[Q] Does the N10 have a headset (hp+mic) connector? - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

For those who think the answer would be an obvious "yes, why the hell wouldn't it?", I don't blame you, I would too, but please see here (tl;dr: the Nexus 7 doesn't). If/when you have access to one, would you please test it by lightly blowing or tapping on the headset's mic? On the N7 thread there were several people that got confused cause the tablet's own mic was picking up their voice anyway and they thought it was the headset's.

i didn't bother reading the entire thread you linked, but from what i could gather, it was stated by google, it should work for the n7. given that the thread was opened in july, when the n7 was still really new, i would agree with the theory that the plug was not it far enough. the same thing was going on with my phone (sgs2), when it was new and people on the forum were worried that the handsfree wouldn't work. in the end, the solution was, "try again, push harder" and then it worked for everybody.
why would they leave out this feature? doesn't make much sense. also, even if they would (and they wouldn't!), it'd still be possible to use a bluetooth stereo headset for both music and mic.

I am as confused as you are as to why they would leave it out, but in that thread it was confirmed independently by various parties, including ifixit, a response from google support, and even some that tested before and said it worked, but then admitted they were wrong when testing via tapping the mic. Besides it not working, a teardown reveals that the jack is TRS (regular stereo headphones) not TRRS (4-connector).
Since that post was started, there's been even more confirmation. When I searched for it that's the only place I could find discussing it, but now if you google for it you can find other threads as well.
Re:bluetooth alternatives. That's OK for communications apps, but for stuff like recording apps it's a problem. If there's one thing Android is lagging WAY behind than iOS is recording apps. Also many apps have BT issues depending on device, Groove IP doesn't work well with it on my N7, and not even on my GB Samsung phone, for which it does work for regular carrier calls -- there's also some BT issues in the thread.

N7 does not have mic in capability via headphone socket.
I record a lot of music and to be able to plug in a mic would be great as I did with my iPod touch, but Google left that bit out for some stupid reason.
N10 would be wise to have it included.
Sent from my Nexus 7

You will just have to wait and see after someone buys one and checks it out.It is all guesswork before then.We all guessed wrong on the N7.

James-NC said:
You will just have to wait and see after someone buys one and checks it out.It is all guesswork before then.We all guessed wrong on the N7.
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The Nexus 10 uses a Wolfson audio chip and the 7 uses something else; if that's what controls recording, you can see if a device with a similar chip (like the Galaxy S) has that feature.
I honestly have no idea if that's what determines recording capabilities, so don't make fun of me if I'm wrong lol

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After market BT Headunit, over sensitive microphone?

Not sure if any one else has had this issue, but previously I had a Palm Pre that I would connect to my Eclipse cd5030. People always said it was hard to hear me, so i found a better mic. Swapped it out and all was well.
Move now to my EVO. Everyone I talk to says it sounds like the mic is way to sensitive. I also know people have complained about crappy audio when recording video and think the 2 problems maybe related. I tried swapping the mic back to the OEM one and people said they could barely hear me again.
Does anyone have any pointers or know of any settings i can try to change etc? Another example of how it sounds is when i use fring with my wife (on her evo as well) and there is alot of noise in the background but there is nothing going on.
Any help, pointers, or comments would be appreciated
Thanks
p.s. Wife and I also have S9HDs but we have not tried them yet. I will try those soon and get back to this thread

