Well, I decided to take the plunge. I have upgraded and moved on to the Nexus 10. This tablet has been good to me for the last 18 months, but I don't want to rely on rooting to have the latest software and sometimes there's just a little bit of lag that's upsetting. And I'm just not a fan of TouchWiz.
Tablets aren't as important to me as the smartphone that I am carrying, but I think this upgrade will last me a long long time. So it was worth it.
I haven't heard or read about many people here talking about the Nexus 10 yet*. Should I assume that everyone is just content with the Galaxy Tab 10.1? How much longer do you guys see yourself with it?
* Edit: let me clarify since this was not understood. Many forums talk about the "next" device to move on to. For example, the Galaxy Nexus forum had lots of talk going on about "should I upgrade to the Nexus 4?" There really was no 10" Nexus tablet, and it seems our device (10.1) is the logical precursor (Grandparent?) to the Nexus 10, which seems to be a GTab 2 10.1 on steroids.
Edit #2: See my post on page two with a full comparison now that I have both devices.
Eddog4DROID said:
Well, I decided to take the plunge. I have upgraded and moved on to the Nexus 10. This tablet has been good to me for the last 18 months, but I don't want to rely on rooting to have the latest software and sometimes there's just a little bit of lag that's upsetting. And I'm just not a fan of TouchWiz.
Tablets aren't as important to me as the smartphone that I am carrying, but I think this upgrade will last me a long long time. So it was worth it.
I haven't heard or read about many people here talking about the Nexus 10 yet. Should I assume that everyone is just content with the Galaxy Tab? How much longer do you guys see yourself with it?
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Why do not you go to Nexus 10 forum? Here is galaxy tab forum, of cause people are talking about galaxy tab only.
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Why do not you go to Nexus 10 forum? Here is galaxy tab forum, of cause people are talking about galaxy tab only.
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It was a little bit of "I got my brand new toy", please understand him...
But the OP was right... there are not so many Nexus 10 users here.... in the Galaxy Tab forum.
Sorry, for being off topic... but I don't see the topic.
How do you guys not understand the original post. I am specifically asking Galaxy Tab users, not users of any other device, if they plan on upgrading.
The Galaxy Tab has now been around for a long time. It seems this might be the next logical step for some of you. Or does the Galaxy Tab do everything you need still?
I really only got the Nexus 10 after the Nexus 4 was sold out and I wanted to walk away with something. But I'm still happy about the upgrade. Though I could have used the tab quite a bit longer.
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How do you guys not understand the original post. I am specifically asking Galaxy Tab users, not users of any other device, if they plan on upgrading.
The Galaxy Tab has now been around for a long time. It seems this might be the next logical step for some of you. Or does the Galaxy Tab do everything you need still?
I really only got the Nexus 10 after the Nexus 4 was sold out and I wanted to walk away with something. But I'm still happy about the upgrade. Though I could have used the tab quite a bit longer.
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Just ignore it.. I understood your post just fine.
To answer your post. I moved on to the N7.. I purchased my 16GB version then two weeks later the 32GB was released and I exchanged it out. I haven't looked back since.. My Galaxy Tab sits on my TV stand and has been there for weeks now with an uptime of 445 hrs (just checked) and a screen on time of 5 minutes.. It's literally a paperweight. I tried to use the tab as just an e-reader but.. Seriously.. The Tab 10.1 sucks.. Once you use a real tablet on real hardware that isn't crippled and under-performing the flaws, lag, stuttering and slowness we already knew about the Galaxy Tab 10.1 are just heightened to the point you want to smash it.
So yes.. I moved on. I would buy the Nexus 10 if I had a need for a 10 inch but after using the N7.. I no longer want a 10 inch tablet.. For me the 7inch form factor is perfect.
BTW Congrats on your purchase and welcome to the Nexus family! Home of prompt updates straight from Google and pure AOSP support right out of the gate.. You'll never buy a non-Nexus device again
Eddog4DROID said:
Well, I decided to take the plunge. I have upgraded and moved on to the Nexus 10. This tablet has been good to me for the last 18 months, but I don't want to rely on rooting to have the latest software and sometimes there's just a little bit of lag that's upsetting. And I'm just not a fan of TouchWiz.
Tablets aren't as important to me as the smartphone that I am carrying, but I think this upgrade will last me a long long time. So it was worth it.
I haven't heard or read about many people here talking about the Nexus 10 yet. Should I assume that everyone is just content with the Galaxy Tab? How much longer do you guys see yourself with it?
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I'm not yet satisfied with the Nexus 10, perhaps I'll go for google's next 10inch tablet, though I might get a N7 before then, but I think I'd miss the larger sceen (a more likely scenario is that somebody else in the household would be the primary user)
P.S. Actually, maybe I would get it if I wasn't getting the N⁴, but two new devices is probably)too much for me atm, and (for me) the N10 definitely doesn't justify it.
Well I thank the last two users for "getting" it. That's all I was asking for, the perspective of 10.1 users.
To me the N10 advantages over the 10.1 are:
AOSP - No Touchwiz! (or Rooting needed)
Prompt Updates
Resolution makes reading a joy
Lag free on the A15 Cortex.
Doesn't look like an iPad
Lightweight but apparently a very sturdy, industrial design
If I DID choose to root and ROM, a bigger community because it's a Nexus(?)
Standard MicroUSB Charging connection
These things are a wash:
Cameras? Meh. Never use them anyway.
Battery life? I've never had any opinion of the 10.1's battery life. It's not a smartphone that I am constantly using so it last me several days in-between charges. I'm sure the N10 will be the same.
Design and looks: The 10.1 probably does look better? Though, more Appleish. So it's about even.
I honestly wanted to find more reasons why keeping the 10.1 makes sense. And as far as a point-by-point argument, the Nexus 10 wins hands down. But that doesn't really matter because it depends on how you are using a tablet. To me, a tablet is always secondary to my smartphone. I use it far less. The Browser, Email, Google Reader, scan the news apps. That's mostly it. I don't play games. I don't video chat. So really, even though I think the Nexus 10 is far superior, the 10.1 did most of what I wanted just fine. So I can't blame anyone for keeping the 10.1 (unless you're still using it on Stock TouchWiz 4.0, where it is soo laggy, etc? My Jelly Bean ROM has been fantastic!). If you don't like to root to "fix" things, but you are a heavy tablet user, than I'm thinking you probably are looking to upgrade--which goes back to the original question: Is the Nexus 10 good enough? I guess I'll see in a couple days... I'll probably post back some comparisons later.
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To me, a tablet is always secondary to my smartphone. I use it far less. The Browser, Email, Google Reader, scan the news apps. That's mostly it. I don't play games. I don't video chat. So really, even though I think the Nexus 10 is far superior, the 10.1 did most of what I wanted just fine. So I can't blame anyone for keeping the 10.1 (unless you're still using it on Stock TouchWiz 4.0, where it is soo laggy, etc? My Jelly Bean ROM has been fantastic!). If you don't like to root to "fix" things, but you are a heavy tablet user, than I'm thinking you probably are looking to upgrade--which goes back to the original question: Is the Nexus 10 good enough? I guess I'll see in a couple days... I'll probably post back some comparisons later.
