THEY experienced their first issue with GPS is what it "takes" for Samsung to acknowledge the problem you're sadly mistaken. This is NO different from what they posted on Twitter

Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?

The more media coverage, however late, this gets the better. Do you think apple would have moved so quickly on their "fix" were it not for the ridiculous media coverage?
I hope some more mainstream news outlets pick up on this. That might force more than a canned response from samsung.
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blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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the only issue I've had is once I turn on gps then open maps, it freezes maps to the point of a reboot needed. Other than that the gps works great
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heygrl said:
They're already aware. If you think Engadget posting this crap to their mobile site weeks after even THEY experienced their first issue with GPS is what it "takes" for Samsung to acknowledge the problem you're sadly mistaken. This is NO different from what they posted on Twitter
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i'm sure they are working on a fix. but they are working on 2.2, launching the epic, etc. as well. i'm fine waiting for a real fix, not some quickly hacked together patch that isn't properly tested.
or cm6, whichever happens first.
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blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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I wasn't at first either, but then it started. Every device has the problem, just not 100% of the time.
It will be fixed very soon, though. This is Samsung's top priority right now.

blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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no. I also didn't have issues with the GPS.
At least, not until I began thinking that I was just missing something and tried one of the "fixes" on my device. Now my GPS reception is noticeably worse than stock.

blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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Try this...disable "use wireless networks" under "location and security"(this will let the phone use JUST the GPS receiver), then download and install Googles "My Tracks" app. Run that app while driving a long distance, and see just how accurate your GPS is.

ultra spikey said:
Try this...disable "use wireless networks" under "location and security"(this will let the phone use JUST the GPS receiver), then download and install Googles "My Tracks" app. Run that app while driving a long distance, and see just how accurate your GPS is.
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Why would I want to disable that, though?
I don't doubt that the issue exists, but I'm not going to go out of my way to experience it. I'm no masochist...

If the phone is using Wireless Networks for a location fix in your car the accuracy would be awful and noticeably off.

heygrl said:
They're already aware. If you think Engadget posting this crap to their mobile site weeks after even THEY experienced their first issue with GPS is what it "takes" for Samsung to acknowledge the problem you're sadly mistaken. This is NO different from what they posted on Twitter
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yes - especially if other media pick up on it, and verizon & sprint catch wind of it and actually test theirs before releasing - that would be the real pressure point on sammy

At least Samsung isn't saying this is our fault or round up a bunch of competitors' phones and say they have the same issues. The fact that they say they're evaluating the situation makes it sound like the fix isn't coming any time soon.

jkcheng122 said:
At least Samsung isn't saying this is our fault or round up a bunch of competitors' phones and say they have the same issues. The fact that they say they're evaluating the situation makes it sound like the fix isn't coming any time soon.
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Last time samsung had to "look into" something, behold 2 didn't get the upgrade it was promised.
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daddysays said:
Last time samsung had to "look into" something, behold 2 didn't get the upgrade it was promised.
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true, but nearly everyone knew the behold was a pile of crap from the get go.
the galaxy s is launching in over 100 countries, including every major carrier in the US. they are projected to sell over 10 million handsets. samsung lives or dies by this phone, IMO. i can understand frustration from their previous handsets, but if they drop the ball on the galaxy s, they might as well get out of the business all together.

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Sprint Epic 4G Update Brings Faster Uploads Tomorrow

