Slide to wake or touch to wake? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anybody have insight if this is possible on n4? Would be a downgrade if not possible. I am surprised touch to wake isn't on every phone by now. Bb10 phones are rumored to have it.
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@rbiter said:
Anybody have insight if this is possible on n4? Would be a downgrade if not possible. I am surprised touch to wake isn't on every phone by now. Bb10 phones are rumored to have it.
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I know what you're talking about, I have it on my sensation but it uses capacitive buttons to work and the nexus 4 uses on screen ones. I don't know if you could get out working without a hw mod
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I'm sure there are apps out there that do this. The biggest problem with what you want is that the screen/digitizer has to be active to achieve it. With the current unlock system Android, Apple, and Windows Phones have they save battery by making sure the screen is off. Can you imagine the phone always registering every touch? In my opinion it would be a downgrade to have that feature. But if you really want it then maybe look into this. http://lifehacker.com/5921321/smart...lay-on-or-off-when-you-wave-your-hand-over-it

Not interested in an app like that. Tried it a long time ago and it is terrible in real world use. Pgm nexus works awesome. Haven't seen any noticeable hit in battery life since Ive been using it. There are a few kernel I believe that you can use touch to wake, but nothing to my knowledge that has slide to wake/unlock. I rarely ever use my power button. So then lucky beneficiary of my phone soon will get a pristine nexus. USB ports hardly used also because of car and pogo dock and wireless data transfers.
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the developer of pgm says the n4 isn't sold in his country...a donation thread to help him get a phone would be cool

ceejay83 said:
the developer of pgm says the n4 isn't sold in his country...a donation thread to help him get a phone would be cool
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Would be more than happy to start a donate thread but I want my damn phone first. And I am sure everybody else does too. Then we can donate and wait.
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Intensive usage of the hardware keys may wear them out leaving them un-usable!!

