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[ANNOUNCEMENT] For the future of X8

Dudes,
As everybody who is active in the X8 section, noticed that FXP leaved and i think that the other devs will leave in the near time.
We as proud owners of the X8 should think about what we need for our phone.
So each user who can do something for it should do it. If it is a theme, an icon pack or a widget, please do it and post it.
So what do you think about my idea?

Heh i will do something, if i can but sorry i cant program anything so sorry
Sent from my X8 using Tapatalk

Don't panic. Just wait for ICS source. In Gingerbread there's almost nothing new in development.

exebreez said:
Dudes,
As everybody who is active in the X8 section, noticed that FXP leaved and i think that the other devs will leave in the near time.
We as proud owners of the X8 should think about what we need for our phone.
So each user who can do something for it should do it. If it is a theme, an icon pack or a widget, please do it and post it.
So what do you think about my idea?
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exebreez said:
As everybody who is active in the X8 section, noticed that FXP leaved
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No big loss here ... the FXP ROM is incomplete (VGA-only camera, broken FM Radio) and bug riddled, and the "how to install" is lousily documented making it a unnecessary rocket science to get it installed.
and i think that the other devs will leave in the near time.
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I don't see any indication that doixanh has abandoned us. He said he needs some time for his own (real life matters), so that's perfectly fine.
While I loved the fast-paced updates he released I think it would be sufficient if he would be so kind to cook an update once in a while when there's either a new Android revision (i.e. 2.3.8) that fixes a security problem or when there's a fix for some severe bug.
GingerDX, in my opinion, is THE most feature-complete and stable Android 2.3 series ROM we have for the X8.

If we all learn about rom/app development, our phone will live forever (?)

as I can learn to develop? I'd like to help.

If someone is willing to be kind,and make thread for beginner developers,which includes:
-First steps in system developing
-Tutorials on app and rom building
-Tools etc.
Also,include easy tasks that devs are not up to/having no time for,like "Test that app with different somenting-values on this file,report",or "Examine this device,find more about drivers,parts,etc.",or "Translate this ..." That's what users can do.
I'm certainly willing to participate on this.

G.Trenchev said:
If someone is willing to be kind,and make thread for beginner developers,which includes:
-First steps in system developing
-Tutorials on app and rom building
-Tools etc.
Also,include easy tasks that devs are not up to/having no time for,like "Test that app with different somenting-values on this file,report",or "Examine this device,find more about drivers,parts,etc.",or "Translate this ..." That's what users can do.
I'm certainly willing to participate on this.
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Good idea! Im going participate too
Sent from my Shakira using XDA App

if you havent ever worked with linux,its really hard to learn android developing.but,there is one good site for help.
http://www.howtoforge.com/

Similar topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317181

xperiauser132 said:
if you havent ever worked with linux,its really hard to learn android developing.but,there is one good site for help.
http://www.howtoforge.com/
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I work in linux every day
Sent from my Shakira using XDA App

Heh nice idea, unfortunately I do not have any development skills whatsoever. I think there will be enough x8 development, though .
Sent from my E15 using XDA App

actually i was thinking that too,,, i am an IT student and i too like to contribute on developing a cool up to date custom rom for our Xperia X8s, (i'm not the richest type to buy those dual core droid, but i love my X8 and will stick to it for years) so that i will do my best to learn android and to create a custom rom.... also we can get help from current professionals too....

For everybody that still using Stock 2.1, here's a theme that makes your x8 looks almost identical to the 2011 minis,, Its made by A-chep,D-shel, and the different color versions by Me.. So chek them out, you'll like it! Link here:
X-Mini : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214655
Sorry About my English... Im learning

Sim unlock!!!!

For a start, personally i think what it needs is more tools in Linux environment. Now that X8 bootloader has been cracked, it should free us from ever being bound to SE allegiance to MS.
Android evolves from Linux. So it makes natural sense to have tools on our linux desktop as well.

