[Q] Windows 8 on Nexus 7 - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok so I've been able to install Windows 8 to a usb using a program called gimagex it can install windows using the wim file. So I'm wondering if it would be possible to do the same with the Nexus 7?

Search and read the thread where you should have posted this. There is a huge discussion about windows 8 . Its illegal
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Why god?
Why?
Why people want to defile android hardware running something that came from Fisher-Price?
No sane person runs that on desktop... surface is a fail also...
And everyone knows that this version (8) is a 'skipper'/avoid at all costs, a Vista if you want...
Course you can't run it! Cause Bill gates say's you can't!
He makes sure of it! (yes he still woks on w'os).
Code:
if (runing(androidHW))
{
blowBlueScreen(randomMessage);
}
You're a lost sheep from the times windows was the only available OS....

muldy said:
Why god?
Why?
Why people want to defile android hardware running something that came from Fisher-Price?
No sane people runs that on desktop... surface is a fail also...
And everyone knows that that version is a 'skipper', a Vista if you want...
Course you can't run it! Cause Bill gates say's you can't!
He makes sure of it! (yes he still woks on w'os).
You're a lost sheep from the times windows was the only available OS....
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Some people just like to do things because they can. It's that spirit that drives open source, ROM creation, etc. Just because is the only reason they need...like the guy trying to hack in a real facing camera on his N7.
Also, I installed Win8 on my Iconia W500 (full OS, not RT) and its not as horrible as all that...increased the speed by at least double that of Win7 too.
That said, I would try RT on my N7 just for grins, but Android would still be my primary baby.
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muldy said:
.....No sane person runs that on desktop... surface is a fail also...
And everyone knows that this version (8) is a 'skipper'/avoid at all costs, a Vista if you want...
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I run it on my Sony Vaio Laptop and it is perfectly fine (yes my Laptop ISN'T Touchscreen but so what?) .........

I personally would think it cool to be able to run to some extent Windows 8 on the Nexus even if it was just accessing a desktop using Splashtop. Mostly because it'd be cool to get that Windows 8 Tablet feel and check out what it'd be like to have a "Windows 8 tablet".
Now before someone goes all "Why would you want to ruin your android tablet it inferior OS?!?!?". I went with an android tablet because they give better customization, I mean hell if you look around, you can find at least one person probably who's tried and succeeded with running something like Ubuntu on it. So the point I'm trying to make is, personal preferences, everyone has them, just because yours varies from someone else's doesn't mean you should put down their ideas.
But the major point that's been hit already, illegal, and if you didn't mind that factor (like people who create hackintosh machines), it'd take a lot of work to get all the proper drivers so the OS would work properly on the device to begin with. Probably more hassle than it's worth.
OFF-TOPIC RANT: Have to disagree with the sentiment that Windows 8 is the new Vista, I use it on both my desktop and my laptop and find it to be not that far removed from Windows 7. There's plenty of improvements to things in Windows 8, but it doesn't feel like they've gone and completely rewrote the OS rather poorly from scratch (lke Vista felt with it's outrageous system requirements) but more like they took something that works (Windows 7) and took steps to improve it and add more features to it. Sure the "Metro" UI is a drastic change when compared to 12+ years of more or less the same UI style (Taskbar + Start Button), but from my experience it can hardly be called a ME, or a Vista.

GabrialDestruir said:
I personally would think it cool to be able to run to some extent Windows 8 on the Nexus even if it was just accessing a desktop using Splashtop. Mostly because it'd be cool to get that Windows 8 Tablet feel and check out what it'd be like to have a "Windows 8 tablet".
Now before someone goes all "Why would you want to ruin your android tablet it inferior OS?!?!?". I went with an android tablet because they give better customization, I mean hell if you look around, you can find at least one person probably who's tried and succeeded with running something like Ubuntu on it. So the point I'm trying to make is, personal preferences, everyone has them, just because yours varies from someone else's doesn't mean you should put down their ideas.
But the major point that's been hit already, illegal, and if you didn't mind that factor (like people who create hackintosh machines), it'd take a lot of work to get all the proper drivers so the OS would work properly on the device to begin with. Probably more hassle than it's worth.
OFF-TOPIC RANT: Have to disagree with the sentiment that Windows 8 is the new Vista, I use it on both my desktop and my laptop and find it to be not that far removed from Windows 7. There's plenty of improvements to things in Windows 8, but it doesn't feel like they've gone and completely rewrote the OS rather poorly from scratch (lke Vista felt with it's outrageous system requirements) but more like they took something that works (Windows 7) and took steps to improve it and add more features to it. Sure the "Metro" UI is a drastic change when compared to 12+ years of more or less the same UI style (Taskbar + Start Button), but from my experience it can hardly be called a ME, or a Vista.
