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[Q] Windows 8 on existing tablets.

Does anybody know of a list or site that lists existing tablets that have had Windows 8 running on them.
Or if you have a Windows tablet now and have tried the dev preview what has been your experience?
I ask because I'm hoping to invest in a decent Windows base tablet for purposes of upgrading to Windows 8 instead of buying a "certified" overpriced tablet. Hopefully we will see manufacturers releasing better drivers for existing devices if they are needed aswell.

wetab
i have installed win 8 on My wetab and It runs pretty well. It has Somme hickups Bud i think thats more to win8 not being completely ready For release.

I have the Lenovo S10-3t Netbook with the monitor that swings around and turns it into a tablet... It runs awesome on this thing.

If you want a good slate you should look into the Samsung Series 7 slate. It has been reviewed as one of the best windows slates. Unfortunately for pricing it is not that great it starts at $1099 and goes to $1399.

I ordered a Dell st2220t touch screen display a while back in anticipation of a beta (I know this isn't a beta but close enough). Hooked it up to a cheap dual core ATOM/ION2 nettop and it runs really great. Wished there were more apps to test out and really live in the touch environment but it works very well. It kind of sucks not to have flash in the metro browser but I won't be surprised if Chrome 100.0 (or whatever version Google has out by release) gets turned into a alternative touch metro browser with Flash support baked in.
Altogether I think it was a pretty cheap experiment and well worth it: $230 for the monitor which was a steal BTW (1080p, touch AND freaking IPS) plus $220 for the nettop.

Ever think the Galaxy 10.1 will accommodate it? I would rather W8 than HC at the moment

I have a HP Touchsmart tm2t tablet and win8 runs extremely well on it, the capacitive multitouch screen works like it should with win8 and I've really been enjoying it so far. I put in a different HDD so i can switch between win8 and win7 just to play/test win8 when i want to.

corey457 said:
If you want a good slate you should look into the Samsung Series 7 slate. It has been reviewed as one of the best windows slates. Unfortunately for pricing it is not that great it starts at $1099 and goes to $1399.
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still far far far cheaper than a dell xt3, hp 2760p, Lenovo x220t for the power provided by the convertible
The difference between the current crop of slates and Microsoft slates/convertibles is that they're not toys. In that the tablet/convertible can stand in as a computer or a main PC
So what is being sought as a price isn't all that bad
That said I've tried on a hp 2740p, dell xt2, hp tm2, and Lenovo x220t. The installation is flawless and really extends the life of the dell xt2 and hp tm2, which are extremely old in comparison to the others I mentioned.
I was thinking that after playing with Windows 8 for so long on a convertible its hard to go to an ipad2, android tablet, hp touchpad because the experience and speed is just incredible. Even on the hp tm2, which is somewhere along 4 years old and it works extremely fast.

It works just fine on Iconia W500.

How did you get it on?? To the iconia
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How did you get it on?? To the iconia
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Iconia W500 is a slate running windows 7, just load it off an SD card and install... Did you think he loaded it on a Iconia A500, the A is for android so windows 8 current build wouldn't run on it...
W500 is available for a great price though, really thinking about it...

I have a Dell Inspiron Duo, and the dev preview runs really well. The performance is definitely smoother and faster than win7 on this device, which is very impressive!
The only issues I have so far are that windows 8 doesn't detect the accelerometer and compass in my device, let alone provide drivers. Although, this is a very early release to get developers used to the metro UI so its not really a problem as they'll probably be in the full release.
Secondly is that Microsoft office brings up compatibility errors and won't install (making do with the very capable open office suite) this will obviously be fixed though.
The one other niggle being with hardware not software. I wish Dell had put some volume hardware keys and a physical start button on the sides of the screen rather than having to open up to the keyboard each time I want to use them. (So this is really just my personal preference)
That being said, you can just swipe in from the right of the screen to bring up a start button and volume/ brightness settings among others.
So as far as upgrading win7 hardware, at the moment I would say nothing would really be stopping you. I would wait to see how windows 8 matures up to release before making a decision however.

dalethefarmer said:
Iconia W500 is a slate running windows 7, just load it off an SD card and install... Did you think he loaded it on a Iconia A500, the A is for android so windows 8 current build wouldn't run on it...
W500 is available for a great price though, really thinking about it...
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Sorry yes, i just saw iconia and hit reply would love the galaxy 10.1 to run it, looks good

I have an ASUS Ep-121 with Windows 8 loaded on it. It runs flawlessly. Better than it did with Windows 7 anyway.