[help]Phone outputs sound only in right ear phone

As title says, it used to work properly with both left and right headphones working properly, however now only the right earpiece outputs sound no matter what I try, played music, games, video and all have the same problems.
Could have been something I did with the phone, could have accidentally made it output in the right earphone only. if so, how do I fix it...
Tried other pairs of earphones and all experience the same problems too, the contact should be working as when i insert a earphone, i can hear the electrical contacts being made on the earphone
You can isolate instantly whether it's software or hardware by just reinstalling the firmware.. Then you'll know for sure (when I worked at a Apple reseller, restoring iPod's was the first action I told everyone to take if they didn't know what was wrong)
But I have yet to have seen any balance controls.
Are you using the Samsung earphones that were supplied with the phone? Samsung, and Nokia, use a different configuration to most phones as far as the four-pin socket is concerned, so if you are using any other make, the chances are that only one channel is connected. Also make sure you are using earphones with a FOUR pin plug, not the standard three pin supplied with mp3 players.
Geryatrix said:
Are you using the Samsung earphones that were supplied with the phone? Samsung, and Nokia, use a different configuration to most phones as far as the four-pin socket is concerned, so if you are using any other make, the chances are that only one channel is connected. Also make sure you are using earphones with a FOUR pin plug, not the standard three pin supplied with mp3 players.
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Standard stereo mini-jack is a universal wiring standard, i.e. tip and two barrel contacts for ground and left/right channels. The fourth barrel contact is usually used for composite video.
If anyone decided to wire their socket differently then you'd never get any earplugs/headphones to work without an adaptor and it would be a totally stupid thing to do.
To the original poster, check whether you've adjusted balance settings to only one side. Not sure how you do that since haven't got mine yet.
Using stock headphones, have not changed any settings to output in right earphones only.will try re flashing when I can
This may sound a bit dumb but you checked you actually properly pressed the jack into the socket? Just asking because the first time I listened to something on my SGS I had the same problem just to notice that the socket was actually tight enough so that the jack wasn't completely in, once I pressed it the missing 1-2mm in the whole thing changed
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This may sound a bit dumb but you checked you actually properly pressed the jack into the socket? Just asking because the first time I listened to something on my SGS I had the same problem just to notice that the socket was actually tight enough so that the jack wasn't completely in, once I pressed it the missing 1-2mm in the whole thing changed
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though that this could have been the problem as well,pushed it all the way in but stop no luck.
Reflashed firmware, still have the problem.... This is already the second problem with my phone, if you have been frequenting this forums you would know that i have also posted a problem with my camera.
So gotta bring down to Samsung svc centre again?
Is there any way i can ask for a 1 to 1 exchange since i have gotten a lemon device...
Qazz~ said:
Is there any way i can ask for a 1 to 1 exchange since i have gotten a lemon device...
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Yes I'd assume if you describe to them that some key functions don't work properly they should give you a new one, for instance the audio output isn't only for listening to music but also works as the handsfree socket so it is rather vital. You just got a bad copy so go and ask them
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Yes I'd assume if you describe to them that some key functions don't work properly they should give you a new one, for instance the audio output isn't only for listening to music but also works as the handsfree socket so it is rather vital. You just got a bad copy so go and ask them
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Just went down to Samsung svc centre today and described my problems,asked for a replacement and all they replied was "sorry sir, we do not do 1 to 1 exchanges"... Damn was really hoping to get a new phone, anyway now its with them and hope they don't screw anything up with it.
Sound Problem
You solved the problem? I have the same problem sounds to me more slowly in the left side of the headphone. I using Dark Knight 3.
I had such a problem with my old k800i mobile. After buying new earphones, the problem was solved.
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I tried, but no results
the sgs ( GT-I9000 ) uses a different type of wiring for the headphones, is the same nokia uses for the N95, the sgs2 headset wont work! the galaxy tabs headsets wont work, the iphone/ipod headsets wont work!!!!! why??? because the wiring is different!! why?? ask samsung!
ok, are you using the same headset? if yes, try to use them in someone else sgs (gt-i9000) if they work then it's your phone, if they don't ask if you can use his headset in yours, if they work then is your headset, just get a new one keeping in mind what i just told you.
if you narrowed it down to your phone being faulty.. (it happened to me too... ) and I just saw that you are waiting for it to be fixed, just wait until you get it back... ( i hope they will fix it for you too)... in my case they changed the logical board, so it's basically a new phone on the inside.
good luck.

