Does the fingerprint unlock require that you press the home button? From my understanding, you only needed to place your finger on the home button for it to unlock.
alexc1992 said:
Does the fingerprint unlock require that you press the home button? From my understanding, you only needed to place your finger on the home button for it to unlock.
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Always on acts as the screen was off, so yes, you have to press the home button first, but you can just leave it on the button after pressing and it will unlock straight away.
Or, you can activate the edge screen by swiping at the edge, when the edge screen comes up (AOD would disappear) , place your finger on the scanner, and the screen would unlock
I really hope samsung brings an update to just unlock the phone by placing the finger on the home button. No pressing and all. It feels so much better like that on iphone and nexus.
ethan3686 said:
I really hope samsung brings an update to just unlock the phone by placing the finger on the home button. No pressing and all. It feels so much better like that on iphone and nexus.
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it will then has huge battery drain
emprize said:
it will then has huge battery drain
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Well, if a hardware component is designed to be always-on, it will not drain the battery. For example, the edge swipe will not drain the battery although it keeps the touch controller on. On the LG G5 and Nexus 6P the fingerprint sensor is always-on and does not drain the battery.
However, if Samsung did not design their sensor to be always-on, then there is not much that can be done via a software update.
ethan3686 said:
I really hope samsung brings an update to just unlock the phone by placing the finger on the home button. No pressing and all. It feels so much better like that on iphone and nexus.
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They, won't. That is how their phones work, by design.
I prefer it that way, but I can understand that you can't please everyone.
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JasonJoel said:
They, won't. That is how their phones work, by design. I prefer it that way, but I can understand that you can't please everyone.
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Well, how about a simple setting to switch between the two modes. If the hardware is designed for always-on, it can surely work when pressing the home button first.
Yes, but when they add options/toggles all over the place then a bunch of people complain that it is too bloated or complicated... They can't win either way.
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Yes, but when they add options/toggles all over the place then a bunch of people complain that it is too bloated or complicated... They can't win either way.
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I do know I'm reviving a severely old thread but honestly can't give two ****s. If you're here to complain about it being revived go ***** and moan to the mods.
Anyways. Glad we got that out of that way.
Here's the flaw in that logic.
1. Most people like extra features. I.e. literally ****ing everyone on xda
2. Even if bull**** did arise (which it wouldn't) they could just move it to developer options. That **** on there is basically all useless anyways.
And 3. It's not "adding options and toggles all over the place". It's 1. Signle. Toggle. Honestly I couldn't care if they had a toggle for that or not but it just pissed me off that you were so keen on shutting this idea down and op didn't even respond to you. Dickhole.
Edit: P.s. excuse my french.
Zoruda said:
I do know I'm reviving a severely old thread but honestly can't give two ****s. If you're here to complain about it being revived go ***** and moan to the mods.
Anyways. Glad we got that out of that way.
Here's the flaw in that logic.
1. Most people like extra features. I.e. literally ****ing everyone on xda
2. Even if bull**** did arise (which it wouldn't) they could just move it to developer options. That **** on there is basically all useless anyways.
And 3. It's not "adding options and toggles all over the place". It's 1. Signle. Toggle. Honestly I couldn't care if they had a toggle for that or not but it just pissed me off that you were so keen on shutting this idea down and op didn't even respond to you. Dickhole.
Edit: P.s. excuse my french.
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First, name calling is childish, and often a sign of low intelligence. That might not be true of you, but that is how it comes across in writing.
To comment on your points:
1. Most people on XDA, yes, which is a super small minority of all users. It has been shown many times that average consumers (the overall majority by almost 10:1) want products simpler.
2. I agree that a good way to handle additional options would be to shove them in a separate developer or advanced settings area.
3. Noted. That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. Just don't assume your opinion matches what the majority of the overall population want.
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That's not an opinion. That's a fact. It's 1 toggle. Just one. It's not like they're opening another section in the settings. Just one toggle. And if they want simpler phones they can go to iPhone. That's what iPhone is for. The technologically uninclined. OP is just talking about one single toggle that will let you choose between one option or another. It's not even that hard to code in. I highly doubt that not almost everyone wants more settings. More settings is great! You can make your phone your phone! You can have it do exactly what you want. Whether it be consuming extra power for a fingerprint scanner or conserving it. Hell put it in the toggles for powersaving so when they turn power saving on the fingerprint turns off until it's clicked. Literally so many ways you could go about this. You could make it so the scanner is on between 8am and 10pm but off at night. You could make it so if the phone hasn't been touched within an hour the scanner turns off. There's no reason not to have extra features. Unless you're super old. Then I think you'd want less features. That's what easy mode is for. (oh and apple is for that too. That's why so many old lady's have iPhones and so many old men have Android's. I would guess at least)
Edit: I also only called you a dickhole because I was pissed that you shot this dude's idea down until he gave up. You were just being a dickhole to him. So that's why I said that.
