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Phone calls and emails go unanswered.....
are you guys for real, or what???
and do you actually have any in stock?
Scary stuff, it's gone 3am here, and i'm doing a night time feed of my new baby (5 days old), and e-mailing while i'm up... it's actually taking me about 3 writes of each message before they make sense.... scary!
I think I need to get some sleep ;-)
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PS When you place your order, I recommend EMS delivery - it may be a little slower, but you are less likely to incur customs charges (which are added as a matter of course by the likes of UPS)
great, thanks, again, modaco... BTW: Good luck with the little one
Now I tried to order it and the code did not give me the discount. I tried to call and the number on thier site is allways busy. Also web paged liked by your post does not have any info on the deal and the banner add with the code is now gone? Whats up?
Now they are saying the deal was only good until 12:00. pretty big piece of info I missed or was not told. I can't say for sure it wasn't on the linked modaco website because it is no longer up, but I know I did not see it.
I second that! They have been great.
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This community is so damn innovative and cooperative, it amazes me what software/ROMS get cooked here which really add a lot of productivity value to me, transforming a tedious, hard-to-read Windows Mobile User Interface into a tool that really works on the go. And I've been equally impressed by the collaborative spirit of this community in problem solving and feature tweeks.
Thus I am curious if there is an organized policy here that helps us end-users deter the scammers who grab software from XDA-developers, bundle it, and sell it across the web. I'm speaking of a prominent spot on the home page and within the information design of these forums that, just like the "Missing Kids" alerts on milk cartons, highlights prominently the latest scammers stealing work here.
I understand this forum is for actual development, but truth is this issue gets lost in "General" forums. Because it's the people who hack here who are the people being hurt directly.
Though I signed onto XDA over a year ago, and have read volumes re my T-mobile MDA and software upgrades here, I ended up being nonetheless too nervous to follow the very clear instructions posted last year with all if the various WM 6 roms developed here. And I never did upgrade.
But I have a WING now, and I wanted an iphone theme and user interface. Again I read all the sticky threads for the Herald, as well as the links from the wiki for that specific phone. After several days of trying to figure out "should I be first flashing my T-mobile ROM to a more efficient one, before then seeking to install one of the iphone themes and apps like A_C's S2U2 etc. I then did a dumb consumer thing: when searching this site using Google, I followed the links to one or two of the GOOGLE AD-WORDS hawking an iPhone theme on your PocketPC.
Long story short, I got scammed of $10 for something that was outdated and didn't even install properly on my WING... But I'd been "comforted" by the presentation on their website, http://iphonethemeforpocketpc.com , thinking I would get my head cleared of the confusion that mounts when I'd dig down deep into the many discussions of so many ROMs & themes & apps here. I got burned, that was bad enough. But it then pissed me off doubly that superior software would be found here at XDA -- and more than likely some of that guy's component cab files were simply stolen from developers right here.
I ended up back here and successfully installed the ifonz theme, A_C's S2U2 (the scam site had an old slide2unlock version... bit as everyone here knows, A_C's app is superb. I also installed Contact Manager (amazing!), PCM keyboard (what an improvement over windows), and MortPlayer (fantastic). I intend to donate to each program author.
But the purpose of this post is this: I filed a dispute with PayPal (requires login) over this scammer's non-working product and absolute refusal to even reply to my early "friendly" emails seeking install help. Went through PayPal's Resolution Center "escalation process" -- after no reply from the seller to PayPal -- and my dispute became a CLAIM for Paypal to determine outcome. PayPal's reply, denying the claim, states that they reviewed all communications and investigated the issue fully (totally not true).
I could have stopped there -- afterall i'd long ago expended way more than $10 worth of my time -- but it was for the principle of it. So I called PayPal, went through all the menu-options, screenings, and hold queues, and finally spoke to an actual Resolution Agent -- who was very nice, & actually very helpful.
However: I learned then, from her, what many of you may already know -- but I wonder DOES everyone know?, because I sure didn't... She told me that anything digital or downloadable is not even covered with any Buyer Protection as disclosed in PayPal's terms of service. So the claim got closed automatically because it didn't qualify for any dispute resolution. I was really surprised by this, that no downloadable software is subject to dispute/resolution policies -- and that's why I am writing this thread, as a service (I *hope*) to all you developers.
