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Hi,
Since my Hermes fell off the table people keep complaining that they have problems hearing my voice while talking on the phone. They say the volume of my voice is too low. When using a headset everything's fine.
I've never had a problem like that, nevertheless I dismantled the Hermes to see if there was anything wrong with the microphone after the fall, but it seemed ok.
I also recorded my own voice using the voice recorder in WM6 to test the microphone and strangely enough my voice sounds pretty loud and clear to me.
After some googling I found that many people seem to have a problem with their voice barely being heard by other people on the phone.
Solutions I could not find and I do not understand why that problem has occurred after the Hermes fell down, as it seems to be software-related (otherwise my mic-test would have resulted in a low-volume recording, which it did not).
Has anyone here had that problem and found a solution?
Well, I've solved the problem, although not by the means I originally wanted to. I just did a recovery of a Backup from before the day the Hermes fell down and voila - everything works again as it should (although I still don't get it how the phone falling down can change the SOFTWARE, but hey, as long as it works).
Again we see the importance of regular backups.
I had this problem before. tried to fix it but didn't work. Flashed all sorts of roms, all didn't work. Even newly flashed roms still had this problem.
Headset is fine
but just speaking into the mic isn't.
Same as you, recording works fine too, but mic to phone just doesn't work. I am curious how did you dissasemble your phone though, do you have a manual or something?
I had this problem before. tried to fix it but didn't work. Flashed all sorts of roms, all didn't work. Even newly flashed roms still had this problem.
Headset is fine
but just speaking into the mic isn't.
Same as you, recording works fine too, but mic to phone just doesn't work. I am curious how did you dissasemble your phone though, do you have a manual or something?
Hi again,
Well, the problem's back again. Even after resetting the Hermes at first it worked fine, but later people complained again that my voice was too low. So it seems that the problem is first solved by resetting/backup recovery, but then reappears. Don't know how that is possible, but I fear that it is indeed hardware-related.
Has anyone any suggestions as to what I can do?
Am I right in assuming that the hole next to the one for resetting the phone is for the microphone? Because when I dismantled my Hermes the corresponding part did not look like a microphone at all. Here's a picture of what I am talking about:
Is the part where the black rubber-thingy (circled below) that easily falls off when dismantling is placed over the microphone?
As for the dismanteling, go there:
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
and search for "Hermes", there are some nice guides there.
I appreciate any hints that could lead to me solving this problem.
Update:
I've been searching for corresponding Registry Entries and so far have found these:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Control Panel/Phone
Changing "Vol" to 65535 increased the mic volume a little bit, but it was still too low for being acceptable (I have been testing the volume by placing my Hermes next to my PC speaker while playing an audiobook at a normal volume and calling my landline as to see how it sounds).
See also here for the thread where I found this info.
I also found these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-260171.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-256734.html
My Values at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\AUDIOGAINx were originally at 18 and 19. I changed them first to AA and this did, or so it seemed, increase the volume more notably. Changing the Values to CC however changed little compared to AA (although this should make the mic even louder). I may be mistaken, but I even think that the quality was better with AA.
I am not familiar with the actual volume of the mic at the receiver's end, but in my opinion the volume was pretty ok. I will call a few of the people who have been complaining and see what they have to say about the volume.
Update:
I just called my brother and he said my voice was as low as before, so my modifications had no effect.
Next thing I will try is to totally disassemble my Hermes and put it back together so to check every connection that might have gone loose.
Update: Dismantled it totally (except for the screen part) - didn't help either.
Seems like there is no solution to this problem. Most likely I will have to get a replacement. This sucks.
HI
Exactly the same problem here.
(No phone audio but Note recording & Headset works fine)
Only the phone was not dropped. Just happened !
Did a reset but did'nt wok either !
Phones in great condition.
Like you though it was a Software Issue
How much was a new mic ?
Can it be economically soldered on ?
Is there no solution whatsoever ?
Please keep me updated
Many Thanks
Sampler100
Hi Sampler,
In the end I found no solution to my problem. Got myself a Vario III and am using that one ever since.
Please let me know if you find anything that can solve this.
Greets,
Cartman
Some of these problems (I don't say all) may be caused by damage to the mini USB port and the fine wires inside it. The port has wiring related to sound both earpiece and Mic. As you know connecting a handsfree headset cuts off the Mic and earpiece, so you can see that damage to the port or bend pins inside it can cause Mic problems. This may be why sound recording is fine, but in phone mode the Mic is cut off.