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This.. This is why I am no longer interested in a 10inch.
Before I had my N7 as you said my phone would be my go to device and my Tab was second fiddle.. It was big, not very portable and kind of awkward to use in most circumstances unless you were just flipping through a book or something. Now.. Ever since I got my Nexus 7.. My phone is second fiddle.. The N7 form factor is like a phone on steroids.. Larger enough to make reading, gaming, app use and browsing much easier but small enough where it doesn't feel like you're Fred Flintstone holding a slab in your hands either.
This is ultimately the reason my Galaxy Tab has fall to the way side entirely and also my phone.. The 7 inch form factor is the perfect combination between phone and tablet..
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I never needed a tablet but I liked my TAB (especially since ICS). But the Nexus 7 really hit the spot: now I feel I DO need to have a tablet around. For me (old eyes and all), the 10 inch screen is a bit better for classic WEB browsing (and a lot better as a remote to my PCs), but the format and weight of the N7 makes it the "go to" device for anything but "work stuff".
I thought a lot about the N10 these past couple of weeks, but in the end I passed (and I still have the TAB: not worth the hassle of selling at this point; I'll use it intermittently until I find a potential Android recruit to recycle it to). I think I may wait for the Nexus 8 (lighter, much thinner bezel, high ppi... and able to replace any and all of my remotes).
P.-S. --- The N7 fits in the pockets of my hoodies: no X10 would!
I have a wifi tab 10.1, a 4G tab 7.7, and a GS3.
I use the 7.7 and GS3 far more than I use the 10.1. Probably use the 7.7 the most. It's portability and the 4G give it an advantage over the 10.1 while the larger screen gives it an advantage over the GS3. I'd love to get a N10, but it's more because I love gadgets than any real need for it. I'd love the S Pen functionality of the Note 10.1, but wish it was quad core... And obviously the N10 doesn't have this. So the primary draw of the N10 is the display and the prompt updates since it's a reference device.
If I had the money, I'd probably get a N10...though Engadget wasn't terribly impressed by it. I may try to get my hands on a Note 10.1 cuz the S Pen functionality would make it a good tool for work.
Never been impressed by the N7. The screen feels narrow and its fat/heavy. I'll happily exchange the quad-core processor for the thin, light design and AMOLED screen of the tab 7.7.
LurkSkywalker said:
I never needed a tablet but I liked my TAB (especially since ICS). But the Nexus 7 really hit the spot: now I feel I DO need to have a tablet around. For me (old eyes and all), the 10 inch screen is a bit better for classic WEB browsing (and a lot better as a remote to my PCs), but the format and weight of the N7 makes it the "go to" device for anything but "work stuff".
I thought a lot about the N10 these past couple of weeks, but in the end I passed (and I still have the TAB: not worth the hassle of selling at this point; I'll use it intermittently until I find a potential Android recruit to recycle it to). I think I may wait for the Nexus 8 (lighter, much thinner bezel, high ppi... and able to replace any and all of my remotes).
P.-S. --- The N7 fits in the pockets of my hoodies: no X10 would!
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What exactly do you mean by "pocket" here? The two hand thing? If so, how tall are you/what size do you where? I'm not a big person and I've gotten my gt10.1 in there :S
I have been looking at many of the next tablets being offered by most of the companies. The Nexus 10 is tempting, but I DO use the camera for some things, and the 10 inch screen is important to the main function for which I bought a tablet. I tried the 7 inch units and they're just too small for my needs. I use my tablet for a moving-map display and electronic flight-bag while I'm flying. I actually use an app that does a split-screen and shows me charts and flight data at the same time. The 7-inch was just too small for that. I had a Transformer Prime for a while and really liked the display and operational speed, but the lack of a functional wifi and GPS took that out of the picture in a hurry. For the moment, the Tab 10.1 still does the job. But I am looking.
I have used my Nexus 10 all weekend and can now compare it with the G Tab 101.1
GTab 10.1 vs N10
Screen:
N10 pixels/resolution obviously blows the GTab 10.1 away; but it seems like the N10 screen is more washed out compared to the deep colors of the GTab.
Speakers:
Maybe it's my hearing, but the GTab seems to have louder sound
Performance:
Oh my, not even close. The Exynos 5 in the N10 poops on the Tegra 2. FINALLY Android does not have any lag. Whereas the GTab hails from Lag City. (Rooting and Roming obviously helps).
Cameras:
Even? I took pic's, I skyped, saw no difference.
Build quality:
The N10 does not feel like a Samsung device. The GTab feels like a Toy in comparison. Though it feels much lighter (even though the specs say they are closer) so some may prefer that.
Software:
The GTab requires you to root it for decent performance. Or you can have full functionality to go along with lagginess and TouchWiz. The N10 is a Nexus. A full working 4.2. Yes it's new so there are bugs, but thankfully Samsung does not handle updates.
Battery:
More or less even. MAYBE the GTab 10.1 has a slight, slight edge? not sure yet.
Extras:
N10 has an HDMI port I probably will never use. Though it does have a notification light which is really helpful. Neither have SD's. I am fan of the wide bezels on the N10 because my thumb does not cover the screen.
Conclusion:
I feel like the N10 is so much better, but really, the GTab 10.1 did most of what I needed and did it "ok" to "well". The N10 just does it a little quicker. And it's nice to know I don't have to root it to be satisfied. So on those levels it is worth it. Otherwise, if you can not afford it, there is no reason why you need to be an early adopter. I think many GTab 10.1 users may end up getting the Nexus 7 instead as that is become standard for many hard core Android users. If you watch tons of videos, then the N10 is highly recommended. If you can not tolerate TouchWiz and rather not mod the device, also get the N10. For everyone else? No rush.
The N10 is 1.5 years newer.. It should smoke the 10.1
I'm dying to replace the tab with a new device, before the N10 I was considering the Asus TF700 but I'll only jump ship when one of them deliver a 3G option, I seriously don't get why the don't release mobile data versions in tandem of Wi-Fi only option.
But I suspect and hope Google bring it out soon, I don't think Asus will do now, not now the infinity has been out for so long.
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II
I will try to present a slightly different view. Before I was forced to get my Samsung 10.1, I had a 10.1v which I truly think is a much better device than the plain 10.1. Eventually I will cannibalize my 10.1 to get my 10.1v working again.
My new tablet has to have the following features: 10" screen, 3G, quad-core and preferably a pen too. Such a device is still some ways from hitting the market and until such a time, I guess I'm content with my 10.1.
I have a 4.7" phone so there is little point for me getting a less than 10" tablet. Call it due to my older eyes but for me 10" is a very comfortable size, I don't even miss my notebook as I also have a Logitech BT keyboard. I have no problems carrying the tablet. I can understand that it comes down to a personal choice where screen size is concerned, for me the big screen just makes it easier to work with the device.