I first did a search here on the boards for "scams", because I wanted to find a place on this site to DISPLAY CLEARLY---> Here is a scamsite --> make sure your stuff is not being sold there. That's when I saw this sampling of threads, below, and had to wonder, is there a policy here that is clear and easy to find (NO! not that I can see!) that helps developers here by giving us end-users a place to post the hit-list of scammers on ebay, on iphonetheme websites, etc. ?
If so, I missed it in the information design here. If not, I recommend it. I know it burns you guys who are being ripped off -- but it also ticks off less-sophisticated community members like me (end-users of your hard work) to see your works exploited -- given especially their innovation and performance tweeks.
Here are just a few of the threads I found from this year, from March 08, where people reported being ripped off by people selling their works. In my view, I don't think that's enough or sufficient to just have someone start a thread saying "beware of X, Y or Z". And that's why I posted this. Thanks to all of you who make the lives of end-users more productive with your great work.
q/s
Name And Shame Ebayer Stealing Xdev Material
Bastards selling my Unlocker
Thief On The Loose At Hofo and possibly xda!
wow.. no reply. well i know i'm verbose, but i thought this would at least get a reply that explained yes/no if the site has designated a specific area to broadcast who are the current scammers operating out on he internets...
Should I be posting this into a different forum? if so, which one please/ thanks
As far as I know, there is no area warning about potential scams. There have been issues with people selling cooked roms on ebay that i'm aware of, but that normally comes up in model-specific forums.
it definitely could be helpful to have such an area on the forum, but at the same time, there have been many stickies informing people NOT to go out and sell other peoples work, and advising people against using warez and cracked programs.
Most people that have come to this forum realize there is no reason to pay for most software, as there's probably an excellent free or open source alternative. if there's not yet, someone's working on one. this forum is a mix of entusiasts, programmers, hackers, and people who just love to tweak their devices. once you come here and see the vast amounts of information, there's really no need to go anywhere else. i check the xda forums rather regularly, and pocketpcfreeware every now and again.
i don't think a scams section on the forum would help keep from people getting scammed elsewhere... they usually find this site after they've already been scammed. many of us have already taken it into our own hands, by trying to point as many people as we can here, so they can learn the beauty of free, well maintained software and roms made by people who just want to help others enjoy their devices more and more.
scammers are more like a disease... and prevention is the best medicine.
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As far as I know, there is no area warning about potential scams. There have been issues with people selling cooked roms on ebay that i'm aware of, but that normally comes up in model-specific forums.
it definitely could be helpful to have such an area on the forum, but at the same time, there have been many stickies informing people NOT to go out and sell other peoples work, and advising people against using warez and cracked programs.
Most people that have come to this forum realize there is no reason to pay for most software, as there's probably an excellent free or open source alternative. if there's not yet, someone's working on one. this forum is a mix of entusiasts, programmers, hackers, and people who just love to tweak their devices. once you come here and see the vast amounts of information, there's really no need to go anywhere else. i check the xda forums rather regularly, and pocketpcfreeware every now and again.
i don't think a scams section on the forum would help keep from people getting scammed elsewhere... they usually find this site after they've already been scammed. many of us have already taken it into our own hands, by trying to point as many people as we can here, so they can learn the beauty of free, well maintained software and roms made by people who just want to help others enjoy their devices more and more.
scammers are more like a disease... and prevention is the best medicine.
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There have been instances where its come to the attention of the community here and the developers of ROMS and programs that their work is being packaged and sold on ebay and the like. Obviously this behavior is viewed very negatively. While there is no policy or "organized" efforts to monitor and react, when someone does point out an instance, the community members rally around and do what they can to call the guy out, and warn potential scammees of it. Ebay is often notified directly, and also comments on the sellers postings on ebay are made to warn.
And yes, your post is verbose
There is a possibility that a member in xda "Semur" will try to contact you. Here is his -fake- facebook account: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002462824795 .
Here is what he sent me
"Originally Posted by Semur:
hello, i am new to this forum, and i see that you have been the member of this forum for a long time. Here we have an online store selling some electronic products, and we are having a review activity, if you can help us to make a post about our products and let the members here kbow the link, then we will give you an Android-related product in our store for free. If you are interested in this, please feel free to let me know. thanks"
The store is: http://www.dinodirect.com and is the most terrible store on the internet....
