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So, basicly, I wanted to try all available ROMs for Buzz and write a short/long review about it and give it a rating 1-5 stars. That should prevent lots of questions and should be helpful to newbies. What do you think? Write a comment/PM me.
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smokzye said:
So, basicly, I wanted to try all available ROMs for Buzz and write a short/long review about it and give it a rating 1-5 stars. That should prevent lots of questions and should be helpful to newbies. What do you think? Write a comment/PM me.
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If you ask me, I would suggest everyone not to compare and rate different roms. It is not like one rom is better than the other. Roms will be according to the needs. Some roms aim at performance tweaks while some aim at display effects. And there will be some people who cannot live without sense widgets. Sense roms will be the option for them. So I think comparisons cannot be made.
And I think that number of topics (by newbies asking what is the best rom) on roms will outreach the number of roms. But if you start something like this what happens is there will be differences in opinions. Some may give worst opinions just after using it for few hours [ LOL, they don't even think about the time taken to develop a rom]. Because users will get pissed off even when everything is fine but just little bugs in the couple of features they need. I think there will be people who shift roms because of little things like dialer app etc. So basically the standard will be missing because everyone likes a rom which satisfies his needs ( and obviously everyone's needs will not be the same ).
But I think you can give feedback to xda in general section about controlling spam.
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Yeah, I wanted to review it by stock settings, just for people to see what do they get by flashing it and to see if it has potential of fulfilling their needs. Means no modding or installing additional apps by me during/before the review. I think it's easyer to read an article about a ROM and to see some *in use* screenshots than self flashing every ROM (pain in the a**).
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... there will be people who shift roms because of little things like dialer app etc...
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Agree 100%, except for this observation: an dialer, on a phone, is not just one little thing!
Well, I dont want to be a troll, it doesn't matter at all, your opinions are correct.
If you dont know how to start, or what rom to try at first, start reading! There is a list of rom topics on dev section, topic "the complete wildfire index". Try to enter each rom topic, see when was the last rom update, see the principal features of the rom, and read some feedback from users, searching for bugs.
I like to use the numbers of comment pages on the topic as reference of how many users have that rom, also, but pay atention on the age of the topic and, of course, if a lot of that replies are not bug related.
Again the choice of a rom is very personal, but this are parameters that I used to start tests.
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Agree 100%, except for this observation: an dialer, on a phone, is not just one little thing!
Well, I dont want to be a troll, it doesn't matter at all, your opinions are correct.
If you dont know how to start, or what rom to try at first, start reading! There is a list of rom topics on dev section, topic "the complete wildfire index". Try to enter each rom topic, see when was the last rom update, see the principal features of the rom, and read some feedback from users, searching for bugs.
I like to use the numbers of comment pages on the topic as reference of how many users have that rom, also, but pay atention on the age of the topic and, of course, if a lot of that replies are not bug related.
Again the choice of a rom is very personal, but this are parameters that I used to start tests.
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yeah, sure, i dont have problems with choosing roms, i read, but, majority of people just post a thread asking which rom to choose.. thats where reviews come in, u know, every dev will talk best about his rom and etc, but this is "for users, by users"
and like bharat said its controlling spam
its not a bad idea. i have tried every rom for wildfire and i have to say that the cm7 nightlies is the most stable 2.3.4 for wildfire. enough said
Keep the thread alive and up guys.
Here are some very nice suggestion!
Hello community.
As you all know and see there two different thread
Original Android Development
Android Development
In this two thread you can find different ROMs.
Therefore it is in some cases difficult to distinguish in which thread a ROM have to be. Some DEVs (@ the Android Development) think they are at the wrong place but the Mods doesnt want to move their thread.
Please make here you choice if you want the old subdivision (only Android Development) oder if you like the new one (Original Android Development and Android Development).
It would be nice if you can leave here your reasons for your choice..
Uh quite nice!?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16205643&postcount=186
https://twitter.com/#!/VillainROM/status/98306513713635328
I quote it in case of be deleted, VillainROM Tweet 2 Aug. 10.17 am:
@VillainROM
VillainROM
LMFAO mate @Fysi. Can you vote for the 2 forum system at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1198080 ^P
What are the interests of Villain Team, to keep forums separated?
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16295037&postcount=27
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
Nice idea but i dont think that radios should have an extra thread. They can sty with kernels.