Hello fellow XDA people!
I know some guys are going to bust my ass for this, but i'll take the risk!
I know this is a double post but you can't let this thread Die because eventually everyone will expierence this problem!! Just hear me out and I already apologize for double posting!
XDA member ducklas1, posted a thread on hardkeys and by the extensive use of it while using android.. see (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841559)
I've been downloading Android roms since day 1, and my hardkeys started to be worn out.. Initially i thought it was a factory manufactoring issue so I sent my HD2 to the service center and they fixed it...
Now that i have my HD2 back for 2 months I'm starting to expierence the same thing.. By using android we are using the hardkeys a lot more then we do with WM6! And believe me everyone will eventually expierience the same issues as i spoke with numerous people here on XDA and friends of mine..
I'm not as smart as a lot of you people out there so i can't make an adjustment on android so i wont use our hardkeys that much..
So please DEVS (your are all my heroes) can you guys look into this?? The link i posted above from ducklas1's thread has an idea which looks awesome! Maybe that's an idea to do??
Maybe there's an app i dont know about which solves our issues.. (and there are a lot of people expierencing this)
Don't let this thread die (like ducklas1's) ! We all needs this! And your hardkeys will die as well!!
Thank you for your time..
MOD EDIT:: @OP - PLEASE EDIT THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD TO SOMETHING LESS MISLEADING AND MORE SUITABLE. THIS IS NOT AN ANDROID SPECIFIC ISSUE. IT ENCOMPASSES BOTH WM AND ANDROID AND IT IS NOT A WIDESPREAD ISSUE. PLEASE UPDATE THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD ACCORDINGLY.
MOD EDIT2:: TITLE CHANGED SINCE OP REFUSED TO RESPOND.
I am in....
The buttons from my phone are ok,want to leave it that way lol.
So softkeys with some kind of app would be great.
no offence but this is hilarious)))..
reminds me of 'Every time you masturbate... God kills a kitten'.
lol once again sry for offtopic..
and umm to be honest it sounds ridiculous.
jeje si true, but i think this trhead is off topic
It was you... wasn't it!
palakat said:
no offence but this is hilarious)))..
reminds me of 'Every time you masturbate... God kills a kitten'.
lol once again sry for offtopic..
and umm to be honest it sounds ridiculous.
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A work colleagues kitten died yesterday... which one of you did it!!! \[V_v]/
no need to worry about this...really
when they die, grab a new phone
i use android since july on my HD2...till now hardkeys works great..!no problem at all..!dont know why that happened to you...!probably you had a manufacturer mistaken phone
I know three people who have HD2 and two of them have this problem after one year using.
maybe its just the way you use it
Maybe you have giant hands and killed the buttons...
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I know three people who have HD2 and two of them have this problem after one year using.
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which hard key/keys are going bad for them?
the only time i use the hard keys is to wake the phone up, but i would be doing the same in WM too so i don't see how's it's a big deal
It's a phone, you buy it to use it, and button are there to use them.
If you want to save your buttons (screen, cpu, etc), put HD2 under the glass, buy some cheap nokia and use it instead.
(I love my hard buttons, it's much better then soft button on EVO/Desire HD)
i don't have some problems ...
killer!
you button murderer!!!!
Sounds like an individual issue
The first HD2 i had my keys "died" in about a month. I couldn't press them, they would get stuck and sometimes i would press one key and it would activate another. T-Mobile exchanged my HD2 for a new one and, for 8 months now they have been perfect with using Android since it was first released.
So, i would say warranty your phone again or practice tearing it apart and replacing the keys ever-so-often.
This is actually quite ordinary. Hardware keys are only good for a certain number of presses which is dependent on the amount of pressure you put on them. Sooner or later, all hardware keys wear out. Some phones may have better quality keys. Now, considering the fact that buttons are a crucial part of android, the phone needs better buttons if it's going to survive more than 1-2 years.
Touch screens however have a much longer life. I assume this must be the case with capacitive buttons too.
Edit: An edit just to say why I think android is more dependent on hard keys. Of course, it seems so obvious, but it's funny how some people can't understand it.
Most android apps don't have any kind of menu bar at the bottom. So to bring up the menus you have to hit the HD2's windows button. There's also no soft X, so you have to press back and home buttons a lot more than in winmo. These 3 buttons wear out more quickly when you're using android.
The truth is that keys on hd2, and every other phone/device for that matter, do die, some easiers thatn others. My power off/screen lock key died in the first two months of having it when there was no android on the horizon yet. Still works but feels like it stays in all the time, not causing any problems though. Another truth is that as much as I love my hd2 iI'm already thinking of replacing in with either a Hd2 t-mobile(1gb ram) or desire hd. The first is a cheaper choice the latter being the new kid on the block. Sorry for rumbling but the point is that devices have an expiration date, change is usually good so don't overthink it, just buy another phone.
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palakat said:
no offence but this is hilarious)))..
reminds me of 'Every time you masturbate... God kills a kitten'.
lol once again sry for offtopic..
and umm to be honest it sounds ridiculous.
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You have a rather sick mentality,
next time post something useful and relevant to the topic, or keep your trap shut ...
the Issue raised about the HD2's buttons wearing out is a valid one, but If I am not mistaken, someone else has already created a thread to discuss this matter.
regards.
vartp said:
It's a phone, you buy it to use it, and button are there to use them.
If you want to save your buttons (screen, cpu, etc), put HD2 under the glass, buy some cheap nokia and use it instead.
(I love my hard buttons, it's much better then soft button on EVO/Desire HD)
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The problem is excessive use of the Hard buttons can wear them out ...
mines o.k so far,
regards.
This is the most insane concept ever. To say that one uses the hard keys in Android more than in WM6 is base-less. It makes no sense. In fact I would venture to say I use the hard keys LESS in Android than in WM6 because most of the apps in Android have been thought out and perfected. I also use Launcher Pro and have my most used apps available to me at the mere touch of a screen.
This is NOT an Android issue. Period. Morons.
Someone close this nonsense thread.

can you turn the screen on without pushing power button?