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I would agree.. Windows 8 seems to be less taxing on the devices. I DO not like the Metro ui look thou... But its easy to hack and replace the shell.. As i done.. Search for classic shell. You get your start bar back for windows 8...
Im so glad they tosses aero out the window in windows 8 who needs round corners and 3d looking menu I always turned it off on win 7.
So windows 8 runs flawless on my amd vision APU. And im getting up to 11 hours of battery life over the 8-9 i was with win 7.. This Note book is awesome at sipping power when unpluged.. Plugged up its mind blowing fast for 1.6.
Anyway back on topic .. METRO Sucks if its like what i have on my full windows 8
And no no no Microsoft is not selling licenses for windows rt... Our new windows 8 pc has no coa key either..

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Windows 8 Build 81xx

I was wondering if any of the developers here have been following the Windows 8 stuff? I just read and article that they are going to release the first build of it this week at the big Microsoft thingy thats going on. They are releasing the build to developers, AND to the public!
Now, since Win 8 will be ARM supported, I'm wondering if were going to be able to put it on our A500's. I had originally wanted to buy a W500, but when your buying off craigslist you get what you find, and i love my A500 plenty fine, but i've always liked playing with the new Windows versions coming out, and the OS is pretty much designed for touch and tablet.
I know i'll be keeping my eyes open one way or another and hitting download as soon as i see they open a beta build up for us.
I don't think our A500's will be supported by MS, but since there aren't any quad-core tablets out there yet (production-wise, that I know of), MS will probably be using the tegra 2, which means it should be at least compatible.
So, it should hopefully run, but I think it's going to require a bit of hacking.
I really doubt that it will run on our a500's for one reason, hard drive space! Look up windows 8 demo on you tube and you will see that it is very similar to windows 7, just with a tablet friendly ui. You can still access good old windows with the touch of a button. I do have to admit that its looks pretty slick.
If you read into things, windows 8 is supposed to be -very- small operating wise, it's designed to gear towards tablet interfaces, it is able to run off of a flash drive.
I think our Acer Iconia will be one of the better suitors of Windows 8 thanks to its USB port. I would love to have Windows 8 ported on my Acer, especially if they are giving the build to the public.
kd75 said:
I really doubt that it will run on our a500's for one reason, hard drive space! Look up windows 8 demo on you tube and you will see that it is very similar to windows 7, just with a tablet friendly ui. You can still access good old windows with the touch of a button. I do have to admit that its looks pretty slick.
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Windows 7 only takes like 10GB fresh, with a good compression, or just a 32GB SD card for more space, it'd run just fine. Space isn't an issue.
They are, the BUILD conference is at 9am today, and they are supposed to release it to public and developers at it today.
I'll still love to see it runs on a quad core thing, with the ability to turn down part of the processor or dramatically turn down the clock when running on battery to save power.
I used this A500 long enough to realize that Android is just a toy. To be serious, it has a long way to go. It is so convenient to use for before nap browsing, that I don't turn on my laptop at night after all, but if you tell me I only have this for the week, I'll just say no. Better to bring both with me. Windows 7 is essential for me.
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I'll still love to see it runs on a quad core thing, with the ability to turn down part of the processor or dramatically turn down the clock when running on battery to save power.
I used this A500 long enough to realize that Android is just a toy. To be serious, it has a long way to go. It is so convenient to use for before nap browsing, that I don't turn on my laptop at night after all, but if you tell me I only have this for the week, I'll just say no. Better to bring both with me. Windows 7 is essential for me.
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From a day-to-day use stand point, this just isn't true. However, if you need a power house, then I agree with you. But getting this tablet was one of the reasons for getting rid of my netbook. Outside of heavy gaming, which I don't do anyways, I do not see anything I can do on the netbook that I couldn't do on the tablet for everyday functions (except print, but I almost never do that either lol)
I got rid of my laptop (Was going out anyway) And got the a500 instead of another laptop. So far im pleased, i wished Skype would get working, i'd use it a lot more. I have a pretty nice powerhouse for a desktop so for anything that i need to do with some real power, gaming and such, i can sit at it for without a problem.
Id love to get a microsoft arc keyboard or something, small enough to use on my iconia, cause right now, since i have a laptop stand still, i use a old apple keyboard via the USB, its easier for typing more after all.