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So, I got the vibrant, and overall I like it because its much more responsive than both my G1 and MyTouch, but kind of have the following thoughts.
1. I feel having an LED has to be a big mistake/oversight. I cant imagine the LED would have much added cost for samsung nor be very big/require much space. Yet would have a GREAT improvment on the user experience. I hate not being able to glance at my phone and see what happened. Plus, it's alot less battery than having to turn on the screen. There are some hacks - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725458 - being done to compensate, but none are 'great' solutions, although clever.
2. Battery life - for an AMOLED screen, I'm surprised my battery drains as fast as it does. It lasts me 3/4 of a day more or less. I do have a few things installed, and do use the feed widgt for facebook etc, and have gmail and work email synced. I think it still doesnt last as long as it should. I'm considering removing the facebook widget and adjusting sync times to get more battery back, but still feels lacking.
P.S. : Isnt there some sort of App that can help me identify which apps are using the most battery/CPU time?
3. Calendar Notification - This is something I cant understand. I have worke mail synced to my phone, as well as my calendar for it synced. I get long vibrations and sound (if my phone isnt on vibrate), but there is no way I can find to adjust the notification to be less annoying. I know other users have noticed the same issue
4. Bloatware - I dont mind the fact that they install alot of apps on the phone that other users may find interesting, but I really feel they should make it easier to remove them. I shouldnt have to go through extra effort to get the bloatware removed.
5. Camera App - its a nice app, but I dont like how after taking a picture it does not switch back to camera... you have to hit the back button.
6. Power on button - You already have to do a slide to unlock... why on earth is the power button so small and obtrusive? I feel this is a bit quircky.
7. Proximity sensor - I dont know about you guys, but it took me a while to figure out why, when I am on the phone, the screen kept lighting up on and off. I *think* I figured out that the proximity sensor right next to the ear piece detects if your head is near the phone, and if it is away from it, it will light up the phone. I find this rather annoying, maybe I hold the phone awkwardly, but several times it has lit up while talking and I've accidentally muted etc.
So ya, </rant>
Overall, the phone is nice and a well needed improvement over my previous phone, but I feel there were just a few simple things that samsung could of done to make it a solid release.
What do others think?
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So, I got the vibrant, and overall I like it because its much more responsive than both my G1 and MyTouch, but kind of have the following thoughts.
1. I feel having an LED has to be a big mistake/oversight. I cant imagine the LED would have much added cost for samsung nor be very big/require much space. Yet would have a GREAT improvment on the user experience. I hate not being able to glance at my phone and see what happened. Plus, it's alot less battery than having to turn on the screen. There are some hacks - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725458 - being done to compensate, but none are 'great' solutions, although clever.
2. Battery life - for an AMOLED screen, I'm surprised my battery drains as fast as it does. It lasts me 3/4 of a day more or less. I do have a few things installed, and do use the feed widgt for facebook etc, and have gmail and work email synced. I think it still doesnt last as long as it should. I'm considering removing the facebook widget and adjusting sync times to get more battery back, but still feels lacking.
P.S. : Isnt there some sort of App that can help me identify which apps are using the most battery/CPU time?
3. Calendar Notification - This is something I cant understand. I have worke mail synced to my phone, as well as my calendar for it synced. I get long vibrations and sound (if my phone isnt on vibrate), but there is no way I can find to adjust the notification to be less annoying. I know other users have noticed the same issue
4. Bloatware - I dont mind the fact that they install alot of apps on the phone that other users may find interesting, but I really feel they should make it easier to remove them. I shouldnt have to go through extra effort to get the bloatware removed.
5. Camera App - its a nice app, but I dont like how after taking a picture it does not switch back to camera... you have to hit the back button.
6. Power on button - You already have to do a slide to unlock... why on earth is the power button so small and obtrusive? I feel this is a bit quircky.
7. Proximity sensor - I dont know about you guys, but it took me a while to figure out why, when I am on the phone, the screen kept lighting up on and off. I *think* I figured out that the proximity sensor right next to the ear piece detects if your head is near the phone, and if it is away from it, it will light up the phone. I find this rather annoying, maybe I hold the phone awkwardly, but several times it has lit up while talking and I've accidentally muted etc.