Sprint Epic 4G Update Brings Faster Uploads Tomorrow
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By: Chuong Nguyen | 5:06 PM 29-Sep-10 | 0 Comments
Forum member dshoem01 on Sprint's community forums has promised that the carrier will be releasing an update to the Sprint Epic 4G that will be coming tomorrow, September 30th, and will be rolled out over the air over four days. The firmware update should fix the slow upload speeds that Epic 4G owners have been experiencing, which caps their uploads to a measly 150 kbps on Sprint's 3G network. According to the forum post, "Good news - an update will be released tomorrow 9/30. It will be rolled out over a 4 day period so not everyone will get it on day 1. I will have the standard MR information (fixes included, rollout schedule, etc) available tomorrow morning and will post it in a new featured thread."
(via: Engadget)
http://pocketnow.com/android/sprint-epic-4g-update-brings-faster-uploads-tomorrow
cant wait to see someone use this in there rom
blastboi said:
Sprint Epic 4G Update Brings Faster Uploads Tomorrow
File under: News
By: Chuong Nguyen | 5:06 PM 29-Sep-10 | 0 Comments
Forum member dshoem01 on Sprint's community forums has promised that the carrier will be releasing an update to the Sprint Epic 4G that will be coming tomorrow, September 30th, and will be rolled out over the air over four days. The firmware update should fix the slow upload speeds that Epic 4G owners have been experiencing, which caps their uploads to a measly 150 kbps on Sprint's 3G network. According to the forum post, "Good news - an update will be released tomorrow 9/30. It will be rolled out over a 4 day period so not everyone will get it on day 1. I will have the standard MR information (fixes included, rollout schedule, etc) available tomorrow morning and will post it in a new featured thread."
(via: Engadget)
http://pocketnow.com/android/sprint-epic-4g-update-brings-faster-uploads-tomorrow
cant wait to see someone use this in there rom
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FYI, i take anything Engadget posts with a HUGE grain of salt. Not saying it won't come tomorrow, I have faith it will. But the article on Epic Problems was written by a guy who's top devices are a Netbook, an XBOX 360 and the Palm Pre. This guy wouldn't know good hardware if it *****slapped him in the face.
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FYI, i take anything Engadget posts with a HUGE grain of salt. Not saying it won't come tomorrow, I have faith it will. But the article on Epic Problems was written by a guy who's top devices are a Netbook, an XBOX 360 and the Palm Pre. This guy wouldn't know good hardware if it *****slapped him in the face.
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lol thx for the heads up
rufflez2010 said:
FYI, i take anything Engadget posts with a HUGE grain of salt. Not saying it won't come tomorrow, I have faith it will. But the article on Epic Problems was written by a guy who's top devices are a Netbook, an XBOX 360 and the Palm Pre. This guy wouldn't know good hardware if it *****slapped him in the face.
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That article was pretty accurate. The Epic has some pretty serious issues.
drizek said:
That article was pretty accurate. The Epic has some pretty serious issues.
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The only one I've ever experienced was the 3G upload. and it just isn't a big deal for me right now. Plus, fix is in the works.
People who have the market download problem didn't clear their cache before flashing a ROM. That's no one's fault except the person who flashed the ROM. The only time I've had anything fail in the market is when I was actively switching from wifi to 3g or vice versa. Download restarted fine with no issues.
GPS, sorry, just don't experience them. I apologize for those with them, but I just have not had an issue getting a lock when I'm outdoors. I travel to different stores everyday for work, and I've never had an issue navigating there. GPS/Maps way better on this phone than Hero, which frequently put me on some side road instead of the current one, and no one *****es about that phone's GPS issues.
rufflez2010 said:
The only one I've ever experienced was the 3G upload. and it just isn't a big deal for me right now. Plus, fix is in the works.
People who have the market download problem didn't clear their cache before flashing a ROM. That's no one's fault except the person who flashed the ROM. The only time I've had anything fail in the market is when I was actively switching from wifi to 3g or vice versa. Download restarted fine with no issues.
