[Q] Keyboard/Mouse - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi.
I haven't yet tried to use a keyboard/mouse on a tablet before. Is this something USB otg can facilitate if I plug one in?
Does Android support keyboard/mouse in the first place?

Yes it does, and as far as I know, it always has. Even on your phone, if you connect a regular bluetooth mouse or keyboard, they should work out of the box.
Edit: clarification: most phones don't have OTG capabilities, so that's why I mentioned bluetooth, as it's the only way to have those peripherals connected. Devices which support OTG should work with regular USB peripherals.
I wonder if the N10 will somehow create a new market for micro-usb components, so people won't need a OTG cable.

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USB host?

I can't find a proof data that Dell Streak support USB _host_
Does somebody know it for sure?
If yes, could it support at least usb keyboard/mouse and external HDD without some kind of hacks?
You can use blutooth keyboard http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/06/dell-streak-supports-bluetooth-keyboards.html
how would you connect usb devices with cable?
So, let's imagine we sucessfully connected Keyboard and Mouse as Bluetooth HID devices.
But, sorry, it's not discover whether does it have USB host (!) or not.
The question is:
-will we have ability to have acess via USB to our USB storages (any, HDDs, DVD/BD drives, Flash drives)
-will we have ability to use USB peripheral devices like (additional) USB video cameras, printers, USB-Ethernet devices, etc (after got drivers for it)?

Connecting random stuff to OTG cable...

Just wondering what people have tried to connect to their SGS2s via OTG cables... I have tried the following:
Working:
Generic Logitech wireless mouse via USB wireless dongle
Logitech MX1000 wireless mouse via MX's docking station
Genius USB laser mouse
8GB micro SD card via USB adaptor
64GB SSD USB HDD via y-splitter for additional power
Wireless USB mini keyboard with touchpad (the touchpad worked perfectly & CTRL-ALT-DEL rebooted the phone!!!)
Not working:
Samsung ML-2240 laser printer (recognized but won't print)
Logitech STX webcam (unknown device)
Generic bluetooth USB dongle (unknown device)
87 views and no-one else plugging random USB **** into their phone? Just me then, lol.
i tried to plug in via usb:
generic usb mouse
many usb keys from 2 - 16gb
via bluetooth:
mouse
not working via usb:
generic keyboard
via hdmi and working:
lg lcd tv
projector philips
but via hdmi subtitles was not shown, only on phone
i will try printers today...
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Major_Sarcasm said:
Generic bluetooth USB dongle (unknown device)
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Would be kind of pointless anyway.
When my SGS2 and an OTG arrive, I will test some of my hardware(G15(gaming keyboard with lcd display), Razer Diamondback(mouse), Saitek Cyborg EVO(Joystick), HD2(Android phone) and if I ever have too much money and time, something like THIS and of course USB storage devices from 16MB-1,5TB etc. ) Will let you guys know how everything works.
Raudi1 said:
I will test some of my hardware(G15(gaming keyboard with lcd display
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I tried my Logitech G15 and didn't have much success. Connected directly, it's simply a high power USB device, and via a powered hub, it sometimes is detected, usually isn't (seems to depend in what order it's connected). Regardless, I haven't managed to make it function correctly.
On the other hand, my Logitech MX 518 mouse works great connected directly.
My Logitech Webcam 9000 Pro is detected (even directly), but is unrecognized.
I did some tests with the OTG.
Working:
All USB sticks I tested with.
Keychain Spycam. You can even charge it with the phone Only the webcame mode doesn't work
Some old Logitech wireless notebook mouse
Standard Logitech mouse (one that came with a pc)
Not working:
NTFS drive(Haven't tried the NTFS drivers)
HTC HD2-ADB: High power device. Can't test with powered HUB, because the only one I have is the one in my pc display and that doesn't seem to work with my SGS2.
Razer Diamondback:High power device.
Logitech G15:High power device. (as reported above)
Saitek Cyborg Evo (Joystick):The LEDs in the joystick are working, but whatever I press, nothing happens on the device.
Cheap keyboard with backlight:High power device.
Edit: of courses wifi, Bluetooth and UMTS/HSDPA aren't working over otg either xD
Will update when I try more devices
Has anyone tried if it works with a Logitech G700 ?
Do I need 2.3.4 for all this ? I've heard I do ..
I was wondering if a usb dvb-t tuner should work to watch tv( i didn't try).
Hope someone will test it
Connected my digital camera Sony CyberShot DSC-W300 with USB and a new folder appeared in the Gallery app with all the pictures, impressed.
Didn't work with a Canon G5.
I tried a generic USB mouse and keyboard, several flash drives and my wireless mini-keyboard/mouse-combo via USB dongle
Everything worked
Dr.Sid said:
Do I need 2.3.4 for all this ? I've heard I do ..
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Nope, works on 2.3.3 as well.
Samsung implemented the host stuff from the start on.
Just wondering which OTG cables you guys are using. Also are there externally powered versions available (to power devices with higher requirements)?
I use a cheap 9 bucks one from the ew-Bay.
One day I left the wireless dongle for my minikeyboard/-mouse thing connected - phone was in standby all day, but battery was dead empty after a few hours *lol*
Xbox 360 wired controller : recognized as unknown device, lovely it looks it's NOT a power eating controller ! Lights turn on ok
Apple iPad 1G : could work great (device well mounting at first) but it's recognized as high power device, so... Not working.
Sony PSP : Works perfect
Another android phone (Xperia x10i) : guest detects well USB connection, it charges battery (!) and USB mount works. However, host doesn't detect anything.
I tryied my usb 3 drive formated with ntfs and it worked,:good: played mkv video nice and smooth.
As for the cable I bought it on ebay just standard otg cable
I tried Logitech M310 mouse and K360 keyboard both worked.
Can't find any OTG cable in my area :/ and Ebay is not supported in PK yet
ii7Stryker said:
Can't find any OTG cable in my area :/ and Ebay is not supported in PK yet
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Try dealextreme - free shipping worldwide. I bought OTG for about two dollars.
Thanks for telling , I will order it from them .
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Thanks for telling , I will order it from them .
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I have this one from DealExtreme: Micro USB Male to USB Female OTG Cable for Samsung Galaxy S2/i9100/Nokia N8 + More