I have been running WDP8 on my HP Slate with eveything working fine.
All the drivers installed fine as well.
Have had a couple of BSODs in two days, mostly when waking from sleep.
The automatic orientation rotation is super fast at least ten times faster and smoother than Win 7 !!
Overall a very good experience......
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Yep, Win8 on a Slate runs so far better than Win7 it's like the Tablet goes to warp speed! (W500) If fact I had a little trouble initially using win8 after installation because I was dragging my fingers sooo hard on the screen in order to enable a touch command, which didn't work! Turns out the touch is sooo sensitive you just need to brush your finger across the screen in order to access the Charms, Tabs, and switches!
Buttery smooth!

Posting from a W500 on Windows 8 right now, Windows 8 is absolutely made for it. That said, the metro browser is the only useful metro app and it's completely unstable.... but very snappy when it works. Since this is such an early version I have high hopes.
Side note: has anyone gotten the accelerometer working in 64-bit? Acer doesn't provide drivers and the manufacturer (Bosch) doesn't seem to either.

Had some issues with Accelerometer myself, although it was on the 32bit version.
You can try these options, however if it doesnt't work then you'll need to revert/re-install the 32bit version.
First, see if the bosch drivers install for 64bit, if they do then you can procede if they don' t then you won't have a functional G-sensor for 64bit.
Secondly, if the above works, you need to install the Acer ATI graphics driver (d/l from acer site, also the Application HID driver & Device Control won't hurt either)
After installation (and restart, yay!) Open the AMD Vision Engine Control Center program from the program list, it will tell you there is a compatibility conflict and do you wish to revert to .Net 3.5.1 (or whatever), Select yes. It will then download this driver from the net, and after installation: Voila!
(Of course you could just go into Windows Resources and revert to the aformentioned drivers, but the above was just to make sure )
Hope that works for you!

THis might help:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393329,00.asp
I ordered one of those even before this report came out. I will try it out and let you know how it goes!

Runs on Panasonic H1\H2

Would you run Windows 8 on your Xoom?

Lets just say for fun that Moto released Windows 8 for our Xoom, and that it worked as well as Android. Would you switch to it? Lets not start the license issue say you could buy a copy. Would you dual boot? Just wondering how many would give it a run, I think I would.

Yes in a heartbeat. Always wanted to try windows tablet and able to use full blown microsoft office products.

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Yes in a heartbeat. Always wanted to try windows tablet and able to use full blown microsoft office products.
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I wonder if you would need a special version of office (ARM) or if office 2007 would work? That would be very cool if it did.

zone23 said:
I wonder if you would need a special version of office (ARM) or if office 2007 would work? That would be very cool if it did.
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They have already shown office running on arm, but it was a recompiled version.
All software will need a new arm version.
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No but i'd like to have the office programs to android

wouldn't run windows on any hardware I own lol

i would do it in a heart beat! im a verizon customer and love android. but if verizon had a better windows phone i would be all over it. i have an xbox and several winows laptops in my house so i think i would love the intergration. i admit, i dont even know if it would intergrate that well, im just speculating..