GPS, sorry, just don't experience them. I apologize for those with them, but I just have not had an issue getting a lock when I'm outdoors. I travel to different stores everyday for work, and I've never had an issue navigating there. GPS/Maps way better on this phone than Hero, which frequently put me on some side road instead of the current one, and no one *****es about that phone's GPS issues.
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I didn't have GPS issues at first, but eventually I started to experience it. The biggest problem though is the battery drain that can basically kill the whole thing in 4-5 hours.
drizek said:
I didn't have GPS issues at first, but eventually I started to experience it. The biggest problem though is the battery drain that can basically kill the whole thing in 4-5 hours.
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Seriously, this update needs to fix the 3G battery drain that is killing this phone. Fixing the GPS would be nice too, but upload speeds are a distant third on the list of stuff that needs to be fixed ASAP...
FUGGG. Just remembered that I'm gonna have to re-install all the Sprint/Samsung apps to get this update like i did last time. -___-
As least I will remember how to do it this time!
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NeonMonster said:
FUGGG. Just remembered that I'm gonna have to re-install all the Sprint/Samsung apps to get this update like i did last time. -___-
As least I will remember how to do it this time!
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Lol, yeah.
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I just got a prl update pushed to me as I was resetting my phone. My rom is stock though I have a modified kernel. I have bad 3g signal here but I have full 3g/4g bars at work. I suppose today we find out!
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I thought its already been uncapped?
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Input your msl (find it using adb command getprop, look for msl in readout)
Change rtsp proxy to 0.0.0.0 and rtsp proxy port to 0
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http://forum.sdx-developers.com/android-2-1/%28solved%29-android-2-1-streaming-apps/
NeonMonster said:
FUGGG. Just remembered that I'm gonna have to re-install all the Sprint/Samsung apps to get this update like i did last time. -___-
As least I will remember how to do it this time!
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you won't if you just wait for the devs on here to give us one flashable via clockwork. might take an extra day or few but its worth the wait if you think about it
HeroHTC said:
I thought its already been uncapped?
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Input your msl (find it using adb command getprop, look for msl in readout)
Change rtsp proxy to 0.0.0.0 and rtsp proxy port to 0
Credit goes to CHIBUCKS at SDX-Developers:
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/android-2-1/(solved)-android-2-1-streaming-apps/
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Just tried this but its still the same. Make a new thread concerning this please..
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HeroHTC said:
I thought its already been uncapped?
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Input your msl (find it using adb command getprop, look for msl in readout)
Change rtsp proxy to 0.0.0.0 and rtsp proxy port to 0
Credit goes to CHIBUCKS at SDX-Developers:
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/android-2-1/%28solved%29-android-2-1-streaming-apps/
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This does not uncap the upload speed, it just doesn't route your internet traffic through a proxy anymore, after you change this.
What is the PRL version number for the updated PRL?
I got a PRL update today but not sure if i just didn't update it in the past.
Version
60671
scriz said:
This does not uncap the upload speed, it just doesn't route your internet traffic through a proxy anymore, after you change this.
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So does this help with our high lag/ ping issue?
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stinger4321 said:
So does this help with our high lag/ ping issue?
I would also like to know if this does fix the latency issues the phone has or the ping which really blows ...
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Well I changed mine to eliminate the proxy and with 2bars of signal on 3g I got a ping of 145 with speedtest app also it now shows a server thats actually near me . The same server when I test the 4g speeds! That could bed the reason for a lower ping though
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Also when I ran it multiple times I recieved 180kbps upload everytime. This is the highest I have seen it on 3g
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Gps