What do you mean with
roms(org/non)
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org/non = original/non Samsung or original/non AD?
veyka said:
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
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+1
It is nice not seeing a 'new' rom being posted every two minutes where the only difference is the theme.
Perhaps the section titles could be a little bit clearer, For example: Android Development, and the other section called Themed Roms?
Id like to see even more splitting for ROM+Kernel and Kernel only releases, Its really a PIA sometimes to sort the threads out when your looking for something and it kinda scares off the newbie with a ton load of information and choices presented to him when his just looking for something specific.
Id say have a separate release for ROM+Kernel in 1 subforum and another for kernel only.
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Its another way to increase post count
veyka said:
More splitting imo.
Kernels/roms(org/non)/radios/apps/themes
And a stricter policy on tagging threads in the tittle, eg [ROM][KERNEL] etc
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I think that tagging is very important, I prefer only one section, but with very stricted thread's TAGGING...
And I think that is very important explain the non-cosmetic changes in every ROM.
Regards!
Exactly, strict tagging, good references as to where the rom was based on, and credits where needed.
One thread.
only one Android Development
One forum for development, one for roms and stuff. I have no interest in reading about the majority of the problems people have in installing a ROM, but would be interested in seeing the technical threads (if we still have technical threads here...)
Merge the Development forums again and require [ROM] and a date in the subject.
Require all [ROM]'s built from another 'original' rom's sources to have [DERIVATIVE] or something like to identify them with a link to the source rom in the thread.
Pull [KERNAL]'s out to a second forum, again require a date.
Create a 'Technical' forum and move all the discussion, speculation and stickies that clutter up the other ROM forums into here.
Create new forum for non-android development (like Backtrack or potential Linux releases).
I would suggest using [KERNEL] instead
godutch said:
i would suggest using [kernel] instead
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Even if they decided to split they shouldn't be partial. Why is villain and darky rom in original development? They both look similar to stock to me with some mods.
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Personally, I like the idea of having a forum specifically for new ROMs. I can see the benefit of keeping modifications to ROMs in one forum and the real thing in another.
kirdroid said:
Even if they decided to split they shouldn't be partial. Why is villain and darky rom in original development? They both look similar to stock to me with some mods.
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Not stock kernel for starters on VR and that's the core of it .
jje
I like the idea of keeping photoshop roms separate from true developer roms like CM7.
Seriously, everyone who can use winzip and photoshop can make a rom and publish here, and from the looks of it, they do. It it were up to me, I'd actually not open a separate board, I'd delete them all.
As the creation of two separate dev boards was not motivated by any intention to make the forum easier for the user I'd have to say merge them back please. Seeing how it was motivated by greed and favoritism, indicated by the ROMs placement on one board or the other, I'd say screw this nazi maneuver, get your head out of your asses and realize you're all just tweakers and the ONLY REAL DEVELOPER IS SAMSUNG AND THE CM7 TEAM. So as the two forums are, only stock ROM and CM7 should be in the "real" dev forum. The rest of you take OTHERS work and tweak it (yes make it better etc etc, and we are all grateful for that). But come on you're not some super genius hacker dev here (and YES I appreciate your work and have donated but you are not "original developers"). As stated above this is about a "good ole' boys club", nothing else. Pathetic.
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As the creation of two separate dev boards was not motivated by any intention to make the forum easier for the user I'd have to say merge them back please. Seeing how it was motivated by greed and favoritism, indicated by the ROMs placement on one board or the other, I'd say screw this nazi maneuver, get your head out of your asses and realize you're all just tweakers and the ONLY REAL DEVELOPER IS SAMSUNG AND THE CM7 TEAM. So as the two forums are, only stock ROM and CM7 should be in the "real" dev forum. The rest of you take OTHERS work and tweak it (yes make it better etc etc, and we are all grateful for that). But come on you're not some super genius hacker dev here (and YES I appreciate your work and have donated but you are not "original developers"). As stated above this is about a "good ole' boys club", nothing else. Pathetic.
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+1 nothing to add
+1... So many stock Samsung roms are still in original development forum. All this is nothing but favoritism.
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Hi.....
As you see,the forum for this phone going to die.....
I'm very sad cause i decide to buy this phone ,,,,i have also an lg p500 and at its forum is very good you can find anything you want,people are trying to help you with their replies,and so much people who developes roms ......