Im doing my part http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363903 Hope it makes a difference to someone

ICS Source Code is Online! Devs, we will donate generously if you make ROMS :D

Check it out:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/T4XZJCZnqF8

Offering money isn't going to make a ROM appear. We don't even have a fully working CM7 ROM for start.. no chance with ICS any time soon.

flibblesan said:
Offering money isn't going to make a ROM appear. We don't even have a fully working CM7 ROM for start.. no chance with ICS any time soon.
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So? we can't move on until cm7 decides to release a fully working ROM???
MIUI 1.11.4 is 100% functional.
Look, if a custom ROM, that aims to be an improvement from stock, start by cutting main services such as mms without having to enable data, I think is the beginning of something that will never have an happy ending. So waiting for a 100% functional cm7 Is an utoppy. Or is the Dev waiting for the official Huawei release?
MIUI is already working on ICS port and is planned up be released in December.
I think they will not wait for CM7....

I hope that they'll at least take u8800 pro into consideration...

I don't care about u8800 pro. To be honest it has been growing posts for this device in a place that belongs to u8800. But this not your fault. this is admins fault for their lack of attention and organisation

Well I do care since I'm the owner of a u8800 pro device (the numbers will grow, since u8800 is out of production now). I just wish I knew how to contribute more to ROM development.
Regarding the organization, I don't really mind, tagging on the title does the trick and this thread doesn't appear to be limited to the normal u8800.

You and other people are posting issues and asking question concerned with U8800pro in
(xda-developers > Huawei Ideos X5 U8800 > Ideos X5 U8800 General >...)
You see U8800pro anywhere?

This u8800 forum belongs to any type of u8800 i think... you have "fear" that the pro version is the only one that could have an ISC version because its better and can run ICS perfectly and you just can "attack" pro version owners if you want ICS in your device start working on it and don't ask others to do it.

it would be nice, if we have the ICS in ideos X5. I don't understand this war between normal version and pro version, it is the same shi*t.
So, please, take off that anger

rubengs said:
This u8800 forum belongs to any type of u8800 i think... you have "fear" that the pro version is the only one that could have an ISC version because its better and can run ICS perfectly and you just can "attack" pro version owners if you want ICS in your device start working on it and don't ask others to do it.
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1st you think wrong.
2nd I'm not afraid of anything. If I had I would buy a dog
3rd I don't give a **** for ICS version or for you.
4th Tomatoes is also a fruit not a vegetable. Did you knew that? Know, what has a tomato to do with other fruits? Does it make any sense that tomato is a fruit? But it is.
Ok, now U8800 and U8800 are compatible, what we can put in one can also put on both? I don't think so. So, its a different phone with different specs, with similar name. Therefore being in the same place will only cause confusion specially for those who are newbie’s.
5th Learn how to read and understand the meaning of peoples words (many words form a phrase). You will then understand that what I meant to say is that its a lack of organisation from the forum admins part not other members fault. Admins Fault!!!
And this is not an attack to anyone.
You accusing me of being attacking people remind the stupidity of some black people when get arrested the first thing they do is complaining about racism. But they are always innocent... lololol
6th when you start posting something real useful and helpful to other instead of commenting other peoples opinions with misleading interpretations???? I don’t want to believe that this is way over your head.... Chill out dude, prove I'm wrong and move on

Lol yeah, I believe the proper solution would be to have two subforums, U8800 and U8800pro, or atleast a subforum in our subforum (U8800). Its really confusing if it stays the way it is now.
Sent from my u8800

Obviously. Every monkey should be on hes own tree.
Threads are getting all ****ed up because of mixing information from different and incompatible devices. Because they are different and what works for one will brick the other.
I sure that people that have U8800pro or U8800-51 or any other device like to see dedicated, clean and organised places where they can discuss their doubts and ideas without mixed ups and confusions. I’m I wrong?

Druida69 said:
Obviously. Every monkey should be on hes own tree.
Threads are getting all ****ed up because of mixing information from different and incompatible devices. Because they are different and what works for one will brick the other.
I sure that people that have U8800pro or U8800-51 or any other device like to see dedicated, clean and organised places where they can discuss their doubts and ideas without mixed ups and confusions. I’m I wrong?
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I really dont like your attitude, but.. some things you say are right. U8800 / U8800H / U8800PRO / U8800H are different and they should have a subforum. If they are no different (U8800 vs U8800H for example) should be on a sticky or something.