Why do people need gps on their phones? this is a serious question
I have never needed or used gps in my life
I like using maps better I guess
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My biggest uses:
Find restaurants/activities near me to try new things (or in a new location)
Geo-caching - fun way to hike
Navigation - maps are dangerous and slow to use in a car, annoying to carry, and out of date depending on your source. Phones aren't the best for this but Android's Navigation is basically the cream of the crop.
Um if you dont know what good a gps is you really need to get into the tech. age.
I use it for EVERYTHING.
The real key is that I use google maps to look up anyone or anything around me. My friends all use latitude on weekend nights so we can find each other. If my gps doesn't show where I am how are friends supposed to find me?
I use it for pizza on a random night... or out on the boat when I'm going to a restaurant on the water.....or on a Friday afternoon when traffic is horrible and I want an alternate route.
There's plenty of reasons why the GPS NEEDS TO ACTUALLY WORK on this phone.
Well I'm not making an excuse for the gps problems I just have never needed gps is all
barely any of my friends have an android phone
Still stuck on blackberry and feature phones
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I use GPS to navigate around unfamiliar locations. I cannot memorize the entirety of the planet's geography so I must rely on tools to bridge this particular shortcoming and I cannot safely read a map while driving.
What the hell did you expect?
Just hoping for something I could use
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Google navigation is the best, ur in an unfamiliar city,got the munchies, u long press search button and say "navigate to subway" and voila! Ur guided to ur destination. And u hear oooh and aaah from ur buddies...
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<3me said:
Why do people need gps on their phones? this is a serious question
I have never needed or used gps in my life
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Gosh. Where to start: Geocaching; geotagging photos ("the accident|family snapshot|scenery is right here"); tracking athletic runs (Cardio Trainer, etc); self-geocoding of addresses to avoid intellectual property issues with online geocoding sources; geocoding any physical object surveyed for a multitude of GIS applications and databases; "I am here" apps for emergency use; wardriving; geo-based social networking; geo-based shopping (Barcoder, Shop Savvy, etc.); calibrating speedometer and odometer; orienteering; mapping trails; tracking hikes and bike rides; of course, real-time vehicular navigation; recording and analyzing delivery routes ...
The list is really open-ended, and is expanding as democratized GIS, mapping, and GPS functionalities expand.
The integration of GPS with other technologies on the "phone" -- really a pocket computer that happens to make phone calls and is enhanced by cell-based GPS hybrid location and thus orders of magnitude more useful than a dedicated GPS receiver-- is what provides the power. I can be driving down the highway at lunch, speak "Taco Bell" into my phone, and it will find the closest choices with directions on a dynamic map.
This is why an accurate and functioning GPS is integral to Android smartphones. It enables things you didn't even conceive of, and services still being invented.
Geographically-based "to do" items, so the phone alerts you when you're getting off the freeway and reminds you to stop at the grocery store to buy toilet paper and cat food on the way home from work.
Location-aware ringer preferences. At the office, it turns down the ringer volume so half the floor doesn't hear the theme from The Great Giana Sisters (starting at 2:18) performed by Machinae Supremacy whenever somebody calls
kynetx said:
I use GPS to navigate around unfamiliar locations. I cannot memorize the entirety of the planet's geography so I must rely on tools to bridge this particular shortcoming and I cannot safely read a map while driving.
What the hell did you expect?
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+1
Also not having to have a gps in your car that you worry about someone seeing and stealing
Bigjim1488 said:
+1
Also not having to have a gps in your car that you worry about someone seeing and stealing
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i dont ever go anywhere without knowing where im going
Well when visiting another state it isn't always possible to have intimate personal knowledge of places.
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Lol....I always say the same thing to my wife...I took of off my phone. Personally I think the **** is a waste on a phone. I can find almost anything I need without it. Although I am not one who travels throughout the country or has to make business trips to unfamiliar locations. So I can see pros and cons
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i dont ever go anywhere without knowing where im going
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Well then you need to expand your horizions Sometimes it's fun to go get lost and then of course have a nice gps to bring you home.
I use sprint nav when me and my friends get lost on a random night in the car or when we're driving with no where to go, I'll use sprint nav to get us to some random restaurant in another state or something.
I also use google maps to find trainstations nearby when I'm in some random part of the city. And when I went to my friends college 7 hours away, thebus had to make a random stop and I used it to figure out where I was.
Its also entertaining to ride a train and see a little blue arrow scrolling across the screen following your path with a Speedometer.
If you have intimateknowledge ofplaces bfore hand, then you have no reason for a gps considering you clearly don't care about the tecnology. This gps bug effects quite a few people adversely. I for one didn't realize how much I used gps until I upgraded from my hero
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<3me said:
i dont ever go anywhere without knowing where im going
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Dang, you must have a pretty limited set of places you go...
Except for going between work, home and the grocery store, I almost *never* know where I'm going. That's called "exploring your surroundings" and "finding new things to do".
<3me said:
Why do people need gps on their phones? this is a serious question
I have never needed or used gps in my life
I like using maps better I guess
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ok since you dont use them so i should not either...........I for one do like reading a map while driving and guessing when my upcoming turn is actually coming up......
I have a series question why do you care why I need/want a gps in my phone....
BrianDigital said:
ok since you dont use them so i should not either...........I for one do like reading a map while driving and guessing when my upcoming turn is actually coming up......
I have a series question why do you care why I need/want a gps in my phone....
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thats a great series of questions sir the answer is i do not care why i was hoping there might be something im missing like a feature thats too awesome for words or at least really useful
and to the first part its not a hate thread chill out
also read the map before you go so you dont have to read while driving *hits staples button*
badasscat said:
Dang, you must have a pretty limited set of places you go...
Except for going between work, home and the grocery store, I almost *never* know where I'm going. That's called "exploring your surroundings" and "finding new things to do".
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actually its not that limited i worked for fedex so i generally know where i am going though i dont travel alot