I buy u8800 pro and jumped at this forum and see that ,,,,no help, no developing,,no developers,,4 kinds of u8800 and i can't believe that we dont have developers working anymore......
Please ,european developers do something ,,,,,,genocolar leave us and i think that making roms only for china......now nobody developes anything.......
Can someone work for u8800 pro please????
I buy pro version cause its better and i saw that all the good work is for u8800 only.....now the developers abandoned us and owners of u8800 pro ask one each other to find a solution about their problems,but nothing anymore ......
I'm really really sad about the situation here....better not buying pro but the normal one,,i dont now
Sorry if i offended anyone and for my english,but i see no future here....
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Yes, sadly I agree with you. I have a U8800-51 and no support what so ever. That is why I'm going to buy another phone that I know has alot of support. That being said... I can not blame the dev's for not wanting to work on this phone at all. It's not as easy as just changing and swapping a few lib files to make things work. It takes a lot of work... unpaid work and time out of there busy family life to sort through things and find solutions to the problems especially when as you even stated so many different U8800 and they are all different and to my knowledge no source code to work with. So when an unpaid dev doesn't find the fun in one project anymore they move on to something 'they' like. Yes it sucks for us but we are at the mercy of the devs. I thank them for trying and for doing what they have already accomplished. As the dev's are moving on... so am I.
Of course we thank them for their work and respect them....all i said is, that at this forum you can see that mess.....
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Yes, huawei have made a bit of a mess with this phone by releasing a ton of different versions which makes dev work difficult, but it is still a good budget phone and very capable.
*Don't winge about it, do something about it. Help keep the wiki up to date so it is easy to find things. This can be done by anyone. Report messy or misplaced threads to original ganjaman, he is the admin for this forum, he can keep it in line. Also if Geno is only updating on chinese forums now, ask if you can update his progress here for him.
*Learn to develop. There are plenty of dev's who will offer help if you ask. I knew nothing about how android worked a few months ago, now I have made a custom kernel and rom for the u8150 and am looking at how things work on the u8800. It is not easy, but it is possible.
*Dont just look at this forum and assume nothing is happening because roms have not had an update in a week. If you follow the devs on google plus/ facebook/ twitter/etc, you will see there is a lot going on. Also one look on github confirms there is a lot of kernel dev stuff happening still especially around the .35 kernel.
*Give it time, it takes a long time to develop and port roms, it doesn't happen overnight.
*Thank your devs for their time and work. If they feel appreciated, they will continue work. If everyone just pisses and moans, they won't.
i have just read a similar post on androidworld.it
i have a LG P500 and a Huawei U8800PRO, i made 2 custom roms for the P500 (iridium and blackbird) and actually i am waiting for a few mb of u8800pro sources from genokolar. i hope he will upload them on his github so i will be able to start building an AOSP 2.3.7 rom for u8800pro
this forum won't die....the u8800pro has just been released in countries like Italy, and many people bought it. I hope that among those people there will be someone with enough skills to develop.
PaulMilbank said:
Yes, huawei have made a bit of a mess with this phone by releasing a ton of different versions which makes dev work difficult, but it is still a good budget phone and very capable.
*Don't winge about it, do something about it. Help keep the wiki up to date so it is easy to find things. This can be done by anyone. Report messy or misplaced threads to original ganjaman, he is the admin for this forum, he can keep it in line. Also if Geno is only updating on chinese forums now, ask if you can update his progress here for him.
*Learn to develop. There are plenty of dev's who will offer help if you ask. I knew nothing about how android worked a few months ago, now I have made a custom kernel and rom for the u8150 and am looking at how things work on the u8800. It is not easy, but it is possible.
*Dont just look at this forum and assume nothing is happening because roms have not had an update in a week. If you follow the devs on google plus/ facebook/ twitter/etc, you will see there is a lot going on. Also one look on github confirms there is a lot of kernel dev stuff happening still especially around the .35 kernel.
*Give it time, it takes a long time to develop and port roms, it doesn't happen overnight.
*Thank your devs for their time and work. If they feel appreciated, they will continue work. If everyone just pisses and moans, they won't.
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Well done,,now i have two replies,,when i ask something about the phone,,no replies at all ,,,that' s good. ...
Karagiozako......