We're getting offtopic...
My last post: Who is actually the moderator in this forum?

ı2m porting ics rom on u8800. but dont foun touchscreen driver. try nexus one driver not run

oguzhan mobile said:
ı2m porting ics rom on u8800. but dont foun touchscreen driver. try nexus one driver not run
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Do you simply edit the compiled rom or build it from source? I am trying it myself (build the AOSP project), but I am too noob and haven't got it to build yet.

oguzhan mobile said:
ı2m porting ics rom on u8800. but dont foun touchscreen driver. try nexus one driver not run
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Can't you use an older driver, such 2.3.5 our 2.3.7 versions?

Druida69 said:
You and other people are posting issues and asking question concerned with U8800pro in
(xda-developers > Huawei Ideos X5 U8800 > Ideos X5 U8800 General >...)
You see U8800pro anywhere?
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Is there a more appropriate subforum for u8800 pro? As far as I can tell, no, there isn't one. With that in mind, the u8800 forum is the one that fits best and unless something changes the u8800 pro posts will increase in volume.
I'd like a separate forum too, however it's not my job to administer the forum (or guide the admins on how to do their job) but I'm certainly not "hijacking" anything. Unless a separate forum is so decided, title tagging will have to do; you don't have to be offensive about it (nor doing so will make one appear out of thin air).

rubengs said:
This u8800 forum belongs to any type of u8800 i think... you have "fear" that the pro version is the only one that could have an ISC version because its better and can run ICS perfectly and you just can "attack" pro version owners if you want ICS in your device start working on it and don't ask others to do it.
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You sir, obviously have no cluea of what you're talking. Why on earth would original U8800 not be able to handle ICS based rom? Please, some facts.
Pro and other versions need their own sub forums as they really are different phones with different hardware. It's almost the same as saying all the Nexus phones have to be in the same forums as they have "Nexus" in their name. The current state of forums and phone models only create confusion, especially to people that are new to android and Huawei phones. This can lead to people bricking their phones by flashing something that is not made for their model.
Gotta say that I also agree that this druida guy should learn some manners.

Can we stay on topic please without the immature playground arguments flaring up again.
Thanks.

Ultimate Rom Requirement specification thread

Hello Guys,
This is my first post on XDA forum because I'm new here. I didn't post any threads till now because I didn't want to spam the forum with any unwanted thread or duplicate ones, but I have tried many Roms and I already knew some really cool and helpful guys like Jader, Mechmetal and Bestttt :fingers-crossed:
I used to work as a software engineer, but currently i'm working as a software quality control engineer.
and as I said earlier I have tried many Roms and I also have found lots of bugs and enhancements required.
I wanted to post comments but sadly I'm not allowed to because terms and conditions stated that I can't comment unless I post at least 10 threads :crying:
Anyway, I just wanted to suggest something,
I suggest organizing a thread for something like a requirement sheet for each Rom, speaking about myself I installed lots of roms but I removed it again because it has less customizations , or it doesn't have a built in application that I really want or it has another one I don't like (ex: toggles) while it had been a fast and stable one.
so why don't we find a way to collect the requirements of the users installing JB Roms, and ICS roms so the developers can put their effort in two really cool and helpful roms to have most of our needs:good:
It was just a suggestion
I'm have Xperia Arc [lt15i] with AOKP M1 - Fusion Kernel 3.9

Given how many ROMs there are, along with the fact that everyone's different this is a fruitless task, and why I learned to mod myself. You also can't expect Devs/Themers to cater for every last persons requirements.
Sent from my CM9'd Ray

XperienceD said:
Given how many ROMs there are, along with the fact that everyone's different this is a fruitless task, and why I learned to mod myself. You also can't expect Devs/Themers to cater for every last persons requirements.
Sent from my CM9'd Ray
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Yes, Sure I get what you mean, it's so exhaustive
I meant something like Bug reporting technique, issues or enhancements with priorities and severity.
Anyways it was just a suggestion
Thanks anyway

futchy4u said:
Anyways it was just a suggestion
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Which are always good, but like I've said we're all different and what you may like in a ROM I might not so what you might call a "requirement" I might call a gimmick.
Also, you don't need to start 10 threads to post in Development, you just need to make 10, preferably helpful posts elsewhere.