Android 2.3.3!!!

Here is the link:
http://android-developers.blogspot....id+Developers+Blog)&utm_content=Google+Reader
Looks exciting!!
mmanjj said:
Here is the link:
http://android-developers.blogspot....id+Developers+Blog)&utm_content=Google+Reader
Looks exciting!!
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Very cool! More NFC functionality is awesome, IMO! Thanks for posting man!
Now where's the manual download link
Too bad it doesn't include the Random Reboot fix, as that (IMO) is a much more needed update. *smh*
http://androidandme.com/2011/02/pho...s-new-nfc-features-random-reboot-bug-remains/
how come i didnt get the update???
Same as before; roll-out is staggered so not everyone will auto-download it on day-1. Could try calling *#*#checkin#*#* & see if that kicks it in... didn't for me though. Hence the hope someone posts the file so it can be manually installed
Noone has it yet, be patient
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this update doesn't really give any benefit to the users right?
looking forward to the OTA update
Excited about NFC, but far more disappointed by lack of major bug fixes.
More locales inside? Any one knows something about this?
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2012iawait said:
this update doesn't really give any benefit to the users right?
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Not unless you really love NFC.
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Not unless you really love NFC.
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disagree. This will allow users to share contact info directly from phone to phone. it will also allow you to write to NFC tags which can be very cool. So for example, I have a watch I wear that is a NFC tag with 4k of memory. With the new release I can write change the content of what is on that tag. Right now I keep it as my contact info.
Who said major bugs won't be fixed? Clearly google decided to showcase 2.3.3 because of the NFC thing. Fixed bugs has never been showcased in change logs by google. So there is still hope!!!
I once had the idea of using NFC as input for password, like an electronic key. This will allow greater convenience once device level encryption is supported. I hope this can be realized some day.
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Who said major bugs won't be fixed? Clearly google decided to showcase 2.3.3 because of the NFC thing. Fixed bugs has never been showcased in change logs by google. So there is still hope!!!
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Yeah, the idea of true changelogs is apparently alien to Google's Android team.
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Yeah, the idea of true changelogs is apparently alien to Google's Android team.
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Hehe they take their cues from Team Douche I'm sure there will be more fixes and alterations than that post implied so I wouldn't be too worried about it not stating specifically what is changing.
Si_NZ said:
I once had the idea of using NFC as input for password, like an electronic key. This will allow greater convenience once device level encryption is supported. I hope this can be realized some day.
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The hardware supports it. NFC with a secure element provides a new level of security. Just needs to be implemented in items. they already have house locks and car door locks that use this type of system. Just need PCs to adopt it too.
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The hardware supports it. NFC with a secure element provides a new level of security. Just needs to be implemented in items. they already have house locks and car door locks that use this type of system. Just need PCs to adopt it too.
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My understanding is that technology uses RFID not NFC.
Will this install on a stock, rooted ROM on a custom kernel?
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New Evo GPS Drivers