Absolutely not. My office just got the Samsung Slate Windows 7 tablet and we installed Win8 beta. The slate has 4gb RAM/64GB storage and an Intel icore5 at 1.66ghz. At almost $1,200, its very expensive for what it is. Heavy and has a gigantic fan in it.....
The entire concept of Windows in a tablet/slate does not work. Metro navigation is horrible and breaks almost every existing standard for Windows navigation.
To use Win8 Metro without a touch screen, is an excuse for carpal tunnel where every single task now takes twice as many clicks. ESC no longer works as the universal get me back one level.
Overall, my impression of Win8 Metro is very poor. The device we have has an icore5 in it and it is not snappy. Its smooth but not fast. Navigation is horrible and confusing.
IMHO, Microsoft better fire the UX team on Metro because all they've done is manage to muck up the entire concept of touch and Windows into a completely unusable package.
Android ICS navigation, HC and even Gingerbread are light years ahead in terms of efficient touch navigation implementation. MSFT needs to learn that in mobile, do not marry the desktop metaphor into it. It will not work. iOS and its unhappy marriage in Mac Lion is a perfect example of a big failure. Even Apple made that mistake and couldn't fix it.

Well there is an instruction of how to install Win XP in our Xoom.
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X86 programs aren't going to run on the arm version of win8 so a lot of the programs that I would be looking forward to won't be compatible out the gate.
Things android lacks that windows has? Java, resizeable &stackable window ui, full fledged browsers with extensions.
Can't compare win8 to ics, maybe to cupcake. Give win on arm a few years and it should improve. That said, i am now 100% commited to android and i believe it is the future of os'es.

That would be the only way I would keep the XOOM. Android is just a toy to me.
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al mon said:
Absolutely not. My office just got the Samsung Slate Windows 7 tablet and we installed Win8 beta. The slate has 4gb RAM/64GB storage and an Intel icore5 at 1.66ghz. At almost $1,200, its very expensive for what it is. Heavy and has a gigantic fan in it.....
The entire concept of Windows in a tablet/slate does not work. Metro navigation is horrible and breaks almost every existing standard for Windows navigation.
To use Win8 Metro without a touch screen, is an excuse for carpal tunnel where every single task now takes twice as many clicks. ESC no longer works as the universal get me back one level.
Overall, my impression of Win8 Metro is very poor. The device we have has an icore5 in it and it is not snappy. Its smooth but not fast. Navigation is horrible and confusing.
IMHO, Microsoft better fire the UX team on Metro because all they've done is manage to muck up the entire concept of touch and Windows into a completely unusable package.
Android ICS navigation, HC and even Gingerbread are light years ahead in terms of efficient touch navigation implementation. MSFT needs to learn that in mobile, do not marry the desktop metaphor into it. It will not work. iOS and its unhappy marriage in Mac Lion is a perfect example of a big failure. Even Apple made that mistake and couldn't fix it.
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Couldn't disagree more... if what I'm running on my Wp7 is even half as well implemented on a tablet then I'm on it. Metro is the first decent differentiation away from 'icon' based interfaces and if I'm not mistaken the Android market has just been updated to a Metro like home screen.
I've played with the Win8 beta too but wouldn't judge MSFT on it when they clearly are capable of a top-notch Metro based OS as per WP7.
But opinions are like assholes, we all got one ;-)
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Hmmm... I'd think about it...
I always was a MS user, probably always will be. I see the opinions on both sides, and understand both of them... I guess my thoughts lean toward "let me dual-boot and try it, and see if it works for me..."
I would like to give it a test run.
~ BereanPK

Well I don't know all that much about Metros cept what I have read and from what I understand you can get rid of the Metro interface and go back to the standard if you choose to.
Metro is really not much more than Windows Media Center type interface that runs over the standard desktop and you can dump out of it if you want to get more of a legacy type screen.
That said I would definitly try it on my Xoom if I could Dual Boot from an SD Card but I would be hesitant to flash it directly as my daily driver. It could be useful for some presentation I do and some Classes I teach but as an everyday operating system for my Pad I really don't see the need until I know it allows me to do something I can't do with ICS.
And I have yet to hear of anything along those lines!
And from what I hear about draconian copy protection I may just pass on Win8 for my desktop as well!
I change my hardware a LOT and they seem to think I am not allowed to do that when I run their OS!
And they wonder why people PIRATE it in the first place?