So ya, </rant>
Overall, the phone is nice and a well needed improvement over my previous phone, but I feel there were just a few simple things that samsung could of done to make it a solid release.
What do others think?
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Waaaaaaa, I had to work last night and it sucked, When I got home the house was dirty obviously the wife didnt clean... I then proceeded to the bathroom where I stepped in a big turd from my dog, damn. After the turd I went to eat something and found the bread to be stale.. Now all the sudden My car wont start and I dont know whats wrong. On top of that I accidently sharted myself and now Im a Mess.....
Whooo cares, most of those are personal gripes and should have been checked out on the day of launch.. Sorry for my rant.
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What do others think?
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I think this should be posted on the Samsung forums rather than XDA. I am pretty sure nobody here can do anything about it and I am also pretty sure that nobody cares if you don't like your phone.
temperbad said:
Waaaaaaa, I had to work last night and it sucked, When I got home the house was dirty obviously the wife didnt clean... I then proceeded to the bathroom where I stepped in a big turd from my dog, damn. After the turd I went to eat something and found the bread to be stale.. Now all the sudden My car wont start and I dont know whats wrong. On top of that I accidently sharted myself and now Im a Mess.....
Whooo cares, most of those are personal gripes and should have been checked out on the day of launch.. Sorry for my rant.
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I'm glad you felt the need to be a complete jerk in your response. Very smooth and professional.
FYI the rant was partially so others (who may want to get the phone) know what issues and downsides I've personally experienced, and partially to see if anyone has any suggestions on ways to imrpove/fix some of my issues.
If you have nothing smart to say next time, it may be best to just keep it to yourself.
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Waaaaaaa, I had to work last night and it sucked, When I got home the house was dirty obviously the wife didnt clean... I then proceeded to the bathroom where I stepped in a big turd from my dog, damn. After the turd I went to eat something and found the bread to be stale.. Now all the sudden My car wont start and I dont know whats wrong. On top of that I accidently sharted myself and now Im a Mess.....
Whooo cares, most of those are personal gripes and should have been checked out on the day of launch.. Sorry for my rant.
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this posting was worth it allow for this fine joke of yours...nice one do you do stand up?
@temperbad - the reason people on this forum will harass you about your post is mainly this:
xda-developers is just that - a DEVELOPERS forum. Most people who want to complain about devices go to forums for those devices that address general discussion. This forum caters to people who "mod" their devices. While many new-comers do come to this forum and are welcomed - it is appreciated if they stay on topics related to app modification/generation, themeing, developing and modifying ROMS and such.
So, while many do get on here and post about other crap - it is only tolerated by those that seriously want to use these forums for the intended purposes.
Your rant about this device will most likely only be heard by those who own the device out of necessity or desire - AND, by people who are already committed to owning the device. THEY DON'T CARE about hearing someone complain about a device they are already committed to!
So, in the future please make these kinds of posts on forums on which people discuss more general topics or cater to the device "generally" instead of on a forum that is dedicated to DEVELOPMENT and MODIFICATION.
I am not attempting to be harsh - however, hopefully, others will read this and will not post topics that are not related to this forum.
MOST OF THE REALLY GREAT DEVELOPERS ARE RAN OFF from Development forums because of all the off topic comments. We hope that one day this will stop.... But, I am beginning to feel like all hope is lost...
@shaneaus - yes, I understand that, but I did post in the GENERAL section. Also, I understand this is a developer forum. I'm a developer myself and have trolled the forums for a few years, and there are some development solutions to the problems I mentioned (like notifications) etc...
Thanks for the thoughtful response though.
Every phone has it's shortcomings
Return it or whine about it
At this point I would suggest you move on
wait for the froyo update and some of your issues may be resolved.
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Are you people serious? You don't know how a Proximity sensor works on these phones? "Bloatware" as if T-Mobile hid it from you and has SO much of it on this phone? "Photo review, a feature that YOU CAN TURN OFF IN THE CAMERA SETTINGS?!" "PS isn't there an app that will tell me what is using the most battery" - Wow. Just wow. And you call this a "rant"? Maybe you should consult the owners manual before creating threads like this.
You knew or should've known that there is no LED Notification light on this phone. If you're trying to tell me that the battery life is worse on this phone than the G1 you're doing something seriously wrong.
