Questions for the owners - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As i understood some people have already received their Nexus 10 but it seems that, at least here in XDA, they didn't share too many informations.
What is your initial impression with the device?
How is the screen compared with the Ipad retina display?
Have you found some bug or any massive lag during streaming full hd movies?
Build quality and ergonomy?
Thanks in advance!

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[INFO] Asus transformer tablet's reviews on amazon!

For the most part, the transformer tablet has been getting excellent reviews on amazon:
Asus eee pad transformer tablet reviews
However, there will always be haters, like someone wrote:
-Construction of the device not as good as the Xoom or Ipad 2 (there is some creaking)
-back light bleeding
-Tegra 2's video playback limitations (the device cannot playback high profile video 720p and up, which almost everybody uses)
*what this means is the your are going to be spending many hours encoding your high profile video to baseline profile to work on this device. Not only is it time consuming, but baseline profile will increase the file size up the 4x
-at the moment flash video playback stutters whenever playing anything HD
-app selection is not as great as Ipad at the moment
I have the tablet (two of them) and do not have any of the issues above... sure there are issues with the HQ video play back but that is not the fault of the tegra2 but the OS which I'm told has been fixed in latest release?
All of those issues have been discussed on this very board, so he's not just pulling stuff out of his ass.
Some of those can be fixed in future updates, but there's no guarantee. And until Google releases the Honeycomb source (which I'm really hoping they do, and soon!) it will be very hard for the community to fix software issues that exist outside the kernel.
Edit: Should say that despite those listed issues, I'm still really wanting to get this tablet. I possibly have too much faith in Google & Asus though.
I have no creaking, and no light bleed - maybe I'm just lucky, dunno.
As for the playback limitations, it's true... but who in his right mind would want to watch a 1080p movie on a 10-inch tablet?
I have slight creaking only in one spot.
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PublicJohnDoe said:
As for the playback limitations, it's true... but who in his right mind would want to watch a 1080p movie on a 10-inch tablet?
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Lots of people, actually.
The issue isn't about resolution but convenience. The Transformer can never show 1080p content at full resolution (at least not without HDMI out) because the resolution on the thing is only 1280x800, which is fine for a 10" tablet. The people asking for 1080p support know that, they aren't asking for the device to do the impossible, they just want it to be able to play their 1080p content while downrezzing to 1280x800 in realtime so they don't have to spend time transcoding 1080p content they already have (because they watch it on their big TV or computer screen).
A device where you can just copy/stream your existing 1080p content over with no transcoding and watch it at full speed is very compelling and many people would love a tablet capable of doing this, myself included. As it stands right now, the Transformer is not such a tablet.
Of course, the actual issue here is Nvidia and Google's, not Asus's, but most end consumers don't know that (nor should they be expected to).
I love my Transformer and use it all the time and the pros outweigh the cons by a lot so I personally wouldn't bother nicking it in reviews the way some people are, but nothing mentioned in the OP is really incorrect. Mine doesn't have creaking or light bleed issues, but it does have an annoying-sized dust spot under the glass that it came with out of the box so I'm willing to believe they are letting some things slip in QA because of their supply limitations and so when people complain about those other things, I believe they are telling the truth even if my device doesn't have those issues... I doubt everyone else's Transformer has a dust bunny under their glass, but mine sure does. The other issues (problems with video playback and app selection) are outside of Asus' control, but still valid issues.
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Lots of people, actually.
Of course, the actual issue here is Nvidia and Google's, not Asus's, but most end consumers don't know that (nor should they be expected to).
I love my Transformer and use it all the time and the pros outweigh the cons by a lot so I personally wouldn't bother nicking it in reviews the way some people are, but nothing mentioned in the OP is really incorrect. Mine doesn't have creaking or light bleed issues, but it does have an annoying-sized dust spot under the glass that it came with out of the box so I'm willing to believe they are letting some things slip in QA because of their supply limitations and so when people complain about those other things, I believe they are telling the truth even if my device doesn't have those issues... I doubt everyone else's Transformer has a dust bunny under their glass, but mine sure does. The other issues (problems with video playback and app selection) are outside of Asus' control, but still valid issues.
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Exact same thing. No creaking or light bleed but I do have some dust under the screen in one spot and it is a tad annoying sometimes.
PublicJohnDoe said:
As for the playback limitations, it's true... but who in his right mind would want to watch a 1080p movie on a 10-inch tablet?