You can't run OneNote with ICS.
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I would dual boot, because I love metro UI (the launcher I use the most on my phone is Launcher 7) and I am very curious about Win8.
I have Windows 7 on my notebook and it's great, the first os by MS which is very good and has no problems. Not a single crash in months of use!
Only one thing puts me in doubt:
-Windows 98: good
-Windows 2000: not good
-Windows XP: good
-Windows Vista: awful
-Windows 7: very good
-Windows 7: ???

Ghost-of-the-Sun said:
I would dual boot, because I love metro UI (the launcher I use the most on my phone is Launcher 7) and I am very curious about Win8.
I have Windows 7 on my notebook and it's great, the first os by MS which is very good and has no problems. Not a single crash in months of use!
Only one thing puts me in doubt:
-Windows 98: good
-Windows 2000: not good
-Windows XP: good
-Windows Vista: awful
-Windows 7: very good
-Windows 7: ???
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You whippersnappers with no sense of perspective.
Windows: bad
Windows 2: eh
Windows 3: not too bad
Windows 3.1: better
Windows 3.11 for Workgroups: now you're cooking with gas
Windows NT: blah
Windows NT 4.0: much better
Windows 95: pretty good
Windows 98: good but I wish it had some of the NT 4.0 stuff.
Windows 2000: not the best for games but at least it has the NT stuff.
Windows XP: nice but 64 bit was kind of a joke
Windows Vista: fine if you know how to read but a bit of a hog.
Windows 7: this is a nicer cleaned up Vista with a watered down interface for those who want a spoon fed experience
Windows 8: probably something even simpler with a robust OS under the hood (I hope or it will suck worse than Windows ME that I refuse to include in my list because it SUCKED.)
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windows me was an operating system? lol
no i wouldn't install windows 8 on my xoom... I'll keep ics. it's smooth and pretty stable.

I would have no desire to run WIN8 on my tablet. I can see the possible argument for encouraged development though...

windows CE + windows ME + windows NT = CEMENT

Windows 8 running on Samsung Galaxy Tab tablet and Android! (Remote Desktop)

It's possible to run Windows 8 on Android with all multitouch and other tablet features! Check this video. Cool?
I think it's a great way to play with Windows 8, without throwing money on a new expensive tablet. And even better it's possible to use additional Android features like Android voice text input on Windows.

Windows 8 running on Samsung Galaxy Tab tablet and Android!
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Not even close. This is just spam.

@decatf u no understand cloud computing?
Does user really cares how and where it runs? No, the most important part is that it allows to use Win 8 on the tablet. Even more, use it with all the multitouch and tablet stuff like a normal Microsoft Surface, but with the PC power.

This is not Windows 8 running on the Samsung Galaxy Tab. This is nothing more than a remote desktop.

Technically you are correct, Windows is running on the server and tablet is just a client.
Though by "running" I mean one way of using Windows 8 on an Android tablet. And it might even be one of the best ways of using Win 8 on a tablet, because of a performance, battery efficiency, extra features and how easy is to set everything up. Yes, it has some trade-offs, it requires a fast connectivity and UI fluidity depends on connection.. but still it's a valid way of using Windows on a tablet. Even more advanced way, because all the latest and greatest technology moves to remote computing so called cloud.
I wouldn't underestimate it because of that it doesn't technically run a tablet itself.. who really cares?

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I wouldn't underestimate it because of that it doesn't technically run a tablet itself.. who really cares?
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The ones who have been looking to run arm Win8 natively on the tablet. You should rename the title of your thread to something more appropriate like running Win8 with remote desktop or in a "cloud" though technically its not a cloud.

Interesting read.
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Why does it matters?
It's slow, first of all... You can clearly see the lag in windows animation, and don't even try to watch an animation with remote desktop, it's unbearable!
And, you NEED another computer/server to work it... So, this mean getting at least the hardware required, plus the licenses. Which would mean spending more than a Windows 8 tablet that would run smoother and natively.

