[Q] the unlocked nexus 4 will be sold in t-mobile stores without a 2 years contract? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone, this end of the month I will go on vacation in New York from Italy, and I'd love to buy the new nexus 4, but obviously I can not use the play store not having neither a credit card nor a U.S. place of dispatch . I saw, however, that tmobile will sell in their stores, I was wondering if in addition to the version with contract tmobile also sold only the phone, just in case a higher price than the playstore 349usd. thank you very much in advance.

"Rumor" has it T-Mobile USA will market it up to $ 500.00 without a contract (witch I find ridiculous) BUT that hasn't been confirmed .. At this point they are all speculations.

VictorNYC said:
"Rumor" has it T-Mobile USA will market up to $ 500.00 with out a contact (witch I find ridiculous) BUT that hasn't been confirmed .. At this point buddy they are all speculations.
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thank you dear, I'll see to seek confirmation of these rumors, in the meantime look for some other user to know something more

If the markup turns out to be ridiculous (charging 500 USD for a 350 USD phone) then call your hotel (or wherever you're staying) and see if you can get packages delivered there. The delivery should take less than 5-6 business days, so it's doable if you're staying in America more than a week. If that's not the case, then you could always find a quick free vpn trial, vpn to America and purchase the phone before you get here so it's at your hotel before you are (just have them hold it if they will, again make sure it's ok before you do so). Good luck! Enjoy your stay!

Vertana said:
If the markup turns out to be ridiculous (charging 500 USD for a 350 USD phone) then call your hotel (or wherever you're staying) and see if you can get packages delivered there. The delivery should take less than 5-6 business days, so it's doable if you're staying in America more than a week. If that's not the case, then you could always find a quick free vpn trial, vpn to America and purchase the phone before you get here so it's at your hotel before you are (just have them hold it if they will, again make sure it's ok before you do so). Good luck! Enjoy your stay!
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Unfortunately my problem is: to buy something on playstore U.S. you have to pay with a American credit card , which unfortunately (and I would say of course ) I did not. I had also thought to send me the N4 to the apartment but would be very risky and unreliable. the only solution would be to find someone who will buy me , but who has all this trust in others?
ps: I'd buy it for 500usd I must admit, that the currency exchange is always much less than 549euros that would 700usd. I would only confirm that it is sold in tmobile stores

0714 said:
Unfortunately my problem is: to buy something on playstore U.S. you have to pay with a American credit card , which unfortunately (and I would say of course ) I did not. I had also thought to send me the N4 to the apartment but would be very risky and unreliable. the only solution would be to find someone who will buy me , but who has all this trust in others?
ps: I'd buy it for 500usd I must admit, that the currency exchange is always much less than 549euros that would 700usd. I would only confirm that it is sold in tmobile stores
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Really the trust only has to go one way. If you are willing to take the chance then you pay in advance and you are the only one that needs to trust. If you want the other person to send the phone without getting paid first then that person is the only one that needs to trust someone. You could check with some bank to be the go between and let them hold your money until they get the phone.

donec said:
Really the trust only has to go one way. If you are willing to take the chance then you pay in advance and you are the only one that needs to trust. If you want the other person to send the phone without getting paid first then that person is the only one that needs to trust someone. You could check with some bank to be the go between and let them hold your money until they get the phone.
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it is still a complicated and difficult to accomplish. whether I trusted, to give money to someone I do not know (which I do not think I'd do) and if someone you trust to loan me the money. not to mention that I would only public transportation in a city that does not know to pick up the box. of course now I will try other solutions and this will take it into consideration only as a last choice. plus I also find this person that would make me the favor. thanks anyway for your suggestion.
however, still no news / certainty that n4 is sold without a contract?

has anyone had any new news about my question?

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What a shame!