I did root my tab as it makes me uncomfortable that I can't even make a decent backup without a root. If I can put JB on my 10.1, it would definitely delay a new device
I really want to get the Nexus 10, but I currently only use my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for infrequent browsing and even less frequent Angry Birds Star Wars. I may get the Note 10.1 for my wife because she really wants the stylus---oops, I mean the S-Pen.
If Google adds a native Android feature allowing two apps to run side-by-side (like the Note, but implemented better), I'd buy the Nexus 10 tomorrow.
For now, I'll keep puttng up with the mild lag of the GTab 10.1.
I am buying a Nexus10 32Gb (it should arrive Monday) but I also have been very happy with my 10.1 GT-7510 (aka p4wifi). I have been running the following JellyBean 4.1.2 ROM for almost 2 weeks now without any problems.
Make a nandroid, then install:
AAcount's TWRP 2.3.2.3: recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
Make another backup with TWRP if you were coming from ClockworkMod (paranoid)
Clean Wipe
triptosyll's unofficial AOKP November 12th Build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953915
Formula84's JZ054K Gapps: http://goo.im/devs/Formula84/gapps-jb-20121012-4.1.2-JZO54K
Reboot, set everything up (I use Titanium Backup Pro)
then install AAccount's A1 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
Go into AOKP performance tab and select 1.6Ghz OC or 1.5Ghz if you're conservative.
Win!!
Install "voodoo sound" sound control panel for amazing audio quality
Install Dice or MX Player with the appropriate Tegra 2 codecs and you'll be able to play virtually any 720p video without lag.
Install Dolphin Browser with Flash and Jetpack for Desktop Browser experience and install Chrome for mobile browser experience.
Everything works great. Google Now works, front and rear cameras work as well. It will take an hour the first time through, but I think you will be super happy with your Tab. This could extend the viable life of the 10.1 for another 6-12 months until the next big thing comes along.
(Of course all of this is at your own risk. It works great for me, but might not work so well for anyone else.)
On the Nexus10 front, I can't believe that anyone would buy a 16Gb tablet! If I have a couple nandroids and a few movies or TV show seasons, I'm well above 16Gb. Right now I have <5Gb free on my GTab10.1 and I only have a few games, 1 season of Breaking Bad and about 3 or 4 hours of music on it. This IMO is "minimum" local storage for a week away from home on a business trip. 5+ hour flights are a drag without copious local data.
I'd love to buy a nexus 10, sadly it's not available in Italy, maybe it never will be
that means my money is going to Asus this time, 299$ for 32Gb plus 3g is the best deal out there in my opinion; that said I'll keep my gtab 10,1 to watch movies in case I'm not satisfied with the 7 inch display.
OK, first impressions on the Nexus10 from someone who's been an Android user since the OG Droid and has had a Galaxy Tab 10.1 Wifi for 16 months.
It is a little bit wider and almost exactly the same height and thickness of the p4wifi
The Nexus10 is heavier, 604g vs 558g on my kitchen scale. Its width makes it seems a bit heavier since it puts more torque on your hand if holding it one handed.
The buttons are in the same orientation as the p4wifi
The buttons on the Nexus10 are slightly further to the left than on the p4. This leads me to accidentally hit the power button more since I'm used to being able to grab the tab by that corner safely
The buttons are lower-profile and seem a bit chintzy compared to the p4
The Nexus10 screen is warmer and a bit "dimmer" than the p4. I think the p4 actually has slightly better contrast. This is a subjective judgement. I'm using automatic brightness on both. Although the stock auto-brightness stinks. I need to get AOKP installed on the Nexus10 and tweak the brightness.
Nexus10 does indeed poop on the p4 from performance perspective. It is like night and day even running the Stock Nexus 10 versus highly overclocked and tweaked p4.
I haven't auditioned the headphone out yet. Will get some high-bitrate music on here and try it out soon.
It looks better in person than in the pictures. I think in the pictures that the roundedness of the Nexus10 looks unattractive, but in person it is fine.
I am very dissappointed with how few accessories have been announced so far. I suppose this isn't surprising, but I would really like a bluetooth keyboard case for it. The Logitech ZAGG case for my p4wifi, of course, doesn't fit at all.
My very cheap "Acase" flip case ALMOST fits. It is very snug due to the extra width. I think with a little Xacto knife action, I'll have a usable but not ideal case. The speaker holes aren't too far from the charging port.
My wife actually prefers the p4 for reading books as the Nexus10 is "too small". At least on Google Play (I haven't played with Kindle Reader yet) this is not merely a matter of zoom level. For example the free "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" the pictures of the Rabbit are about 2x the size on the p4 as on the Nexus10. I assume this is because the Play Store hasn't been fully adapted for high-dpi devices yet.
The p4 would slowly charge when plugged into USB but the Nexus10 seems to actually lose charge while plugged into USB. Hopefully custom kernels will be available soon with "fast charge" capability.
Well hope that helps somebody make a decision.
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Would u trade ur n7 for a galaxy tab 10.1. My friend wants to trade me strait up. I like the bigger tab but I love the n7 tho.
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Nope. Sammy can go take a hike with their 10.1.
You get a bigger screen, but that's the only major benefit. The Nexus 7 has a better CPU (Tegra 3 vs Tegra 2, quad core vs dual), and is probably going to have a better development scene (however, I have no idea on the current state of development on the GT 10.1).
Edit: Hmm, it also seems to get cellular and rear camera. If you want cellular, and have a want for a rear camera, I don't see it as that bad of a deal.
No, I've never liked 10" tablets, iPads or otherwise. The N7 is the perfect size for me.
Don't need the cellular since I can tether to my HOX, and taking pictures or video with a tablet makes you look like an idiot.
Yeah I like that it has a rear can but do t really need it I have an s3. But I really like the bigger screen and as fas as the development I already feel too caught up with my s3 that I just flashed paranoid android to my n7 and left it alone.
I guess I just wanna feel good about giving up a newer product for an older model
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If you can sell the Tab for more than the cost of the Nexus 7, then it might be worth it to make the trade, sell the Tab, and then buy a new Nexus 7.
True but If I trade id just keep it. But thanks guys for ur input
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The Tab 10.1 is a nice device. Its a generation behind in specs. I liked my 10" Transformer but it had a micro SD card and HDMI out. I found it tedious to lug around and eventually stopped using it because of such. Everytime I wanted to use it, it was dead.
I sold my transformer for $200. The N7 was $250+tax. Not sure what the Tab sells for but they are probably being flooded in the market since the 10" Note is out.
Sammy stopped updating the Tab a long time ago. I'm not sure if it even officially got ICS let alone jelly bean. The N7 has JB and will get KeyLime Pie when its released and probably LoliPop.
Tell him to sell it over in the Market and pick up a N7.
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I've always hated larger tablets... once you hit 10" tablets I find little reason to not just get a laptop and be done with it. While the N7 is smaller, it's very workable. We're remodeling some areas of our house, and I keep a few pictures and measurement notes down in my N7. When I'm at Lowes, it's nice to pull out the N7 and get a better idea of what I'm facing at home. Since the N7 fits in my back pocket, it's only another +1 to that court.