I'd like to see windows 8 on it, simply to see what i could do with it, i like toying with it, my A500 is my toy, rather than a significant use item, i can do what i need on it, so it serves its purpose, but it was still more a toy then anything else when i got it.
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From a day-to-day use stand point, this just isn't true. However, if you need a power house, then I agree with you. But getting this tablet was one of the reasons for getting rid of my netbook. Outside of heavy gaming, which I don't do anyways, I do not see anything I can do on the netbook that I couldn't do on the tablet for everyday functions (except print, but I almost never do that either lol)
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The one thing missing for me is the ability to develop android applications on the iconia. It's funny that you need another OS to code for Android.
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Well unfortunately the builds thate came out were only on desktop uses, not for the ARM processor, guess was cross our fingers and wait.
Just like WP7 is limited to certain chipsets, I believe the ARM version might only be limited to Tegra 3 and some other faster processors.
I read somewhere from ms that win8 arm will run on many chips.as well as tegra. But not sure where this article went.I do know it was direct from Microsoft.
Here is the link to information
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516
Preview of Win 8 tablets. Acer's is running on an AMD chip, not a Tegra:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4811/windows-8-tablets-running-on-ti-qualcomm-nvidia-amd-intel-silicon
tkolev said:
The one thing missing for me is the ability to develop android applications on the iconia. It's funny that you need another OS to code for Android.
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Regardless of OS, if your day-to-day function is coding/dev work, I would imagine you wouldn't be doing it from a tablet anyways Thats like a mechanic trying to run a full garage with a 25 piece "mechanics" tool set from Walmart lol. I am a project manager and I couldn't imagine not having a full laptop to do what I need it to do. I do also have a PC at home, hooked to my TV. But if I was not running an IIS server or if I didn't do web design work, I would probably not have anything else at home but a tablet.
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Regardless of OS, if your day-to-day function is coding/dev work, I would imagine you wouldn't be doing it from a tablet anyways Thats like a mechanic trying to run a full garage with a 25 piece "mechanics" tool set from Walmart lol. I am a project manager and I couldn't imagine not having a full laptop to do what I need it to do. I do also have a PC at home, hooked to my TV. But if I was not running an IIS server or if I didn't do web design work, I would probably not have anything else at home but a tablet.
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Well that's the only thing I'm still doing on my laptop since I got the tablet. Would be nice if I had the chance of doing it with the tablet too and not bring both when going on trips.
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kjy2010 said:
Preview of Win 8 tablets. Acer's is running on an AMD chip, not a Tegra:
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That's not our tablet. That's the Acer Iconia Tab W500 not the A500. The A500 runs NVIDIA Tegra 2.
In any case, i'm still really hopeful for getting Win 8 onto the A500. With the ARM support, there has to be a way that this can be done eventually. I was actually starting to think that I might have to sell my Iconia and get a new tablet in March when its released. But now only time will tell. But just the possibility of running Windows here is awesome. =D
stefan2305 said:
That's not our tablet. That's the Acer Iconia Tab W500 not the A500. The A500 runs NVIDIA Tegra 2
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No schiznit really?!
Here I thought my tablet had an Atom processor in it!
Well here is a small update. It does not help us Iconia A500 people, but it does help people with other tablets! And puts out hope that if Microsoft delivers a preview for the ARM version of the OS we may be able to test it out some.
Here is the link to the article showing how to install the developer preview of Win 8 on a Win 7 running tablet.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-build-your-own-windows-8-tablet-using-existing-hardware/

My experince with windows 8 dev preview, and a quick question?

Hello xda, as ive seen all the buzz of windows 8, i thought id download the windows 8 dev preview and check out what the fuss is all about. so i downloaded the 64 bit version (i dont know if this has anything to do with it) but i launched it in VMware 8, installed it and got it running. now in VMware it was a bit sluggish due to my overclocked i5-760 at 4Ghz/Core, and my 4 gigs of ram, but was able to use it and see the visuals. it does look nice, i like the whole "tablet" menu to swipe between different applications and windows, but for a PC, i would not use it as it seems more for portability, that is if they don't release a more "desktop friendly" version. Which brings me to my next question, i have a dell XPS (m1330) its got a core 2 duo at 1.7Ghz and 4 gigs of ram, do you think that bad boy would handle windows 8?
I'm running windows 8 on viewpad 10 1-6ghz CPU and 2ghz memory runs fine so u should have no problems
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running it on a 6 year old pc...nuff said
I installed it as a dualboot on a dual core AMD with 4gb of ram and it runs like it should do smooth and everything is working.