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Why is this question even asked? Isn't that obvious that many people would want to connect the tablet to a TV and use it for watching 1080p movies through HDMI? And why are you suddenly a hater when you list all the problems you have with the device in a review? I think it's a very useful list for everyone who wants to buy a Trasnformer. I find that the so called "haters" write most useful reviews.
dotpro said:
For the most part, the transformer tablet has been getting excellent reviews on amazon:
Asus eee pad transformer tablet reviews
However, there will always be haters, like someone wrote:
-Construction of the device not as good as the Xoom or Ipad 2 (there is some creaking)
-back light bleeding
-Tegra 2's video playback limitations (the device cannot playback high profile video 720p and up, which almost everybody uses)
*what this means is the your are going to be spending many hours encoding your high profile video to baseline profile to work on this device. Not only is it time consuming, but baseline profile will increase the file size up the 4x
-at the moment flash video playback stutters whenever playing anything HD
-app selection is not as great as Ipad at the moment
I have the tablet (two of them) and do not have any of the issues above... sure there are issues with the HQ video play back but that is not the fault of the tegra2 but the OS which I'm told has been fixed in latest release?
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I am being told video lag was fixed on latest update
I just looked at the review on Amazon and the guy did a pretty good job. He listed not only bad things about Transformer like OP would lead us to believe but also the good ones. Here is the review: http://www.amazon.com/review/R344X0QWNRS2H7/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R344X0QWNRS2H7
Vigneshd said:
Exact same thing. No creaking or light bleed but I do have some dust under the screen in one spot and it is a tad annoying sometimes.
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Dust under the screen would be a deal breaker for me.
I would exchange it until they get it right.
I can understand a used tablet having issues but a brand new tablet should be flawless.
I should be getting mine next week and will be looking for any of the defects listed on this forum.
If we accept poor quality control, we are telling the manufacturer we have low standards and they will not improve the quality.
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Dust under the screen would be a deal breaker for me.
I would exchange it until they get it right.
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Normally I'd agree with you but there are no units in stock to do exchanges for.
I'm sure I could send the unit into ASUS directly as an RMA, but then that means not having access to the tablet for weeks, months... who knows? So for now I'm just trying to live with it.
dotpro said:
For the most part, the transformer tablet has been getting excellent reviews on amazon:
Asus eee pad transformer tablet reviews
However, there will always be haters, like someone wrote:
-Construction of the device not as good as the Xoom or Ipad 2 (there is some creaking)
-back light bleeding
-Tegra 2's video playback limitations (the device cannot playback high profile video 720p and up, which almost everybody uses)
*what this means is the your are going to be spending many hours encoding your high profile video to baseline profile to work on this device. Not only is it time consuming, but baseline profile will increase the file size up the 4x
-at the moment flash video playback stutters whenever playing anything HD
-app selection is not as great as Ipad at the moment
I have the tablet (two of them) and do not have any of the issues above... sure there are issues with the HQ video play back but that is not the fault of the tegra2 but the OS which I'm told has been fixed in latest release?
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Sorry, but that is not a hater, but someone with his/her own personal opinion.
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Sorry, but that is not a hater, but someone with his/her own personal opinion.
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Yea, I posted my review with my bricking experience and it is being downvoted. Fanbois will be fanbois, no matter the platform.
Surprised they haven't told you to JUST BUY AN IPAD!!!! That is also a standard response when you raise any questions about Honeycomb or the tablets it runs on. The OS is not going to get any better if we just accept its problems without complaint.
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I doubt everyone else's Transformer has a dust bunny under their glass, but mine sure does. The other issues (problems with video playback and app selection) are outside of Asus' control, but still valid issues.
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I am sorry to hear about the dust under the screen - that would annoy me, especially when reading a book. This may not help but have you tried getting a plastic comb really staticky and moving it above the spot to see if you can move the dust speck out of the way? I seem to recall doing this to an old watch with a similar problem but, of course, this may not be as simple.

Anyone want a Nexus 7 and iPad 3 comparison video?

Hey guys. I purchased one of the new iPad's with the retina display, as well as a 16GB Nexus 7 tablet. Since I see so much discussion and comparison between the two in this forum, I wanted to ask if you guys would be interested in a comparison video between the two units. If yes, then I can make the video today and have it up on YouTube by tonight or tomorrow.
Please let me know exactly what you would like to see compared between the two units as well, so I can include it in the comparison. For example, I could include a comparison for viewing text/books in the Kindle application, or a 1080p YouTube video comparison. I could also do viewing angles, physical size/weight, etc.