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matteof93 said:
i have just read a similar post on androidworld.it
i have a LG P500 and a Huawei U8800PRO, i made 2 custom roms for the P500 (iridium and blackbird) and actually i am waiting for a few mb of u8800pro sources from genokolar. i hope he will upload them on his github so i will be able to start building an AOSP 2.3.7 rom for u8800pro
this forum won't die....the u8800pro has just been released in countries like Italy, and many people bought it. I hope that among those people there will be someone with enough skills to develop.
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Matteo, i know you and your work with lg p500 cause i'm a proud owner of lg p500 phone and i got it till now,,,i use cosmicXperia v3.5 ......
I have u8800 pro for 6 days only and after some reading about gingerbread update and functionality, i decided to root mine without updated to 2.3 and now i use it like that .....
Stock rom ....froyo 2.2.2
Recovery v5.0.2.7
O/C kernel from genocolar (.32)
I create init.d folder in system/etc and put inside loopysmoothness tweaks,,some other knzo's tweaks ,98 kickasskernel and z89uncapfps,,
Also i edit build.prop with some knzo's scripts and more...
Also i make 4 themes in the kitchen with circular battery icons,transparent status bar,etc.... and i'm trying now to change framework but no success with ninjamorph which i tried till now.......
I'm very happy with functionality till know and the gameplay with pes 2012 and modern compat black pegasus is perfect.....
My benchmarks scores with O/C 245/1613 smartass v2 ,,io bfq, are....
Neocore ..55.5 - 55.6 fps
Quadrant advanced...2850 - 3025
Antutu (without sd card)...3440 - 3550
I'm glad till now but i don't see future .......
Hope now that you are here ,that we'll see some light in the tunnel...
(Kargiola nicolouli)
Thanks for reading my post matteo and i allready see that you post two usefull threads till now......
Congrats......
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Well done,,now i have two replies,,when i ask something about the phone,,no replies at all ,,,that' s good. ...
Karagiozako......
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What did you want to know?
gkalenis said:
Well done,,now i have two replies,,when i ask something about the phone,,no replies at all ,,,that' s good. ...
Karagiozako......
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gkalenis said:
Hope now that you are here ,that we'll see some light in the tunnel...
(Kargiola nicolouli)
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Hahaha to xperia neo v h to galaxy s eprepe na pareis file kai gw malakia ekana p viastika.
You should have bought samsung galaxy s or xperia neo v Calm Down
It would be great if someone could split the Development Forum by models! It's getting impossible to use the Development section because there's 4 models in the same place, it's just hard to find what we want! What's the problem of splitting that? Some mod said that he didn't have the permission to do that but if a mod don't, who does? :s
I just don't understand what's so hard about it, since it's every user's wish!
If i now that the pro model wouldn't have the supporting of the devs probably i wouldn't by it to!
I feel you gkalenis but now it's too late! A week ago i played with the idea to sell the pro and go for the galaxy s but finally i stay with the pro with or without the customs roms!
Tapawhat
I think brand new MIUI .35 port is awakening the development. Also I guess devs can port to all 8800s if they have sources...
i agree with users who say that this forum should be divided into categories (u8800pro and u8800) but if you need a forum where everything is simple and clear (only because it was created a month ago) go here (it is only about the u8800pro).
about developers: as i said i am waiting for geno's sources....if you will help me building gb 2.3.7 maybe we will have a good AOSP rom
PS: please do not compare this device with P500, LG O1 got an incredible support from devs like paolom70, andy572, franciscofranco, fserve, ciaox and many others who have done a precious work, better then LG's engineers.
For those asking about the forum split. This is a ongoing issue that keeps being raised. I agree with you, they should be split. I even asked about it in the mod forum. The response i got was that users of that forum require going through the correct channels. This evolves posting in the requests forum here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
I hope you have all read the read before posting sticky in the development thread. Because all of this info is in there.
Now, all vote for the split. I hope it happens, it will make my job a Lot easier.
I hope this helps
Your friendly moderator
To the OP, sorry, didn't mean to jump down your throat. I know it can be annoying to have a problem with a phone which nobody online can help solve.
At last we have a separate section for u8800 pro
Congratulations
That's good
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Wohoo! Very great news.
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Result, thanks mod's
Where is u8800 pro section???
I hope you check that there are some other threads which still staying in u8800 section and you try to fix this.......
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Where is u8800 pro section???
I hope you check that there are some other threads which still staying in u8800 section and you try to fix this.......