I'm still exploring a bit but i must say metro interface is good for a tablet but not as regular pc. Now it would be nice to make a tab and phone communicate flawless with eachother but hetime wil tel.
At first a bit getting used to but now i can say :
Cant wait for final release.
Keep it up devsto make it run.
Should i install Windows 8?
I have Windows7 on my 6 Year old Pc..
Can i upgrade?
Cause i have Very Important things on my Pc , and no USB STick XD
wow, impressive, thanks guys installing it now!
007gamer said:
Should i install Windows 8?
I have Windows7 on my 6 Year old Pc..
Can i upgrade?
Cause i have Very Important things on my Pc , and no USB STick XD
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this is a dev preview, so i wouldnt use it as a main os just yet, id wait when beta or RC comes out.
007gamer said:
Should i install Windows 8?
I have Windows7 on my 6 Year old Pc..
Can i upgrade?
Cause i have Very Important things on my Pc , and no USB STick XD
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This is a developer preview. There is only one reasons why anybody might want to install it:
You are a developer and want to develop metro UI apps.
I know that there are also people who are interested in trying out the new UI and nobody can stop them from using it, but then most people (and developers as well) install it either on a second machine, a virtual machine or use another HDD.
The thing is that Windows 8 is still pre-Beta so it might cause problems or lead to data loss. You should not use this preview on your main machine and definitly not upgrade your main machine to it without securing the data.
That said, windows 8 uses less resources than Windows 7, so if your PC is really slow with Windows 7 Windows 8 MIGHT improve this a little bit, but better wait for Windows 8 to RTM.
Currently using it on my Asus Pc Slate & the experiences is good, though installed as a VHD to produce dual boot for window 7 & win 8 dev build.
I am using Windows XP Professional on my 2GB 1.66 GHZ machine..Whether I can go for Windows 8..??
I am a developer and I make Android as well as some web apps..I am really bothered whether upgrading to Windows 8 will affect eclipse or xampp..
joeyxl said:
core 2 duo at 1.7Ghz and 4 gigs of ram, do you think that bad boy would handle windows 8?
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It will work without problem.
I am running it on a VMware, and frankly, hate the Metro UI. Don`t find it appropriate for a desktop. I sure hope that in future builds there will be a userfriendly option to completley deactivate it.
it looks cool, but not for laptops or pc's
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joeyxl said:
it looks cool, but not for laptops or pc's
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Well, its just matter of get use to it...
Windows 8 has the same system requirements as Windows 7 (actually lower). Microsoft did a great job optimizing the core of the OS.
As far as using it as your Desktop OS, well. the Desktop is still there, the big difference is in the way you launch your desktop applications. with Windows 7, you typically use the Start Menu or pinned items on your taskbar. In Windows 8, you either use the Start Screen, pinned items, or you can use search--click on the Start button and begin typing. it's that easy.
domineus said:
running it on a 6 year old pc...nuff said
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Don't lie! You got this on Gizmodo, huh?
I'm actually surprised by how well metro ui worked for me. I was skeptical about the whole tiles on laptop/desktop thing, but after a few minutes of fiddling around, I was able to use it quite efficiently without too much issue during work. Am quite satisfied with it, again, to my surprise.
I don´t know why the people think that´s not good for Pc. In my opinión the interface is better for Tablet and for PC too. It´s only matter of habit.
Why is better look for a progam in a List? I prefer see the shorcut on the desktop with a good look (Windows 8) and no like old shorcuts on old desktop (Windows 7).
Of course the widget are better, and the desktop look great. This is only a pre beta version and is neccesary improve.
Good luck
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Don't lie! You got this on Gizmodo, huh?
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dell ispiron 1405
that's 6 years old and windows 8 runs excellent on it
Running on my Acer Aspire 4736G, dual-booted... 10 seconds boot is so nifty but ****... Microsoft trying to cheat us by hibernating the com instead shutting down?
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Would you run Windows 8 on your Xoom?

Lets just say for fun that Moto released Windows 8 for our Xoom, and that it worked as well as Android. Would you switch to it? Lets not start the license issue say you could buy a copy. Would you dual boot? Just wondering how many would give it a run, I think I would.
Yes in a heartbeat. Always wanted to try windows tablet and able to use full blown microsoft office products.
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Yes in a heartbeat. Always wanted to try windows tablet and able to use full blown microsoft office products.
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I wonder if you would need a special version of office (ARM) or if office 2007 would work? That would be very cool if it did.
zone23 said:
I wonder if you would need a special version of office (ARM) or if office 2007 would work? That would be very cool if it did.