Let me know if you guys are interested in this sort of thing. If it's already been done hundreds of times you can let me as well.
I'll try and include as many of your suggestions for comparison in the video, as long as they don't include illegal activities and destruction of the units!

[Q] Poor Video Quality?

I just received my Google Nexus 10 yesterday. After reading all the great reviews about the video quality I must admit I was shocked how poor it was. Don't get me wrong, it isn't awful by any stretch. The detail is certainly there and there is so much detail it might actually be detriment to the product because I can pick up compression artifacts and pixelization I didn't even know was there on some of my videos. However, this really leads in to what I think the source of the problem is on this device, that is, the black level. The first video I took a look at was Ice Age since it came with the N10. If black level is off on animations they can look washed out and it certainly did in this case. My projector on a 100" screen could actually reflect a better image in my opinion. Moving over to other videos like a 1080p MKV of Battleship displayed some improvement, but the poor black levels were still there. Oh, and I should mention this was with using MX Player.
So, are others seeing something similar? Again, I'm not trying to really downplay the image entirely because the detail is certainly there, but again, I'm disappointed by the black level. Is there possibly a way to adjust it that I'm not aware of? All I can seemingly find is Brightness and that doesn't do enough. Perhaps a gamma control would help? Any guidance from others is appreciated.
U get ice age free with N10?
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verusevo said:
U get ice age free with N10?
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Yes.
2 posts? Troll?
Techie2012 said:
2 posts? Troll?
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Thanks for the welcome. Did people say the same about you when you had 2 posts? Trust me, your accusation is utterly ridiculous. This is simply my first Android device and this was my initial impression. I hoped that there might be some kind of workaround or fix so I simply did a Google search for a Nexus 10 forum and wound up here. As I allued to in my initial post there are plenty of things I like about the device and black level might not be a deal killer, but if there was a way to resolve it, why not pursue it?
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2 posts? Troll?
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Only 245 posts and a member since February of this year? You must clearly have very little to contribute anywhere since you don't have at least a 1k post count or year+ membership (sarcasm btw; post count and join dates means absolutely nothing in determining a person's status lol)
I believe a few others have mentioned black levels not being optimal on the N10. I myself don't really see it as a problem, but then again I rarely watch videos. I believe Contrast itself might be a better option to modify over Brightness, but I'm pretty sure Contrast isn't adjustable currently.
Possibly when Kernel development matures enough, we may be able to modify screen settings, but I don't think we're there quite yet. Maybe some video players might have an option for adjustments?
Those frequenting here have varying social skills. Be tolerant.
Suggest posting some pics of screen's black level, alongside another device used as a baseline. A thousand words and all that.
Also suggest searching Play store for "display settings" and try out the various widget/apps available.
That's seriously put me off buying this tablet now.
A poor black level can ruin video quality. I know this because my laptops black level is shocking bad, picture below.
Now I might either get a Note 10.1 or wait for something with a high res screen and a good black level.
Haha you guys are funny.
Anyway back to the original question, this device has a LCD screen, and like most LCD TVs, the black is not as black as you'd like or you would see on a PlasmaTV or Amoled screen.
If black levels are highly important to you, i'm sorry to say you bought the wrong device.
Ok, so I took a previous poster's advice and got a hold of an iPad3 with Retina Display and compared it against the N10. The difference was not as significant as I thought it might be. Ultimately, I didn't think either producing razor sharp images with inky blacks and that is because they don't my own HDTV's (LED) in my home along with my home theater projector crush both devices. Why? Well, first, I wasn't aware that the contrast ratio was so poor on all the tablet devices. Most of my other products have something like a 50,000:1 contrast ratio whereas the tablets are around 1000:1, a very big difference. Also, I'm accustomed to watching BluRays on those displays. BluRay quality just doesn't seem to exist on these tablets right now. So was I expecting too much from the N10? Yes.
Spending some time with both devices side-by-side allowed me to sort of critique both on my own terms and decide which one I like best. I'm probably an atypical user so my opinions here are my own and I don't expect others to find the same items valuable.
1. Display - the iPad wins here, but not by as much as I might have thought. Whites are more warm and not as bright on the N10 when compared to the iPad. Blacks are also better on the iPad, but I expected it to be a dramatic difference. It wasn't. I've included some images to this post that will help you see the difference a bit more. There are some images where the difference looks very pronounced, but that is the digital camera really exposing the faults of the N10 and making them appear more significant. I wouldn't say that is the case in reality. Also, something you'll notice from the images is the light leak. It is there on the N10, but not on the iPad. Too bad Samsung couldn't have done a better job here. It would have made it appear as a more quality product.