[Q] Question about SlimPort

So the Nexus 4 doesn't have USB OTG support. That sucks. I'm fairly certain the answer on the following question will be "no", but I've still got hope.
With SlimPort, you can connect your Nexus 4 to a HDMI monitor, similar to MHL. It also charges your device. In my amazing Dell ST2220T touch monitor (well, the touch isn't so amazing, but the screen quality is), there are four USB ports. When I connect my Nexus 4 to my monitor with SlimPort, would I be able to plug in a keyboard and mouse in the USB ports on my monitor?
If not, I could use bluetooth (if you can connect multiple devices at least, both mouse and keyboard) or use the touch functionality on my monitor, but I'm not sure that works because it's a seperate cable.
It would be really cool to use the N4 as a sort of mini computer. Like Ubuntu had in mind. I can connect it to my speakers, to my monitor, I'm only hoping that I won't have to buy bluetooth accessoires. I prefer to use my wired accessoires, or if that isn't possible the touch functionality of my monitor, but I'm fairly both won't be possible.
the usb on your monitor would have a upstream connector that goes into your pc, so it won't work with phone,
you have to use bluetooth keyboard and mouse
republicano said:
the usb on your monitor would have a upstream connector that goes into your pc, so it won't work with phone,
you have to use bluetooth keyboard and mouse
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So even if the N4 had USB Host support, I still wouldn't be able to use a wired keyboard and mouse together with the SlimPort, right? I doubt there's some adapter that can do both.
The slimport controller acts as a switch, it either routes usb or displayport signals though the data pins, the usb lanes are not connected while it's in use.
While displayport does contain aux pins for handling additional stuff such as usb (hypothetically?), those pins do not exist in our setup.