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Here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1466
I am really happy this split has happened. I hope it draws a end to the problems. Thanks for all who followed my instructions and voted!
I will move some of the pro dev posts tomorrow. If you need any moving, let me know, dont start double posting.
Peace!
I am new to the SGS3, and I still trying to find the best ROM that suits me, and there are many many ROMs for the SGS3, so instead of getting lost with all those ROMs I started creating a spreadsheet that compares all the features of ROMs.
But before going ahead in my project, I wanted to know if anybody else did this before.
I know it is a hard job to maintain, but at least it can give us a quick look of main features, and mainly to quickly filter ROMs that support a specific feature.
Take a look on what I made till now, just 4 ROMs at the moment, but later more can be added.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asy0eXCnfqpJdGQtVkRlVVRnVklNbDNMV0xuX2dualE
Update: Feb 1, 2013
This thread has been abandoned, I started it because I wanted to compare all ROMs out there to find the best one that meets my needs, but I ended up doing my own ROM putting in what I need, so I will no longer continue updating the already old spreadsheet....
I will leave the file there if anybody wants to download it and make changes....
I think that He is trying to make a sheet for users to see wich Rom suits best each one. And not the best Rom for all.
I like the idea.
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Sounds like a good idea to get an overview over the features of all the different ROM's.
But it's only useful if you continually update it. So many updates to ROM's every day and you need to keep up if the comparison chart is to be useful.
So a lot of work, so make sure you're up to it in the long run also
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Personally i think its a waste of time as it will take too long to maintain and there is so little gain. Its pointless having so many common columns.
Why not just create a thread (if not done already) that lists roms that are JB, ICS etc so you can see which roms are out with them flavours and if they have been updated recently etc?
there's a page for that. i believe it's in the all in one sticky.
EDIT: it's in the roll up sticky all in one thread. a link in there goes to an "absolute" thread that breaks it down to which roms are what.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
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there's a page for that. i believe it's in the all in one sticky.
EDIT: it's in the roll up sticky all in one thread. a link in there goes to an "absolute" thread that breaks it down to which roms are what.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
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Nice thread, complete list of ROM's and even mods.... but doesn't say what each ROM have/uses.
What I have in mind is a search engine for ROM features, give me a ROM that is based on official samsung, and that supports OpenVPN and contains the 15 toggle mod and not contain the Ad filters by default. something like the Phone Finder on GSMArena
I see no threat just the statement that if it turns out to be a best rom thread in disguise it will be reported .
jje
I'm going to let this continue on for now, but if it does turn into any kind of war about the best rom, it will get shut down.
I don't see anything wrong for now about maybe having a "wiki for rom features", just make sure it doesn't turn into a best rom thread and it will be fine.
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Nice thread, complete list of ROM's and even mods.... but doesn't say what each ROM have/uses.
What I have in mind is a search engine for ROM features, give me a ROM that is based on official samsung, and that supports OpenVPN and contains the 15 toggle mod and not contain the Ad filters by default. something like the Phone Finder on GSMArena
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essentially, they're similar for the most part with unique tweaks to them. You should know what AOSP, AOKP, Stock (i.e. Touchwiz), Sense, and other stuff are. They are already defined in that thread. And the rest of this is up to you to test out and see what you like.
If you break it down into categories, there'll be so many columns and rows, then you would be having a spreadsheet each with one check for their own unique tweak.
in otherwords, it can get really big and messy.
edit: don't get me wrong. It seems like an interesting idea but you'll have to find a way to organize it so it doesn't become a mess. Good luck because it might be a little rough.
edit 2 for example: omega has 2 versions. one for ICS which should be "final" but it's there. and the JB version that is constantly updating. you'll need to account for that as well.
Oh thank you so much. Been waiting for a thread like this. I don't want to flash and flash each and every ROM to see what fits me. The spread sheet is awesome. Hope you'll update it every now and then.
You're missing the Rootbox ROM 4.1.2, I've been using it since I first got my s3, only problem I found is the nightlies agent so nightly lol
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I am new to the SGS3, and I still trying to find the best ROM that suits me, and there are many many ROMs for the SGS3, so instead of getting lost with all those ROMs I started creating a spreadsheet that compares all the features of ROMs.
But before going ahead in my project, I wanted to know if anybody else did this before.
I know it is a hard job to maintain, but at least it can give us a quick look of main features, and mainly to quickly filter ROMs that support a specific feature.