I say this only to avoid the assumption that the Mic is damaged (it may be), but it can also be the port and associated wiring that causes the problem. If you are dismantling check the solder contacts around the USB port for cracks and also for bent pins in the socket.
Mike
Anyone else have this problem? Everytime I call anyone they say I sound like a robot and they can barely understand me, its definitely the phone and wondering if this is a common issue or I just need to go replace my phone. Also being inside the 14 day return, can i just go in there and get another phone from tmobile or do i have to send it off?
i had a similar problem, i was on the phone with my gf the other night while in a car and she couldn't understand me because of all the noise, this may be because there is no second noise canceling mic. the funny thing is when i use to call on my g1 it wasn't a problem and that phone only has one mic, this is making me reconsider and go back to HTC
With all the phones getting noise canceling mics, I am starting to wonder if they really help alot....iPhone, Nexus, Droid X even has 2...
I saw some vid test of iPhone noise canceling and it didnt seem to work.....
2071 said:
i had a similar problem, i was on the phone with my gf the other night while in a car and she couldn't understand me because of all the noise, this may be because there is no second noise canceling mic. the funny thing is when i use to call on my g1 it wasn't a problem and that phone only has one mic, this is making me reconsider and go back to HTC
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Take the phone back and exchange it for a new handset. I have no problems at all. After reading this post, I even tested it out and called a few friends and asked them if they could hear me ok both on the phone and on speaker.
If you're talking about the HTC HD2, that's the worst OS ever. Windows? Seriously? Over Android?
Well, if it's any help:
My first Vibrant had a faulty headphone jack, that would short out at the slightest touch. I'm talking: 'brush-the-cable-or-jack-and-it-shorts' shorting out. It was completely unacceptable.
And that's what kind of worries me with the phone. It doesn't rattle or anything, and is solid in terms of plastic construction -- but it just feels cheap.
I guess we'll find out more in the coming weeks. Thanks for reporting that microphone issue. I'll be asking my friends to report on my voice quality to ensure that mine is working properly.
I have the exact same problem....this only after I rooted... what the heck is going on?
There's no automatic gain control. The mic input easily clips. Most other devices adjust the input to the noise floor where a loud voice easily walks over the background.
Any solujtion guys?
I don't have any solution, but I can't hear and they can't hear me when I'm driving in my car. Never was an issue with my G1 or MT3G. I've been using the headphone w/mic that came with the phone for when I'm driving. (to cheap to buy a bluetooth headset) I did cut one of the sides off of that so it's just for one ear now. (left the side with the mic obviously.)
As of about 2 weeks now, i have been getting this same complaint from a few people. They used the exact term "u sound like a robot or something" i have no clue what it may be and im past my 14days, thinking about just calling tmobile and complaining b/c its getting annoying.
$5 says one of you in this thread has your finger over the mic hole... just saying.
I noticed through the Bluetooth in my car which has always worked flawlessly my Vibrant comes through as having really muffled scratchy sounds at times. Full signal strength. I sound bad and the person talking sounds bad. This works flawlessly with my 5800, 3 iPhones, E65. All on the same routes I use every day.
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$5 says one of you in this thread has your finger over the mic hole... just saying.
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I tried that and it didn't help. The microphone was saturated and clipping. The other party couldn't hear anything over the noise.
while driving I have been told that I sound like I am under water.
this was one of the reasons, I traded in mine for a new unit. waiting on a fix
this happens to me especially when i'm driving and i have the air on high. Im sure it doesn't help that i have a 3inch exhaust and a big turbo making noise either though
I have the same problem on my UK version (Galaxy S).
I have tinkered with the voice TX levels in one of the service menus but it made no difference. No matter how loud I speak into the mic it never gets louder at the other end! It's only just audible and it's driving my friends mad to the point where they can't be ar5ed to phone me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks guys.
I just want to jump in here even though this is an old thread so i can log my complaint too - the voice quality of the mic microphone on this phone is really poor - i am under the 14 days return and i'm am really close close to returning both of them i bought... anybody come up with a fix? A replacement microphone with better quality would probly go a long way.
I've been getting complaints from the other side as well. Even when using the voice recorder it doesn't sound very clear. I've been using the headset a lot, but I don't think its any better w/o it. Oh and also, often I try to use voice search and it says i didn't say anything... I then plug unplug and then it works. Dunno whats going on.
Also, I put it to charge yesterday, and it wouldn't turn on - only the home keys were lighting up. So I pulled out the battery and it smelled burned. Still does 24 hours later.