I cant believe the mic on the transformer

Could some of you guys post a recording of your mic from the transformer. Like music or something. I just can't believe the horible mic quality
That's because it's not made for Drake to use in the studio. You can't really expect anything decent for a tablet at $400.00. You're looking at the wrong market, it's made for voice recognition and it works superb in combination with Google's Voice-related API's. Have you tried Voice Actions with this thing? It works near perfectly even with a ****ty voice.
It could use a boost though, the girlfriend has trouble hearing me when chatting. Ive thought about a plug in directional mic for that.
Just bought a $2 plug in mic for iphone that people said improved its capture of voice from a conference room. Hopefully it works because its about the size of a piece of candy, would be easy to carry for chatting.
The mic is, hardware-wise, the sole lemon for me on the Transformer. It's close to useless, because it is so insensitive.
Using Skype on the Transformer, I literally have to have the tablet within about a foot of me, and turned sideways so the mic points directly at me (and I can't see the screen). And it's not the specific tab -- I've got both 16GB and 32GB units, and the mic performance is equally terrible on both.
I'm hoping it turns out to be a firmware issue and the gain can be adjusted, either by Asus or a third party, because as-is it's simply not useful, and I can't really take advantage of basic OS features like voice search because of that. (And yes, Tubular, I've tried it. With my clearest possible voice, I have so far only been able to manage one successful search in total. 99% of the time it searches for completely the wrong thing, or nothing at all.)
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The mic is, hardware-wise, the sole lemon for me on the Transformer. It's close to useless, because it is so insensitive.
Using Skype on the Transformer, I literally have to have the tablet within about a foot of me, and turned sideways so the mic points directly at me (and I can't see the screen). And it's not the specific tab -- I've got both 16GB and 32GB units, and the mic performance is equally terrible on both.
I'm hoping it turns out to be a firmware issue and the gain can be adjusted, either by Asus or a third party, because as-is it's simply not useful, and I can't really take advantage of basic OS features like voice search because of that. (And yes, Tubular, I've tried it. With my clearest possible voice, I have so far only been able to manage one successful search in total. 99% of the time it searches for completely the wrong thing, or nothing at all.)
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Sounds like a defect: the mic is bad, but not that bad. Can you RMA it?
Or just up the gain in Skype. Anyhow, people have been telling me I sound like I'm in a vaccum when I talk on Ventrilo, but it is to be expected of a mic on a tablet.
knoxploration said:
The mic is, hardware-wise, the sole lemon for me on the Transformer. It's close to useless, because it is so insensitive.
Using Skype on the Transformer, I literally have to have the tablet within about a foot of me, and turned sideways so the mic points directly at me (and I can't see the screen). And it's not the specific tab -- I've got both 16GB and 32GB units, and the mic performance is equally terrible on both.
I'm hoping it turns out to be a firmware issue and the gain can be adjusted, either by Asus or a third party, because as-is it's simply not useful, and I can't really take advantage of basic OS features like voice search because of that. (And yes, Tubular, I've tried it. With my clearest possible voice, I have so far only been able to manage one successful search in total. 99% of the time it searches for completely the wrong thing, or nothing at all.)
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You have a defective unit. The microphone in the Transformer is similar to that on low-end netbooks, etc. It's made to work for voice chatting and for voice search. It will not record high end audio... However, plug in mics work, iirc.
I'm getting my Asus Transformer today. Given some of the manufacturing defect concerns, I've been starting a list of things to checkout when I get mine. I guess it's worth while to check to see that the mic works, at least OK enough for voice commands.
Tubular said:
That's because it's not made for Drake to use in the studio. You can't really expect anything decent for a tablet at $400.00. You're looking at the wrong market, it's made for voice recognition and it works superb in combination with Google's Voice-related API's. Have you tried Voice Actions with this thing? It works near perfectly even with a ****ty voice.