Remote use is useful in small bites
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Technically you are correct, Windows is running on the server and tablet is just a client.
Though by "running" I mean one way of using Windows 8 on an Android tablet. And it might even be one of the best ways of using Win 8 on a tablet, because of a performance, battery efficiency, extra features and how easy is to set everything up. Yes, it has some trade-offs, it requires a fast connectivity and UI fluidity depends on connection.. but still it's a valid way of using Windows on a tablet. Even more advanced way, because all the latest and greatest technology moves to remote computing so called cloud.
I wouldn't underestimate it because of that it doesn't technically run a tablet itself.. who really cares?[/QUOTE
I use my Tab to run Windows XP when I am away from my office for a few hours. Using a blue tooth keyboard makes it pretty usable but having used Win8 I can definitely see where it would be easier with a touch screen. But it's not like being in front of the local OS. I also don't find Win8 very much fun without a touch screen anyway. I doubt anyone will get it to work natively on a Tab. So you are both right. It's not like being there but it's useful in small bites.
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Another thing that even $500 Microsoft Surface doesn't run any of standard Windows apps (only crap apps for Metro). And a full featured Surface Pro is super thick, heavy and even more insanely expensive $1000.
So it turns out that Windows 8 through remote desktop is one the best options for those, who want full featured Win 8 on a tablet.

Splashtop 2 updated its gestures to match Win 8. Pretty awesome since animations are almost seamless compared to remote desktop.

Originalas said:
Another thing that even $500 Microsoft Surface doesn't run any of standard Windows apps (only crap apps for Metro). And a full featured Surface Pro is super thick, heavy and even more insanely expensive $1000.
So it turns out that Windows 8 through remote desktop is one the best options for those, who want full featured Win 8 on a tablet.
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Or you could buy a x86/x64 tablet and run it natively, for less...

Not even possible.. windows 8 is not an open source..
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You do realise most x86/x64 tablet would come with Windows 8 already installed?
The main conscern exists: You have to pay for either a computer or a "server", for the nescessary license and you still won't be able to play videos or have a "lag free" experience like if you'd get a Win8 (with an intel atom or a core i3) and run every thing natively

Cool
I had done the same thing a few days ago and thought it was pretty cool , here how it works on my galaxy tab , I also have a video with it on my nexus 7 but that was before I worked out a few of the lag bugs.
I've also tested it off my local network and it has about the same performance since the bandwidth used by spashtop peaks around 250kbps this is ideal for goofing off with and having the feel of windows 8 on an android tablet. and I was able to verify that the multi touch works with 10 points ( not sure about any more only have ten fingers )
http://youtu.be/zYVPq_zUBWE
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ShawnsCompRepair said:
I had done the same thing a few days ago and thought it was pretty cool , here how it works on my galaxy tab , I also have a video with it on my nexus 7 but that was before I worked out a few of the lag bugs.
I've also tested it off my local network and it has about the same performance since the bandwidth used by spashtop peaks around 250kbps this is ideal for goofing off with and having the feel of windows 8 on an android tablet. and I was able to verify that the multi touch works with 10 points ( not sure about any more only have ten fingers )
http://youtu.be/zYVPq_zUBWE
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Its pretty lag free , for the most part . but when I first installed it, it was very sluggish. after adjusting the the cpu speeds on my tablet it started running smoother, just crank your minimum tablet cpu speed up to about 500mhz and it gets rid of most the lag, then on the virtual machine give it as much ram as you can , in this video I gave the virtual machine 4 cores and 2gb of ram , but I'm now running it with 6gb of ram its about as smooth as butter.
I'm an IT professional and was on site today at an office I work with that has an IT guy that works full time there and I was " Showing him my new windows 8 tablet " and he used it for about ten minutes before saying wait a minute I though this was supposed to have a kick stand in the back, then I came clean with him and he thought it was running natively , Fun fun ....
Shawn

[Q] Windows 8 on Nexus 7

Ok so I've been able to install Windows 8 to a usb using a program called gimagex it can install windows using the wim file. So I'm wondering if it would be possible to do the same with the Nexus 7?