Yes it's a shame that the globalized Google decided to sell N1 in USA and GB only...available in the rest of Europe in the spring...
Really I can't understand why after cloning iPhone customization (and not only...) Google decided also to clone the commercial strategy of the earliest Iphone 2G...Soon Apple realized that there were more iphone in Europe than in USA LOL!!!
Now how to get one in Italy? Who want to buy one for me...
THX in advance!
check e-bay...many on there for sale with worldwide shipping
icon57 said:
check e-bay...many on there for sale with worldwide shipping
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What about the activation button? Does anyone know if there is some kind of activation that binds the phone to the google account from where it is bought (or is this button only for the t-mobile phone)?
Is there anything else to consider before buying it (except the high price) from ebay and using it in Europe?
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check e-bay...many on there for sale with worldwide shipping
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Thanx for your answer.
I checked ebay and it would cost about 250$ over the real price. Really too much.
no, it only binds it to your google checkout account, not your gmail account.
so you will be able to activate it where you are
It may suck but different markets get different phones at different times. I don't know how many times I have seen a really cool phone only to discover that it will never hit the shores here in the US. This time it worked out that we got the phone.
I guess it comes down to you win some you loose some.
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It may suck but different markets get different phones at different times. I don't know how many times I have seen a really cool phone only to discover that it will never hit the shores here in the US. This time it worked out that we got the phone.
I guess it comes down to you win some you loose some.
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Yes maybe you are right...but not considering a whole market like europe...like italy, where people go on purcheasing technology also in a bad economic period, would be an error!
Let me get one first. Then I can get into shipping out of country. I own an IT business and I have create multiple google accounts under that and perhaps get 5 for each account I make up. I want to make sure the phone can be activated etc before I start ordering phones that may not work later (screwing me and screwing others).
icon57 said:
no, it only binds it to your google checkout account, not your gmail account.
so you will be able to activate it where you are
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That means you have to activate it with the same checkout acc that buys the phone or just that you have to activate it with an us, uk, .. account?
seraph1024 said:
Let me get one first. Then I can get into shipping out of country. I own an IT business and I have create multiple google accounts under that and perhaps get 5 for each account I make up. I want to make sure the phone can be activated etc before I start ordering phones that may not work later (screwing me and screwing others).
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You have a PM
Eggii said:
That means you have to activate it with the same checkout acc that buys the phone or just that you have to activate it with an us, uk, .. account?
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I'll let you know once I get the phone.
Eggii said:
That means you have to activate it with the same checkout acc that buys the phone or just that you have to activate it with an us, uk, .. account?
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I believe 'activation' refers only to if you are just starting a new wireless plan. if you already have a SIM card, it should work right away, I think. someone please correct me if I'm wrong
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check e-bay...many on there for sale with worldwide shipping
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Yeah, at the 150% price
I'm also in Italy at the moment and I have mine on the way only I don't know if my method would work for you. I'm stationed in Sicily for the time being and I used a site called shipitapo.com. Not sure if this site would work for you but I'm willing to bet there is something similar. As for the purchasing part I just went to google checkout and setup my account so all the information was already in the system, including shipping address and credit card. Then I had my brother who is in the states log into my google account and purchase it for me. He just had to click a couple of links and because everything was already setup. Now its on the way. hopefully you can find something similar. Might be able to use a US proxy to be able to log into you google account and purchase it.
@SpiersA
good idea! I should need a brother, and in usa! About shipitapo.com, it's because Google won't ship it abroad?
Well, according to the iPhone wiki there are 6.4 million iPhones (of 33 million total) in the US alone. Considering Google is an American company, and the App Marketplace had first purchasing support in the US as well, it makes sense to distribute a handset with this much probably popularity in the areas that are easier to support first. Not to mention they partnered with T-Mobile US (an existing partner) for subsidized handset sales and will likely get a huge bump in volume just from that alone.
I have to agree with the earlier comment about how often I've seen really nice phones only to have them never show up in the US (or after they've already become quite out of date). It's nice having top-tier phones start in the US first and then move out from here. A truly global launch with so many new moving parts at once (new hardware, new version of the OS that might not be fully localized yet, thousands of market apps that still don't work with the DROID, etc) would be a total nightmare and make no sense at all.
And yesss...I found how to place an order from all over the world. Just placed mine from Italy. It has been easy...I will reveal it ad soon as I get shipping confirmation!
asci said:
Yes it's a shame that the globalized Google decided to sell N1 in USA and GB only...available in the rest of Europe in the spring...
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It wasn't actually that bad looking back eh?

Buying an HD2 Telstra T9193 for $299! Is this real?