That's just my 2c though. I've talked to some people who love 10" tablets. I personally don't, and on that premise alone I wouldn't do the trade. That being said, you're also swapping out for slightly older hardware too. Nothing wrong with that if it's worth it, but I see no compelling reason that I personally would do that trade.
Heavy tab 10.1，I like my N7
NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats the first thing i want to say to you.
i am ex tab 10.1 owner.
the performance is TERRIBLE!!!!
i started using from stock honeycomb 3.1
its laggy beyond words, and i was forced to learn to root and flash custom roms that are 3.2
things got SLIGHTLY better but it was still laggy.
simple things like typing on keyboard, bringing up on screen keyboard, scrolling are still choppy.
then ICS came, and i flash various customs like AOKP and CM9
things got better again, overall UI is acceptable, no where near buttery smooth but still ok.
however only the UI smoothness improved in ICS, apps, games, any slightly 3D games will play in "slow motion" or "stop frame" style.
the tegra2 just dont cut it. its a dissapointment.
i sold my tab10,1 the moment i saw google IO announce nexus 7.
nexus 7 is superior in every way then that tab10.1 in terms of performance, responsiveness.
the only weakness is the small screen, but that gives it another benefit which is better portability.
the tab 10,1 browser crashes on a daily basis.
memory management is terrible even on ics.
try load FB desktop page on tab 10,1 stock browser, keep scrolling down,
as the FB page loads more newsfeeds, the scrolling becomes soo laggy, and it will start FC eventually.
NEVER trade your nexus 7 for tab10.1. you will surely regret it.
I actually did the opposite, sold my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and got the N7. Main reason was the weight and portability, I lasted 30 minutes with the 10.1 in the bath and my arms got tired. With the N7, I can watch movies anywhere, holding anyway I want and it feels great. Plus it's much more snappier (I did install a CM10 nightly on the 10.1 which was much better than its stock ICS but wasn't as great).
Nexus 7 is the best Android tablet out there in my opinion. Not just the best 7 inch, the best. I'm somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to tech. I've had an Acer Iconia 10" and 7", Transformer prime, Galaxy tab 2, and now this. Not quite every tablet on the market but a pretty decent cross section. I've also had a close look at a few other tabs.
The only thing that comes close is the transformer prime. That thing is ok but it's harder to hold, much heavier and the dock seems like a nice idea but ends up being a pita in practice.
This thing is a little pocket rocket, very powerful whilst being very easy to hold even for long periods and extremely portable.
By the way the galaxy tab is ****. Samsung don't even bother to support it so it was still on honeycomb when I last checked two weeks ago.
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I'm starting to find my Galaxy Tab 10.1 a bit laggy and am contemplating moving up to a Nexus 10, but am a bit conscious that it's quite soon to upgrade a tablet after only two years.
Just wondered what Nexus 10 owners' opinions are on it, especially those who have upgraded from tablets from a similar generation to the Galaxy Tab 10.1; is it a worthwhile upgrade?..
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I'm starting to find my Galaxy Tab 10.1 a bit laggy and am contemplating moving up to a Nexus 10, but am a bit conscious that it's quite soon to upgrade a tablet after only two years.
Just wondered what Nexus 10 owners' opinions are on it, especially those who have upgraded from tablets from a similar generation to the Galaxy Tab 10.1; is it a worthwhile upgrade?..
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I'm very well placed to answer this; I upgraded to the Nexus 10 from Galaxy Tab 10.1 myself!
The biggest improvement is the screen; I found the screen of the tab 10.1 to be reasonably blurry with text in particular. this was a big annoyance for me given that magazines and news feeds are what I use my tablet for most! The nexus screen so incredibly sharp and graphic novels and magazines like practically like paper laid over a lightbulb - some people have commented on the colour profile of the nexus 10 being quite well matched to printed paper but that suits me just fine!
As for speed and general use, I had Cyanogenmod 10.1 on my tab 10.1 (heh) so speed was not necessarily a problem (I did try going back to the official ICS update from Samsung but it was soooooooo slow compared to CM10.1 I switched back only a couple of hours later! Even so, I have definitely noticed an improvement in the speed of the UI and general s[need at which things respond...
aaaaaaaanyway, the Nexus 10 is better than the tab 10.1 is every way; thinner, lighter, faster, sharped (man this screen is awesome!) and official updates as soon as the OS is released rather than a year later and awfully bloated unlike Samsung ROMs
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I'm very well placed to answer this; I upgraded to the Nexus 10 from Galaxy Tab 10.1 myself!
The biggest improvement is the screen; I found the screen of the tab 10.1 to be reasonably blurry with text in particular. this was a big annoyance for me given that magazines and news feeds are what I use my tablet for most! The nexus screen so incredibly sharp and graphic novels and magazines like practically like paper laid over a lightbulb - some people have commented on the colour profile of the nexus 10 being quite well matched to printed paper but that suits me just fine!
As for speed and general use, I had Cyanogenmod 10.1 on my tab 10.1 (heh) so speed was not necessarily a problem (I did try going back to the official ICS update from Samsung but it was soooooooo slow compared to CM10.1 I switched back only a couple of hours later! Even so, I have definitely noticed an improvement in the speed of the UI and general s[need at which things respond...
aaaaaaaanyway, the Nexus 10 is better than the tab 10.1 is every way; thinner, lighter, faster, sharped (man this screen is awesome!) and official updates as soon as the OS is released rather than a year later and awfully bloated unlike Samsung ROMs
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Agree with everything above. My wife has the 10.1 and it literally hurts my eyes looking at the text while comparing to this. She's also running stock and it's slow as could be. I should really do the thing every husband should do.... Root it and install cyanogenmod
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Agree with everything above. My wife has the 10.1 and it literally hurts my eyes looking at the text while comparing to this. She's also running stock and it's slow as could be. I should really do the thing every husband should do.... Root it and install cyanogenmod
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you'll seriously notice a whole world of difference with CM10.1 on there! It's like a whole new device
Nexus 10 is still better in every way, though!
Also, forgot to mention that N10 has standard MicroUSB data/power/OTG and micro HDMI so you can attach extra stuff and output to TV without silly proprietary adapters! Given my phone (Note) also uses Micro USB, this is a definite plus point (no idea why they put it "upside down" compared to every other MicroUSB device I've used but hey ho)
I come from a galaxy tab 10.1 to is a big upgrade faster web browsing and the screen to
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I did consider installing CM, but last I heard there were still some bugs on there (screen flickering amongst others) that put me off doing so a bit...
I might wait until I/O to make sure nothing better is announced and might take the plunge when I visit New York at the end of May, as that'll work out cheaper for me than buying it here in the UK.
For those who have upgraded from Galaxy Tab 10.1s, how do you find the battery on the Nexus 10? I mostly tend to use my Tab for watching movies/TV on long flights so need a fairly long battery life (and decent codec support) and I've ready really mixed things about the Nexus 10's battery life so far.
I upgraded from the tab 10.1 and it was definitely a great decision. No regrets. There's nothing the tab 10.1 could do that the Nexus can't and the Nexus is much much smoother. The only thing I didn't like was the lack of Tablet UI but PA has fixed that on my Nexus.