2. Form Factor - I find the form factor of the iPad better than the N10. I like to use portrait mode more often than most I think and the iPad gives you more space to work from horizontally when doing so. This makes web browsing much easier and I actually feel more cramped using the N10 to browse via landscape. I would MUCH prefer the N10 to have the iPad's shape.
3. Weight - I would have never thought 50 grams or whatever it is would make a difference, but to me it does and the N10 is a clear winner here. After handling both devices for some time I simply enjoyed holding the N10 more. The lightness made for a more enjoyable experience.
4. Rubber Backing - When I saw on this on the N10 I thought it was sort of a gimmick, but I really like it. Again, it just seems to feel more comfortable holding it.
5. Heat - I have no idea why, but the back of the iPad got pretty hot while using it. The N10 had some slight warmth, but ever since I've used it it has stayed relatively cool.
6. Speakers - The N10 really crushes the iPad here. The front two speakers are awesome and can push out good volume. Going back to the iPad with its rear mono speaker almost feels silly in comparison.
7. Web Browsing - The winner here is the iPad. Pages came up more quickly, they are easier to scroll through (only slightly), and are displayed better. In portrait mode the clear winner is the iPad since you have more horizontal space to work with, something I like.
8. Off-axis viewing - Not that you ever really need this because tablets are really made for a one person audience to be looking at the device head-on, but I did notice it. For whatever reason the iPad had a better image once you move off-axis from the device. The N10 was washed out more quickly as you moved off-axis.
9. Bugs - Oh man, Jelly Bean has them. I have essentially the base image on the N10 and I've already seen the battery information incorrect (stuck), freezes, my folders just disappearing after the device becoming frozen, and some other very quirky things. The iPad in comparison was stable. The iPad just feels a bit like driving a Lexus. It doesn't really do much to excite you, but it does what it is designed to do and does it well. The N10 is probably more like a BMW X6. Is it a sports car or an SUV? No one really knows. It does some things that are really neat, but in other categories it sort of falls apart. Just my own silly analogy.
So which will I keep. Based on all the criteria above I would say it is very close and probably a tie in my mind, but I'm leaning toward the N10. I'm not sure why, but I struggle a great deal with going to a closed environment like the iPad is. It feels boring to me and I just think I might enjoy tinkering with the N10 more. If I give it more thought I might change my mind, but for the moment this is where my head is.
I hope all this might help someone. If anyone has any questions about the comparison or the images please feel free to ask.
A lot people seem to crank the brightness even when they don't need it. The N10 with the back light turned up definitely has poor black levels but it's actually pretty decent when below 40%(more comfortable to view also)
I agree. I'm totally unimpressed by the video quality of Nexus 10. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here, but my older Galaxy Tab 2 P3100 had much better video quality than this. The colors are totally messed up and the it just seems bland and boring.
Frankly, I don't think this is an iPad killer in anyway, and I'm not an apple fanboy either. I had to download apps just to get the Volume to a reasonable level eventhough it has stereo. Wow, the ipad claims much less but delivers more, Nexus 10 claims tall but falls short.
Thinking about getting back the iPad 4 if the Nexus doesn't grow on me. Sorry, Nexus. Android has failed you :crying:
JPW1 said:
Most of my other products have something like a 50,000:1 contrast ratio whereas the tablets are around 1000:1, a very big difference.
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The 50,000:1 contrast ratio is actually dynamic contrast ratio. How dark the screen is at it's lowest brightness and how bright the screen is at it's highest brightness. It's really just a marketing gimmick.
The real static contrast ratio could be anywhere between 1000-5000:1. Not a huge difference at all.
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Looking at your screenshots I can definitely say you have the brightness set waaaayyy to high on the Nexus 10. Turn it down and the picture will be drastically better.
And for the other little problems you have to wait some time. Most of them will be gone with the first good custom roms/kernels. The device is still brand new.
I tried both the Transformers and Ice Age films streaming from google play, and I thought the video was pretty poor. Wifi signal was strong.
Video quality from all the streaming services I've used on Android have relatively poor quality. If you are attempting to benchmark the device's fidelity then I suggest making a high bit rate rip of a Blu-Ray
The high bit rate 1080p and 1440p videos I've seen look pretty great, but I agree videos from streaming services look pretty awful in terms of both blurriness and contrast.