Hey so I have been searching for the best place to buy a HD2 T9193 so I can use it on AT&T US 3G network. Everywhere I look, there seems to a consensus of anywhere from $800-1000. Then I find this guy, who's hotmail email address is cherryda78, who is selling them for $299 plus shipping. After emailing him he says would be $30. Here are some of the ads he has up online.
**So apparently I cannot post links because I am a new user. I copied the links to a .txt and attached it to this post. How I do I go about getting verified btw?**
I emailed him and he responded the next day with this. Below is our email thread:
Mr. Cherry Da,
I am interested in purchasing the HTC HD2 phone you have listed here and here (these were links). I have been dreaming of this phone for about 4 months now, and to get it would be just amazing. I know you can unlock the radio and run it on US 3G with AT&T. I do have some questions though. You have the phone listed for $299 USD. Is that correct? It seems much lower than most other sites right now, so I am pleasantly surprised but cautiously skeptical. Could you please provide some more information for me? How come you are offering it at such a great price?
Thank you so much!
YES.
HTC TOUCH HD2 T9193 LEO 3G Unlocked USD$299
shipping cost USD$30 for 1 pcs by EMS,DHL,UPS,FedEx
Total USD$329 for 1 pcs including shipping and insurance
we are receive your payment within 1 days arrange shipping your order
and tell you tracking no
within 3-4 days arrive your door.
Paypal:we can not accept paypal,because we can not draw out the money here
only accept Via bank Transfer or western union in our here
We DO NOT accept payments via Credit Cards and cheque.
WE DON'T OFFER CASH ON DELIVERY.
As below is my business record:
Online Tracking EE247528524CN
Your item was delivered(COMMENWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA 810) at 2010-03-03 14:48:00
Signed for by:J KING
 
Timing Site Status
  2010-02-25 19:14:00 SHENZHEN Posting
Seems very shady to me, but for $300, I almost want to take the gamble. My question is if anyone has bought a HD2 from this guy, or would buy. Also, what has everyone paid for your phone? And where did you get it?
Thanks!
Telstra doesn't even sell it that cheap... so fishy...
it is either fake or stolen.
Hahaha Western Union or Bank Transfer - so you have absolutely NO recourse when (not if) this transaction goes south.
"Commenwealth" of Australia? Really?
If you want to throw out $330, send it to me instead!
The same guy is selling the Supersonic for €236! Does HTC have a massive leak in their supplychain that they are totally unaware of?
Please don't send this guy your money. The price is huge red flag and the Western Union or bank transfer only is an even larger red flag. If you send this guy your money you'll never see it again and you'll never receive the phone. This is a scam.
Hmm, poor broken english + only accepts western union or bank wire transfer + rediculous low price = SCAM to me. If it sounds to good to be true.....
don't, just ..... don't
Of course it is a scam.
scam.... Run, run very far.
chinese copy, gotta be, put the phrase
HTC TOUCH HD2 T9193 LEO 3G Unlocked USD$299
into google and there are dozens of hits, dollars, euros, and in one the company info is a pda manufacturer in china.
HD2 9193 is the best phone
Telstra charges AU$829.00 outright or AU$80/month for 24 months (but the call rate of Telstra is extremely high).
so $329 is fake or scam
Don't even think about it.
I work for Telstra, and there is no way that anyone can sell a Telstra Branded HD2 for that price. As mentioned earlier, if you buy it outright from a Telstra Shop it costs over A$800. You may be able to find a slightly used one for around A$700 on eBay.
As someone else pointed out,
Commenwealth of Australia, that should of been your first giveaway.
I tell ya, I know you want the phone...We all do but, be careful.
Any one that will not take a credit card for a high dollar purchase
is someone you need to avoid.
Ebay is the best or Amazon. At least you can track your
order by purchase.
Buy it and give us some feedback
buy it,I pay you $350.
Don't do it! My brother did the same thing on a weight machine set that was for $400 n normally it goes for $1200 n he send a money order n never got the weight machine n he couldn't do anything about it. Its a scam!! Don't do it!!
Scam
This definitely sounds like a scam, it will either not arrive and you can say goodbye to your cash, or it will be a cheap imitation. I know someone who bought a iPhone (idiot!) through ebay and it turned out to be some other type of handset with an 'iPhone looking' case. Didn't even look like an iPhone next to a real one.... avoid!
Scam, scam... If you want to get one cheaper, look in XDA's own marketplace (I picked one up for £310, maybe $550)
Thanks everyone
smeddy said:
Scam, scam... If you want to get one cheaper, look in XDA's own marketplace (I picked one up for £310, maybe $550)
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Thanks for the thoughts. I thought it was a scam too, but I figured I would use the power of XDA to be sure.
Thanks for the Marketplace tip. I'm a noob to the smartphone world (but rapidly learning). This site is AWESOME!
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Thanks for the thoughts. I thought it was a scam too, but I figured I would use the power of XDA to be sure.
Thanks for the Marketplace tip. I'm a noob to the smartphone world (but rapidly learning). This site is AWESOME!
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Cool! hope you found the Marketplace okay. If not, click xda-developers at the top-left of this page, and the fourth or so forum down should be the one