But it seems to be working fine anyway.
How long does warranty replacement take if ur past 30 days?
Thanks!
The vibrant is pretty much unless for me for phone calls. I switched back to my nokia N900. i can not make phone call from in my car the people on the other line can not hear me at all. Even in quiet areas its still muffled/choppy. My finger is not over the mic hole. My nokia has no problems with this at all even in a very very loud car with the windows down going 60.
I am having issues with the mic on the iconia. Volume is pretty low. While using gtalk the other side can barely hear me. Has anyone else been experiencing this?
Same here. Testing Fring and using the built-in mic or a headset mic, it is impossible to hear what I am saying. There is no mic adjustment in the Fring app and I can't find one in the tablet settings? Am I missing something that should be very obvious? How do you adjust microphone senstivity?
same problem with gtalk. It's sometime hard to hear what I say
I ve been having the same issues with gtalk. Havent tried any other voip app yet.
Mic works fine in voice recording apps though, so it can't be hardware related.
Maybe honeycomb issue??
Where are the mics?
i think the mic is atthe top of the screen in the crack dead center .click the vol up and click on the/pop up the middle i think is the mic volume .if/im/wrong sorry
I have the same problem on my galaxy tab 10.1 but mic volume seems low on all apps.
Just got the a500 and have experience similar results, mic volume is extremely low.
I have tried it with various voice apps, including gtalk, voice recorder, camcorder, etc, and the voice is really low.
Im begining to wonder that this is a hardware issue.
Is this issue consistent with all a500s? or only some models?
My mic is so low volume as to be virtrually useless. I tried plugging in an external mic and that was slightly better but not enough.
When using the voice recorder app I notice that the meter hardly moves off the stop, something wrong here.
I wonder if this issue is more common than it should be?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162054
But some people here have said their mic is fine. I am going to check a few out in the shops and see if they are any better. Really, at the moment it's not suitable for skype or google talk which is what I got it for.
I still think its a honeycomb noise canceling issue. Plug In headphones while u record and u will see the difference.
I bought a second A500 yesterday and the microphone records my voice far better than the unit I've had for almost 2 weeks. With the old unit I can barely hear what I speak, but the new one I can hear myself clearly. Manufacturing date of the old one is may, the new one is manufactured in april. It did not get the 3.1 update yet so it's still running stock 3.01. One other thing I like about the new one I just got is that the volume buttons work a bit easier and don't require as much force to push them down.
Rob
silverball.slayer said:
I bought a second A500 yesterday and the microphone records my voice far better than the unit I've had for almost 2 weeks. With the old unit I can barely hear what I speak, but the new one I can hear myself clearly. Manufacturing date of the old one is may, the new one is manufactured in april. It did not get the 3.1 update yet so it's still running stock 3.01. One other thing I like about the new one I just got is that the volume buttons work a bit easier and don't require as much force to push them down.
Rob
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That's the key right there.
It's a software problem not a material one.
I experienced the exact same thing as you.
Bought a new tablet and tested the mic with stock 3.0.1. The volume was fine.
Updated to 3.1 and the volume was very low.
Well, my mic sucks in a big way. I tried many times to use google talk, tango and so on with horrible results. I have to yell like crazy and they can barely hear me.
So... as a lot of ppl are complaiing and it's a software problem, is it possible they do nothing to solve it????? It shouldn't be that difficult...
dominuspaulus said:
I am having issues with the mic on the iconia. Volume is pretty low. While using gtalk the other side can barely hear me. Has anyone else been experiencing this?
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I opened up my acer and moved the microphone to the front because before when recordingi couldnt catch a sound coming from recording eg. a person talking.
Now I can at least hear the voices of the people im filming.
For gtalk and skype and stuff i use a headphone set with a mic via the headphones jack, much nicer.
Cheers!
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I opened up my acer and moved the microphone to the front because before when recordingi couldnt catch a sound coming from recording eg. a person talking.
Now I can at least hear the voices of the people im filming.
For gtalk and skype and stuff i use a headphone set with a mic via the headphones jack, much nicer.
Cheers!
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You don't say things like these and not tell us the how's and the what's. For example, what headset did you use? How did you move the mic to front?
BTW, I'm on 3.1 and have never had an issue with the mic. Just did a recording while I was driving and talking. Still sounds pretty good to me.
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You don't say things like these and not tell us the how's and the what's. For example, what headset did you use? How did you move the mic to front?