Also, the hardware decoders like most devices do not have as high of picture quality as some software decoder. For instance, for the same video the hw decoder will look softer than the sw decoder in MX Player

[Q] Why is the screen resolution so high?

Honestly, is it really needed?
Wouldn't a 1080p 16:9 screen offer better performance (less work for the GPU), better battery life and still be good enough to browse the web and watch full HD videos?
In every video of the Nexus 10 I've seen, it never looks quite as smooth as the Nexus 4 and 7 do
The Nexus 10 was going up against Apple's Retina display on iPads, which also boast a ridiculous resolution I believe. I could be wrong, but I believe the Nexus 10 has better numbers for both PPI and Resolution.
Yes, @espionage724, it is higher on both counts. It also operates extremely smoothly—it is one of the fastest Android tablets I've ever used, including the Nexus 7. The GPU won't be as much as a problem with Android 4.3, either. Lots of optimizations coming there! See "Android Graphics Performance" on the Android Developers Channel.
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I think its to high for now and i preffered much better quality overall ( deeper blacks , better color control , more little or not at all light bleeding, more slim and more battery life ) vs extra ultra mega extrem orgasmic number of pixels .
I need the best resolution , the best screen but only if the device can support it .
Nexus 10 could have done better but i think next nexus will be a Big Bang ..
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And why did you buy it? I agree with your arguments. But if screen resolution isn't that important to you, maybe there would have been better choices for you to make. I own this tablet since a few days and am completly happy with it. Though I'm lookin forward to the improvements somebody mentioned above for Android 4.3 when can we expect it for nexus devices?
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The resolution looks and works great with games, though, but I'm sure a few (Real Racer 3) suffer for it, due to the ridiculous resolution.
Nexus devices has always been about pushing the hardware development and possibilities of devices. My galaxy nexus was the first phone with 720p HD display.
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The resolution looks and works great with games, though, but I'm sure a few (Real Racer 3) suffer for it, due to the ridiculous resolution.
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RR3 suffers from lack of optimization, it doesn't even run at full resolution, more like 50% or less.
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RR3 suffers from lack of optimization, it doesn't even run at full resolution, more like 50% or less.
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Which is a shame. It looks GORGEOUS when forced to higher details, or when run on the Ouya, but I really wish EA had spent more time on it.
LooieENG said:
Honestly, is it really needed?
Wouldn't a 1080p 16:9 screen offer better performance (less work for the GPU), better battery life and still be good enough to browse the web and watch full HD videos?
In every video of the Nexus 10 I've seen, it never looks quite as smooth as the Nexus 4 and 7 do
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You raise some valid concerns. It all depends if you think the ultra-sharp resolution is worth it. I'm a bit of a videophile and I love how sharp it is, but it does eat into battery life, as you say. I only use it at home, so battery life is not a concern for me.
You are right that 1080p is a much better resolution for most users, which is why no other Android tablet uses such a high resolution. There are some upcoming high-res tablets that have just been announced recently, but nothing else on the market now. Compare that to the Retina iPad, which was available eight months earlier and has sold tens of millions, while estimates are that the Nexus 10 probably still hasn't sold 1 million.
As espionage724 and Herman76 say, google was just looking to push the market forward and respond to the Retina iPad, an effort that has largely failed, though for the valid reasons that you list. Even the Retina iPad had many complaints about overheating and power draw, even though iOS is a more power-efficient OS than Android. Google probably doesn't really care how well the Nexus 10 sells, it's just a tech demo for them, to push others to match the iPad.
For me, it's not really an issue of video/picture quality at all-- above 720p/1080p, it's hard for me to pick out the difference. But for text, that extra bit of crispness makes a huge difference for me. I mainly consume textual content on my devices, and the difference between the Nexus 10 and ASUS Transformer Pad is enormous on this front. Videos? Either or will work for me.
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For me, it's not really an issue of video/picture quality at all-- above 720p/1080p, it's hard for me to pick out the difference. But for text, that extra bit of crispness makes a huge difference for me. I mainly consume textual content on my devices, and the difference between the Nexus 10 and ASUS Transformer Pad is enormous on this front. Videos? Either or will work for me.
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If you're talking about the Transformer Pad TF300T, as your signature seems to indicate, that's because it has a resolution of 1280 X 800, for a PPI of 149. That's a big difference with the Nexus 10's PPI of 300. A 1080p tablet like we're talking about, for example, the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T with a resolution of 1920 X 1200 at 224 PPI, is not going to show as much of a difference, since the PPI is about 70% of the Nexus 10, instead of 50% with your TF300T.