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They have already shown office running on arm, but it was a recompiled version.
All software will need a new arm version.
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No but i'd like to have the office programs to android
wouldn't run windows on any hardware I own lol
i would do it in a heart beat! im a verizon customer and love android. but if verizon had a better windows phone i would be all over it. i have an xbox and several winows laptops in my house so i think i would love the intergration. i admit, i dont even know if it would intergrate that well, im just speculating..
Absolutely not. My office just got the Samsung Slate Windows 7 tablet and we installed Win8 beta. The slate has 4gb RAM/64GB storage and an Intel icore5 at 1.66ghz. At almost $1,200, its very expensive for what it is. Heavy and has a gigantic fan in it.....
The entire concept of Windows in a tablet/slate does not work. Metro navigation is horrible and breaks almost every existing standard for Windows navigation.
To use Win8 Metro without a touch screen, is an excuse for carpal tunnel where every single task now takes twice as many clicks. ESC no longer works as the universal get me back one level.
Overall, my impression of Win8 Metro is very poor. The device we have has an icore5 in it and it is not snappy. Its smooth but not fast. Navigation is horrible and confusing.
IMHO, Microsoft better fire the UX team on Metro because all they've done is manage to muck up the entire concept of touch and Windows into a completely unusable package.
Android ICS navigation, HC and even Gingerbread are light years ahead in terms of efficient touch navigation implementation. MSFT needs to learn that in mobile, do not marry the desktop metaphor into it. It will not work. iOS and its unhappy marriage in Mac Lion is a perfect example of a big failure. Even Apple made that mistake and couldn't fix it.
Well there is an instruction of how to install Win XP in our Xoom.
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X86 programs aren't going to run on the arm version of win8 so a lot of the programs that I would be looking forward to won't be compatible out the gate.
Things android lacks that windows has? Java, resizeable &stackable window ui, full fledged browsers with extensions.
Can't compare win8 to ics, maybe to cupcake. Give win on arm a few years and it should improve. That said, i am now 100% commited to android and i believe it is the future of os'es.
That would be the only way I would keep the XOOM. Android is just a toy to me.
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Absolutely not. My office just got the Samsung Slate Windows 7 tablet and we installed Win8 beta. The slate has 4gb RAM/64GB storage and an Intel icore5 at 1.66ghz. At almost $1,200, its very expensive for what it is. Heavy and has a gigantic fan in it.....
The entire concept of Windows in a tablet/slate does not work. Metro navigation is horrible and breaks almost every existing standard for Windows navigation.
To use Win8 Metro without a touch screen, is an excuse for carpal tunnel where every single task now takes twice as many clicks. ESC no longer works as the universal get me back one level.
Overall, my impression of Win8 Metro is very poor. The device we have has an icore5 in it and it is not snappy. Its smooth but not fast. Navigation is horrible and confusing.
IMHO, Microsoft better fire the UX team on Metro because all they've done is manage to muck up the entire concept of touch and Windows into a completely unusable package.
Android ICS navigation, HC and even Gingerbread are light years ahead in terms of efficient touch navigation implementation. MSFT needs to learn that in mobile, do not marry the desktop metaphor into it. It will not work. iOS and its unhappy marriage in Mac Lion is a perfect example of a big failure. Even Apple made that mistake and couldn't fix it.
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Couldn't disagree more... if what I'm running on my Wp7 is even half as well implemented on a tablet then I'm on it. Metro is the first decent differentiation away from 'icon' based interfaces and if I'm not mistaken the Android market has just been updated to a Metro like home screen.
I've played with the Win8 beta too but wouldn't judge MSFT on it when they clearly are capable of a top-notch Metro based OS as per WP7.
But opinions are like assholes, we all got one ;-)
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Hmmm... I'd think about it...
I always was a MS user, probably always will be. I see the opinions on both sides, and understand both of them... I guess my thoughts lean toward "let me dual-boot and try it, and see if it works for me..."
I would like to give it a test run.
~ BereanPK
Well I don't know all that much about Metros cept what I have read and from what I understand you can get rid of the Metro interface and go back to the standard if you choose to.
Metro is really not much more than Windows Media Center type interface that runs over the standard desktop and you can dump out of it if you want to get more of a legacy type screen.
That said I would definitly try it on my Xoom if I could Dual Boot from an SD Card but I would be hesitant to flash it directly as my daily driver. It could be useful for some presentation I do and some Classes I teach but as an everyday operating system for my Pad I really don't see the need until I know it allows me to do something I can't do with ICS.