I too came from Galaxy Tab 10.1 to Nexus 10... Huge improvement. My galaxy tab was running cm10.1 and was laggy and I knew it was slow but I didn't really know how bad it was til I watched some videos of the nexus 10 running some tasks in a fraction of time it was taking me on my Gtab... Screen is beautiful in comparison to anything, not just the gtab ... Plus nothing beats having a pure nexus device.
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Battery life is great for my use (Google Magazines, Feedly, Graphic novels) and certainly seems comparable to the GTab10.1
Most of the time I can go a couple of days of reasonably heavy use before the battery gets to 30%. Generally I try not to let it go below this
sold my galaxy tab 10.1 the day before yesterday
I won't make this too in depth, but I'd actually like to address some of the development doubts I've seen for the 8.0 and share my fair opinion of the device so far. First off I'd like to compare it from my own personal experience to other tablets I've owned and used a fair bit.
First off I'd like to compare it to a Nexus 10. I spent roughly a week playing with a Nexus 10 and settled on returning it. This is going to sound a little strange being that I'm comparing such a close price point but the Nexus 10 to me was not worth the premium. Not only that but honestly with a 10" tablet I feel I may as well be using my 13" Lenovo Ideapad Yoga- BUT that is a personal preference and by no means a fair reference point. What did I experience with the Nexus 10? I did like the build quality, however the user experience was strangely underwhelming even after installing some custom ROMs. I'm quite aware this paragraph isn't too relevant, however I've found the Note 8.0 a fair bit easier to use in every day situations than any 10" tablet I've owned.
Comparing it to a Nexus 7 is another matter. I do own a Nexus 7, I've actually given it to my significant other's 12 year old girl to learn and play with. Originally though I do love the device far more so than it's 10" counterpart. The only problem is well, it's just slightly too small for some uses. The form factor I found to be slightly frustrating. Whenever I used it I felt I may as well just settle and use my Galaxy Note II. That said however the feel of it and the quality for the price point was obviously fantastic. It just seems that there is a sweet spot in my opinion on tablet size and I think that lies somewhere around 8 inches. It gives you plenty of room for web browsing, it's actually a decent amount more function to type on than even a Nexus 7 given the extra screen real estate, and it still works beautifully as an ebook reader/news source.
The biggest advantages really I've found is that the Note 8.0 while not having an entirely great screen resolution seems to have a better picture quality than a LOT of tablets I've played with. There is something slightly more sharp about the screen than even my experience with the Nexus 10, but let me make this clear. I'm not saying the screen is technically superior.
The other large advantage I've really noticed is how snappy even with the vanilla samsung ROM the note 8.0 is. Side by side it's by far the snappiest, quickest responding tablet in it's class for general use, save for mayhap using the home button. Yes, I don't necessarily like the hardware keys but they don't cripple the device in my own opinion. To be honest since I use a Note II for my phone it's helped the transition familiarity wise and I do think this was intentional more so than just developer laziness.
I would like to make a note I do own a 10.1 note also and I still do prefer my 8.0 at this point to it's use. Yes, I do wish Samsung would up build quality as of casing for these devices, but they are by far hindered by this. To be totally honest the plastic casing on my Note II and 10.1 has held up tremendously well to some nasty drops and spills, far better in fact than anything I've had with a more premium styled enclosure. That being said I do dislike the plastic creekyness which is very much noticeable with my 10.1.
The Note 8.0 strikes me as this, a great medium. It's not quite a full blown 10" media tablet and at the same time it's not quite so cramped as those 7" tablets available. As of the S-Pen functionality I honestly just think it's a plus. Even without it I would prefer these devices to most of the other comparable android devices in the US market at the moment.
When it comes to ROM development I would just say be patient. It's a new device with a definite premium price. It might take awhile but the forum on XDA just now really appeared within the last 24 hours and it might just take some time to get things going. That being said I would imagine the similarities to the Note II may speed up development once we have a recovery and such.
As a footnote, I've ordered this keyboard case which is due to arrive Tuesday and I will try give it a proper in depth review ASAP.
I apologize for this post being somewhat disordered and all over the place. I'm tired but I wanted to post something and participate in the forum. It's been ages since I have. Thanks everyone and have a good night!
I can agree with your post. I have a Note 8 and 10.1, Note 2, Nexus 7, amd GS3. The Note 8 is good in every way size, function, battery, software, and decent screen. The only issue is the captive buttons. They interfer with the usability at times, so if im watching hulu and holding the device one might hit the back arrow and stop the movie. How annoying. Other than that its my go to device
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Well said! I've owned the GS3 and own the Note 2, Nexus 7, Nexus 10, Evo 4g LTE, and Nexus 4 and believe me the Note 8.0 is one of the top devices out there. Even though Im not a big fan of the plastic build quality I will say that it does hold up and it feels at least like expensive plastic lol. This device is quality and though Im not purchasing the GS4 simply because I want a change from Samsung the biggest reason is waiting for the Note 3. Development will pick up its only been available for a little while peeps. If your on the fence and want a Apple like quality tablet with Android the Note series of tablets are definitely what you are looking for. Also the amount of software additions in this tablet is rediculous.
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I will also be buying the Note 8 and think that it might turn out to be a great device (escpecially since here in europe it will also sport phone functionatlity), but nonetheless this thread smells like marketing directly paid by samsung (3 posts by OP and then this?). Sorry OP if untrue; i know that i might be completely wrong ("in dubio pro rero" etc.) but still my gut feelings tell me otherwise.
i sincereley hope the Note 8 will be a great device and have owned more or less every single one of the latest samsung smartphone / tablet gadgets, but being sensitized / aware of the latest news regarding samsungs marketing tatics to pay people to write positive comments in forums like this i am extremely pissed of by this pracise. apart of being unethical (in whatever holistic sense i am not able to properly articulate in english) this is simply not necessary, because most of the samsung devices i own / have owned are great, but the smell of being produced by such a kind of manufacturer spoils the joy. stop this an let (your very good, indeed) products speak for themselves.
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I will also be buying the Note 8 and think that it might turn out to be a great device (escpecially since here in europe it will also sport phone functionatlity), but nonetheless this thread smells like marketing directly paid by samsung (3 posts by OP and then this?). Sorry OP if untrue; i know that i might be completely wrong ("in dubio pro rero" etc.) but still my gut feelings tell me otherwise.
i sincereley hope the Note 8 will be a great device and have owned more or less every single one of the latest samsung smartphone / tablet gadgets, but being sensitized / aware of the latest news regarding samsungs marketing tatics to pay people to write positive comments in forums like this i am extremely pissed of by this pracise. apart of being unethical (in whatever holistic sense i am not able to properly articulate in english) this is simply not necessary, because most of the samsung devices i own / have owned are great, but the smell of being produced by such a kind of manufacturer spoils the joy. stop this an let (your very good, indeed) products speak for themselves.