1080p is probably completely overkill for a smartphone, but it may be the perfect resolution for a tablet, with current technology.
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If you're talking about the Transformer Pad TF300T, as your signature seems to indicate, that's because it has a resolution of 1280 X 800, for a PPI of 149. That's a big difference with the Nexus 10's PPI of 300. A 1080p tablet like we're talking about, for example, the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T with a resolution of 1920 X 1200 at 224 PPI, is not going to show as much of a difference, since the PPI is about 70% of the Nexus 10, instead of 50% with your TF300T.
1080p is probably completely overkill for a smartphone, but it may be the perfect resolution for a tablet, with current technology.
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I'm well aware, thanks. With many tablets still being sold with WXGA screens, it becomes a frustrating chore at times, particularly as many people still do not know the difference between full HD and HD.
In any event, 720p to 1080p is noticeable for me in text rendering, and depending on your screen technology of choice (SAMOLED, PenTile, etc.), it can make a perceptible difference.
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In any event, 720p to 1080p is noticeable for me in text rendering, and depending on your screen technology of choice (SAMOLED, PenTile, etc.), it can make a perceptible difference.
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Right, my point is whether you'd be able to tell the difference for the jump from 1080p to 1600p, which is what's on the Nexus 10. My Zenbook Prime ultrabook has a 13" 1080p screen and the text is plenty sharp. We're debating whether anything beyond 1080p is overkill for a 10" tablet, given that you won't find any video beyond 1080p and you probably won't notice any difference in text, when making the jump to 1600p.
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Right, my point is whether you'd be able to tell the difference for the jump from 1080p to 1600p, which is what's on the Nexus 10. My Zenbook Prime ultrabook has a 13" 1080p screen and the text is plenty sharp. We're debating whether anything beyond 1080p is overkill for a 10" tablet, given that you won't find any video beyond 1080p and you probably won't notice any difference in text, when making the jump to 1600p.
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It comes down to text, and it's not really much of a "debate"-- personally, I can make out the difference on a 10" panel, so the resolution bump is good for me, especially over longer periods of time. I'd easily submit though that that varies from user to user, and even then from one use case to another (i.e. extended reading for novels and books/reports, or well-spaced publications).
Nope that wrong. It was the rezound from HTC but I get your general point.
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Nope that wrong. It was the rezound from HTC but I get your general point.
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Could you clarify what exactly you're saying was "wrong"/who you're actually responding to?
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Could you clarify what exactly you're saying was "wrong"/who you're actually responding to?
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A bit late, but I'm pretty sure he was talking about the poster who stated that his Galaxy Nexus was the first 720p phone on the first page of this thread.
LooieENG said:
Honestly, is it really needed?
Wouldn't a 1080p 16:9 screen offer better performance (less work for the GPU), better battery life and still be good enough to browse the web and watch full HD videos?
In every video of the Nexus 10 I've seen, it never looks quite as smooth as the Nexus 4 and 7 do
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because it's fit to 320dpi
a lot of apps can easily be revised to a tablet UI
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Nope that wrong. It was the rezound from HTC but I get your general point.
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Talking about the first 720p being the S3. He is correct the Rezound was the first 720p phone by several weeks also it was smaller than the s3 so very high dpi. I had one. The reason I bought the Nexus 10 was the screen resolution. There were already plenty of 10" tablets with a 1080p screen.
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Coming from a Nexus 6P

Hey guys,
Coming from a nexus 6P who's battery issues finally forced me to jump ship. Really wanted the Pixel 2 but I buy phones unlocked and that's breaking the bank. Not a novice here but not a coder... noticing a dealbreaker in this Galaxy S8 though: video quality on Netflix and Hulu. (Amazon Video and YouTube seem to fare better)
Read the forums, saw some of the issues, and so far the only thing I read is that the app has to be recoded every update, manually? The quality difference in video between my Nexus 6P is night and day. I just can't accept the washed out colors and basic detail.
I've tried tweaking the display settings. Hoped there would be more options to enhance saturation but nothing. Any recommendations? Is there a forum where a current, usable APK lives? I'm even cool with one of the old ones if it still works but I had trouble installing it. Not even sure if an APK sideload is in order since most of the video apps just look washed out.
I thought I checked everything when deciding on the Galaxy S8 but I've been a bit disappointed in my 2 hours playing with it. Hope I'm just doing something wrong.
are you taking about HDR10 or 4K, HD?

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