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Yep, it shines where my cappy fails! Nice voice recognition.
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quarky42 said:
Sounds like a defect: the mic is bad, but not that bad. Can you RMA it?
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dorino1 said:
You have a defective unit. The microphone in the Transformer is similar to that on low-end netbooks, etc. It's made to work for voice chatting and for voice search. It will not record high end audio... However, plug in mics work, iirc.
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Thanks for the replies, but note that I have *two* Transformers (one early-production 16GB, one almost brand new 32GB) and both are identical in terms of recording levels.
With no case or anything to block the mic, Skype is usable so long as the microphone faces towards me and is within 1-2 feet, but if I turn the tablet so the screen faces towards me, the person I'm Skyping can no longer hear me properly.
Voice search is probably further complicated by my accent (somewhere between British, American, and Australian, and I use pronunciations from all three accents near-interchangeably). It is, in a word, useless. Well, perhaps worse than useless. But that's likely half down to the weak mic, and half down to my accent.
But I really don't think the mic in both of my units is faulty, tbh -- the audio is too similar in both, and they're not from the same production run.
Alright. I'm confused, though. Is it harder to hear in portrait (long end on top/bottom) or landscape? (short end on top/bottom)
Anyway, if you want better quality, attach a headset.
agree..the mic on the TF is ****...til I root, install chems kernel mod, install voodoo control, and volumn plus...now it just ok.. not good.
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dorino1 said:
Alright. I'm confused, though. Is it harder to hear in portrait (long end on top/bottom) or landscape? (short end on top/bottom)
Anyway, if you want better quality, attach a headset.
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It's not portrait versus landscape, but rather, screen facing me, or screen facing to my left.
Imagine the TF sitting in front of you on a small table with dock attached, in netbook mode. Now imagine you've turned the whole thing 90 degrees so that the person sitting on the side of the table to your left can use it. That's the position I have to place the netbook in so that the mic can pick me up reasonably...
If I sit in front of the screen, the person I'm calling can barely hear me just two feet from my tablet (and as my long-suffering wife will tell you, I'm not a quiet speaker!) ;-) It's not specific to the person I'm calling -- I've tried doing a loopback test in Skype and even with the volume turned up all the way, I can hardly hear myself when sitting in front of the tab's screen.
Unfortunately I don't have the correct type of headset to test the mic jack. All my headsets either have separate mic / headphone cables, or a smaller size of jack.
Okay, I'm really pretty positive you have a bad unit, then. My mic at least works with the screen facing me!
Anyway, a coupler for dual 3.5mm headsets costs like 2 dollars
Thanks, guess I'll add it to my list of things to do -- call Asus and see if I need to get both tabs serviced...
That's immediately after I get my Creative speakers serviced. (Crackle on left channel.) And my Logitech mouse. (Left button double-clicks with a single click). And my Corsair power supply (started making a continuous ticking noise like a bearing's going).
*sigh* ;-)
has anyone tried using a bluetooth headset ? ive got a Nokia BH-109 paired with my TF, but no ones on skype for me to test it
dorino1 said:
You have a defective unit. The microphone in the Transformer is similar to that on low-end netbooks, etc. It's made to work for voice chatting and for voice search. It will not record high end audio... However, plug in mics work, iirc.
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Why then would you include the ability to record hi-def video,with absolutely horrendously bad audio recording...I can't believe this Mic is not defective...RMAing back to Amazon for a new unit.
Chas
knoxploration is right. my tf mic is terrible. there's nothing wrong with it...just really hard to hear for people on the other end. I do the same thing and turn the tab to the side so i'm facing the mic. person on the other end hears me better but then they can't see me. i guess it's time to use one of those usb ports for a 3rd party mic. anyone tested any?