title says it all; its a PITA to reach around through the case to turn the screen on all the time, and, even though the screen is supposed to come on when you push the menu key on the hardware keyboard, it doesnt work that way, at least for me..
Can anyone offer any other suggestions?
I know once I root this, there will be other choices, but, I want to learn more about the device before I root it
thanks so much for your help!
no, since xoom doesnt have soft keys so the only way to turn the screen on its to touch the power button. in other terms if you want to wake the xoom up when screen is off you need to press power button.
hopefully, some one will develop a software fix
for this; I cant be the only person that is annoyed by this..
thanks!
What's so hard about pressing the power button?
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if you have the motorola folio case on it, its a pain reaching through the cut out every few minutes to turn the screen on..
Idk if it works on the xoom but simply lockscreen on the market has a feature that uses the devices proximity sensor to unlock the phone, it might be just what you are looking for. Like I said, not sure about compatibility but the developer is pretty active here on xda and he might be able to figure something out.
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Idk if it works on the xoom but simply lockscreen on the market has a feature that uses the devices proximity sensor to unlock the phone, it might be just what you are looking for. Like I said, not sure about compatibility but the developer is pretty active here on xda and he might be able to figure something out.
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The Xoom does not have a proximity sensor. One developer that frequents the forms and gave us all a screenshot app for the Xoom for free, has an App Killswitch which does the opposite action that you want. When you close the case, the light sensor senses the darkness and turns the screen off. It would take more battery but likewise would be possible to do it the way you wish when opening the cover. Maybe if we ask nicely, he can make it happen
well, I installed nolock, from the market, and it reduces the steps to one to get the screen on; when you push the power button, there is no lock screen to go through, which helps, but I wish there was a way to wake it up with either the keyboard, or just tapping the screen..
I'm sure this will come one of these days..
EDIT: It only works sometimes, not ready for 3.0 I guess....
It is possible but will not work until we have a deodexed ROM. The is a way to remap the volume keys to wake the screen but as soon as the keyguard kicks in the volume keys are disabled. With a deodexed ROM I can disable keyguard. An alterative option I might be able to work out is to wake the screen with a paired keyboard via blurtooth. So far in my testing this is working well.
Basically I have mapped the F1 key on my keyboard to wake/sleep the Xoom.
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that would be fantastic!
I bought the moto keyboard, hoping those features might be baked into it, but they arent.
I could have saved 70 bucks, and just used my apple mini BT keyboard...
Keep us informed, and if you need a tester, I will be glad to help out!
thanks
wase4711 said:
that would be fantastic!
I bought the moto keyboard, hoping those features might be baked into it, but they arent.
I could have saved 70 bucks, and just used my apple mini BT keyboard...
Keep us informed, and if you need a tester, I will be glad to help out!
thanks
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Try to push the below file using adb ... you need root for this to work. After rebooting the right ctrl key on the Motorola keyboard should become a power button for you. Let the screen goto sleep for a few minutes and attempt to wake it using the button. Let me know if this works.
Download:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?hsqqsehpcjr812t
ADB PUSH:
adb remount
adb push Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl \system\usr\keylayout\Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl
adb reboot
Make sure you unplug the USB cable before testing. I think while it is plugged into USB keyguard is disabled.
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Getting Back to Default Settings:
Download:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3sxm4n1wh86a7u8
ADB Push:
adb remount
adb push Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl \system\usr\keylayout\Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl
adb reboot
I appreciate it man, but I haven't rooted the xoom yet..
I want to wait a bit, and learn it better before I do.
Even when I got my evo last june, I waited a few weeks b4 rooting to learn it beter.
thank you for the file!
This has been discussed many times on this forum.
Long story short, I agree with you, especially since I leave the xoom on a table during a meeting. My solution...I downloaded Widgetsoid2.x. Among other widgets, I have a no turn-off widget on my main page. walking into a meeting, i hit it, forcing the xoom to stay on. obviously kills the battery, but i still get two full days.
not pretty, but it works.
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I appreciate it man, but I haven't rooted the xoom yet..
I want to wait a bit, and learn it better before I do.
Even when I got my evo last june, I waited a few weeks b4 rooting to learn it beter.
thank you for the file!
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I guess I figured everyone was like me and rooted on day one. LOL. No problem. Anyone else with a Moto keyboard give that file a shot and let me know. It will only work with the Moto keyboard.
wase4711 said:
its a PITA to reach around through the case to turn the screen on all the time
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?! ... it is?
Never did get why people malign the power-button placement so much. I think it's perfect, myself ....
kcrudup said:
?! ... it is?
Never did get why people malign the power-button placement so much. I think it's perfect, myself ....
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I personally don't like the power button placement myself. It's all personal preference. But that's the benefit of getting and Android platform right? If something doesn't quite fit our preference we can personalize it. I think that's all the OP is asking for.
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I personally don't like the power button placement myself. It's all personal preference. But that's the benefit of getting and Android platform right? If something doesn't quite fit our preference we can personalize it. I think that's all the OP is asking for.
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Ditto. The case I bought till a nice option comes along doesn't have the hole for the power button. That's why I started looking for alternative options.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016594
Posted the how-to in the dev section for Moto/Apple/Generic Bluetooth keyboards for those interested.
What is that you are doing that it is going to sleep? The easiest thing would be not to let it sleep so quick. Set the timeout to 15 minutes or something.
I guess I am still treating this like my EVO, which, doesnt get the best battery life if you leave it on too long..this thing gets awesum battery life, so I think I wll start leaving the screen on longer, until someone comes up with software that will wake it up easily..