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I can assure you I'm not affiliated with samsung lol. I'm a court officer in Midwest City Oklahoma. I wish I was a Samsung rep though, I'd bet the pay is better than what I'm doing now xD
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I agree on the screen size thing.
The nexus 7 with a 16:9 screen at 7 inches sort of feels like a super large smartphone with insignificant space to pinch and zoom while on landscape.
My current 7.9 inch with a 4:3 screen ratio feels just right with significant space to pinch and zoom on landscape while making web pages somewhat more spacious for a desktop like experience.
Only draw back in the black bars but once again I am still using a old school 4:3 monitor at home
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I am sorry for my unnecessarily rude writing of yesterday; please accept my apologies.
I just came from reading the articels on arstechnica and our local newspaper on the mentioned (presumed) practice of samsung in korea and england before coming here in order to research about my new / future "baby" (Note 8). The first post I've read was yours, and I was like "oh my god, I can't believe it, it's indeed happening!" so I couldn't resist... (<--- I know, this doesn't make my rude behaviour better, just maybe a bit more understandable.)
LOL, do you think they pay that much? then I might also consider to enhance my meager daytime income (scientist now becoming a teacher) ...
again: sorry from my side and back on topic - good to hear that the Note serves you well I am a bit hesitating to order it due to the screen resolution; I tried to replace an Ipad (retina) with the Note 10.1, but couldn't stand the fuzziness of the screen, although I like the overall android tablet experience much more than the iOS thing.
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I can assure you I'm not affiliated with samsung lol. I'm a court officer in Midwest City Oklahoma. I wish I was a Samsung rep though, I'd bet the pay is better than what I'm doing now xD
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Thanks for your review and thoughts on this. I am going to check it out in person this weekend and give it a go, I had the GN 10.1 for a few days but felt it just wan't a good fit for the resolution of a large device. Still I prefer Android over anything else and looking at ditching my current tab and finally be rid of the last Apple product in my house
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again: sorry from my side and back on topic - good to hear that the Note serves you well I am a bit hesitating to order it due to the screen resolution; I tried to replace an Ipad (retina) with the Note 10.1, but couldn't stand the fuzziness of the screen, although I like the overall android tablet experience much more than the iOS thing.
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This is the only thing bugging me about it so far. Wonderful In the hand and love the SNote (Note 2 is my phone) but if you're used to high resolution screens the fuzziness is apparent when reading text. Not sure I can take it yet. I just picked up a Nexus 10 and am only going to keep one. The resolution is jarring between them. Going to wait it out a bit more and see. I need to be able to read books on my tablet.
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I have to agree about 8" being the sweet spot. I have had 7" & 10" tabs (and while 7" is more pocketable I like the 8" better) I have been a Note user since the GN I & II, we have some Note 10.1's at work and I really don't care for them. (the s-pen is nice to have for precise input) i was literally using a G Tab 2 7.0 and the GN 8.0 side by side for a day and decided on the Note 8.0 for my daily driver. Allot of i-devices at work but not my preference.
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I got the 3G version, but I use this with tethered wifi with my Note II for internet. The wifi version isn't available in my region.
This is the most decent thread I've read about comparing the Note 8 with other tablets. This is my frst ever tablet, and I find it a relief to do stuff with a bigger screen when I need it like spreadsheets. I used to take attendance with my Note II. Sketching is quite easier too. I found the Note 10.1 too heavy as a portable Cintique stand-in. The Note 8 is lighter and easier to handle.
I can't see any point in getting anything without a Wacom sytlus after getting the first Galaxy Note more than a year and a half ago. I do detailed digital art as a hobby, and I'm weilding the Autodesk Sketchbook and Photoshop Touch to do photo-realistic art. The S Pen is such a useful addition!
I have my Note II as my main, but for times I need a bigger screen, the Note 8 is what I take out. I just wished with had a changeable battery. 8 hours of actual screen on time isn't enough for me. I do hate plugging in to an outlet or portable power to maintain a charge, unlike what I'm doing with my Note II with 12 hours of heavy usage at about 6 to 7 hours of screen time. I usually change battery late afternoon. I can't do that with the Note 8 - I'm guessing that the Samsung team did this for our dependency for the smartphones.
Bottom line for the Note 8 for me is it's what I do need. I don't complain of its plastic exterior. I appreciate it's more powerful than the other tablets for my digital art hobby with the Wacom digitizer onboard. The screen is crisp enough and I don't see the point of having this in full HD (more power consumption) and the 720p resolution it has is sufficient. Do you honestly see the pixels? I just wished it was a Super AMOLED and it could have given the Note 8 better power efficiency. Currently, the screen consumes 80% of the battery life.
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I have had very good luck thus far using the Note 8 the entire day. I also use it in conjunction with the Note II and at this point, I feel I have the Nirvana of tech combos. Pretty happy all around here. I dont tether mine to my phone though, as I have a little prepaid hotspot to use out and about. For extended periods where I know I'll be away, like my backpacking trips on weekends, I bring a 10000mah portable battery and keep it in my pack/bag. I have only had to use it once, and that was to charge the Note 2
Yes, there are bigger, yes there are "better" specced devices, but honestly the SPen and a device I can literally use as a notepad replacement has changed my life as a network admin. I can't fathom going back to paper and pen.
I have to agree with the positive opinions expressed here. I love my 5110, especially after I rooted it. The lesser screen resolution doesn't bother me much, my eyes aren't that good anyway. The system's responsiveness and smoothness are a real joy.
What I DON'T love is the way available storage memory shrinks with each new generation of device from Samsung. 16 GB is small enough, but when half of that is taken up by the system, it borders on false advertising.
We need to start a letter-writing campaign to Samsung to get them to (a) change their firmware to allow apks to be stored and run from the external SD card, and OTA it to us as soon as possible, and (b) make 32GB the absolute minimum for internal storage on any future devices. Having to use workarounds is ridiculous.
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I have to agree with the positive opinions expressed here. I love my 5110, especially after I rooted it. The lesser screen resolution doesn't bother me much, my eyes aren't that good anyway. The system's responsiveness and smoothness are a real joy.
What I DON'T love is the way available storage memory shrinks with each new generation of device from Samsung. 16 GB is small enough, but when half of that is taken up by the system, it borders on false advertising.
We need to start a letter-writing campaign to Samsung to get them to (a) change their firmware to allow apks to be stored and run from the external SD card, and OTA it to us as soon as possible, and (b) make 32GB the absolute minimum for internal storage on any future devices. Having to use workarounds is ridiculous.
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I'm with you on B. A is harder insofar as I understand it the changes were in AOSP so it's really Google and not Samsung to blame for not being able to transfer apps to sd. It's getting silly now paticularly with the s4 which has about 7.8gb of usable storage. 9gb is closer to 8gb than 16 gb so it's kind of deceptive to call it 16gb. Many consumers who don't do enough research before buying will be quite disappointed.
Flash memory is actually pretty cheap now and Samsung manufacture it. It's time to stop being so tight Samsung.
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l purchased it without seeing it and I am very satisfied with it. would definitely recommend
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What a great device. And its a shame that some people maybe put off by the some of the pathetic reviews ive read on this device. Its stunning.