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Are you people serious? You don't know how a Proximity sensor works on these phones? "Bloatware" as if T-Mobile hid it from you and has SO much of it on this phone? "Photo review, a feature that YOU CAN TURN OFF IN THE CAMERA SETTINGS?!" "PS isn't there an app that will tell me what is using the most battery" - Wow. Just wow. And you call this a "rant"? Maybe you should consult the owners manual before creating threads like this.
You knew or should've known that there is no LED Notification light on this phone. If you're trying to tell me that the battery life is worse on this phone than the G1 you're doing something seriously wrong.
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Amen brother!
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Amen brother!
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Yes yes.. So true... I stand by my first post with pride.....
title says it all; its a PITA to reach around through the case to turn the screen on all the time, and, even though the screen is supposed to come on when you push the menu key on the hardware keyboard, it doesnt work that way, at least for me..
Can anyone offer any other suggestions?
I know once I root this, there will be other choices, but, I want to learn more about the device before I root it
thanks so much for your help!
no, since xoom doesnt have soft keys so the only way to turn the screen on its to touch the power button. in other terms if you want to wake the xoom up when screen is off you need to press power button.
hopefully, some one will develop a software fix
for this; I cant be the only person that is annoyed by this..
thanks!
What's so hard about pressing the power button?
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if you have the motorola folio case on it, its a pain reaching through the cut out every few minutes to turn the screen on..
Idk if it works on the xoom but simply lockscreen on the market has a feature that uses the devices proximity sensor to unlock the phone, it might be just what you are looking for. Like I said, not sure about compatibility but the developer is pretty active here on xda and he might be able to figure something out.
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Idk if it works on the xoom but simply lockscreen on the market has a feature that uses the devices proximity sensor to unlock the phone, it might be just what you are looking for. Like I said, not sure about compatibility but the developer is pretty active here on xda and he might be able to figure something out.
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The Xoom does not have a proximity sensor. One developer that frequents the forms and gave us all a screenshot app for the Xoom for free, has an App Killswitch which does the opposite action that you want. When you close the case, the light sensor senses the darkness and turns the screen off. It would take more battery but likewise would be possible to do it the way you wish when opening the cover. Maybe if we ask nicely, he can make it happen
well, I installed nolock, from the market, and it reduces the steps to one to get the screen on; when you push the power button, there is no lock screen to go through, which helps, but I wish there was a way to wake it up with either the keyboard, or just tapping the screen..
I'm sure this will come one of these days..
EDIT: It only works sometimes, not ready for 3.0 I guess....
It is possible but will not work until we have a deodexed ROM. The is a way to remap the volume keys to wake the screen but as soon as the keyguard kicks in the volume keys are disabled. With a deodexed ROM I can disable keyguard. An alterative option I might be able to work out is to wake the screen with a paired keyboard via blurtooth. So far in my testing this is working well.
Basically I have mapped the F1 key on my keyboard to wake/sleep the Xoom.
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that would be fantastic!
I bought the moto keyboard, hoping those features might be baked into it, but they arent.
I could have saved 70 bucks, and just used my apple mini BT keyboard...
Keep us informed, and if you need a tester, I will be glad to help out!
thanks
wase4711 said:
that would be fantastic!
I bought the moto keyboard, hoping those features might be baked into it, but they arent.
I could have saved 70 bucks, and just used my apple mini BT keyboard...
Keep us informed, and if you need a tester, I will be glad to help out!
thanks
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Try to push the below file using adb ... you need root for this to work. After rebooting the right ctrl key on the Motorola keyboard should become a power button for you. Let the screen goto sleep for a few minutes and attempt to wake it using the button. Let me know if this works.
Download:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?hsqqsehpcjr812t
ADB PUSH:
adb remount
adb push Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl \system\usr\keylayout\Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl
adb reboot
Make sure you unplug the USB cable before testing. I think while it is plugged into USB keyguard is disabled.
EDIT:
Getting Back to Default Settings:
Download:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3sxm4n1wh86a7u8
ADB Push:
adb remount
adb push Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl \system\usr\keylayout\Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl
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I appreciate it man, but I haven't rooted the xoom yet..
I want to wait a bit, and learn it better before I do.
Even when I got my evo last june, I waited a few weeks b4 rooting to learn it beter.
thank you for the file!
This has been discussed many times on this forum.