Funny Story

Do you guys remember when I asked you to help me decide between Nexus S and Galaxy S1? Well if you do remember my main reasoning for the exchange was that I hate the capacitative buttons from under the display? This morning at about 7amI was walking in my home town, playng some music on the smartphone and I notice this new shop for repairing phones just opened up and thats when it hit my, a great ideea! I go in and ask the cashier if I can talk to the guy that does the actual repairing, then I show him my phone. When he asks what is wrong with it I tell him that nothing is wrong and that I want to permanently remove the 4 buttons from under the display to save battery life and make it look loke Galaxy Nexus. The guy looks at the phone, a couple of times, then he asks me a couple of times why I wanna do this (it was morning and he probably thought he's not hearing me right), then he just told me that he usualy is asked to repayr not take out stuf. As I walked out of the shop I lookt back for a second and the guys inside had some stunned faces on, it was preety funny. So tonight I'm sayving all my data, apps and mp3 on my laptop and then tomorow I take the phone to the shop. I'll keep you posted on how battery life is after this moove. I will finally get rid of those stressful buttons
Really you want to completely disable your capacitive buttons by opening it and screwing with its internals? :screwy: Why not just use a software solution like everybody else? There is a possibility that the repair guy screws with more than just the buttons, but then it will be to late. But on the other hand it's your phone and you can do what ever you want with it
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JerryPi said:
Really you want to completely disable your capacitive buttons by opening it and screwing with its internals? :screwy: Why not just use a software solution like everybody else? There is a possibility that the repair guy screws with more than just the buttons, but then it will be to late. But on the other hand it's your phone and you can do what ever you want with it
Sent from my Nexus S
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In about two months I'll be upgrading so eaven if I dont want to sell my Nexus S it will be my second device, sotr of a mp3 player with cool features, but if all goes well I'll have a Galaxy Nexus or a Note at the beguining of the sommer, I would desassemble it myself but if to afrayd to
But have you even tried back light dimmer, coupled with a mod that completely disables the capacitive buttons? This is a software mod that can be reversed if you don't like it. If it gets opened and modified so that the buttons don't work it will probably be irreversible. I would never do something like that to my precious Nexus S, even if i would be upgrading in the near future
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But have you even tried back light dimmer, coupled with a mod that completely disables the capacitive buttons? This is a software mod that can be reversed if you don't like it. If it gets opened and modified so that the buttons don't work it will probably be irreversible. I would never do something like that to my precious Nexus S, even if i would be upgrading in the near future
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I've tryed but somehow it seames to work best on gingerbread or ICS, with JB it's a little more unstable, sometimes it works really well and sometimes it just keeps lighting up, it's creappy, it's bothering me....you have to understand that the only thing that I hate on this phone are the 4 buttons, it's like painting Mona Lisa with a big ugly mustache, it ruins it all for me
On the other hand, i find them very useful, they function like a warning beacon to when i receive a SMS or a notification.
And usualy, without the notifications, they are turned off.
Step 1. Flash any custom kernel, use nstools, disable BLN and BLD.
Step 2. If you're on a custom rom, go to hardware keys settings and set all button actions to "none"
I don't get this :/
ej8989 said:
Step 1. Flash any custom kernel, use nstools, disable BLN and BLD.
Step 2. If you're on a custom rom, go to hardware keys settings and set all button actions to "none"
I don't get this :/
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aaa ok, thanks, I didn't try this way
I made this some time ago, I really wanted the galaxy nexus look, but after some time, it gets pretty boring. I would advise you not to do any hardware mods on your phone, as people said before, its a pretty easy software mod.
This is compatible with 4.1/4.2, if you want to turn off backlights, use NSTools. If you wanna reverse it, reflash the rom.
Flash it with CWM
Serris said:
I made this some time ago, I really wanted the galaxy nexus look, but after some time, it gets pretty boring. I would advise you not to do any hardware mods on your phone, as people said before, its a pretty easy software mod.
This is compatible with 4.1/4.2, if you want to turn off backlights, use NSTools. If you wanna reverse it, reflash the rom.
Flash it with CWM
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Thank you
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lol