XperienceD said:
Which are always good, but like I've said we're all different and what you may like in a ROM I might not so what you might call a "requirement" I might call a gimmick.
Also, you don't need to start 10 threads to post in Development, you just need to make 10, preferably helpful posts elsewhere.
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I didn't start 10 threads to post in the Development section, I downloaded and tried most of the Roms in the development section,
The number of posts near my name are just replies
plus, my posts in the development sections are not requests , so I could still use it normally since I registered on XDA without the need to comment
Thanks anyway it was just an Idea that I thought about and I just wanted to share.

I have tested many JB Based Roms/ Kernels if you have created modded one where WiFi / WiFi Tethering is Stable and working I would be much obliged of having and Using it on my phone ... The best Rom / Kernel I have tried so far has been LuPus V4 Kernel with CAMPS Rom but unfortunately like all the rest WiFi Tethering has been insignificant and unusable Where as I have to constantly downgrade back to JellySandwich / Ark Knight Combo (ICS) Untill there's been a fix ... So There's are my 2 needs hope that helps with your conquest in making a Universal Rom

Mod ur own rom and rule the world because no developer will ever work to create a rom as per ur convince
Sent from my lt18i using xda premium

kaushikpasi said:
Mod ur own rom and rule the world because no developer will ever work to create a rom as per ur convince
Sent from my lt18i using xda premium
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Would love to but don't know how too so just enjoying other people's work. Testing and using them all till I find a good which I have done atm which runs extremely well
Sent from my Xperia Arc S using xda app-developers app

xda devs mate already organized the threads.. also we got good moderators... this is a free forum.. you need to earn the recognized developr to gain the reputation.. or other title.. theres no instant here... show off your works and get recognized.
if you can fix some bugs.. you can contribute in developing the roms.. btw welcome...
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[DEV] Finding a devs team

Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey

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markey97 said:
Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
Sent from my GT-I9001 using xda app-developers app

XeLLaR* said:
Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
Sent from my GT-I9001 using xda app-developers app
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First of all, i appreciate all the work of ivendor , skywalker, brood, xistance and arco and others who did an amazing job of porting major roms to our device. But i must honestly say, i agree on some points with the OP. It is amazing with what we achieved on our small but awesome community, but our phone is getting old and eventually we will be left behind. So now it is the best time to combine all of the knowledge that is hidden in our i9001 section to ensure the future.
In the past year i have been in this section i saw a lot of stuff that could be fixed faster if people would communicate more, like the well known cm9 camera problem (i dont know for sure there was miscommunication as i dont know what happened in the background). A dev team would be awesome.
But i am afraid that this won't work anymore. The glorious days of the i9001 are over. Many good devs left us.
But is is worth the shot. Would be so awesome! If you have any android knowledge, please join.
(I am to stupid. I cant join. I know how qtADB works but that is all).
Also i like the idea of combining the two devices and make a giant dev team for both so we can benefit from there knowledge and they from ours!
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XeLLaR* said:
Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
Sent from my GT-I9001 using xda app-developers app
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No i'm not, otherwise I couldn't have read the forum and written this here
(Just joking)
I know that we have a lot of ROMs, but there are some from 2 different developers because one of them hasn't updated very long or stopped the project and then a new dev took the work.
Thats your personal opinion and I accept it.
I mean this all because of the bugs that have to be fixed.
No its not that awesome, look at the dhd, they have a big dev team who solves most of the bugs there and they have fully functional Android 4.2 and MANY more ROMs than we have also have a look at some other 2 or more year old devices, most of them have big dev teams who do fast and great work.
I really appreciate the work of all our developers (!!we have a 3.4 kernel which even much newer and better devices don't have!!) but we can make this even better and faster.
Thanks i know this but in general section we couldn't get a team together and i also forgot about this section because i mostly (nearly only) use the developement section
Greets and regards,
markey

I seem to agree with xellar's view. Our I9001 forum is great as it is for a two year old device and development seems to be moving forward at a well-placed pace. I dont see any point in creating a ''dev team'' . Dont get me wrong , I'd love to see it happen. But Im comfortable with the pace here .