Search and read the thread where you should have posted this. There is a huge discussion about windows 8 . Its illegal
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Why god?
Why?
Why people want to defile android hardware running something that came from Fisher-Price?
No sane person runs that on desktop... surface is a fail also...
And everyone knows that this version (8) is a 'skipper'/avoid at all costs, a Vista if you want...
Course you can't run it! Cause Bill gates say's you can't!
He makes sure of it! (yes he still woks on w'os).
Code:
if (runing(androidHW))
{
blowBlueScreen(randomMessage);
}
You're a lost sheep from the times windows was the only available OS....

muldy said:
Why god?
Why?
Why people want to defile android hardware running something that came from Fisher-Price?
No sane people runs that on desktop... surface is a fail also...
And everyone knows that that version is a 'skipper', a Vista if you want...
Course you can't run it! Cause Bill gates say's you can't!
He makes sure of it! (yes he still woks on w'os).
You're a lost sheep from the times windows was the only available OS....
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Some people just like to do things because they can. It's that spirit that drives open source, ROM creation, etc. Just because is the only reason they need...like the guy trying to hack in a real facing camera on his N7.
Also, I installed Win8 on my Iconia W500 (full OS, not RT) and its not as horrible as all that...increased the speed by at least double that of Win7 too.
That said, I would try RT on my N7 just for grins, but Android would still be my primary baby.
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muldy said:
.....No sane person runs that on desktop... surface is a fail also...
And everyone knows that this version (8) is a 'skipper'/avoid at all costs, a Vista if you want...
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I run it on my Sony Vaio Laptop and it is perfectly fine (yes my Laptop ISN'T Touchscreen but so what?) .........

I personally would think it cool to be able to run to some extent Windows 8 on the Nexus even if it was just accessing a desktop using Splashtop. Mostly because it'd be cool to get that Windows 8 Tablet feel and check out what it'd be like to have a "Windows 8 tablet".
Now before someone goes all "Why would you want to ruin your android tablet it inferior OS?!?!?". I went with an android tablet because they give better customization, I mean hell if you look around, you can find at least one person probably who's tried and succeeded with running something like Ubuntu on it. So the point I'm trying to make is, personal preferences, everyone has them, just because yours varies from someone else's doesn't mean you should put down their ideas.
But the major point that's been hit already, illegal, and if you didn't mind that factor (like people who create hackintosh machines), it'd take a lot of work to get all the proper drivers so the OS would work properly on the device to begin with. Probably more hassle than it's worth.
OFF-TOPIC RANT: Have to disagree with the sentiment that Windows 8 is the new Vista, I use it on both my desktop and my laptop and find it to be not that far removed from Windows 7. There's plenty of improvements to things in Windows 8, but it doesn't feel like they've gone and completely rewrote the OS rather poorly from scratch (lke Vista felt with it's outrageous system requirements) but more like they took something that works (Windows 7) and took steps to improve it and add more features to it. Sure the "Metro" UI is a drastic change when compared to 12+ years of more or less the same UI style (Taskbar + Start Button), but from my experience it can hardly be called a ME, or a Vista.

GabrialDestruir said:
I personally would think it cool to be able to run to some extent Windows 8 on the Nexus even if it was just accessing a desktop using Splashtop. Mostly because it'd be cool to get that Windows 8 Tablet feel and check out what it'd be like to have a "Windows 8 tablet".
Now before someone goes all "Why would you want to ruin your android tablet it inferior OS?!?!?". I went with an android tablet because they give better customization, I mean hell if you look around, you can find at least one person probably who's tried and succeeded with running something like Ubuntu on it. So the point I'm trying to make is, personal preferences, everyone has them, just because yours varies from someone else's doesn't mean you should put down their ideas.
But the major point that's been hit already, illegal, and if you didn't mind that factor (like people who create hackintosh machines), it'd take a lot of work to get all the proper drivers so the OS would work properly on the device to begin with. Probably more hassle than it's worth.
OFF-TOPIC RANT: Have to disagree with the sentiment that Windows 8 is the new Vista, I use it on both my desktop and my laptop and find it to be not that far removed from Windows 7. There's plenty of improvements to things in Windows 8, but it doesn't feel like they've gone and completely rewrote the OS rather poorly from scratch (lke Vista felt with it's outrageous system requirements) but more like they took something that works (Windows 7) and took steps to improve it and add more features to it. Sure the "Metro" UI is a drastic change when compared to 12+ years of more or less the same UI style (Taskbar + Start Button), but from my experience it can hardly be called a ME, or a Vista.
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I would agree.. Windows 8 seems to be less taxing on the devices. I DO not like the Metro ui look thou... But its easy to hack and replace the shell.. As i done.. Search for classic shell. You get your start bar back for windows 8...
Im so glad they tosses aero out the window in windows 8 who needs round corners and 3d looking menu I always turned it off on win 7.
So windows 8 runs flawless on my amd vision APU. And im getting up to 11 hours of battery life over the 8-9 i was with win 7.. This Note book is awesome at sipping power when unpluged.. Plugged up its mind blowing fast for 1.6.
Anyway back on topic .. METRO Sucks if its like what i have on my full windows 8
And no no no Microsoft is not selling licenses for windows rt... Our new windows 8 pc has no coa key either..