I just informed you. They are scammers. You can see reviews of this store all over the internet! You can lose your money and they will never send you the product....
P.S: Their products are awefull...
P.S2: You can check some users reviews here.
Have a nice day,
Kyrillos
thank you for sharing this information...many members may benefit from this
Thanks kryillos, and I bet that the website wouldn't even give you a free device.
Shame. I would've so wanted that useful phone holder (which is a box where you can lay your phone) for 18 dollars
I once bought a thing from them via their ebay store and they delivered.
It was like 6 months back i guess. Dunno exactly.
Sad to hear they have turned scammers now.
well, i am also sad to hear this. But i did have many purchases from Dinodirect, and there were no problems on all my orders. Products are good and delivery is fast. Maybe they want to let more people know them here, so they want to find some members for marketing.But whether it is good or not, you can have a try for yourself.
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well, i am also sad to hear this. But i did have many purchases from Dinodirect, and there were no problems on all my orders. Products are good and delivery is fast. Maybe they want to let more people know them here, so they want to find some members for marketing.But whether it is good or not, you can have a try for yourself.
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you can barely be trusted as you joined this month and this is your first post!
This was just a warning from fellow dev kyrillos to warn us and save our card numbers.
thanks for info
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offerany said:
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*sighs*
removed.
Thanx kyrillos!
I just searched Semur's profile. He made 5 posts(total post count) in 4 different forums in xda
GSM Unlocked Motorola XOOM 32GB, $450 On Ebay’s One Day Deals - http://goo.gl/MFZTX #android
This one is new not refurbished!
EBay link: http://bit.ly/wiNhPO
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Edit out the ebay link. You're gonna get scorned. Rules don't allow external links.
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Edit out the ebay link. You're gonna get scorned. Rules don't allow external links.
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I dont think that rule applies here when we are just giving link to a deal and not selling our own item
tigerfire25 said:
I dont think that rule applies here when we are just giving link to a deal and not selling our own item
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I think this explains it all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=476
Rule #2
The MP is for use by private parties only, do not post commercial links (SPAM) or links to private sales taking place on other sites ie: eBay, Craigsist, etc. The MP is intended for the sale of your personal phones and/or accessories. It is not intended as a sales platform for operating a business.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: No Business links allowed. No off-site sales allowed. Personal use only
so if its not yours (which it isnt) and its obviously an ebay link ("or links to private sales taking place on other sites ie: eBay") dont post it.
Jonnyshatter said:
I think this explains it all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=476
Rule #2
The MP is for use by private parties only, do not post commercial links (SPAM) or links to private sales taking place on other sites ie: eBay, Craigsist, etc. The MP is intended for the sale of your personal phones and/or accessories. It is not intended as a sales platform for operating a business.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: No Business links allowed. No off-site sales allowed. Personal use only
so if its not yours (which it isnt) and its obviously an ebay link ("or links to private sales taking place on other sites ie: eBay") dont post it.
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To be honest, I think this is ok. It's not someone's personal ebay auction. it's a daily deals type thing, so it's probably ok
the_scotsman said:
To be honest, I think this is ok. It's not someone's personal ebay auction. it's a daily deals type thing, so it's probably ok
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Agreed. No one would be giving out killer deals on their own personal items. If it's a deal, it's probably going to be from a business. Almost all links in this section link to external sites.
The rules disagree about it because I guess the "member-found deals" section was added only after the rules were written.
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Agreed. No one would be giving out killer deals on their own personal items. If it's a deal, it's probably going to be from a business. Almost all links in this section link to external sites.
The rules disagree about it because I guess the "member-found deals" section was added only after the rules were written.
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Fair enough... *exits with tail between legs*
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Announcement was written on 5th October. The first thread on Member-Found Deals is from 7th October.
It looks like we've got a new OnePlus marketing machine on our hands which will employ an invite only strategy, at least for the pre-sale. This is my link and using it will push me forward in the pre-sale queue when but I'm not buying the device just yet. I want to see some real experiences first. Anyhow, feel free to drop your Nothing referral links in here.
For all clarity: any commercial transactions are forbidden on this forum!
Hello, here is my link for bumping me on the list link. This is trully the same marketing as it was for first phone Oneplus. Been using OP2 for 6 yesra and currently on OP5 for another 6 years. Hope that this one will last at least 6 years. Looking forward to it. Have a nice day, Simon
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