buying a locked galaxy tab

hi everyone
happy new year
i have a question and i hope you guys can help me
i have family in Germany and USA and i thought maybe i can buy a galaxy tab from there and they send it to me, because it's 800$ in my country and i can buy one for 399$ in the USA (AT&T) and 199Euro (O2 and vodafone) in Germany (with contact)
now i want to know whether it's possible to buy one and unlock it?
AT&T says it's 2 year contact. does it mean you have to pay monthly for 2years even if you don't use their services? can they sue you or it's ok if you cancel the contract and keep the device for 399$ you paid at first?
i don't want my uncle to get in trouble
and one more thing
if i get one and even if i couldn't unlock it, can i still use the device? like for video, office programs and most importantly it's wifi.
i heard you must activate it first. can i somehow ignore/skip it?
thank you so much in advance
i hope you have a great year
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now i want to know whether it's possible to buy one and unlock it?
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Yes, you can unlock it.
AT&T says it's 2 year contact. does it mean you have to pay monthly for 2years even if you don't use their services? can they sue you or it's ok if you cancel the contract and keep the device for 399$ you paid at first?
i don't want my uncle to get in trouble
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A contract is a contract, regardless of whether you use the services or not, so yes you are supposed to pay. If you wish to terminate early, you need to pay an "Early Termination Fee" (see here). I would guess this means the ETF for a Tab is $325, which would mean you'd have been better off paying $649 for the device in the first place.
And yes, they can pursue you for this - in order to get a contract phone in the US, you need a credit check which means a social security number is required, so they can track down whomever purchased the device relatively easily.
Note, I'm not in the US, so some of this information may be out of date/incorrect, but I know as of 18 months ago getting a cell phone on contract without an SSN was almost impossible!
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Dave
If you get one in Germany, you can have it unlocked right there. According to German law IIRC, they are required to unlock it for you if you ask them. They are allowed to charge a small fee for it, usually around 50€. Still a good deal.
Maybe someone from germany can confirm or refute this?
thanks Dave and Rapax for fast answers
i think it's better if i buy an unlocked one
they both (AT&T and vodafone) charge for internet connections which i won't be able to use so it does'nt worse
Rapax, vodafone price is 199euro and 40 each month, you mean i can get the device for 199 and pay 50 more to unlock?
i'm not sure if it sounds right
you can have an unlocked galaxy tab for 250euro? i'm getting one immediately
MahZi said:
thanks Dave and Rapax for fast answers
i think it's better if i buy an unlocked one
they both (AT&T and vodafone) charge for internet connections which i won't be able to use so it does'nt worse
Rapax, vodafone price is 199euro and 40 each month, you mean i can get the device for 199 and pay 50 more to unlock?
i'm not sure if it sounds right
you can have an unlocked galaxy tab for 250euro? i'm getting one immediately
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Don't forget that the contract will still run, unlocking doesn't change that. So it's 199+50+24*40 = 1,209€ Not such a bargain, is it?
i will definitly not buy one
i thought it's gonna cost cheaper that way
you guys don't know a better way?
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i will definitly not buy one
i thought it's gonna cost cheaper that way
you guys don't know a better way?
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Buy one from the UK for £407, all in with no contract and already unlocked.
Regards,
Dave
look on ebay.
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Buy one from the UK for £407, all in with no contract and already unlocked.
Regards,
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thanks Dave, i'll see if i can find someone in UK
LargePrime said:
look on ebay.
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oh no, i have bad experience with used devices
but thanks
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oh no, i have bad experience with used devices
but thanks
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They have new ones.
Honestly you can get 4 used ones for that price. That's a lot of spare parts!
And returns are easy. But, As you wish...
You want GSM version only,right?
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They have new ones.
Honestly you can get 4 used ones for that price. That's a lot of spare parts!
And returns are easy. But, As you wish...
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yeah i understand what you say but my relatives over there are not technology friends. they can't test the device to see if it's ok (just the look of it)
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You want GSM version only,right?
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yes i want GSM version
actually i'm not gonna use it as a phone but GT is the only good thing i found that offers my need (light, small and touch). i'm paying for phone part but i won't use it
maybe i have to wait for ipad 7inch or maybe i should buy an Archos 70it
help me
Do you want to wait? If so there are some great things coming. We will see a doubling of power and storage within 6 months.
There should be a wifi only version out soon, which might meet your needs.
Conversely, find a ebay new product that will ship to you. Worse case you waste cash on shipping. still way cheaper.
I read galaxy tab wifi-only version is comming in Q1 this year
it's great news for me
I hope it's 400 not 500
so i wait
in the mean time, do you guys know other options for me? i mean other devices