Increase mic volume

Has anyone found a way (or an app) to increase the mic volume? When I am google video chat with someone they say they can hardly hear me.
Snap! I was just about to post the exact same question. I've hunted aroudn and found a fair few people asking the quetsion in various threads but can't seem to find an answer, I know it can be done as I've had it too loud on other phone and they've tweaked it and altered the volume so surely it's fairly easy tweak (if you know what to tweak) to do it the other way. Probably just altering a register somewhere.
We got my mother in law a transformer and she calls us on Google talk. She can't hear us very well and we can only just hear her too. I know the speakers are very quiet but Google talk is just silly, even at full volume it's still very quiet.
I would also be very interested in learning if there is a way to increase mic volume.
Thus far I'm not aware of a way, but I too have the same issue. Mic is ludicrously quiet, only picks me up reasonably well if I turn the tablet so the microphone points directly to me (and hence, I can't see the screen).
Short of Asus fixing it, or a third-party making a fix (which will likely need root access to apply), the only solution is to use an external microphone.
Similar experience with Gtalk.. however not much of a problem with Skype.. heard that the pinout is similar to iphone.. so any iphone compatible headset should do the trick.
when speaking to my mother in law my father in law iss often there as well so headset is not an option.
Yet another thing we need a fix for! This fix list is geting longer Poor sound at the best of time to having quiet poor sound makes it almost unuseable!
i have the same problem with Fring
lets hope one of the clever bods can fix it for us
I am rooted and this was one of the reasons I did it.
Rooting is very easy to do on here now with the pure root package and I can't really see any downside to it other than it doens't update OTA but thats hardly a killer.
The microphone is bad on the Acer A500 as well. Trying to use the google voice to text is rather frustrating because it affects the accuracy of the translation. I was hoping the asus would be better in this regard, but if it's not then there's no point in switching tabs. I guess I will just have to speak LOUDER!
Rob
nobody worked out a way of fiing bad mic volume then?
The sad thing about the mic's location on the TF is that it is facing the wrong direction to pick up any voice. I too, am having issues with the TF not picking up my voice very well. I was hoping that there is a fix by now, but guess not.
voodoo
For rooted users you can install the voodoo kernel which improves audio including micropone volumes. From what i read I am tempted to root my device just for this.
Search on the market for voodoo, (and then show me how you did it
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For rooted users you can install the voodoo kernel which improves audio including micropone volumes. From what i read I am tempted to root my device just for this.
Search on the market for voodoo, (and then show me how you did it
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I wasn't aware voodoo had any effect on mic? Plus it has not effect on speaker volume, only volume / quality on headphone output (can connect external speakers to it via that) I may be wrong though. I already have voodoo but use volume+ to increase built in speaker volumes. Mic is still terribly quiet