Take a look on what I made till now, just 4 ROMs at the moment, but later more can be added.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asy0eXCnfqpJdGQtVkRlVVRnVklNbDNMV0xuX2dualE
Update:
Filters doesn't work for anonymous users, but you can download it and enable them offline.
Update 2:
For experiments, I made a Google Form to let users fill the spreadsheet by themselves, in case somebody wants to add more roms, for extra questions, I can add them later. check it here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGQtVkRlVVRnVklNbDNMV0xuX2dualE6MQ#gid=0
Maybe later I even can create a web site to collect the information, with the ability to give the rom creates the ability to maintain the list updated..
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awesome idea great for newbs
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Add a column for ROM size, it gives some idea about the boatware included in the rom.
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This is awesome i was thinking about doing the same thing whrn i was choosing a ROM if its maintained it may get a sticky
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Hi All!
First, I would like to thank everyone here at XDA for helping me into the world of ROMs. I've barely scraped the surface and already love the whole process. A BIG thanks to the devs! I can't believe how much work they put into these things and then throw them up here for free (donations hardly account for the time and effort).
So anyways, on to the topic.
I have tested out a few roms but I am still hesitant to flash too hastily. I was wondering if anyone has tried a few of the AOSP varient roms (PA 3+, Slim Beam, AOKP Task650, PAC and CM 10.1) and which is providing the best battery life while remaining nimble. I am currently running PA 3+ and I am in love with Pie and Halo. I am aware that Halo is open source. I don't want to, but I could let go of Pie. So any ideas? I own a SGH-I337.
Again thanks XDA!
Cheers
Cody
ceichel said:
Hi All!
First, I would like to thank everyone here at XDA for helping me into the world of ROMs. I've barely scraped the surface and already love the whole process. A BIG thanks to the devs! I can't believe how much work they put into these things and then throw them up here for free (donations hardly account for the time and effort).
So anyways, on to the topic.
I have tested out a few roms but I am still hesitant to flash too hastily. I was wondering if anyone has tried a few of the AOSP varient roms (PA 3+, Slim Beam, AOKP Task650, PAC and CM 10.1) and which is providing the best battery life while remaining nimble. I am currently running PA 3+ and I am in love with Pie and Halo. I am aware that Halo is open source. I don't want to, but I could let go of Pie. So any ideas? I own a SGH-I337.
Again thanks XDA!
Cheers
Cody
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My two favorites have always been Task650's aokp and PA 3+
Task's ROMs have always been good to me on speed, stability, and battery life.. I have had mixed results depending on the device with PA 3+.. I tested PA 3.56 the other day but I'm waiting to flash again till a few more updates hit then we'll see
I'm currently on a touchwiz rom basically for the camera and ir blaster but again if I was going run aosp again (which I'm sure I will lol ) it will be one of those 2
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rcklss1 said:
My two favorites have always been Task650's aokp and PA 3+
Task's ROMs have always been good to me on speed, stability, and battery life.. I have had mixed results depending on the device with PA 3+.. I tested PA 3.56 the other day but I'm waiting to flash again till a few more updates hit then we'll see
I'm currently on a touchwiz rom basically for the camera and ir blaster but again if I was going run aosp again (which I'm sure I will lol ) it will be one of those 2
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Awesome! Thanks for the quick reply. AOKP is the top runner of ROMs I wanted to try next. Is the battery life or performance noticeably better than PA 3+?
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ceichel said:
Awesome! Thanks for the quick reply. AOKP is the top runner of ROMs I wanted to try next. Is the battery life or performance noticeably better than PA 3+?
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I'm not sure on the newer PA as I ran the first release for the s4 but I get about 13hrs from tasks aokp and around 15 hours on touchwiz ROM.. So for me I still consider that good but you'll have to see for yourself.. Every chip and every users use is different.. Also make sure you run each ROM you try for a few days.. Kernels take a few days to really settle in and start giving you optimum battery life
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rcklss1 said:
I'm not sure on the newer PA as I ran the first release for the s4 but I get about 13hrs from tasks aokp and around 15 hours on touchwiz ROM.. So for me I still consider that good but you'll have to see for yourself.. Every chip and every users use is different.. Also make sure you run each ROM you try for a few days.. Kernels take a few days to really settle in and start giving you optimum battery life
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Thanks! Anyone else try CM 10.1 or slim beam?