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I would also apreciate a dev. BUT the developement of the last 2 years was that good, that i can't comlpain on anything. It works very well the way it goes now. Maybe in the near future (~6 moths) when more importent (doesn't mean the other are unimportant) devs leave the s+ and 5.0 will be roll out, maybe then we need a dev-team.
But we have already s.t. like dev-teams:
Arco and Ivendor (CM9/10)
The kernel devs (Erik, castagna, Biagio, Christopher, ...)
Xistance and Doom (CM10.1)
They all share allready there knowledge and function.
So... No need to hurry in my opinion :beer:
"...nothing is more powerful than a young boy's wish. Except an Apache helicopter..." -Ted

i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.

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I'd love to be in the team
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dr.wtf said:
i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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As true as this is, I still don't like the fact that you say we just fork their work. Both arco and ivendor haven't even started doing any real work on 4.2, forget giving us anything. Camcory and I have brought 4.2 by ourselves, just using arco's kernel source(which is REALLY important so I'm saying nothing to arco).

you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much

dr.wtf said:
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Only one thing to say:: does not make any sense at all...
What op asked is on team..wats happening here is just nonsense..if somebody interested to work with him pls do it..if u are not interested get the f** k out of here...its not must that each and everyone has to put their point of view..if u are ready to help then help..otherwise leave from this thread...simple....
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This thread needs to be closed. Its like a slap in the face for all of our developers. Shame on you! Show some respect to them. They sacrifiy a lot time to give us a better user experience for our phones but well, everyone is like "hurrdhurr dat fone is not even like a galaxy s3 now brah after flasching tis rom my fone suks bad ass".. Instead of saying thanks to the developers or donate some buck to them for a fresh beer or something.
Always remember this is a single core device, with a midrange chipset and it cant handle even close as much as a S3 or S2.
We have a fully working (vsync and tripple buffer are working and all ither stuff) Jellybean cm10. Not even the s2 or s3 have this because of the lack of sources for their exynos cpus.
I hate this unrepectless behavior.
Be happy with what you got here FOR FREE. And for a Non-flagship device like our i9001, we have A HELL OF A LOT roms and kernels!
Get your **** together people.
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Disrespectfull: YES understandeble: YES.
At our forum/development we got 1-person teams. Some ROMS are made with someone on the background (CM9/CM10/CM10.1).. But the other ROMS that are based on these are made and maintained by 1 person.
I got the feeling that some of us dont have PATIENCE..
And that is something what is very stupid.
Teams are working faster and fixing faster and better bugs in ROMS, that is true.
If the OP want to make a team just ask some developers for godssake. These topic are as disrespectfull as saying WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO UPDATE OR FIXING THIS OR THAT in every goddamm topic.
Just my opnion..

dr.wtf said:
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Alright, even through, I shouldn't have any comments here as you already screw things up really bad, I feel like I must do it to clear things up a bit around here.
First of all, you said yourself that you don't have any knowledge related to software development, so why are you messing with people that actually devote time to do it? If you have no ideea what development is, why are you talking about it in this manner? I mean, it is ok to ask or to make mistakes, everybody does, nobody is perfect but I consider this post offensive and I must defend myself here.
Second, as far as I'm consern, my GitHub is MINE and I and only I will decide when to push something there. I cannot be forced by anyone to do anything. So, your sentece "I didn's see anything going on on your github" so what?!? Tell me, why should I post anything just for you to see it? Ah, you think I lack activity? Again, so what? I or any other Open Source developer cannot be forced by anyone to publish something. We do this because we like it, we are not paid for it. Maybe if you would pay me to do these things, yeah you could have the right to judge my activity. This is open source, this is Android, the developers are bringing stuff to the end user but the end user is free to choose if he wants to use that piece of software or if he doesn't want to use that software. Same applies to you, you don't have to flash anything on your phone just because it's there online, if you don't like it, don't use it .
About my 3.4 kernel. I mentioned in the OP of the thread that it is an early "alpha" nothing more. I even used the word "preview". If the end user doesn't like the way the kernel is, than he wont use it.
Oh, and I'm not supposed to say this but I'll take this opportunity just for you to see that I'm not lacking activity and actually I want to develop that 3.4 kernel, also I'll explain why I didn't update anything on github.
I worked locally, and everytime I fixed something, 2 other errors came up, after I fixed those 2, another 3 came up and so on. That's why I choosed not to push anything to git until I get something concret. I said this a million times actually: I have no ideea when that kernel will be ready and if it will be ready, I am going to decide if it will be published to git and XDA or not. This is my personal decision, you can't influence me in any way to do anything.
Also, I'm not a full time developer, I'm still a beginer, I'm still learning things here and I choosed to share my work with others, here on XDA because I thought that my work could be usefull. If you or anyone else don't find it usefull, as I said, don't use it .
Also, ivendor won't quit either and there is nothing on me...again, you are trying to push me...this is hilarious...I choosed to start the 3.4 kernel project but that doesn't mean that I must finish it... I really hope you understood something from this post, if not please, just let it go and ignore it. Also, there is no need to apologise, you were wrong by trying to put pressure on me but I ignored it, as you probaly noticed.
Cheers,
Erik