Android head unit microphone issues

These systems are well known for their mic troubles and I have taken this up with the manufacturer. There is a post that I have seen somewhere in this forum that details a hardware fix. From what I have gathered, anyone brave enough to attempt and has accomplished this fix has not reported any issues; great for the electricians out there.
I do work in the computer industry, but identifying electrical components and soldering is not something I am too confident with. The manufacturer did however, send me an updated update.img file in response to my mic issues. I've installed this and it made some improvement, but nothing so significant that I have actually started using the mic. It also has a new wallpaper and noticed that the default apps have been updated, but not sure how?
Anyway, I've just had a bright idea! I've tried improving the mic by using various bluetooth mics, various external mics that plugin into the mic jack, using the internal mic and manufacturer software update. All make very little difference, but has anyone actually tried using a USB mic?
I don't have one to hand and don't really want to buy one if this doesn't solve the issue. Would drivers/android recognising the usb device be an issue? Hoping someone has had a go at trying this out or can try it out if thay have a usb mic?
Shame no one replied on this one. Did you end up trying a USB mic solution and did it work out for you?
Yeah... Haven't tried it yet as don't want to buy one if it doesn't work. Your reply to this thread would have bumped it back to the top so may still get a response Im hoping
According to this link http://liliputing.com/2012/09/using-skype-on-an-mk802-android-4-0-mini-pc.html, a microsoft lifecam vx-700 with built-in microphone was found to be working on some android devices. The question is whether our firmware would work too. And whether there would be a way to simply disable the built-in input and only route the external usb sound in. It all feels like its probably too much to ask....
OK so I tried a cheap usb webcam with built in microphone to see if it would make a difference. The webcam seems to be working fine for video, was instantly recognized by android and showed video, but sound is still the horrible mess coming from the internal mic. I doubt that a dedicated USB mic would be any different.
Thanks for checking... you saved me some time at least.
Could it be when using an internal mic + external at the same time that can cause this kind of trouble? That is what it seems when i read around forums.
have a look at this, maybe it helps:
http://www.autopumpkin.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=171&start=90
I simply cut the internal red wire to mic and installed external mic again and the problems have disappeared. I have been told there is a slight echo but that may be fixed by changing the BT firmware from default.
I think the mic location on the HU is excellent and we don't really need to route an external mic somewhere else. How about just trying to desoldier the old one and try to locate a high quality one and soldier a new one ?
Fortunately I am lucky and my internal mic works great.
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I think the mic location on the HU is excellent and we don't really need to route an external mic somewhere else. How about just trying to desoldier the old one and try to locate a high quality one and soldier a new one ?
Fortunately I am lucky and my internal mic works great.
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Lucky you, though to be fair without an external mic my internal worked, just not very well. I have read somewhere that soldering to the internal connections had issues but not sure why, it cant hurt to try can it?
roscored1000 said:
Lucky you, though to be fair without an external mic my internal worked, just not very well. I have read somewhere that soldering to the internal connections had issues but not sure why, it cant hurt to try can it?
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Shouldn't be a tough solder job.
Just make sure to use a solder sucker to remove old mic and you should be fine.
Guys,
I have the same problem with my android car navigation system.
I have a Note 4 and an android car navigation system in my car (with built in wifi and Bluetooth (BT)). The microphone of the car navigation system has a very low quality, it is almost not working/usable. I would like to pair my phone to the car system in BT but would like to disable the built- in microphone of the android car system and use the note 4's microphone by default and hear the sound of the person who is talking to me on the car speakers.
Is this possible? How? Do I need to use third party apps ?
Many thanks in advance
So frustrating... Anyone have a fix yet?
Android head unit mic barely picking up.
Why have they not fixed this issue?
So frustrating. Got everything all hooked up and straightened out except the daggum mic. I just bought this android head unit (9.0) and the person on the other end of the phone call can't hear me. So I plugged in the external and same. They can barely here me when I am screaming into it.
I have got to get this fixed.
Anyone found a solution yet???
Find out how to get into the engineering menu of your HU, there you can adjust the mic gain. Also have a look at this thread for other ideas.
did you fix it?
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I improved the level of my mic built-in with th MTK enginerring app. hardware test and changing mic volumen in normal mode, headset mode and loudspeaker mode, but it is not enough when engine is working. I will try to solder and external mic to the pads of mic built-in. I think that it is problem of software filtering because when engine is off, sounds doesn't rattle, the volumen is not to high but the comunication is steady, but when i start the engine, conversation gets cuts. maybe engine sound is interfering with the mic built-in mic. I will update progresions.
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even my above car android unit has mic problem. it does not recognize the voice commands unless spoken very close to the mic, which is not practical
Also, Bluetooth calls are intermittently heard (with Airtel). But when switched to JIO simcard, works fine.
Please can anyone support with a solution on both the issues
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In short for helping anyone that has the same problem
I have a Bosion D6 android (android 10 version – 4 gb ram 64 storage, 8-core) head unit on my Ford Focus mk2.
Everything was perfect expect the microphone, even after I installed the external mic that came with it, the sound was poor and my listeners’ complaint that the quality of the conversation was not very good.
Read tons of stuff here and elsewhere so I decided to spend some money (around 20€) and bought a Sony microphone XA-MC10 to replace the Chinese original (since I have read some good reviews and you can find it in your local market also)
The difference was more than noticeable and everyone now listen to me perfect. i test it myslef through the sound recorder app and it seems like going from say 64kbits/s to 146kbits/s or more.
I don't want to open another thread because the problem is similar.
When I connect with iphone carplay, the interlocutor often hears me jerky, I tried both internal microphone and external also cutting the internal one to exclude it but nothing.
Using the application "microphone amplifier" and applying the filters instead it feels perfectly, but obviously every time it should start and set, so very boring.
Tried to use MTK Engineering mode to change the mic volume, but it doesn't solve completely.
Anyone have any ideas to try?
Thank you in advance
Did anyone ever find a solution to sounding really quiet to the person your calling? Cheers

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