Long story short, I agree with you, especially since I leave the xoom on a table during a meeting. My solution...I downloaded Widgetsoid2.x. Among other widgets, I have a no turn-off widget on my main page. walking into a meeting, i hit it, forcing the xoom to stay on. obviously kills the battery, but i still get two full days.
not pretty, but it works.
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I appreciate it man, but I haven't rooted the xoom yet..
I want to wait a bit, and learn it better before I do.
Even when I got my evo last june, I waited a few weeks b4 rooting to learn it beter.
thank you for the file!
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I guess I figured everyone was like me and rooted on day one. LOL. No problem. Anyone else with a Moto keyboard give that file a shot and let me know. It will only work with the Moto keyboard.
wase4711 said:
its a PITA to reach around through the case to turn the screen on all the time
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?! ... it is?
Never did get why people malign the power-button placement so much. I think it's perfect, myself ....
kcrudup said:
?! ... it is?
Never did get why people malign the power-button placement so much. I think it's perfect, myself ....
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I personally don't like the power button placement myself. It's all personal preference. But that's the benefit of getting and Android platform right? If something doesn't quite fit our preference we can personalize it. I think that's all the OP is asking for.
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I personally don't like the power button placement myself. It's all personal preference. But that's the benefit of getting and Android platform right? If something doesn't quite fit our preference we can personalize it. I think that's all the OP is asking for.
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Ditto. The case I bought till a nice option comes along doesn't have the hole for the power button. That's why I started looking for alternative options.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016594
Posted the how-to in the dev section for Moto/Apple/Generic Bluetooth keyboards for those interested.
What is that you are doing that it is going to sleep? The easiest thing would be not to let it sleep so quick. Set the timeout to 15 minutes or something.
I guess I am still treating this like my EVO, which, doesnt get the best battery life if you leave it on too long..this thing gets awesum battery life, so I think I wll start leaving the screen on longer, until someone comes up with software that will wake it up easily..
Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
Yes i am pretty happy with this phone.. No touch issues for me 10 fingers are registering nicely.but sometimes 2 or 3 times out of 100 knockcodes says wrong but taps are registering i think its my fault that i enter knockcode incorretly.
Right now i m using lg keyboard and no lag at all..
Battery is seems ok to me i m using games skype fb viber intertnet browsing all day and i got 4 hours of screenon time with brightness level 75%.
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By far the best phone I've ever purchased. Very happy with all aspects of the phone. I do no notice any missed touches or incorrect knock codes as long as I'm going at a reasonable speed. Everything works wonderfully. The camera is amazing and I am incredibly impressed with the OS. 100% satisfied here!
Me too. Best phone ever. Camera is amazing too
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No issues for me even snapiest than S6 imo. Perfect phone
Battery routinely gives me 4+ hrs sot. Great camera. Great colorful screen, probably my favorite feature.
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I unlocked bootloader and rooted installed adaway and remove some bloatware
DeadSOL said:
Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
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Absolutely zero issues. Perfect screen, touch is responsive, no heating up, no lag, camera takes gorgeous pictures.
I get occasional lag, but for all I know is it's an app (I'm a techie so I'd like to think all of my apps are legitimate but who knows).
No hardware issues, etc.
I voted "Yes" because I have some issues but those are so minor that I don't really care about them too much... It's a really great phone and I highly recommend it...
Great phone
My first post but I wanted to chime in on this thread. I have read this forum a lot since I am interested in root access. I feel like there is a vocal minority that hates the phone, primarily because of lack of root, and wanted to offer perspective from someone who's mostly a regular user.
I mostly love the phone. I previously had a Galaxy S4, and have had this for 3 weeks. There are many little things that make it overall a great piece of hardware.
- No buttons on the side. I can't tell you how much of a design improvement this. Never accidentally press anything, hold it how you want, put it in any clip-type mount, no issues. It takes about a day to get used to using the back controls and then it's joy.
- Phone feels great in your hand. It's the perfect size, shape and weight, and you can switch the on-screen navigation buttons so "back" is where I was used to it on the S4 (the right side). I never really felt comfortable holding the S4. Would often flip it out of my hand while trying to one-handed operate it.
- Beautiful big screen. The slight curve feels perfect in your pocket.
- The default launcher is actually very nice. Some nice little things like you can shove 7 across on the task bar and it will shrink the icons to fit them; good folders implementation; apps/widgets tabs. It's unintrusive and gets most stuff right.
- The IR blaster actually works.
- Mine is Verizon and annoyingly they disabled some features, but the only thing I really cared about I got back with a shortcuts (native phone number blacklist). And access Lock, vital.