RAZRi XT890 USB OTG Capabilities (Thread for all Devices)

Me and few other people still asking about OTG capabilities so lets make combined thread for all.
What I figured out for now.
First of all RAZR i does not support OTG itself cause has no power on micro USB port so You need more than regular USB OTG cable.
You need minimum 1A powered USB HUB which means just buy regular 3/4/8 ports USB HUB but with 1A (can be 2A too) AC adapter.
So connection should looks like:
RAZRi -> OTG Cable -> USB Powered HUB -> USB Device
It's simple part. Lest make something harder.
List of devices which I tested:
USB HUB
KitKat should bring more OTG capabilitiesfor us so to prepare for that I bought new USB HUB with built in OTG support.
It the same like THIS one and it's dedicated for Samsung S3, S4 etc.
Hub is made not so bad, it has built in OTG support so no need other adapters and it has power connector.
To use this HUB You need to connect it to DC 5V/1A with 1,35/3,5 to USB cable. I used this cable and regular Moto wall charger. You can also use power bank as power for more mobility.
All my USB devices working fine under this HUB so I can recommend this for RAZRi.
Mouses and Keyboards
RAZRi has no problems to detect and handle with most of mouses and keyboards. No modifications are needed. Just Plug & Play.
USB Drives (Pendrives, HDD's etc)
Unfortunately none of them are working. Phone detects devices in some apps but drives are not detected as drives, just devices and they can't be mounted. I think without any kernel modifications drives can't be mounted. Apps to mount drives can't handle with it too.
USB Audio Devices / DAC
Unfortunately I have only 2 devices like that. Sound Blaster Surround 5.1 USB and Logitech Stereo USB Speakers.
Both tested with USB Audio Tester ROOT.
Creative is correctly detected but there is no sound on every setting.
Logitech USB speakers are detected correctly too but I was able to make it works but only to hear sound from internal microphone. No way to hear music or any sound from phone.
I tested SoundAbout Pro tp force playing from USB host but it failed. I don't know any other app can make it. Also I'm really noob at Linux so I have no idea what to modify in Alsa driver to redirect sound on USB audio device.
USB Game Controllers / PAD
I have only wireless XBOX360 pad so can be hard to make it work but heard somewhere that can be possible. In few days i'll check what can be done with it.
Tested with Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2, working like a charm without any mods. OFC You need to use button mapper or any similar app cause after connect pad is working like mouse but after remap we have fully working cordless pad.
USB Network Adapters
At this moment I tested only cheap RJ45 to USB adapter but it doesn't work. Strange cause activity led on adapter is blinking sometimes and it stops when phone is off but nothing except this.
Any other news, suggestions, tests of working devices are welcome.
Network adapters updated.
Wysłane z Motorola RAZR i.
You need to mod the kernel to add usbstorage like the samsung S3 and the framework apk i think, maybe some hardcore developers can help on it.
xbox 360 controller is detected as device but is not working something is missing cuz i added the keylayout for the device and is not working. but you can remap any keyboard keylayout to work as joystic XD.
Updated GamePads section.
USB HUB with OTG added.
Very nice, I tryed, and it works like a charm. I could use a keyboard and mouse runing Ubuntu 15.10 on CHROOT

Dual OTG cable for PC and keyboard: will this work?

Hi guys,
due to a the touchscreen no loger working I need to connect my Moto X Style simultaneusy to:
My Windows PC (ADB)
External keyboard (OTG)
So I basically need two USB input (one for PC, one for the keyboard) and one microUSB out to the phone.
I found this:
Before I pull the trigger, I'd like to know: will it work? I'm hesitant because I already tried with a "self-powered desktop USB hub" connected to a simple OTG cable and it didn't work (the keyboard work, but the PC doesn't see the phone).
Thanks!
Well, I connected a wireless keyboard with touchpad with the OTG cable and it worked both things, I don't know if your mouse and keyboard are wired and if they draw too much power to the phone, I connected once a portable HDD via otg and it worked, but for a minute or two, it drawed too much power...
I don't think you can have two usb host devices connected to each other (the phone and the pc). if it was a keyboard and mouse that would work.

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