BTW, I'm on 3.1 and have never had an issue with the mic. Just did a recording while I was driving and talking. Still sounds pretty good to me.
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There is actually a thread further back if you bother to look that I opened and described everything and also uploaded a video to see the mic improvement.
Edit: Here is my thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169050
Edit: Headset I used is a brand called EXIBEL Art.no 38-4061, cheap and works PERFECTLY I can hear and be heard as if in the room.
same issues. Sound seems to just stop as well after I use camcorder
Mine works well on any app except gtalk. Although I recently installed voodoo on my rooted Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the mic adjustments helped. Without Voodoo I usually just plug in headphones when I use gtalk and that solves the issue 100%.
For those who think the answer would be an obvious "yes, why the hell wouldn't it?", I don't blame you, I would too, but please see here (tl;dr: the Nexus 7 doesn't). If/when you have access to one, would you please test it by lightly blowing or tapping on the headset's mic? On the N7 thread there were several people that got confused cause the tablet's own mic was picking up their voice anyway and they thought it was the headset's.
i didn't bother reading the entire thread you linked, but from what i could gather, it was stated by google, it should work for the n7. given that the thread was opened in july, when the n7 was still really new, i would agree with the theory that the plug was not it far enough. the same thing was going on with my phone (sgs2), when it was new and people on the forum were worried that the handsfree wouldn't work. in the end, the solution was, "try again, push harder" and then it worked for everybody.
why would they leave out this feature? doesn't make much sense. also, even if they would (and they wouldn't!), it'd still be possible to use a bluetooth stereo headset for both music and mic.
I am as confused as you are as to why they would leave it out, but in that thread it was confirmed independently by various parties, including ifixit, a response from google support, and even some that tested before and said it worked, but then admitted they were wrong when testing via tapping the mic. Besides it not working, a teardown reveals that the jack is TRS (regular stereo headphones) not TRRS (4-connector).
Since that post was started, there's been even more confirmation. When I searched for it that's the only place I could find discussing it, but now if you google for it you can find other threads as well.
Re:bluetooth alternatives. That's OK for communications apps, but for stuff like recording apps it's a problem. If there's one thing Android is lagging WAY behind than iOS is recording apps. Also many apps have BT issues depending on device, Groove IP doesn't work well with it on my N7, and not even on my GB Samsung phone, for which it does work for regular carrier calls -- there's also some BT issues in the thread.
N7 does not have mic in capability via headphone socket.
I record a lot of music and to be able to plug in a mic would be great as I did with my iPod touch, but Google left that bit out for some stupid reason.
N10 would be wise to have it included.
Sent from my Nexus 7
You will just have to wait and see after someone buys one and checks it out.It is all guesswork before then.We all guessed wrong on the N7.
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You will just have to wait and see after someone buys one and checks it out.It is all guesswork before then.We all guessed wrong on the N7.
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The Nexus 10 uses a Wolfson audio chip and the 7 uses something else; if that's what controls recording, you can see if a device with a similar chip (like the Galaxy S) has that feature.
I honestly have no idea if that's what determines recording capabilities, so don't make fun of me if I'm wrong lol
Anyone experience any issues with Nexus 10 and its mic? I tested google voice and video chat with couple different people and they all had hard time hearing me. I had to talk louder than usual or even almost scream for them to hear me. They're reporting it always sounds muffled or the audio cuts off.
The video feed is coming in fine and I know my network connection isn't an issue. Wondering if anyone else is having similar issue and whether I should contact Google for a replacement.
Thanks!
Edit: Seems like I was able to figure out the issue. I removed the back panel and tested it and the audio is coming through fine. It seems the cover isn't aligned properly over the mic hole. I contacted Google and am getting it replaced.
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Anyone experience any issues with Nexus 10 and its mic? I tested google voice and video chat with couple different people and they all had hard time hearing me. I had to talk louder than usual or even almost scream for them to hear me. They're reporting it always sounds muffled or the audio cuts off.
The video feed is coming in fine and I know my network connection isn't an issue. Wondering if anyone else is having similar issue and whether I should contact Google for a replacement.
Thanks!
Edit: Seems like I was able to figure out the issue. I removed the back panel and tested it and the audio is coming through fine. It seems the cover isn't aligned properly over the mic hole. I contacted Google and am getting it replaced.
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So does it work now? My friend has just got one and whenever he calls me on Google Hanouts, his audio works for a few seconds, then gets muffled and choppy - I can't understand him at all......