- Shortcut to camera with volume-down button, nice. (And of course the camera is stunning)
- Battery life has been fantastic for me. I've gone two days on a single charge with moderate use. I don't keep the screen incredibly bright, though, this is definitely the biggest power sucker.
- No overheating issues. This was infuriating on the S4, I couldn't run Waze on a summer day without it literally shutting itself down half the time.
- And of course the whole reason I got this instead of an S6 in the first place... removable battery and my 128 gig of storage
I haven't had any touchscreen issues. I did install the OTA update which was pushed to my phone the same day I got it. (I hope I don't come to regret this w.r.t. root...)
So while I wish I could root it, the lack of root access isn't actually making my life miserable in any way. The only reason I rooted the S4 it was because of the lack of SD card write access under Kit Kat, and because Verizon pushed an update that actually broke the S4 causing random reboots which was fixable by removing Knox.
The SD card is not an issue with Lollipop. That said, once I had root access on the S4, of course I installed the Xposed Framework and played with stuff, like adding flashlight to my reboot menu (hey, this is already on the pulldown menu built into my G4!). But there is really nothing I couldn't live without.
So I'd love to be able to root this thing, but here's exactly what I am missing without root compared to the S4:
1. Full ad blocking (I can block over wifi with a proxy, so it's just an issue for cellular data)
2. Greenify that has native access to stop apps.
I have since just started using Greenify as my screen-off button and this is satisfactory (though I still see some apps like Skype that like to just resurrect themselves randomly, not much I can do here). The ad thing is not really that big a deal for me. I don't spend a ton of time reading ad-heavy web sites over cellular data, while I've certainly noticed ads a little more than I used to, it's not making me crazy. There's no dealbreaking functional issue such as I had with the S4 that makes me feel like I will cry if I never get root.
So there you have it, very happy LG G4 user.
I remember reading here on XDA a way to have adblock on cellular. I think you need to create a new APN and add a proxy to that APN I tried this on my s6 and it worked.
donnybright said:
I remember reading here on XDA a way to have adblock on cellular. I think you need to create a new APN and add a proxy to that APN I tried this on my s6 and it worked.
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I did find a description of a method to do this while researching the issue, but I don't think it's possible on this phone. The methods described involved options that were not available. (No proxy config, can't create new cell data profile). I looked for shortcuts that might expose hidden options but couldn't find anything relevant.
Anyone elses g4 mistake a swipe up gesture for a tap when scrolling? Ill be scrolling xda or any other app and i swipe to go farther down and the phone will mistake it for a tap and click on reply or photo or something, pretty annoying but just wondering if anyone elses g4 does this
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I have the H815 verison and besides double tap to wake sometimes needing 3-4 taps to wake up, the phone is flawless (as it should be for what I paid for it lol).
I voted no problem, but I have a small issue with double tap to wake.
It seems that occasionally the phone is locked and at the knock screen even when several Smart Unlock conditions are met (location, connected to bluetooth, etc.). If I double tap, it doesn't wake because it's still locked and expecting a knock code. This double tap wakes the phone, but doesn't always turn on the screen. The second double tap usually unlocks the phone, but occasionally it only wakes to the knock code screen. If I pause for a moment, it'll usually Smart Unlock and all is well.
I seem to have less of a problem with this if High Accuracy Location Mode is on. In GPS only mode this was happening all the time. Hopefully there will be an update to prioritize Bluetooth for Smart Unlock.
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Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
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Using it for a couple days now. Its a great phone. Am patiently waiting for Root then it'd be perfect
Wow. Thanks for the replies, people.
The poll results seem neck-and-neck right now but it's great to know that there are several people with no issues. Software issues can always be fixed so that's an upside.
Interesting how there are people that say they have no issues other than swipes not registering correctly or double tap doesn't work all the time or there is something often lagging....
Those are issues...
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Interesting how there are people that say they have no issues other than swipes not registering correctly or double tap doesn't work all the time or there is something often lagging....
Those are issues...
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It feels like a small software issue.
If you check out the horror stories in this forum, you'll see how people are really giving this phone bad press. Compared to that, a couple of taps not registering for Knock On doesn't seem so bad.
I own an echo, 2 Ghomes and a V20 with Google assistant, and I think there is major room for improvement on both systems. I'm pretty excited to try a new Ai.
Well you'll have a bit of a wait since it won't have voice enabled for a while.
The hate is probably due to Samsung preventing re-mapping of the button to something else and Bixby not being ready for prime time. I believe people like choices and the option to change whatever they want since its their phone.