Nexus 6 has double tap to wake

Nexus 6 imports the double tap to wake up a function so valued by users of the LG G2 + ome confirmed by +Mathew Honan of +WIRED that has got to pick it up and test it.
midan said:
Nexus 6 imports the double tap to wake up a function so valued by users of the LG G2 + ome confirmed by +Mathew Honan of +WIRED that has got to pick it up and test it.
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Nice! Love this feature. Always envious of lg for that. How much does it effect battery life
noticed the nexus 9 has it too on a video i saw.
Maybe that's a typo or he got confused with the 9? Strange that nobody else mentioned what would be a pretty big feature...
I hopefully does it, because after getting use to it on my g3, i catch me some times trying to wake my other devices with double tap
I loved that feature on my G2, M8, and now G3...but with my G3 always turning on in my pocket I was ready to be over that feature.
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Maybe that's a typo or he got confused with the 9? Strange that nobody else mentioned what would be a pretty big feature...
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"In his hands on, Honan specifically calls out the feature, although some were still left wondering if it could have been a misprint (the Nexus 9 also has tap-to-wake). We reached out to the author where he was able to confirm that yes, this is, in fact, a feature found in the Nexus 6 and was most certainly not posted in error. Boom" -Phandroid
Glad google included this feature. I guess other people just didnt try to tap it?
This is great news!
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Maybe that's a typo or he got confused with the 9? Strange that nobody else mentioned what would be a pretty big feature...
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As you can see it is not a mistake to have given the news in preview
Also double-tap to sleep (turn-off)?
Here is the article from Wired. The confirmation is in the comment section.
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/hands-on-with-lollipop-and-nexus/
It's a 5.0 feature from what I saw.
Bataga said:
It's a 5.0 feature from what I saw.
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Only in today's day all the major blogs have given prominence to the news
gogol said:
Also double-tap to sleep (turn-off)?
Here is the article from Wired. The confirmation is in the comment section.
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/hands-on-with-lollipop-and-nexus/
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Yes! That's even better. I won't even miss my g2 then with the heads up notifications and the double tap to sleep and wake it'll be the features. that I used most. Only thing I'll miss are the nice camera features like burst shot and some of the other effects. And the floating apps and dual app use but I didn't use those as much
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Here's a direct link to the comments where it is specificlly confirmed. Ironically. It's my comment he's replying to.
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/hands-on-with-lollipop-and-nexus/#comment-1649047442
I'm not a fan of bringing back dead posts but double tap to wake does not work on the nexus 6, or at least not on mine.
I'm still hoping they included it, just not yet enabled. Or maybe a dev can activate it, especially since it is on the Nexus 9. Key will be if the digitizer and screen are on different power planes so as not to drain battery.
Pilz said:
I'm not a fan of bringing back dead posts but double tap to wake does not work on the nexus 6, or at least not on mine.
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It's been confirmed a while ago that it doesn't have it. There's a commit that removes it specifically.
Good thing its a nexus. We will have the option down the road I'm sure
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It's been confirmed a while ago that it doesn't have it. There's a commit that removes it specifically.
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I hope a Dev can enable it with a new kernel I miss that from my G3
Its only worth enabling if it doesn't completely drain the battery IMO ... and that depends on hardware .. thats the reason why Nexus 5 couldnt really use it ( even after activated by the devs ) because the hardware wasn't right :
It had to keep power to the entire screen rather than just the digitiser, thats why the G3 etc don't drain the battery .. lets hope the Nexus 6 screen is built to supply different power to the digitiser and actual screen