Best Windows 8 x64 tablet to dual boot Android

So I'm wanting to completely replace my laptop with a Windows x64 tablet. I also want to dual boot it with Android 4.4.2. In yall's opinion, what current Windows 8 x64 is best capable of doing this? In order to dual boot does the Windows tablet have to meet certain requirements?
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johnnyham89 said:
So I'm wanting to completely replace my laptop with a Windows x64 tablet. I also want to dual boot it with Android 4.4.2. In yall's opinion, what current Windows 8 x64 is best capable of doing this? In order to dual boot does the Windows tablet have to meet certain requirements?
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I would recommend the Asus Transformer Book Trio although it is only Android 4.2.2 at the moment and nobody has successfully rooted it yet.
It provides Win8.x in the dock and Android in the detachable screen. The 2 systems are completely discreet and can be used together (shared screen) or separately as an Android tablet and a desktop (with attached monitor) for Windows.
Personally I love it although it is a tad pricey. The only fail about it is the inclusion of an old spin drive instead of an SSD, but I pulled the 500GB HDD and installed a Samsung EVO 840 500GB SSD. The thing cold boots in 7 seconds and restarts in 10.

Kasush said:
I would recommend the Asus Transformer Book Trio although it is only Android 4.2.2 at the moment and nobody has successfully rooted it yet.
It provides Win8.x in the dock and Android in the detachable screen. The 2 systems are completely discreet and can be used together (shared screen) or separately as an Android tablet and a desktop (with attached monitor) for Windows.
Personally I love it although it is a tad pricey. The only fail about it is the inclusion of an old spin drive instead of an SSD, but I pulled the 500GB HDD and installed a Samsung EVO 840 500GB SSD. The thing cold boots in 7 seconds and restarts in 10.
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I had no idea that something like this existed!! Thanks! You were not lying about it being pricey. I'm really looking to put Android on a Windows 8 tablet myself. Have you heard anything about the Acer w700?
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Yes, the Book Trio is about the ONLY option, even because seems Google and MS and effectively killed the prospects of future dual-boot hardware. Despite its overprice and some ridiculous low-end specs such as slouch-slow spinning hard drive and low RAM, the Trio is an amazing device overall and I've been wanting to buy one for long time myself.. specially now that all the kinks are gone and works very well under Windows 8.1.1.
THE ONLY NO NOs are:
1) Asus positively doesn't care about this device and will NEVER publish any Android Firmware updates so you will be forever stuck with 4.2.2, and worse.
2) No one can get this rooted! No root, no deal. Period.

I think a tablet running Windows 8.1 is really all anyone would need... isn't it?
Windows 8 double interface (classic desktop and modern ui) is just intended to be a "native dual-mode" so you wouldn't need to dual-boot two different OSs so you can use it as a pure-tablet or as a mini-pc.
I understand that Windows Store is not as good as Play Store, but really I can't see anything you could do on an Android tablet that you couldn't in an even better way on a Windows 8.1 one, and anyway there are a lot of android emulators out there, in case you really need one.
Am I wrong?