Shipping to Kuwait

I understand this is not exactly a Nexus S related query, but any help will be appreciated.
I'm not from the US ... live in Kuwait. I've asked a friend to get me the phone as I tried my best to get it ... proxy, bestbuy, paypal ... all of it gave me a lot of NOs.
As per the tracking no. my friend will be getting the phone tomorrow. I've asked him to use it for 2 days to check for the known problems (I've send him a list)
My query/ questions is:
He lives in Saratoga, CA (the phone was shipped from Palatine, IL (almost across). Now, once he has done his testing, I would like him to ship it to an Aramex mailbox I have got in Springfield Gardens, NY (yeah again, all the way back across the US). Can someone tell me which would be the cheapest, safest and yeah quickest way for it to be shipped from CA to New York?
I really don't want to trouble him and tell him to check out which is the cheapest, so if one of you'll know, I'd really appreciate guidance.
Thanks & Cheers
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I understand this is not exactly a Nexus S related query, but any help will be appreciated.
I'm not from the US ... live in Kuwait. I've asked a friend to get me the phone as I tried my best to get it ... proxy, bestbuy, paypal ... all of it gave me a lot of NOs.
As per the tracking no. my friend will be getting the phone tomorrow. I've asked him to use it for 2 days to check for the known problems (I've send him a list)
My query/ questions is:
He lives in Saratoga, CA (the phone was shipped from Palatine, IL (almost across). Now, once he has done his testing, I would like him to ship it to an Aramex mailbox I have got in Springfield Gardens, NY (yeah again, all the way back across the US). Can someone tell me which would be the cheapest, safest and yeah quickest way for it to be shipped from CA to New York?
I really don't want to trouble him and tell him to check out which is the cheapest, so if one of you'll know, I'd really appreciate guidance.
Thanks & Cheers
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US Postal Service (aka the mail) is the cheapest shipping out there, especially across country.
Fed Ex and United Parcel Service can be a little quicker, but they charge a big premium for it.
If your friend does use Postal Service, tell him to buy the extra insurance coverage...it will be a small amount, and a waste of money in the end, but better to be safe than sorry if it's lost or damaged...
edit: PS, you can go online for any of the big three and check rates yourself, by the way...
Thanks distortedloop
Like you've advised, I'll ask him to go the postal service route with insurance.
Went to the usps.gov site, but could not figure out how things work so gave up on it. Will tell my friend to do it.
Thanks again.
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Thanks distortedloop
Like you've advised, I'll ask him to go the postal service route with insurance.
Went to the usps.gov site, but could not figure out how things work so gave up on it. Will tell my friend to do it.
Thanks again.
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Hmmm...try this link: http://postcalc.usps.gov/
Should take you straight to the Domestic Rate calculator. Enter to and from zip codes, package size/weight, and class of mail.
FedEx Charged me 170 US From states to Kuwait.
I asked in Ebay some told me 125 some 150.
I payed 170 cause combined price was cheaper than the others.
Peace.