Fingerprint - Unlocking from Always On Screen

Does the fingerprint unlock require that you press the home button? From my understanding, you only needed to place your finger on the home button for it to unlock.
alexc1992 said:
Does the fingerprint unlock require that you press the home button? From my understanding, you only needed to place your finger on the home button for it to unlock.
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Always on acts as the screen was off, so yes, you have to press the home button first, but you can just leave it on the button after pressing and it will unlock straight away.
Or, you can activate the edge screen by swiping at the edge, when the edge screen comes up (AOD would disappear) , place your finger on the scanner, and the screen would unlock
I really hope samsung brings an update to just unlock the phone by placing the finger on the home button. No pressing and all. It feels so much better like that on iphone and nexus.
ethan3686 said:
I really hope samsung brings an update to just unlock the phone by placing the finger on the home button. No pressing and all. It feels so much better like that on iphone and nexus.
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it will then has huge battery drain
emprize said:
it will then has huge battery drain
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Well, if a hardware component is designed to be always-on, it will not drain the battery. For example, the edge swipe will not drain the battery although it keeps the touch controller on. On the LG G5 and Nexus 6P the fingerprint sensor is always-on and does not drain the battery.
However, if Samsung did not design their sensor to be always-on, then there is not much that can be done via a software update.
ethan3686 said:
I really hope samsung brings an update to just unlock the phone by placing the finger on the home button. No pressing and all. It feels so much better like that on iphone and nexus.
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They, won't. That is how their phones work, by design.
I prefer it that way, but I can understand that you can't please everyone.
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JasonJoel said:
They, won't. That is how their phones work, by design. I prefer it that way, but I can understand that you can't please everyone.
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Well, how about a simple setting to switch between the two modes. If the hardware is designed for always-on, it can surely work when pressing the home button first.
Yes, but when they add options/toggles all over the place then a bunch of people complain that it is too bloated or complicated... They can't win either way.
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Yes, but when they add options/toggles all over the place then a bunch of people complain that it is too bloated or complicated... They can't win either way.
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I do know I'm reviving a severely old thread but honestly can't give two ****s. If you're here to complain about it being revived go ***** and moan to the mods.
Anyways. Glad we got that out of that way.
Here's the flaw in that logic.
1. Most people like extra features. I.e. literally ****ing everyone on xda
2. Even if bull**** did arise (which it wouldn't) they could just move it to developer options. That **** on there is basically all useless anyways.
And 3. It's not "adding options and toggles all over the place". It's 1. Signle. Toggle. Honestly I couldn't care if they had a toggle for that or not but it just pissed me off that you were so keen on shutting this idea down and op didn't even respond to you. Dickhole.
Edit: P.s. excuse my french.
Zoruda said:
I do know I'm reviving a severely old thread but honestly can't give two ****s. If you're here to complain about it being revived go ***** and moan to the mods.
Anyways. Glad we got that out of that way.
Here's the flaw in that logic.
1. Most people like extra features. I.e. literally ****ing everyone on xda
2. Even if bull**** did arise (which it wouldn't) they could just move it to developer options. That **** on there is basically all useless anyways.
And 3. It's not "adding options and toggles all over the place". It's 1. Signle. Toggle. Honestly I couldn't care if they had a toggle for that or not but it just pissed me off that you were so keen on shutting this idea down and op didn't even respond to you. Dickhole.
Edit: P.s. excuse my french.
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First, name calling is childish, and often a sign of low intelligence. That might not be true of you, but that is how it comes across in writing.
To comment on your points:
1. Most people on XDA, yes, which is a super small minority of all users. It has been shown many times that average consumers (the overall majority by almost 10:1) want products simpler.
2. I agree that a good way to handle additional options would be to shove them in a separate developer or advanced settings area.
3. Noted. That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. Just don't assume your opinion matches what the majority of the overall population want.
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That's not an opinion. That's a fact. It's 1 toggle. Just one. It's not like they're opening another section in the settings. Just one toggle. And if they want simpler phones they can go to iPhone. That's what iPhone is for. The technologically uninclined. OP is just talking about one single toggle that will let you choose between one option or another. It's not even that hard to code in. I highly doubt that not almost everyone wants more settings. More settings is great! You can make your phone your phone! You can have it do exactly what you want. Whether it be consuming extra power for a fingerprint scanner or conserving it. Hell put it in the toggles for powersaving so when they turn power saving on the fingerprint turns off until it's clicked. Literally so many ways you could go about this. You could make it so the scanner is on between 8am and 10pm but off at night. You could make it so if the phone hasn't been touched within an hour the scanner turns off. There's no reason not to have extra features. Unless you're super old. Then I think you'd want less features. That's what easy mode is for. (oh and apple is for that too. That's why so many old lady's have iPhones and so many old men have Android's. I would guess at least)
Edit: I also only called you a dickhole because I was pissed that you shot this dude's idea down until he gave up. You were just being a dickhole to him. So that's why I said that.

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