And I have yet to hear of anything along those lines!
And from what I hear about draconian copy protection I may just pass on Win8 for my desktop as well!
I change my hardware a LOT and they seem to think I am not allowed to do that when I run their OS!
And they wonder why people PIRATE it in the first place?
You can't run OneNote with ICS.
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I would dual boot, because I love metro UI (the launcher I use the most on my phone is Launcher 7) and I am very curious about Win8.
I have Windows 7 on my notebook and it's great, the first os by MS which is very good and has no problems. Not a single crash in months of use!
Only one thing puts me in doubt:
-Windows 98: good
-Windows 2000: not good
-Windows XP: good
-Windows Vista: awful
-Windows 7: very good
-Windows 7: ???
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I would dual boot, because I love metro UI (the launcher I use the most on my phone is Launcher 7) and I am very curious about Win8.
I have Windows 7 on my notebook and it's great, the first os by MS which is very good and has no problems. Not a single crash in months of use!
Only one thing puts me in doubt:
-Windows 98: good
-Windows 2000: not good
-Windows XP: good
-Windows Vista: awful
-Windows 7: very good
-Windows 7: ???
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You whippersnappers with no sense of perspective.
Windows: bad
Windows 2: eh
Windows 3: not too bad
Windows 3.1: better
Windows 3.11 for Workgroups: now you're cooking with gas
Windows NT: blah
Windows NT 4.0: much better
Windows 95: pretty good
Windows 98: good but I wish it had some of the NT 4.0 stuff.
Windows 2000: not the best for games but at least it has the NT stuff.
Windows XP: nice but 64 bit was kind of a joke
Windows Vista: fine if you know how to read but a bit of a hog.
Windows 7: this is a nicer cleaned up Vista with a watered down interface for those who want a spoon fed experience
Windows 8: probably something even simpler with a robust OS under the hood (I hope or it will suck worse than Windows ME that I refuse to include in my list because it SUCKED.)
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windows me was an operating system? lol
no i wouldn't install windows 8 on my xoom... I'll keep ics. it's smooth and pretty stable.
I would have no desire to run WIN8 on my tablet. I can see the possible argument for encouraged development though...
windows CE + windows ME + windows NT = CEMENT

[Q] fast startup (A.K.A. hybrid boot) on Windows 7

Hi everibody
I' m not the only one who thinks that Windows 8 isn't suitable for desktop users, so Windows 7 will probably survive for years.
On the other hand I can't deny that W8 offers some very useful advantages. In my opinion the best one is the fast startup: with this feature the PC is able to boot in less than 20 seconds. I was wondering if it's possible to port the hybrid boot on Windows 7.
I think it could be possible because Windows 8 is officially numbered as the relase #6.2, and Windows 7 is the #6.1, so I think they have a lot in common..
So sorry if I am propbably posting it in the wrong session but I don't know where the right place is..
what do you mean fast boot? my computer boots in roughly one minute, not 20 seconds. as for everything else I have no idea haha
gigsaw said:
Hi everibody
I' m not the only one who thinks that Windows 8 isn't suitable for desktop users, so Windows 7 will probably survive for years.
On the other hand I can't deny that W8 offers some very useful advantages. In my opinion the best one is the fast startup: with this feature the PC is able to boot in less than 20 seconds. I was wondering if it's possible to port the hybrid boot on Windows 7.
I think it could be possible because Windows 8 is officially numbered as the relase #6.2, and Windows 7 is the #6.1, so I think they have a lot in common..
So sorry if I am propbably posting it in the wrong session but I don't know where the right place is..
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of course only being 0.1 version number of a difference MUST mean its almost identical
Unfortunately back in the real world there is a huge difference in the OSs, its not just a case of a reg edit here and there or moving a few files around, the OS has had sections changed to improve boot times and more importantly its has had extra code added to take advantage of newer hardware functions esp around the BIOS.
ive been using it as a desktop for quite some time now and its productivity once you get the hang of it is a significant improvement over Win 7, a more sensible approach to your problem is getting over yourself, ignoring the mountain of FUD on it and learning how to use it, I think if you went in to it with an open mind and put the effort in to learning what its all about rather than complaining about it, it would place you in a more fortunate position of being better off all round, without trying to reinvent the wheel
anyhow, if you choose to attempt the "port" yourself then I wish you good luck.
gigsaw said:
Hi everibody
I' m not the only one who thinks that Windows 8 isn't suitable for desktop users, so Windows 7 will probably survive for years.