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Insulting to our developers an absolutly not development related..
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Who Supports A New Kernel Multiboot!!

Hello Friends From XDA!
The Intension Of This Post,
is collecting signatures (or orders) to know how many users want to have a multiboot kernel (GB / ICS / JB)
as the current and (Turbo Kernel 3.1) but more stable and with better performance ..
Users who want to, and they would like a kernel so ..
please do so knowing in this post ..
if possible then we'll ask the developers,
to see if any are encouraged, or have time to continue with the development of (turbo kernel 3.1)
which still has some bugs and lacks optmizar a little more for performance ..
PS: I think we can have (GB / ICS / JB) installed simultaneously is one of the most brilliant things we've had for our device, not it???

Really, do you think that the multiboot thing that is not developed for months will be restarted only because you do a poll and ask to someone else to do the work?
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No one will do what you want, if you want to get this problems fixed, just learn C and kernel programming and do it for yourself, don't forget that people have a real life...

Wow this thread didnt go as the op intended lol but people need to be realistic. Im sure evryone would like to see a kernel like this. Anyways my play seems to have finally died (i think its the flex cable) so until im back in the usa i cant fix it and by then i might just not bother

@gangstermartorell & @[email protected] , I think you have no right to make that kind of comment, if someone does not like the idea, or do not sign the petition and ready .. the only ones who have the right to complain if the developers do not like the idea .. or sorry! you are developers?? no ... lol.
ah! and @ abdel12345, thanks for your comment. and sorry about your Xplay .. : (.. I just came a few days you thinking of buying a flex, to have spare just in case, and now with this that happened to you .. and I am convinced ..
I keep my Xplay much longer .. and now I see PPSSPP progress, and future NDS emulator (DRASTIC) even better ..

And do you have any right to demanding such thing to people? I think that these threads have to be deleted because are extremely contained with SPAM.

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And do you have any right to demanding such thing to people? I think that these threads have to be deleted because are extremely contained with SPAM.
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I think you did not understand the intention of the post .. the intention of the post.'s collecting signatures to see if people would like a kernel multiboot .. and then if people support the idea.
Please ask the developers .. and if you do not want any problems .. no .. this all more than good. no intension to demand anything from anyone .. is more, the developer (DiKeJ) .. very kindly said he'd be happy, (when I have free time) to support this idea .. and what's more, they also help to several developers would ask as (extremetempz & Wegdess)

Wedgess already said that he will not work to the multiboot things months ago cause this is the work of cosmicDan, so it is also a form of respect for him.
Extremetempz, really I will not start any flame, but looking his thread (not haved time to look his github, maybe I am wrong) seems to me more a user that recompile sources and add some overclock than a kernel developer, so I don't think that he can/will pick up this work.
Sorry if I say something that you don't like, but what we are saying sadly is the reality, our board haven't a lot of skilled developers, we have only some ports from the mogami board, so don't expect so much
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We don't need a multiboot kernel, we just need a 3.x.x kernel, which would allow us to have a working and smooth android 4.3 on our xperia plays