Has anyone tried using the new EVO GPS Drivers? I'm curious is this will help us out at all. Its supposed to work with all AOSP roms I'm pretty sure. I just flshed it and will try it out later.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14534313&postcount=2478
I think the better question is does the EVO and the Shift have the same GPS chip. Remember for the most part they're different phones.
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I actually flashed them on to my shift without knowing and they worked great. Got 9/9 satellites in GPS status in less than 30 seconds, but now my GPS is acting wonky, really hard to get a lock and lucky if I get 1 satellite. It would be really nice if we could get a developer to port those drivers to speedy.
what tells you that that driver is better than the one the shift already have?
evo and the shift are the same in name only.
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finalhit said:
what tells you that that driver is better than the one the shift already have?
evo and the shift are the same in name only.
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Just read the threads. People are enjoying a vast improvement in GPS performance with those drivers. I PMed Galandy to see if he can help with Speedy.
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Just read the threads. People are enjoying a vast improvement in GPS performance with those drivers. I PMed Galandy to see if he can help with Speedy.
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But it appears that your gps is acting up now right? So maybe the phone the drivers are made for gets improved GPS not so much every phone because like ronoverdrive said the only thing the evo and shift have in common is name, internals are totally different
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I've never had issues with my GPS.
IT would be nice if there would be an update for the shift GPS drivers, mine always shows me like a block away from my actual location its frustrating as hell. Its the only drawback I have had switching from a Transform to the Shift.
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IT would be nice if there would be an update for the shift GPS drivers, mine always shows me like a block away from my actual location its frustrating as hell. Its the only drawback I have had switching from a Transform to the Shift.
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Turn off "use wifi networks" in location settings.
strapped365 said:
But it appears that your gps is acting up now right? So maybe the phone the drivers are made for gets improved GPS not so much every phone because like ronoverdrive said the only thing the evo and shift have in common is name, internals are totally different
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It seems to be somewhat working better now, but I have to be outdoors. I'm still experimenting with it. I think Sprint might have had issues in my area the past few days.
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It seems to be somewhat working better now, but I have to be outdoors. I'm still experimenting with it. I think Sprint might have had issues in my area the past few days.
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I didnt think GPS was network dependant? But who am i to say so, Are you sure the other phones drivers are not causing problems
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I didnt think GPS was network dependant? But who am i to say so, Are you sure the other phones drivers are not causing problems
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Yeah I'm sure. Because the other drivers flash something.supersonic.so and the rom wouldn't use that on shift it would use the speedy.so library.
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Yeah I'm sure. Because the other drivers flash something.supersonic.so and the rom wouldn't use that on shift it would use the speedy.so library.
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well supersonic is the evo and speedy is the shift...i just sold my rooted evo that was not activated and my gps was flawless so thats what brings me to the conclusion that GPS is not network dependant
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strapped365 said:
I didnt think GPS was network dependant? But who am i to say so, Are you sure the other phones drivers are not causing problems
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Our GPS like many Android phones are not pure GPS units and are actually Assisted GPS (AGPS). Rough location is first acquired from the network tower's or WiFi address's geo-location while the GPS attempts to get a satellite lock for a more refined location lock. This network dependence is why you can almost always get a fast lock on your phone and not on dedicated GPS units.
Well i had not openen maps or anything since my last flash and with no network on and no wifi on my gps still found me within 3 meters
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VICODAN said:
Turn off "use wifi networks" in location settings.
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Ok so I have to ask. Why do you say "turn off the setting for use WiFi Networks" ? I'm not saying your wrong I just want to here your logic. Because, any time Google Maps or Navigation has any issues locking on a location. The recommended thing to do is Turn On WiFi . Here's some interesting reading for you:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=81873
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20009223-265.html
http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/43553-google-maps-use-wifi-gps.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless
prboy1969 said:
Ok so I have to ask. Why do you say "turn off the setting for use WiFi Networks" ? I'm not saying your wrong I just want to here your logic. Because, any time Google Maps or Navigation has any issues locking on a location. The recommended thing to do is Turn On WiFi . Here's some interesting reading for you:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=81873
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20009223-265.html
http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/43553-google-maps-use-wifi-gps.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless
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Because it turns off the Network Assist and forces your phone to get a true GPS lock instead of just timing out. Network Assist is needed for when you can't get a location lock or to speed up the process. As far as Google Maps is concerned a rough location is better then no location when a narrow location GPS lock is taking a long time to acquire.
Ron Overdrive said:
Our GPS like many Android phones are not pure GPS units and are actually Assisted GPS (AGPS). Rough location is first acquired from the network tower's or WiFi address's geo-location while the GPS attempts to get a satellite lock for a more refined location lock. This network dependence is why you can almost always get a fast lock on your phone and not on dedicated GPS units.
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Very true, and I'd like to keep wifi assist off if possible but it seems that it just doesn't work that way. I think that might have been the problem I was experiencing was due to having wifi off.
VICODAN said:
Very true, and I'd like to keep wifi assist off if possible but it seems that it just doesn't work that way. I think that might have been the problem I was experiencing was due to having wifi off.
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The thing is I was able to get a GPS lock indoors in my house with 9/9 satellites. Don't remember if Wifi assist was on or off. But I'm trying it in the office right now with wifi assist on and can't get 1 satellite with wifi assist on.
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The thing is I was able to get a GPS lock indoors in my house with 9/9 satellites. Don't remember if Wifi assist was on or off. But I'm trying it in the office right now with wifi assist on and can't get 1 satellite with wifi assist on.
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Which should bring us back to the main point...usuing GPS drivers meant for another phone might not be the best idea ever
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Giving up on Google