On the other hand I can't deny that W8 offers some very useful advantages. In my opinion the best one is the fast startup: with this feature the PC is able to boot in less than 20 seconds. I was wondering if it's possible to port the hybrid boot on Windows 7.
I think it could be possible because Windows 8 is officially numbered as the relase #6.2, and Windows 7 is the #6.1, so I think they have a lot in common..
So sorry if I am propbably posting it in the wrong session but I don't know where the right place is..
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If you use the machine every day, why don't you just put it in sleep mode? The start-up is almost instantaneous, especially if you have a SSD instead of HDD. My convertible gets restarted or shut down once every 2 weeks, if that, and I've been doing it for almost 3 years now since I first got W7.
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If you use the machine every day, why don't you just put it in sleep mode? The start-up is almost instantaneous, especially if you have a SSD instead of HDD. My convertible gets restarted or shut down once every 2 weeks, if that, and I've been doing it for almost 3 years now since I first got W7.
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agreed, I used to sleep on my win 7, and still do now it's 8, even on a HDD, its still almost instant load times, my reboot counter hit nearly 3.5 months without reboot so it has minimal impact
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dazza9075 said:
of course only being 0.1 version number of a difference MUST mean its almost identical
Unfortunately back in the real world there is a huge difference in the OSs, its not just a case of a reg edit here and there or moving a few files around, the OS has had sections changed to improve boot times and more importantly its has had extra code added to take advantage of newer hardware functions esp around the BIOS.
ive been using it as a desktop for quite some time now and its productivity once you get the hang of it is a significant improvement over Win 7, a more sensible approach to your problem is getting over yourself, ignoring the mountain of FUD on it and learning how to use it, I think if you went in to it with an open mind and put the effort in to learning what its all about rather than complaining about it, it would place you in a more fortunate position of being better off all round, without trying to reinvent the wheel
anyhow, if you choose to attempt the "port" yourself then I wish you good luck.
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+1
Windows 8 is not hard to use at all, even on a desktop. Instead of complaining, crying and moaning over small things, people should try to learn.
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Mostly I hate the fact that there is no aero....
Aero is a number of things, the core of which is the desktop compositor, which is very much present in Win8 (in fact, unlike Win7 and Vista, you can't turn desktop composition *off* in normal operation). Similarly, several other "Aero" features such as "Aero Snap" and "Aero Peek" are still present as well. What I presume you mean is that there's no window border transparency (you may note that the taskbar is still transparent...). There are a few hacks that try to add that back in, with varying degrees of success. Personally, while I agree with you that it's annoying to lose this option, it's really not that big a deal to me. The ability to see a blurry version of the window behind my foreground one was useful on rare occasion, but more often it was simply eye candy (which is admittedly a nice thing to have).
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but more often it was simply eye candy (which is admittedly a nice thing to have).
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mhmmm eye candy.......
But more seriously. Whether it looks good or not is user preference. I quite like the appearance of windows 8, but if I was one of the design team I probably wouldnt have bothered changing it (nor opposed it).
Same ****, different transparency. Whoop-de-f***ing-do. Can be hacked back into existence but I really cannot be bothered.
Yes sleep is the way to go. Another option would be to downgrade to Win 7 Starter - my netbook boots very fast with that.

Windows 8 running on Samsung Galaxy Tab tablet and Android! (Remote Desktop)

It's possible to run Windows 8 on Android with all multitouch and other tablet features! Check this video. Cool?
I think it's a great way to play with Windows 8, without throwing money on a new expensive tablet. And even better it's possible to use additional Android features like Android voice text input on Windows.
Windows 8 running on Samsung Galaxy Tab tablet and Android!
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Not even close. This is just spam.
@decatf u no understand cloud computing?
Does user really cares how and where it runs? No, the most important part is that it allows to use Win 8 on the tablet. Even more, use it with all the multitouch and tablet stuff like a normal Microsoft Surface, but with the PC power.
This is not Windows 8 running on the Samsung Galaxy Tab. This is nothing more than a remote desktop.
Technically you are correct, Windows is running on the server and tablet is just a client.
Though by "running" I mean one way of using Windows 8 on an Android tablet. And it might even be one of the best ways of using Win 8 on a tablet, because of a performance, battery efficiency, extra features and how easy is to set everything up. Yes, it has some trade-offs, it requires a fast connectivity and UI fluidity depends on connection.. but still it's a valid way of using Windows on a tablet. Even more advanced way, because all the latest and greatest technology moves to remote computing so called cloud.