Note 3 blocked by T-Mobile, need advice

Hey guys, i've got a problem and I need some advice/options.
Long story short, as some of you may know, I bought my T-Mobile branded Note 3 on Swappa in November. Of course, Swappa says that they check IMEIs and the seller assured me that the phone was fully paid for, but a few days ago my Note 3 was blocked/blacklisted (whatever you call it) by T-Mobile for non-payment of EIP.
I have tried to resolve the issue through communicating with the seller and Swappa, but there's really nothing to be done. The seller won't refund my money, Swappa is powerless, and Paypal says the transaction is past their 45 day dispute period. The phone isn't even unlocked, so I can't even try and use it on another carrier right now.
So at this point i'm trying to minimize my losses. I am open to any suggestions as to how I can either:
1. find a way to get the phone unlocked and use it on another carrier (I know that when a T-Mobile phone is blocked or blacklisted, they share that info now with AT&T, but i'm hoping I can use it on Simple Mobile or Straight Talk or Walmart's service)
or
2. sell the phone internationally (with full disclosure of the fact that the phone is blocked on T-Mobile/AT&T of course, but it shouldn't matter if someone wants to use it outside of the US, right?)
or
3. sell the phone as a 'dev' device (at a substantial loss i'm sure), but I have no idea how to do this or even whether a dev would want a phone that is blocked (don't they need to test network stuff?).
I'm trying to find a way to make the best of a bad situation. Any one who reads this post and wants to give me some decent advice is welcome. But if you just want to start trolling PLEASE JUST GO AWAY. I have enough problems as it is right now.
In any case, i've learned my lesson. No more Craigslist, no more Negri, no more Swappa. I'm just gonna pony up the money and get my phones directly from T-Mobile. The money I thought I was saving doesn't look like such a deal anymore.
Ah damn, yeah seems a lot of people have fallen into the same trap you have unfortunately.
Well you could try another network. . However the chances are high that it'll be blocked all over the US. - yes you could sell it internationally and disclose the issue but the frequency has a different range(?) - this would probably be your best option.
If not then you'd just have to take the hit on it, toss it away or use as a media device. And put it down to a very bad lesson learnt the hard way :-/
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Ah damn, yeah seems a lot of people have fallen into the same trap you have unfortunately.
Well you could try another network. . However the chances are high that it'll be blocked all over the US. - yes you could sell it internationally and disclose the issue but the frequency has a different range(?) - this would probably be your best option.
If not then you'd just have to take the hit on it, toss it away or use as a media device. And put it down to a very bad lesson learnt the hard way :-/
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Appreciate the response, but now way I could toss $650 away. It took me a few months to save that up. That's why i'm trying to salvage whatever I can of this situation.
Perhaps there's a Canadian carrier uses the same frequencies as T-Mobile? Anyone know a site that would help me compare GSM bands/frequencies to see which countries would be the best option for reselling?
You could have a scan on gsmarena they detail frequencies on the different models.
Yeah it's definitely an expensive error for sure, assume T - Mobile aren't too keen to help at all then?
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radicalisto said:
You could have a scan on gsmarena they detail frequencies on the different models.
Yeah it's definitely an expensive error for sure, assume T - Mobile aren't too keen to help at all then?
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No, T-Mobile won't give me any info because i'm not the original account holder for the phone. T-Mobile will probably go after that person, but it's probably just a tax write off for them.
Try RegionLock away on Play store or buy an unlock code then try with a pre-paid service. GL
RMXO said:
Try RegionLock away on Play store or buy an unlock code then try with a pre-paid service. GL
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Won't help.... Phone has been blacklisted...
Unless you can get the carrier to take it off the blacklist it won't be allowed to connect to any network in that country (theoretically)...
Just a thought though - if the phone hasn't been paid for to the carrier, it's on the blacklist and you are caught trying to use it, you may find yourself charged with possession of stolen goods... Unless you have a receipt that states it was sold to you. Either way though you will loose the phone...
Techngro said:
Hey guys, i've got a problem and I need some advice/options.
Long story short, as some of you may know, I bought my T-Mobile branded Note 3 on Swappa in November. Of course, Swappa says that they check IMEIs and the seller assured me that the phone was fully paid for, but a few days ago my Note 3 was blocked/blacklisted (whatever you call it) by T-Mobile for non-payment of EIP.
I have tried to resolve the issue through communicating with the seller and Swappa, but there's really nothing to be done. The seller won't refund my money, Swappa is powerless, and Paypal says the transaction is past their 45 day dispute period. The phone isn't even unlocked, so I can't even try and use it on another carrier right now.