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ceichel said:
Thanks! Anyone else try CM 10.1 or slim beam?
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Many people have tried them. Read the threads and test them out. It all comes down to personal preference, which is why these types of threads are not allowed.
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plwalsh88 said:
Many people have tried them. Read the threads and test them out. It all comes down to personal preference, which is why these types of threads are not allowed.
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Oh. Sorry. Didn't see that in the thread rules. As I said I'm still a little nervous to flash hastily. /killthread
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ceichel said:
Oh. Sorry. Didn't see that in the thread rules. As I said I'm still a little nervous to flash hastily. /killthread
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The only way to calm those nerves is to just read read read. And then bite the bullet and flash. You'll realize how easy it is once you actually understand what you're doing and not just listening to "customer reviews".
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ceichel said:
Thanks! Anyone else try CM 10.1 or slim beam?
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I've got CM 10.1 running on mine and I like it. A few things I miss over stock but I'm sure they will be brought back. Although with the newest nightly release I am not having any trouble anymore. Battery life is pretty on par with stock, I'm sure I could adjust settings but I am still getting used to it. Reminds me of more of a computer setup which I like. Oh and I did a few tweaks on it and when connected to good internet it is lightning fast on the download/browser side and just fast and smooth in general.
As far as flashing it, it was a piece of cake.
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Many people have tried them. Read the threads and test them out. It all comes down to personal preference, which is why these types of threads are not allowed.
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i, for one, look for these type of threads if i've been away a while and want to find out what roms are most stable/popular right now. i never understood why this question was so taboo around here. not everyone wants to or has the time to read pages upon pages before we flash.
thank you to all the devs/testers/members for always making this such an amazing place
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i, for one, look for these type of threads if i've been away a while and want to find out what roms are most stable/popular right now. i never understood why this question was so taboo around here. not everyone wants to or has the time to read pages upon pages before we flash.
thank you to all the devs/testers/members for always making this such an amazing place
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So you don't have the time to read through a thread regarding a ROM that a dev took the time to make for you, but you have plenty of time to go and flash it? What a way to thank them that is. Cause saying "thank you to all the devs" is a cop out. And ending a post like that with that sentence is just a slap in the face to every one of those individuals.
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Dillsnik said:
i, for one, look for these type of threads if i've been away a while and want to find out what roms are most stable/popular right now. i never understood why this question was so taboo around here. not everyone wants to or has the time to read pages upon pages before we flash.
thank you to all the devs/testers/members for always making this such an amazing place
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If there were hundreds of ROMs available for each device, I could understand allowing these type of threads. The simple fact is with only a (relatively) small selection, the debate of "which ROM is better" is just so independent of user habits and preferences that they really hold no merit. Look at how long the "Ford or Chevy" debate has been going on.... If you're looking for a ROM that has specific features such as PIE, or Halo; that just lowers the number of available ROMs pretty drastically. How time-consuming is it to read a ROM's OP, which usually shows known bugs, and then test-drive a few of the ROMs to see which you prefer? With the right apps, it shouldn't take more than 5 or 10 minutes to have a clean-flashed ROM feeling like you've been using it for days. As for rooted/stock TW, look at the mods that are included. If it looks appealing, try it out. The amount of ROMs available with specific features relative to other ROMs is so small that it really shouldn't take more than a week to determine which ROM(s) you prefer; battery life not withstanding. Notice I didn't say which one would become your daily driver or favorite As for battery life, user's definition of "heavy use" differs pretty greatly. I personally put my phone through some "heavy use" today; almost 2 hours screen-on time. To someone else that would be classified as moderate, etc.
My advice, which really doesn't amount to much of anything, but still.... pick your ROM the same as you would pick your device; which choice provides (in good working condition) the features I want most? Second choice would be "Out of the ROMs which provide the specific features I want, from which ROM did I notice the best battery life?"
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So you don't have the time to read through a thread regarding a ROM that a dev took the time to make for you, but you have plenty of time to go and flash it? What a way to thank them that is. Cause saying "thank you to all the devs" is a cop out. And ending a post like that with that sentence is just a slap in the face to every one of those individuals.