6 devices and 6 returns
GPS, bad pixels, multitouch... They all came from different factories and they were all crap
I've had enough... Sticking with my OG Nexus and when ipad mini retina comes out, if it has GPS I am switching.
Anyone else with me? What will you be waiting for / going to in the meantime? ¢
I have the GPS issue which is likely software. Other than that my new n7 is perfect. I'll wait for the GPS fix and until then use my One for GPS.
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derekedw said:
I have the GPS issue which is likely software. Other than that my new n7 is perfect. I'll wait for the GPS fix and until then use my One for GPS.
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If GPS was a software issue, wouldn't everyone be suffering from it? Using GPS test, I am currently connected to 15/23 satellites, and it's got my current location accurate to 3 meters. I haven't had any GPS issues whatsoever, not that I use my tablet for GPS ever, but I tested it extensively after reading so many problems.
I never do this. IRL I'm a really nice guy, but for frack's sake, can we keep all these "Google/Asus/Android sucks" posts on one thread? That way all the whining can stay in one place. Maybe even make it a sticky (like people actually read those). I know I can avoid reading them, but there is a point when enough is enough. They are cluttering up the freaking forum.
I know you are frustrated and may have a legitimate complaint, but man....
P.S. Feel free to post on the other similar threads, and you may find helpful suggestions on what other users will be switching to. Unless the main reason for this thread was to have your name on the OP. Then I can't help you. That's an "i" generation problem.
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Semantics said:
If GPS was a software issue, wouldn't everyone be suffering from it? Using GPS test, I am currently connected to 15/23 satellites, and it's got my current location accurate to 3 meters. I haven't had any GPS issues whatsoever, not that I use my tablet for GPS ever, but I tested it extensively after reading so many problems.
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When I restart my 7 I get great GPS for a few minutes and then no SATs... Sounds like software to me... Google has acknowledged and I'll wait for a determination.... If it's a hardware fault, I feel for Asus because Google will force their hand.
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See ya
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Really? You might have OCD...
Not once in my life have I gotten a device that wasn't perfect....I think you ppl who come here and cry are liars. You prolly don't even own the device.
Nexus - n4 perfect.
Nexus - 7 2013 perfect.
No issues. Goggle can't take my money fast enough..
Semantics said:
If GPS was a software issue, wouldn't everyone be suffering from it? Using GPS test, I am currently connected to 15/23 satellites, and it's got my current location accurate to 3 meters. I haven't had any GPS issues whatsoever, not that I use my tablet for GPS ever, but I tested it extensively after reading so many problems.
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I don't think the issue is connecting but the connection sporadically dropping when connected for an extended period of time.
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bye!
Not sure how this is Google's fault when Asus made the device.
Enjoy your iCrap :what:
>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
Artood2s said:
I never do this. IRL I'm a really nice guy, but for frack's sake, can we keep all these "Google/Asus/Android sucks" posts on one thread? That way all the whining can stay in one place. Maybe even make it a sticky (like people actually read those). I know I can avoid reading them, but there is a point when enough is enough. They are cluttering up the freaking forum.
I know you are frustrated and may have a legitimate complaint, but man....
P.S. Feel free to post on the other similar threads, and you may find helpful suggestions on what other users will be switching to. Unless the main reason for this thread was to have your name on the OP. Then I can't help you. That's an "i" generation problem.
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If the device performed it's most basic functions adequately, the forum wouldn't be full of complaints.
tweaked said:
Really? You might have OCD...
Not once in my life have I gotten a device that wasn't perfect....I think you ppl who come here and cry are liars. You prolly don't even own the device.
Nexus - n4 perfect.
Nexus - 7 2013 perfect.
No issues. Goggle can't take my money fast enough..
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Liar? do you need to see the receipts? I have nothing to prove to you... I exchanged 6 devices from Staples, and Walmart and all had issues. Liars? I guess the loads of people posting threads here and google product forums, android central, those people are all liars too?
DowntownJeffBrown said:
Not sure how this is Google's fault when Asus made the device.
Enjoy your iCrap :what:
>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