I wouldn't underestimate it because of that it doesn't technically run a tablet itself.. who really cares?
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I wouldn't underestimate it because of that it doesn't technically run a tablet itself.. who really cares?
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The ones who have been looking to run arm Win8 natively on the tablet. You should rename the title of your thread to something more appropriate like running Win8 with remote desktop or in a "cloud" though technically its not a cloud.
Interesting read.
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Why does it matters?
It's slow, first of all... You can clearly see the lag in windows animation, and don't even try to watch an animation with remote desktop, it's unbearable!
And, you NEED another computer/server to work it... So, this mean getting at least the hardware required, plus the licenses. Which would mean spending more than a Windows 8 tablet that would run smoother and natively.
Remote use is useful in small bites
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Technically you are correct, Windows is running on the server and tablet is just a client.
Though by "running" I mean one way of using Windows 8 on an Android tablet. And it might even be one of the best ways of using Win 8 on a tablet, because of a performance, battery efficiency, extra features and how easy is to set everything up. Yes, it has some trade-offs, it requires a fast connectivity and UI fluidity depends on connection.. but still it's a valid way of using Windows on a tablet. Even more advanced way, because all the latest and greatest technology moves to remote computing so called cloud.
I wouldn't underestimate it because of that it doesn't technically run a tablet itself.. who really cares?[/QUOTE
I use my Tab to run Windows XP when I am away from my office for a few hours. Using a blue tooth keyboard makes it pretty usable but having used Win8 I can definitely see where it would be easier with a touch screen. But it's not like being in front of the local OS. I also don't find Win8 very much fun without a touch screen anyway. I doubt anyone will get it to work natively on a Tab. So you are both right. It's not like being there but it's useful in small bites.
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Another thing that even $500 Microsoft Surface doesn't run any of standard Windows apps (only crap apps for Metro). And a full featured Surface Pro is super thick, heavy and even more insanely expensive $1000.
So it turns out that Windows 8 through remote desktop is one the best options for those, who want full featured Win 8 on a tablet.
Splashtop 2 updated its gestures to match Win 8. Pretty awesome since animations are almost seamless compared to remote desktop.
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Another thing that even $500 Microsoft Surface doesn't run any of standard Windows apps (only crap apps for Metro). And a full featured Surface Pro is super thick, heavy and even more insanely expensive $1000.
So it turns out that Windows 8 through remote desktop is one the best options for those, who want full featured Win 8 on a tablet.
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Or you could buy a x86/x64 tablet and run it natively, for less...
Not even possible.. windows 8 is not an open source..
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You do realise most x86/x64 tablet would come with Windows 8 already installed?
The main conscern exists: You have to pay for either a computer or a "server", for the nescessary license and you still won't be able to play videos or have a "lag free" experience like if you'd get a Win8 (with an intel atom or a core i3) and run every thing natively
Cool
I had done the same thing a few days ago and thought it was pretty cool , here how it works on my galaxy tab , I also have a video with it on my nexus 7 but that was before I worked out a few of the lag bugs.
I've also tested it off my local network and it has about the same performance since the bandwidth used by spashtop peaks around 250kbps this is ideal for goofing off with and having the feel of windows 8 on an android tablet. and I was able to verify that the multi touch works with 10 points ( not sure about any more only have ten fingers )
http://youtu.be/zYVPq_zUBWE
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I ment to mention ...
ShawnsCompRepair said:
I had done the same thing a few days ago and thought it was pretty cool , here how it works on my galaxy tab , I also have a video with it on my nexus 7 but that was before I worked out a few of the lag bugs.
I've also tested it off my local network and it has about the same performance since the bandwidth used by spashtop peaks around 250kbps this is ideal for goofing off with and having the feel of windows 8 on an android tablet. and I was able to verify that the multi touch works with 10 points ( not sure about any more only have ten fingers )
http://youtu.be/zYVPq_zUBWE
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Its pretty lag free , for the most part . but when I first installed it, it was very sluggish. after adjusting the the cpu speeds on my tablet it started running smoother, just crank your minimum tablet cpu speed up to about 500mhz and it gets rid of most the lag, then on the virtual machine give it as much ram as you can , in this video I gave the virtual machine 4 cores and 2gb of ram , but I'm now running it with 6gb of ram its about as smooth as butter.
I'm an IT professional and was on site today at an office I work with that has an IT guy that works full time there and I was " Showing him my new windows 8 tablet " and he used it for about ten minutes before saying wait a minute I though this was supposed to have a kick stand in the back, then I came clean with him and he thought it was running natively , Fun fun ....
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