So at this point i'm trying to minimize my losses. I am open to any suggestions as to how I can either:
1. find a way to get the phone unlocked and use it on another carrier (I know that when a T-Mobile phone is blocked or blacklisted, they share that info now with AT&T, but i'm hoping I can use it on Simple Mobile or Straight Talk or Walmart's service)
or
2. sell the phone internationally (with full disclosure of the fact that the phone is blocked on T-Mobile/AT&T of course, but it shouldn't matter if someone wants to use it outside of the US, right?)
or
3. sell the phone as a 'dev' device (at a substantial loss i'm sure), but I have no idea how to do this or even whether a dev would want a phone that is blocked (don't they need to test network stuff?).
I'm trying to find a way to make the best of a bad situation. Any one who reads this post and wants to give me some decent advice is welcome. But if you just want to start trolling PLEASE JUST GO AWAY. I have enough problems as it is right now.
In any case, i've learned my lesson. No more Craigslist, no more Negri, no more Swappa. I'm just gonna pony up the money and get my phones directly from T-Mobile. The money I thought I was saving doesn't look like such a deal anymore.
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bad luck for you.
But i can tell you a thing or 2 about selling phone internationally.
your t-mobile fone can be used here in SEA region and for the N3 its probably multi band.so selling it internationally shouldn't be an issue for you.but you'll probably want to sell it at a huge discount.
from past experience,t-mobile's GSM frequency is the same as those in my country and i have no issues using T-mo fone here.my signature should tell you what t-mo fones i had.but i cannot say if the 4g band is the same though.so dun worry about the GSM band being compatible or not,that's the buyer's responsibility.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands)
i am not sure if there is a way to sim unlock your fone without having to buy a unlock code(i noe the sensation 4g had a way to remove sim lock altogether),if you do find a way,there is no harm testing to see if you can still use the fone on other networks.
take it as a hard lesson learned bro but dun give up trying other ways to use your fone,i am pretty sure the journey is educational.like how i tried to make t-mo fones work in my country.
I might be wrong but its only blacklisted IMEI NUMBER? in UK its illegal to change it. But I think you end up selling it OK on ebay
with NO RETURNS OR REFUND!
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ultramag69 said:
Won't help.... Phone has been blacklisted...
Unless you can get the carrier to take it off the blacklist it won't be allowed to connect to any network in that country (theoretically)...
Just a thought though - if the phone hasn't been paid for to the carrier, it's on the blacklist and you are caught trying to use it, you may find yourself charged with possession of stolen goods... Unless you have a receipt that states it was sold to you. Either way though you will loose the phone...
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Yes, I do have a receipt from both Paypal and Swappa. But I think would only work if it has been reported lost or stolen by the original owner. I don't think that's the case. T-Mobile said it was blocked for non-payment of EIP. Guess the guy just flipped the phone as soon as he signed the contract. People suck.
frostmore said:
bad luck for you.
But i can tell you a thing or 2 about selling phone internationally.
your t-mobile fone can be used here in SEA region and for the N3 its probably multi band.so selling it internationally shouldn't be an issue for you.but you'll probably want to sell it at a huge discount.
from past experience,t-mobile's GSM frequency is the same as those in my country and i have no issues using T-mo fone here.my signature should tell you what t-mo fones i had.but i cannot say if the 4g band is the same though.so dun worry about the GSM band being compatible or not,that's the buyer's responsibility.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands)
i am not sure if there is a way to sim unlock your fone without having to buy a unlock code(i noe the sensation 4g had a way to remove sim lock altogether),if you do find a way,there is no harm testing to see if you can still use the fone on other networks.
take it as a hard lesson learned bro but dun give up trying other ways to use your fone,i am pretty sure the journey is educational.like how i tried to make t-mo fones work in my country.
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Yes, very educational. I used to buy my phone on Craigslist. I never once got scammed. But then Craigslist turned into Scam Central Station. So I went to Swappa because they use Paypal and I thought that would give me some protection. Turns out, the only way to ensure that you won't get a phone that will be blocked or blacklisted later is to get it directly from the source. It's turning out to be an expensive lesson. :crying:
How much of a discount do you normally get when you purchase a T-Mobile phone? I don't want to lose $200. It would make more sense to just get a cheap 4G phone and tether it to my Note 3 and use it as a little tablet.
jowett69 said:
I might be wrong but its only blacklisted IMEI NUMBER? in UK its illegal to change it. But I think you end up selling it OK on ebay