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not sure why you're so sensitive about this buddy....
you have to understand that not all of us are on the same level here. i have been a member of this community for 7 years now...longer than many. but i can't keep up with probably 90% of the users on this board. for me, i am just never going to be able to keep up to date on everything currently going on in dev world. It takes me MANY hours when i come back to the board to find something out, flash a rom, pick a new phone, etc. i just do not have time to really read through every thread on every rom i am considering. i'm not a high enough user or up to date enough that when i read about one phone has from another i will understand what is different. so the only way i can really "get" what is a good rom, is by reading in a thread like this. call my praise a cop out, but i do appreciate this community and it's dev's more than you know, and i don't feel reading a 100 page thread is the way to show appreciation.
I completely understand both sides of this argument. I think we should respect the devs whole heartily. But what's the matter with getting some personal opinions from a few other users? Maybe create a thread specifically from ROM reviews. I have done a considerable amount of reading and as I said I feel that I have barely scratched the surface. This is a process with a steep learning curve and I believe it should be a main purpose of a forum devoted to android and development that people should be able to ask other users their opinion. I will not create part such as this any more because it is not allowed, but I do not see the harm.
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you said one word in your post that is exactly the type of word that i think is why people do NOT like these kinds of threads: REVIEWS.
and i get that. all of these devs work hard and they put a lot of themselves out there for the world....to potentially be judged, to some extent, by noobs like us, that don't know any better, and couldn't do any better. And yes, some devs are ahead of others, but this forum has always been gracious and respectful to ALL devs and all dev work. And i have seen threads with polls of which users use which rom, and i think having some roms out there to just be judged, bashed, or ignored, is partly why the community disapproves of any thread that might "discuss" a which ROM is best type of conversation. I think there is a way to do it and still be very helpful to some, and more importantly, respectful to all.
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I completely understand both sides of this argument. I think we should respect the devs whole heartily. But what's the matter with getting some personal opinions from a few other users? Maybe create a thread specifically from ROM reviews. I have done a considerable amount of reading and as I said I feel that I have barely scratched the surface. This is a process with a steep learning curve and I believe it should be a main purpose of a forum devoted to android and development that people should be able to ask other users their opinion. I will not create part such as this any more because it is not allowed, but I do not see the harm.
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A thread which reviews different ROMs sounds good in theory. A one-stop place to quickly scan through the pro's and con's of each ROM and read what other users are saying about each ROM does seem like a good idea. But think of 2 weeks from now; when most every ROM has posted an updated version, merged new changes, fixed certain bugs, introduced new bugs, and added new features. Within a month's time it would become so cluttered and disjointed that new members/device owners would just post a new thread asking the same exact question because it's faster than reading through 100 pages of the original topic. A ROM review thread would almost certainly be just like each individual ROM's development thread put into one place. Way too long to read, one user complaining, a handful echoing the complaint, another handful giving praise, etc.
On an unrelated note, if I remember correctly, there is a thread here on the AT&T side saying something like "Noob friendly, no question too stupid" or something. Instead of posting new threads about the same tiresome topics, why not find a relevant thread and post the question there? Example: if you want clarification on how to root your device, post it in an already established rooting thread. If you want to know which recovery is best or suggestions on what ROM to flash, try a noob-friendly "ask any question" thread.
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A thread which reviews different ROMs sounds good in theory. A one-stop place to quickly scan through the pro's and con's of each ROM and read what other users are saying about each ROM does seem like a good idea. But think of 2 weeks from now; when most every ROM has posted an updated version, merged new changes, fixed certain bugs, introduced new bugs, and added new features. Within a month's time it would become so cluttered and disjointed that new members/device owners would just post a new thread asking the same exact question because it's faster than reading through 100 pages of the original topic. A ROM review thread would almost certainly be just like each individual ROM's development thread put into one place. Way too long to read, one user complaining, a handful echoing the complaint, another handful giving praise, etc.
On an unrelated note, if I remember correctly, there is a thread here on the AT&T side saying something like "Noob friendly, no question too stupid" or something. Instead of posting new threads about the same tiresome topics, why not find a relevant thread and post the question there? Example: if you want clarification on how to root your device, post it in an already established rooting thread. If you want to know which recovery is best or suggestions on what ROM to flash, try a noob-friendly "ask any question" thread.
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Well said. I'll check out the mentioned thread. Thanks!
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ceichel said:
Thanks! Anyone else try CM 10.1 or slim beam?
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Love slimbean loyal user ran it on my last 3 devices use it current very stable if u like the smaller DPI like I do its great and never seen a bug that wasn't an upstream issue
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