Uncle Scrooge said:
I think a tablet running Windows 8.1 is really all anyone would need... isn't it?
Windows 8 double interface (classic desktop and modern ui) is just intended to be a "native dual-mode" so you wouldn't need to dual-boot two different OSs so you can use it as a pure-tablet or as a mini-pc.
I understand that Windows Store is not as good as Play Store, but really I can't see anything you could do on an Android tablet that you couldn't in an even better way on a Windows 8.1 one, and anyway there are a lot of android emulators out there, in case you really need one.
Am I wrong?
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Unfortunately yes you are wrong. There are numerous apps that are not available for Windows that are available for Android that do not work in any of the emulators. I strongly considered getting a Surface Pro 2 and using an emulator for the apps that I must have, but all of my must have apps refused to run, or run properly, in the various emulators I tried.
I solved the issue by buying my Trio and have no regrets. I get all of my Android love and can still switch over to Windows to do the work related tasks when I need to. I have actually found some nice apps in Windows, as well as some less than stellar ones. I am a fond user of Tapatalk and can tell you that I prefer to use Tapatalk on Android than Windows. Although Tapatalk is prettier in Windows it is significantly slower. I can puruse through the forums on Android with ease, but the same actions are painfully slow in Windows.
I have several games I play in Android that have no counterpart in Windows. Gmail has no Windows client that is on par with Google's. You cannot even archive in the most popular Gmail client in Windows.
Obviously, you are a fan of Windows based on your subjective statement that there isn't anything you couldn't do in an even better way in Windows than Android and that is great. Choice is what makes technology wonderful. I recognize that both platforms excel at certain tasks and fail at others so I focus on using the OS that is the best for each task.
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Kasush said:
I have several games I play in Android that have no counterpart in Windows. Gmail has no Windows client that is on par with Google's. You cannot even archive in the most popular Gmail client in Windows.
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Most of your post is a matter of personal opinions so I won't dispute much else. But I personally just use the built in mail app for GMail.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
Most of your post is a matter of personal opinions so I won't dispute much else. But I personally just use the built in mail app for GMail.
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I have no wish to argue, but can you archive Gmail content using Windows mail client? Metromail cannot, despite being the top ranked Gmail client in the store.
Additionally, I intentionally used terms that were objective to keep personal opinion out of my post. I compared the performance of apps across the two platforms and referred to apps that are not available natively that I use regularly. I also acknowledged that both platforms have good and bad points.
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I'm not a fan of Windows in general, I just think that Windows is much better for tablets (just because you have almost a full-featured PC) than android, in general.
I think the Mail app in Windows 8 works just fine for Gmail, but this is just my personal opinion.
I'm a fan of Android for my smartphone instead and wouldn't ever consider replacing it with a Windows Phone

I think my Windows Asus T100 and Android Nexus 7 each have their pros and cons - but I think the hassles of dual boot would be more annoying. E.g., even if there was an app for a website on Android, rebooting to use that would be more annoying than simply viewing the website in Windows. And even if say Gmail is better on Android, do I want to have to reboot just to check email?
The Trio is more interesting in that it can apparently run both together, but because the Windows portion relies on technology in the keyboard, this only works when in laptop mode - you can't access Windows at all when in tablet mode. I think this would lose one of the big advantages of a convertible - being able to pull off the tablet from the keyboard to say, show/view some photos, or a PDF.
Also consider that the Trio is significantly more expensive than say the T100 and a Nexus 7 put together. It's also heavier too (1.7Kg for Trio; versus 1.1Kg for T100 and 0.3Kg for Nexus 7). So one option if you want the best of both platforms is just to get two devices.
Gmail works with IMAP, so use any email client you like.
There are less website-wrapper apps for Windows, but I never really understood this - if using an app is so much better than the website, why aren't there apps for Windows laptop/PC users? I though the whole point of mobile apps was because devices were too rubbish/underpowered to support the website. But if you've got a PC tablet, not an oversized fisher price phone, you can just run the website