with NO RETURNS OR REFUND!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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Yes, I would have to do it that way, but i'm worried now about losing too much money trying to sell it. If I sell it internationally, I don't see why I should lose that much, since the T-Mobile block only applies to the US.
Another option?
I really don't want to lose my $30 5GB plan. I've been looking on Amazon and saw that they have some cheap T-Mobile 4G phones like this Nokia Lumia 521: http://goo.gl/KgvOgR
My thought is, I can purchase that, tether my Note 3 to it and keep using it. 90% of what I do on my Note 3 is data/browsing, gaming, etc. So if I can tether to the Lumia, I guess it would work.
Any thoughts?
Was the Paypal transaction a credit card one? If so, I would contact them directly (you may have recourse for up to 3 months?). I use Paypal but always use my credit card to pay for items and never my bank account because Paypal will not stand behind the purchase if they have a way out.
FedUpx2 said:
Was the Paypal transaction a credit card one? If so, I would contact them directly (you may have recourse for up to 3 months?). I use Paypal but always use my credit card to pay for items and never my bank account because Paypal will not stand behind the purchase if they have a way out.
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No, unfortunately, it was a bank account. Sigh...
UPDATE
So here's an update on my situation.
After considering my options, I ordered a Straight Talk AT&T sim card a few days ago. It was only $7 with free shipping, so I figured I might as well give it a try. It got here today, so I got Chainfire's RegionLock Away app and followed the instructions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471742) to unlock my Note 3 using the Straight Talk sim card. Didn't have a single problem getting it unlocked. Total cost to unlock ~ $10.
Once it was unlocked, I signed up for the $45 Straight Talk plan (which ends up around $50 with taxes/fees), and after a couple of reboots, I have service. The service seems pretty fast, but I don't want to do a speedtest because it's just a waste of my limited data allotment. It shows as being 4G LTE, but I don't know if that's the case.
So, I pay $20 more for half the data, and I have a Note 3 that is worth considerably less than what I paid for it only a couple of months ago on Swappa. I've definitely learned a valuable lesson here. But at least I have a working phone, so there's that.
Thanks for all of the suggestions guys.
That's awesome and glad you are able to use the phone normally.
Techngro said:
So here's an update on my situation.
After considering my options, I ordered a Straight Talk AT&T sim card a few days ago. It was only $7 with free shipping, so I figured I might as well give it a try. It got here today, so I got Chainfire's RegionLock Away app and followed the instructions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471742) to unlock my Note 3 using the Straight Talk sim card. Didn't have a single problem getting it unlocked. Total cost to unlock ~ $10.
Once it was unlocked, I signed up for the $45 Straight Talk plan (which ends up around $50 with taxes/fees), and after a couple of reboots, I have service. The service seems pretty fast, but I don't want to do a speedtest because it's just a waste of my limited data allotment. It shows as being 4G LTE, but I don't know if that's the case.
So, I pay $20 more for half the data, and I have a Note 3 that is worth considerably less than what I paid for it only a couple of months ago on Swappa. I've definitely learned a valuable lesson here. But at least I have a working phone, so there's that.
Thanks for all of the suggestions guys.
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Sorry to hear about your problems. Even though a couple people had the same issue with phones from Negri Electronics, mine purchased from Negri still says that the IMEI is not recognized when checked and it works fine on T-Mobile or AT&T (tested with sister's T-Mobile SIM and daily use with AT&T grandfathered Unlimited) with LTE. I am very happy. T-Mobile was going to make me spend $791 + at least 45 days of unwanted service before I could even request an unlock and they have 7 days to respond (52 days of unwanted service?). That's not a deal.
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CZroe said:
Sorry to hear about your problems. Even though a couple people had the same issue with phones from Negri Electronics, mine purchased from Negri still says that the IMEI is not recognized when checked and it works fine on T-Mobile or AT&T (tested with sister's T-Mobile SIM and daily use with AT&T grandfathered Unlimited) with LTE. I am very happy. T-Mobile was going to make me spend $791 + at least 45 days of unwanted service before I could even request an unlock and they have 7 days to respond (52 days of unwanted service?). That's not a deal.
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Well, i'm glad that Negri made someone happy. There were plenty of people on this forum who felt they were getting scammed by them and had to cancel preorders after waiting 3 weeks for a shipment that never happened.
You might feel you're getting a deal, and maybe you are, and i'm glad for you. But for me, as I said, I learned a very expensive lesson from my experiences with both Negri and Swappa. It's only a deal when it works out the way you want it to. When you get screwed like I did, it stops being a deal. Not only did my phone get blocked, I now pay more money for less service. The extra $100 in savings isn't worth the risk for me anymore.

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