Because we all know it's going to suck and be useless.
I've always went in with a don't diss it till you try it attitude and I will do the same for Bixby.
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Because we all know it's going to suck and be useless.
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Like all AI is.
"Google Assistant is so great!!!"
No, MKBHD, it isn't.
It's the fact that we're forced to use it. Sure it can probably be disabled, but there's a physical hardware button dedicated to it. If you don't like it, that button is a total waste of space that could server a relevant purpose.
Am I the only person who dosent use Google assistant? What does it do that's so special I have never used it on any of my phones
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Because we all know it's going to suck and be useless.
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I dunno, Samsung has a ton of in home devices they could add Bixby to. I don't really see they having too much difficulty doing what google does, read apps or the first link from a web search.
Native smartthings support and Samsung SmartTVs. If they decide to release a Chromecast/FireTV streaming box. I think they will be late to the game, but have way more in home penetration.
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I've always went in with a don't diss it till you try it attitude and I will do the same for Bixby.
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I'm willing to try it, mainly since there's a physical button dedicated to it. However, like with all of these virtual assistants, I feel rather lukewarm about them all. Never really had a desire to try them, so kinda have to push myself to try Bixby.
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Am I the only person who dosent use Google assistant? What does it do that's so special I have never used it on any of my phones
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Nope. I've never used it either. I get why people like it, but... like you, it never seemed special, so I just never tried it.
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I've always went in with a don't diss it till you try it attitude and I will do the same for Bixby.
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I use it for controlling my Smartlights, my news briefing in the morning, long google searches and sending texts while i'm driving (It will read and reply to text/hangouts in Android auto)
Pretty sure it's the dedicated button to an app that no one it's going to use. They could have made it a power button instead
They hate it because Samsung put a dedicated button for people to use something they sunk a ton of money into, the hate really doesn't make sense. Competition is good and should be encouraged, we should be happy there are so many companies developing assistants for us to use even if some of us don't see their point.
Personally, I don't use Google Assistant or anything else. I don't see the point of talking to my phone when I have perfectly working fingers on my hands (I also don't drive.), but just because I don't use them doesn't mean I have to hate them.
That said, removing the ability to remap the button using an accessibility service was a **** move.
I would love to remap the stupid bixby button to a camera shutter function. And I dont mean launch the camera when pressed, I want the phone to take a picture when its pressed even if the screen is off. That would be an amazing rooted mod.
Yeah, that's what I want... A bunch of pictures of the inside of my pocket every time I accidentally hit that button. (That was sarcasm)
No thanks. I would hate that feature.
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I would love to remap the stupid bixby button to a camera shutter function. And I dont mean launch the camera when pressed, I want the phone to take a picture when its pressed even if the screen is off. That would be an amazing rooted mod.
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Honestly I prefer the on screen shutter button. I've tried settings the volume buttons to take a picture but I always find it more stable to use the on screen buttons because it doesn't involve me pushing the phone.
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Pretty sure it's the dedicated button to an app that no one it's going to use. They could have made it a power button instead
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There already is a power button
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There already is a power button
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It wouldn't let me edit my post when I posted this, but I meant to say home button.
i dont use voice assistants. Makes me look retarded in public..
Havent use it so cant say if it sucks or not. But i do believe it will be more integrated then google. Its has translate and online image search built into the camera. Which is a good thing, i normally have to switch to the apps for these.
So ill have to see how it all goes and what it is like because i can knock it or not.
Same goes for the swipe up app screen (i know you can turn if off but ill try it for a while and see)
Does the Essential Phone have the necessary hardware to support this? If so, has anyone ported this function from another phone to the Ph-1? Thanks.
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Does the Essential Phone have the necessary hardware to support this? If so, has anyone ported this function from another phone to the Ph-1? Thanks.
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Its a kernel feature and it kills the battery
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Its a kernel feature and it kills the battery
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Does that mean it's only possible with a custom Rom?
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Does that mean it's only possible with a custom Rom?
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It's possible but the screen must stay on and cant be put to sleep.
This means it drains battery.
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It's possible but the screen must stay on and cant be put to sleep.
This means it drains battery.
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How does other LCD screen phone do it then? The OnePlus 1 had it, and it also had a LCD screen. I don't think it was always on.
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How does other LCD screen phone do it then? The OnePlus 1 had it, and it also had a LCD screen. I don't think it was always on.