My s4 is faster. Higher res screen etc. But when it comes to browsing video etc theres no substitute for real estate.
Please dont listen to these bad reviews written by apple twats. If your in the market for a 10in tablet. You will love this
Lol I know what you mean I got my note 10.1 right after I got my s3 I love it the s pen, main reason I got the note over the n10
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Have to totally agree as well. Was about to get the Nexus 10 but I am really happy to get the Note 10.1. And the screen size and quality is more than fine for me...
This is the first time i have really used a tablet for my various hobbies. The Spen magic is great as well.
I just wish we get the Android updates for multiuser feature and bluetooth 4 LE support
i can't live without this tablet, take it everywhere i go i love the note series.
yeah, love it so much, and now, i'm running on ReVolt ROM and love it much more ^^
I completely ignored the reviews about the note 10.1, so many complaints about the screen being poor etc, what a load of tosh that is, there's bugger all wrong with it imo. I picked the note 10.1 over the nexus 10 and I don't regret that decision one bit!
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Snagged mine on eBay for £204 about 3 months ago, it's everything I need in a tablet.... I came from the tab 7.7 with the amoled screen which was lovely but still prefer the note 10.1 as more horsepower and bigger screen = happy gingerdude + with my note 2 gives me everything on the go.
To those who say screen is poor, try it for yourself is more than ok.
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What a great device. And its a shame that some people maybe put off by the some of the pathetic reviews ive read on this device. Its stunning.
My s4 is faster. Higher res screen etc. But when it comes to browsing video etc theres no substitute for real estate.
Please dont listen to these bad reviews written by apple twats. If your in the market for a 10in tablet. You will love this
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Couldn't agree more... just got my Note 10.1 a few weeks back - had been debating upgrading my original Tab 10.1 for a N10. I'm so happy I didn't - not sure where most of the bad reviews come from: screen is fantastic, the device is super-responsive, feels great in the hand and well-built, expandable memory (running a 64GB card in my 32GB Note = all the space I could ask for) - and for someone that uses his tablet like a notebook, the pen is fantastic to work with... Highly recommended. :victory:
What would make this Tablet permanently on my person, is if it could Seperate into 2, for portability. The 2nd half of the screen could serve as a giant battery, or the 2 halves could have Bluetooth link to each other, so you could do a lot of new things tablets can't do, for (a light-hearted) example , PORTABLE BATTLESHIP GAME SET! XD lol. Just think how creative Samsung could be, once they make those flexible displays commercially available. Also, when Google Glass becomes reasonably priced (I don't think King Midas could even afford it right now), I think some really awesome usage integration between one's glasses, computer, smartphone, and tablet, is inevitably going to be one of the driving catylsts in how commercially available tech will evolve/unfold.
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About the screen: the only reason Samsung didn't make it on Par with competitors, is because they couldn't find any that could work well with the specialized Wacom digitizer (which is what makes the s-pen superior to a magic wand XD), while also being cost effective. It's a tradeoff that anyone who goes this tablet a fair try, wouldn't care less about. Friggin' Apple extremists think the iPad screen makes photos look better than looking at something in person with your own eyes. Lol.
Opposite for me. I got my S4 and now I use my tablet less. It's not because it's a bad tablet, it's just that it's easier to whip out the phone and browse sometimes. I use my tablet for lots of other important things though so it makes up for that..
i sold my gn10.1 a few months back to get the ativ 500t and 700t. there isn't a day that goes by that i don't miss it. i've almost bit the bullet a few times and gotten a refurb for $300 (i've seen the refurb 32 for ~$350). i really wanna wait to see if they come out with a bigger screen, but i really miss my gn10.1. i missed it so bad that i bought a gn8 to fill the gap that will be left after i sell my nook hd+.
it was the greatest tablet i've owned and thought i'd finally found one that i'd keep for more than a year. windows is great since i can play just about any format and have an alternate selection of games (can't say better b/c that's subjective) and i love the bigger screen. i do hate that windows desktop isn't very finger friendly and that modern ui sucks so badly.
maybe i'll cave it and get another. hopefully i can tame the desire and wait a few months to see how much the ativ q will be or how big the new galaxy note tablets will be.
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What a great device. And its a shame that some people maybe put off by the some of the pathetic reviews ive read on this device. Its stunning.
My s4 is faster. Higher res screen etc. But when it comes to browsing video etc theres no substitute for real estate.
Please dont listen to these bad reviews written by apple twats. If your in the market for a 10in tablet. You will love this
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I just got a Galaxy S4 about a week and a half ago. I find myself using both my Note 10.1 and S4 about equally but for different things, for productivity apps, such as the S-pen apps and office apps, the real estate of the 10.1 can't be beat. for speed, fast browsing and social apps I lean toward the S4. One note though, the S4 just came out with an update that lets you move apps to SDcard, which the 10.1 does not have (hopefully it will come in a future update), however this update locks the bootloaders so that the S4 then cannot be rooted (as of yet!).
Same here. Galaxy Note and S4. In many ways they compliment each other. S-notes automatically show up on S-memo (albeit read only) and reverse also. S4 is always there when Note is not practical. Note wins for meetings. S4 wins waiting for the airplane door to close, and riding in the car.
I even got the small point stylus (ikross brand) designed for the S4 and it works nicely.
In geek heaven here .
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I've owned a N7 2012 for about a year, and I have a buyer for my old one, so I'm looking at upgrading. I haven't used a stylus device in years, but I used to love them: precision text editing, sketches to supplement an explanation, and unambiguous link clicking in the browser.
I expect longevity from my devices, and my previous experience has been that the charging connector breaks first on every mobile device I've had. This gives the N7 the serious advantage with the Qi inductive charging.
OTOH, the Note's performance is more future-proof: a 96GB Note (thanks SD-card expansion) will stay useful longer with a 32GB N7, and the benchmarks also come out clearly in favour of the Note: (Slashgear Note 6900 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/quadrant_gnote8_attwtmk.jpg vs N7 5600 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...enshot_2013-07-25-13-17-52-google-nexus-7.jpg ).
But the performance doesn't count for all that much, since my main use for my current N7 has been reading: PDFs, e-books and websites. I use it mostly around the house, and my phone when I'm out and about.
Can anyone suggest something I haven't considered that may be relevant? The price isn't going to sway me much one way or the other.
Thanks
I prefer note 8 due to larger size and I won't mind carrying a slightly bigger one. Was coming from 7.7. I would have taken if it's nexus 8.
Happy user of note 8.
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I don't know what I can add except my reason for buying a Note 8.0--the pen. I bought my Note for school to replace everything in my bookbag--no more notebooks, no more laptop, no more text books. So far I'm very happy with my decision. I was also considering the new Nexus but because I wanted the ability to take notes, the lack of a wacom pen was off-putting. The Note was well worth the extra money for me.
I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
I had the nexus 7.2 for a week and a half, the 16Gb version and it had a very nice screen fast processor but returned it due to frequent reboots, apparently it only happens on the 16Gb version. Got the note 8 instead. Am very satisfied with it.