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I don't like Apple either... I have been the number one fan of Google and Android... I have converted my family and friends not only to the Android platform, but to the whole Google "OS".
I think my problem is really more than just this Nexus 7 FHD... I have issues with Google as a whole.
first was destroying Google Reader
then destroying gmail with horrible UI
destroying talk app, replacing with dumbed down "hangouts"
destroying google maps, can't find alternate routes, dumbed down features again..
dismantle latitude to force us to use the horrible Google+ facebook knockoff platform when I have NO interest in social media
I really hate the direction the company is going. It seems I have no choice, no alternative though. iOS is just a device, not a platform... there is no compelling argument to invest myself into their whole mantra... Microsoft makes cool stuff but it is far from a platform.
I really just miss the old Google... and hate this new one. Google used to innovate, not copy others and deliberately dismantle things that work beautifully already.
Sorry if I seem like I'm just complaining to complain.... but I really am fed up and not sure how to move forwards in the absence of the old Google.
berardi said:
iOS is just a device, not a platform...
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Have to correct you - iOS *is* a platform. Android is also a platform, not a device.
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berardi said:
6 devices and 6 returns
GPS, bad pixels, multitouch... They all came from different factories and they were all crap
I've had enough... Sticking with my OG Nexus and when ipad mini retina comes out, if it has GPS I am switching.
Anyone else with me? What will you be waiting for / going to in the meantime? ¢
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Yep... I'm with you as well, I went through two of them.
Every ASUS device I have gotten has been complete S&%# (Transformer Prime, TF700, that "budget" windows 8 one).
I am boycotting ASUS and am waiting to see an HTC tab or the iPad Mini like you (I don't count Samsung, I HATE Touchwiz ) So... yeah.
Only GPS problems here..... Otherwise it perfect.....
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Well from what I've heard from a friend who works for Apple in the mall, there most likely not be a ipad mini with retina display.
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Android is becoming what Windows is now. Completely fragmented and the hardware is obsolete within 6-9 months. Full of exploitable holes. And hardware makers that charge a premium for mediocre devices. Cheap devices that are complete junk.
Unless Google reigns in the manufacturers more fragmentation will keep happening.
Like many of you I love my phone but hate all the crap that the cell companies pack in
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I just bought a previously opened Nexus 7 2013 from Staples and the thing is still perfect. I love this thing, it's the best $229 I've ever spent (price matched from Google Play). As to GPS problems, I'm getting a fix in GPS Status and Tools from my basement.
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Cool.
Get the **** outta here
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ogeretla said:
Only GPS problems here..... Otherwise it perfect.....
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Only? I don't understand how people are content to deal with widespread malfunctions.
"I bought a new car but the windows won't roll down, but it's OK, the AC works great!!"
bullriders said:
Android is becoming what Windows is now. Completely fragmented and the hardware is obsolete within 6-9 months. Full of exploitable holes. And hardware makers that charge a premium for mediocre devices. Cheap devices that are complete junk.
Unless Google reigns in the manufacturers more fragmentation will keep happening.
Like many of you I love my phone but hate all the crap that the cell companies pack in
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Yep... Google is making horrible decisions lately. I was the biggest Google and Android fanboy around. Google has broken every beautiful thing it has made in my opinion.
dillinjer said:
I just bought a previously opened Nexus 7 2013 from Staples and the thing is still perfect. I love this thing, it's the best $229 I've ever spent (price matched from Google Play). As to GPS problems, I'm getting a fix in GPS Status and Tools from my basement.
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All 8 (yeah, I bought 2 more today and they both were bad as well, looks like 1 was previously returned too) of the devices I bought worked great standing still. It's when you try to navigate anywhere they become bricks.
surfboy69 said:
Cool.
Get the **** outta here
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you are SOOO intelligent... keep munching that mercury filled corn syrup my friend..
If you return a device 3 times and you keep having the same issue, why would you keep getting the same device?
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