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I think it's a combination of low power states enabled for the CPU & digitizer, and a kernel level wakelock. Essential's firmware probably doesn't have that included.
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I think it's a combination of low power states enabled for the CPU & digitizer, and a kernel level wakelock. Essential's firmware probably doesn't have that included.
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It's actually enabled by having the screen and its touch layer on a separate power rail to allow one to be powered on without sending power to another, this allows it to use very little power and work on some phones but use a considerable amount on others (like the PH-1)
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It's actually enabled by having the screen and its touch layer on a separate power rail to allow one to be powered on without sending power to another, this allows it to use very little power and work on some phones but use a considerable amount on others (like the PH-1)
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Ok, thanks for the info. I'm guessing the PH-1 doesn't have separate power for the screen and touch layer, thus the high power consumption if we use tap to wake.
I guess a follow up question is does anyone make a battery case for the PH-1? I guess I would be ok with the power consumption if I can get a battery case with 5500mah, that should allow the phone to last a full day even with tap to wake.
Essential have "lift to check phone" menu, maybe for replace doble tap to wake menu ?
I guess if this menu is enabled will make more battery drain.
IMHO
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This thread is full of total BS. AoD has worked onall customm ROMs I've used on l lcd since 2012.
Who is talking about AOD? That works fine if it is included in the source.. i missed that part..
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Essential have "lift to check phone" menu, maybe for replace doble tap to wake menu ?
I guess if this menu is enabled will make more battery drain.
IMHO
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This is actually the ONLY way double tap to wake works...
If you wake the phone into doze mode... With lift to wake... You can then double tap the screen to wake it up...
So I hypothesize that if you were to use one of the AoD hacks... If they even work on this device... You could probably have double tap to wake
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This thread is full of total BS. AoD has worked onall customm ROMs I've used on l lcd since 2012.
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There's a way to do things and then there's a hacked together way to do things. You can make a lot of crap work, doesn't mean it works the best way.
I specifically asked @flar2 about this. Its totally possible if enabled in the kernel, but kills battery. Thats all.
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This thread is full of total BS. AoD has worked onall customm ROMs I've used on l lcd since 2012.
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No kidding... I get sick of idiotic apologists making up reasons for no tap to wake without real proven facts. First they come up with BS like "it uses too much power" waah waah! Then they come up with BS aboout how the hardware doesn't support it.
I don't have a PH-1 screen assembly, but just because there is one ribbon cable connecting it to the phone, doesn't mean that the screen and digitizer use the same power rail. Plenty of phones use tap to wake without any appreciable battery drain.
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No kidding... I get sick of idiotic apologists making up reasons for no tap to wake without real proven facts. First they come up with BS like "it uses too much power" waah waah! Then they come up with BS aboout how the hardware doesn't support it.
I don't have a PH-1 screen assembly, but just because there is one ribbon cable connecting it to the phone, doesn't mean that the screen and digitizer use the same power rail. Plenty of phones use tap to wake without any appreciable battery drain.
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Flar is one of the greats. I used to be fullofhell. I proposed the very thing .. heres what he said
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Flar is one of the greats. I used to be fullofhell. I proposed the very thing .. heres what he said
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To quote a movie...
It's not an excuse not to have the feature available. I'm a big boy, I can decide how I want to drain my battery. Don't need anyone making choices for me.
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To quote a movie...
It's not an excuse not to have the feature available. I'm a big boy, I can decide how I want to drain my battery. Don't need anyone making choices for me.
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Haha nice quote, great film. Then i would say go for it, i would use uber toolchain to compile a kernel with the DT2W.
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To quote a movie...
It's not an excuse not to have the feature available. I'm a big boy, I can decide how I want to drain my battery. Don't need anyone making choices for me.
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Well then what's keeping you from doing it? Big boy?
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No kidding... I get sick of idiotic apologists making up reasons for no tap to wake without real proven facts. First they come up with BS like "it uses too much power" waah waah! Then they come up with BS aboout how the hardware doesn't support it.
I don't have a PH-1 screen assembly, but just because there is one ribbon cable connecting it to the phone, doesn't mean that the screen and digitizer use the same power rail. Plenty of phones use tap to wake without any appreciable battery drain.
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I don't think the amount of cables has anything to do with the power distribution for the screen. You want DT2W? Make it happen.
Edit: also nobody said it wasn't possible, this thread wasn't full of BS until people came in spouting nonsense about how someone else supposedly said it "doesn't support it" acting as if that's the reason it hasn't been done yet on this device.