I'd recommend you get the Nexus 7.2 first use it for a week then return and get the Note 8, that way you can see the strength and weakness of both and then decide which one is more useful to you. I am glad I did that, the Nexus 7.2 was how to say this not to hurt anyones feelings -plain vanilla- which is not bad, but you can't really compare the two because of the S pen feature on the Note 8. The Note 8 screen is not bad at all, but the 7.2 beats it, and I find that I do use the S pen more often than I thought I would. Also I'm a long time Samsung user and I like their products. I gave the Nexus 7.2 a try but am more comfortable with the Note 8, also love the S pen, for that alone it was worth it to me.
So as I mentioned get one use it as is for a week or two then return it and get the other one. Test both, but in my opinion you can't really pin the two tablets against each other. They are both good just depends what you are going to use it for, if you're a big game player get the Nexus, if you going to use the tablet for other things get the Note 8
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
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I've owned more than a few Samsung devices, I currently own a two SGS 3, AT&T and Sprint. Neither are on 4.2.2, which is why i'm on CM10.1.2. I'd be pretty happy with a TouchWiz 4.3, but I know Samsung is pretty lame at updates that's why I made that statement, if the Note does get the 4.2.2 update, that's great, but I don't think they will go past that.
Hopefully Samsung is doing an overhaul on TouchWiz all together, I may stick with Samsung devices, otherwise my next device will be a Nexus. I've given up hope for the skin based phones and updates.
It really comes down to how much you value the s-pen....i thought I'd get much more use out of it (i do a lot of handwritten note taking, but at meetings i typically type in notepad) and never did so I just put my Note8 up for sale because the extra $100 wasn't worth it because it was still faster/easier for me to jot something quick on a post it than to take out the spen, launch the note app, scribbe something, save it....
however when I was in school the ability to take down quick notes and write on-screen on pdfs/ppt was *very critical* and I loved my W7 tablet with ntrig (this is all pre-tablets so it just depends on your use case
With OTG usb, you can still use microsd on the Nexus7, althought it's a bit more work and takes up the charging port..not sure if the new N7 has that yet (you had to be rooted on the old N7 to use it)
screenwise, the new N7 quality is much better, but I find the slightly larger note 8 to actually be easier to read on and use
I'm close to making my final decision because I refuse to keep the Note 8.0 and the N7 (2013) that I currently have.
The N7 is super nice. The display keeps drawing me back over and over. I like the fact that I can watch Netflix on it and not accidentally press the back button like I tend to do on the Note 8.0. I love the crisp text in my ebooks. And who doesn't love stock?
The Note 8.0 is better from a productivity standpoint for me, and it's why it currently leads. Outside of holding it in landscape and pressing buttons accidentally, I actually prefer the feel of the Note 8.0 more than the new N7. The display isn't nearly as bad as some would have you believe either. Sure if you have it side by side the N7, you'll see it, but in my opinion it looks real good.
Also a sidenote for comic book readers. I use Comixology, and I'm not a fan of the panel to panel view unless I'm forced to use it due to something being very small. It's easier for me to read comics on the Note 8.0 compared to the N7. Probably because of the extra inch of real estate.
Probably the reason I still go back and forth is because I know I can expect updates and a vibrant dev community on the N7, but probably not so much with the Note 8.0. Heck, I have the AT&T LTE variant, and I sadly can't even root that yet. Good luck with your decision.
I went ahead and ordered the 32GB Nexus 7.2. I figure I can always sell it for about what I paid for it if I decide not to keep it.
I got the previous Nexus 7 as a gift, but actually ended up selling it (and keeping the more lowly spec'd Tab 2 7" I already had) because the Nexus was just so flaky. Apparently it was a great device prior to 4.1, but I only got onboard after that. Plus the speakers were PATHETIC (unacceptable for a device that screams multimedia consumption.) I'm hoping those are better this go-round as I use mine for backgound music/video quite a bit.
There's pros to being on the bleeding edge of updates I guess. But I almost view it like you're being an unofficial beta tester. Samsung may not always have the latest official Android version on all its flagship devices, but all my experiences with them to-date have been outstanding. There's a reason (beyond just marketing) that they're the most dominant OEM in the Android world.
If the primary purpose is reading as OP has posted, I would suggest note 8 to be better choice.
My primary reason for buying note 8.0 was reading (PDF's as well as comics) and considering that almost 38 GB of my external 64 Gig card is occupied by books i would say i am more than pleased by my choice.
The extra screen size does matter here though both share similar 16:10 aspect ratio , which is quite ok,
another surprise feature, the reading mode that samsung built into this is amazing (though it might appear strange at first) but now I just can't imagine reading without that , it's easier on eyes,less stress and for me makes for much better concentration. add a good reader app (I absolutely love the free perfect viewer app for pdf and comics)
The secondary thing for me was the s-pen. since i have been using wacom tablets on pc since late 90's I found this quite adequate. My N-5100 costed me around $530 USD) which is surely definitely on the costlier side of things however I would still consider it worth that extra dough.
I also primarily use this at home and mine is still unrooted (haven't found a need or reason to root it yet).
Gotta decide what's your most important feature.
For me tablets can have two distinct purposes, media consumption device or productivity device. As a media consumption device there isn't much use to me for a tablet because honestly, most things are just more convenient to do on my phone since I always have it, and it has a data connection.
Now as a productivity device, there are a couple things the note 8 excels at. PDF and textbook portability/editing, handwritten notes, and remote desktop control. The spen takes this device to a higher level of productivity because there is no device with a comparable stylus. But for anything else like word document editing, media production, music/picture editing, tablets in general fall short because laptops/desktops are just better.
So if you want a media consumption device, the new Nexus 7 is probably better or even the iPad for that matter. But for productivity the spen will make up for the other shortcomings like lower screen pixel density, less frequent operating system updates, etc.
MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
It took me ages to decide between the N7 and note 8, and I decided on the note 8. But now I realise, that as I'm going university next year, I'll probably need a laptop, and I'm confused all over again
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logicrulez said:
I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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TC93 said:
MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
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Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
htinaung said:
4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Grogck said:
Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
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I haven't had any complaints about the Note 8.0 speakers either.
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Maybe more smooth
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I own the original nexus 7...
I currently own an ipad 4 (so I'm used to looking at retina display), I've had the note 10.1, nexus 10, etc....
Honestly I think 8" is the sweet spot. I want to love thenew nexus 7 so bad but I feel like 7" is just a tad too small. The extra screen area from an 8" tablet seems sooo much larger and more usable when browsing websites. Am I crazy? I feel like I keep reading about screen clarity vs spen vs whatever ... but to me the real battle is do you prefer 7" vs 8" - I'm probably going to get both and then return the one I dont' like. As I said, I'm used to the retina screen as well as the beautiful screen on my htc one; however just playing around with the note in the store, the screen honestly isn't that bad and colors are quite quite good.
That said, the nexus 7 screen is by far superior BUT I still think the larger size provides so much better screen real estate and thus ease of use.
Anyone not get the nexus 7 simply because they don't like a 7" tablet?